LIES THEY TELL YOU IN ART SCHOOL
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- Опубліковано 28 лип 2024
- As many of you know, I went to art school for 4 years to get a degree in Character Design. I had a great time and learned a ton, but in the time since graduating I've also started to realize that much of the advice I got there was sometimes a little old-fashioned. So today, I wanted to talk about the things I was told at art school that turned out to be flat out wrong.
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Student: *draws anime*
Teachers: *peace was never an option*
Nowadays you can actually draw anime art, as long as you're able to also have a wide variety of art styles, it's pretty ok now.
It's better to not just stick with a style, you need to have a range, that's what people want in the animation or art industry.
(If you're going in seriously and not like a UA-cam job/freelancer.)
yeah, im in a club at school and my friend asked if she could draw anime for the newspaper and she said no lol
I might be wrong but seems like propaganda spread by Disney starting from cal arts.
Wait I can mix style!
The illustrator of Dr.Stone has this interesting style teach. It’s like your narrow minded version of anime art style mixed with the old ones, you see?
When your entire artsyle is entirely based off anime *angry confused sounds*
Student: expresses themselves with art they love
Art school: *so you have chosen death*
Cake or death! If anyone gets this you're a legend!
I would quit immediately!
MissParadoxGaming oh god
@@HelloKitty60621 Eddie Izzard! 😂
@@Xenia2812 we're out of cake...
“NO FAN ART!”
*stops drawing electric fans*
7 months ago with 26 likes but no replies. Guess I'm your first reply. Hello. Your joke made me smile
@@the_realbwkool thank you.
lol
I don’t want any poo hitting the fan
Lol this is actually funny and original
“Fanart isn’t real art”
*me over here trying to figure out then why is the word art in fanart if it’s not art*
lol
O h
It’s not about whether it’s real art or not, posting fanart of copyrighted material on the internet IS a federal crime even if the owners of the IP don’t usually come after artists for it. Any reasonable well meaning professor shouldn’t give their students permission to break the law. LT should have done her damn homework, this misconception has gotten people into legal trouble
@@olivesusername you know you can credit the artist in the description, right? and pretty much all the fanarts i have seen mentioned that it is fanart for a certain character, or a redrawing of someone else's art.
also, federal crime? legal trouble? what, are they gonna throw a 13 years old in jail for drawing sasuke or what
@@Em-hy4ig dont take my word for it, look it up
Traditionalists: Look at this historical figure! They went against the tide by trying something new!
Student: *_Tries something new_*
Traditionalists: No, wait-
lmfao
traditionalists: try something new
student: *tries something new*
traditionalists: no not like that
Stephanie Reitz
Students: **confused screaming**
Don’t worry, just give it a century or two and you’ll be a world renown historical “ancient modern” artist
Ayane Agano I mean so true
"Expensive paints are toxic"
I'll stick to my $1 bottles of acrylics from walmart. They suit me just fine
I have a paint set that cost $20. I haven't even gotten an 8th of the way through the most used tube because I need so little for it.
Gacha Kiddø I literally have so many of those! I use them all the time!
I love how teachers say to copy an artist like Picasso’s painting and nothing is wrong but if I draw and anime character it’s immediately wrong and “ it’s not real are it’s just a copy “.
Yeah
Fr
I have a tip on how to NOT buy EXPENSIVE paints just to like appease the teachers:
Grab the used container of expressive paint that has ended or unusable wash that and then buy the mid tear and less expensive paint and put it on the recipient, it’s not like they are going to notice, you just have to find one that looks like expensive paint but you don’t need to buy the more expensive paint
Also discard the less expensive paint recipient before they see it
I’m in middle school and I can relate
“Fan art isn’t real art.”
Well technically everything _is_ fan art.
When you paint a landscape picture, you’re making fan art for nature
When you draw a self portrait, you’re making fan art for yourself
And the list goes on, and on..
We need more people that think logically like you.
(I do not mean this as in 'nobody thinks logically, only this guy does, or this guy')
Too philosophical.
You have a bigger brain then Albert Einstein ever did
Matcha Leaf wow this is an example of what a smart person is
Yes. Thats true
Me: *looks at finished piece about the paint.*
Left side of brain: “Expensive paint is good paint.”
Right side of brain: “Expensive is good, paint paint.”
ikr like i love lavender's illustrations but that one looks like it belongs in r/don'topendeadinside or whatever it's called i can't remember lol
*Paint Paint*
Her face is me reading this comment, on the verge of laughing at 3:00 am
@@user-nw3ol7fk1i You're thinking of r/dontdeadopeninside, but the example in the video would actually be r/nosafetysmokingfirst
@@roomfullofpigeons what's the difference tho 😳 sorry I haven't opened Reddit in like a month
"Fan art isn't real art."
Then what the hell do you call Michelangelo's work? That's biblical fanart, my friend
I hate that you're right 💀
For a more accident analogy, Michelangelo was the etsy artist that the pope hired to paint his workspace... full of bible wifus.
@@anncallihan5144 oh my god how many times do you think he was commissioned for a Jesus Christ body pillow by priests
Leliel Oh my god x’D Considering how gay Michelangelo was, I’m sure he’d have loved those commissions.
I’m gonna look down at bad deviantart fanartist, pointing Michelangelo painting like “that’s a fanart”
me: [draws something in my personal cartoony style]
non-artists and teachers: *that looks like anime.*
FINALLY SOMEBODY THAT GETS IT.
It's your style not theirs so only you can say what's your style
Bruh I get the same thing but you cannot get more western than my art style
"Why are the eyes so big???"
"Why are the fingers only four???"
"Can you draw me?"
"Why is the mouth seperated??"
"Are you an artist??"
"Why don't you show the hands??"
"Is that you??"
"What is that??"
"Can you draw me in anime??"
*The most annoying questions they ask me at my school..*
This is pain isn't it
The true definition of it
It’s the worst. I could list like 20 more annoying things they tell you off the top of my head. It’s also extremely irritating when they act superior, think they’re better, and basically imply that they know best when they can’t even draw a freaking stick figure. (I’m talking about classmates, although I wouldn’t be surprised if adults did this too.)
@@musical_clementine993 This hits too close to home. And when they just *stand there* over your shoulder and watch you draw while criticizing your art and asking too many questions, that just makes me *not want to draw at all.* 😫
Thankfully I’ve had people who are like ‘ooh... your drawing is so good’. (Bless their pure souls, but I’m like a thousand miles from being good). Anyway, I think anyone who can draw even remotely good has been asked ‘can you draw me?’. Personally I appreciate that they think my art is that good, but it isn’t.
One day I drew a character and the face was that of someone who had been caught in the act and had a shadow in the middle of both eyes and my friends started saying "What is that ??" "Why does he have a nose between your eyes? " And it just annoyed me alot ( No one is going to read but *OK*)
Depression: You took everything from me...
Art School: *I don't even know who you are*
Art school: Who dis bish
Omer Citrin - lol I’m so proud of our generation
Depression: we meet again Art School
Art school: Do I know you
Depression: Hold up, this whole operation was your idea.
Depression: You will.
“Fan art isn’t real art”
Let’s talk about the renaissance, shall we?
*LETS TALK ABOUT THE BIBLE ART, SHALL WE*
*LETS TALK ABOUT THE "MONA LISA" SHALL WE?!*
@@wren2403 the mona lisa was a drawing of another human? Its a portrait that someone probably paid for.
@@oddydraws4807 Mona Lisa was a real Florentine woman, born and raised in Florence under the name of Lisa Gherardini.
@@mystic5044 I know but when you draw another person its called a portrait
When "this paint will last you the rest of your life" has a double meaning.
Haha it’s like a benefit and warning
oh.. *OH*
I dont get . ..,
Can someone explain to me?
@@caramelu2525 heavy metal poisoning. If you keep touching the paint with your bare hands, the metals in the pigment are absorbed through the skin and go into your bloodstream.
@@caramelu2525 If ur drawing is bad then it's gonna last forever and u couldn't get rid of it
"Sometimes... things that are expensive... are worse"
love that quote
"lies they tell you at art school"
teachers: Fanart is dumb
Me : Hold my *phone.*
My teachers at art school told me "if you have art block just draw fan art"
Francis Bajado
It works lol
My teacher legit said "Fanart isn't art"
@@omao4938 ah yes,not like it's literally in the name
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“Fan art isn’t real art.”
That’s uhm..
A BIG lie.
There are SO many talented fanartists
@@leah8894 yesssss Thats why is fanART
what is it then if its not art?
@@infinitepossibilities2862 art
I live in italy, in my art school they encourage to do everything that its art (fan art are actualy accepted) and they ask to buy the paints we want. I didnt expect that american art schools were so outdated
Cuz Italy is where Leonardo Da Vinci was born ◉‿◉.
As an american i can confirm that most of our political and education systems are filled with idiots that don't know about the different ways people learn, like i have adhd and anxiety, and my teachers basically just gave up on me early on and i failed middle school
@@lisa101561 Bruh what kinda teacher is that
@Giannirey well, fun fact: our teachers says that we need to go wild with our drawings, they often disencurage us to do "classical" and "perfect" stuff
@Giannirey Isn't Picasso from Malaga, Spain?
"Fanart isn't art."
*Me, shoving fanart into my portfolio and gets offered a place at an art school:*
@Spotted Star Yes it does
@Spotted Star elementary??? Like 5th grade???
I'm going into my first art class next year (where I live middle school starts in 7th grade) and I don't know what I'll draw. Who knows, I might draw sans lol.
fanART
@Spotted Star I subbed to you!
“Fan art isn’t real art!” Five year old me drawing Cinderella: *w h a t*
I only drew potato heads as a kid ;-;
four yr me drawing peppa pig : *👁👄👁*
5 year old me drawing Dora : 👁 👄 👁
4 year old me drawing Barney :
👁👄👁
4year old me drawing Micky Mouse:👁️👄👁️
I’m just over here waiting for the new generation of art school teachers to blossom.
My teacher teaches us to do pattern designs and poster designs rather than cartoon/anime/realistic 👁👄👁
@@user-jj4dx8yo7u omg yes like when i used to be in elementary school we used to draw optical illusions and nothing else
they have blossomed the problem is they aren’t turning into fruit
“Fanart isn’t real art”
Me: *stares at all my artworks, which are fan arts for shows and people I like*
I guess you're not a real artist then /j
@@L4xu0rii_PNG this was 10 months ago 😭 I started to do diff art but yuh, apparently I’m not a real artist anymore 😟 /j
@@miraculer7384 LMAO I DIDN'T EVEN NOTICE
SAME
Literally all I draw is FANART
“Fan art isn’t art” THEN WHY IS HALF OF MY HOMEWORK RECREATING VAN-GOTH PIECES??????
Van-Gogh?
**Van-Cough*
Degas makes de Van Gogh
Van-Gogh? More like Van-Cough
What do you call an edgy semi-abstract artist? Van goth.
Art school: Fanart isn't real art
Classical artists, drawing fanart for the Bible: ...
This is the best thing I've read today
@@waitnoscary5417 I agree
@@namdraws sometimes I miss the old days when people didn't give a shit about naked people in art
FANART OF THE BIBLE IM-
UnicornOfRainbows
I can’t with this comment lol.
So about the "Adobe or else" section: My teachers in the Digital Media department absolutely HATE Adobe and Autodesk, and have been looking for any kind of software that can do the same job so they can make the switch. Cheaper is better, and if they find alternatives to subscription-based software, they'll teach us how to use that program instead. For 2D and 3D animation, they had us use Blender. For Post Production, they had us use DaVinci Resolve which can substitute for Audition, Premiere, AND After Effects. They didn't have substitutes for Photoshop and Illustrator, but I think the Affinity Suite might just replace it in the near future.
But also, my teachers were trend breakers who did freelance work, and sold 3D assets on online marketplaces, so they're not exactly the old fashion types.
Krita is really nice for digital drawing
The Affinity programs are really good!
The Affinity programs are great! And cheap! And you actually own the programs!
Use ibis paint x and flipaclip. They are free.
Perhaps suggest Krita or FireAlpaca to your teachers?
My Art teachers
Elementary: Art is everything and anything (She didn't like when people rushed and didn't like it when people did amazing on the drawing then just scribbled for the color)
Middle School: Art is everything from drawing, to music, and plays (liked effort and didn't like rushed work)
High school: Lets have some fun
Ture in the 1st one my elmerty the art teacher told us we should full in everything and we got a lot of peruses cause of it
Awwww! Thats nice.i dont have an art teacher in my middle school i think,but i think that thye wouldnt really care what we drew,as long as it was appropriate.
I mean if the techer's like
: rushing isn't good you need to take your time to make it good
I honnestly think it ain't that bad
@@Alex_01908 Yes and no. I remember someone talking about improvement by putting themself on time limits. Though I think that is more of a after you already know how to draw step.
Another lie: "Stress is good for you."
But they never say where the line is drawn. So they cram 4-5 final assignments in each semester (mine is 4 months per semester) and expect us to do well and have our sleep schedule intact.
true
Gary Tee stress is actually the #1 killer in the world.
@Chloe Ha Sacrificing personal health is probably one of the curriculum they never mention
@@sungquette Karoshi in Japan, but everywhere else.
Personally, I don't believe that just because someone went through tough times, it warrants them to make it mandatory for others experience the same.
Even if a few can work under intense pressure and succeed, it's few and far between.
“Expensive is good.”
*”Paint paint”*
Haha I just noticed that!
I notice that gust now 😂😂😂😂
A cookie run fan ! Finally!
Expensive is good paint paint this is so sad 😔💔
yes
I’m glad I’m not alone in having issues in art classes.
My teacher would yell at me for being the slowest drawer. :/
I enjoy taking my time in art to make sure it’s the best that I can physically draw. (I once spent 7 hours drawing grass once)
It’s hard when art teachers complain about how quick or slow you are at drawing. Since I was the slowest drawer in my class.
So you're saying that your teacher complain about "slow people" even tought like you said for you it's just to make the best version of what your doing ... interesting
Every other teacher: Anime isnt real art
My class art teacher at school: WERE GONNA IMPROVE BY DRAWING SOME ANIME BAKAS
My whole class: YAYAYAYAYAYAYYAYAY
My grandmother (an obvious very, VERY old school person) told me that I need to get off my phone and start drawing on paper, because digital art isn’t real art. I asked her about Disney, and that that wasn’t real art? She responded with “Well they started in paper.” -.-
My grandfather, a traditional artist, walked in and said “Oh please, if digital art isn’t real art, then neither is sculpting because that isn’t done on paper.” He then went to go get a Coke and my grandmother sighed and kept doing her Sudoku. I kept drawing.
What a great grandpa. He seems pretty cool. Did you get inspired to do art by him?
@@lune4089 ah no, actually. I mean he is pretty chill, most of the time. But he’s also pretty old school. Soooo yeah.
@@easybakeoven15 makes sense! I hope you do great in art!
The grandpa just roasted the grandma
LMAOOOOO
Everyone’s like “art teachers hate anime” but that’s completely the opposite with mine. She encourages us to draw anime, and we even did a project studying anime.
You are very lucky! This kind of attitude it eeeextremly rare, unfortunately
this isnt supposed to be mean
:( my teacher doesnt like it. He doesn't hate on it though
OMG SAME she has us do the anatomy of it, how to draw the faces and etc.
I think that’s pretty smart. Considering most art schools lean towards more traditional art. Anime originates from Japan, it’s an art style and culture. It would be fun to learn.
when I try drawing a picture off the internet, I feel guilty with the thought of I'm not being creative and original.
but I can't think of ideas.
its ok to copy m8
“Only 2 types of possibilities for an artist”
Me 15 trying to be like a tattoo artist: dam...
Shower thought: a self portrait is just fan art of yourself
What if you're not a fan of yourself? Then.. It's just a self portrait.
@@femalefawning I.....hadn't thought of that XDDD
@@femalefawning hate art
@@humanityssassiestsoldier then you would draw yourself as an ugly gnome
damn
“Anime isn’t art because the anatomy is bad”
Me, who studied anatomy for a long time so that I could get a good anime style: Pardon?
Ahh the feels!
True!! A lot of Anime styles actually have amazing anatomy!!! I'm trying to learn anatomy better to get an anime style lol.
I mean their anatomy isn’t the best but it’s still fine
Honestly I don’t draw anime but the anatomy isn’t all that off. They’re probably focusing on the face.
Hoh! Yes finally someone notice this!
Art teacher: Ugh anime and cartoons aren't art!
Me: Well you thought me drawing an emoji was an orange with a face so you cant really judge what's art soooooo yea.
I’m not an artist, but to me it always seemed like there were a lot of opportunities for an artist with all the platforms, like Instagram, TikTok, Pinterest, UA-cam (where my history is just filled with Hamilton art animatics) WEBTOON, etc, so it was really surprising to me when you said there were only 2 paths given in college
people who say "fanart isnt real art" confuse the heck out of me. like,,, just because i don't own the character im drawing, that suddenly invalidates the years i spent learning how to draw, and all the knowledge of art and it's rules that i used to create said fanart??? that don't add up, chief > _ >
Its like “oh you drew a picture of your room? well whats this plush toy you have? its from a fandom you fool. disgusting. the whole thing is bad”
@@BayOfWulf oof I didn't read the whole thing
@@BayOfWulf but it's true
like okay Michaelangelo didn't own God but he painted a church ceiling karen
Well it's real since they're all over school desks
I can hear her smile every time she says lebleblebleh
Sammee
I always wait for that bit 😁😁 it makes me so happy
THAT PERSON IS A LEGEND
That’s why I always stay while she talks about her patrons
Fanart is how I found my Love of Drawing.
Fanart is why I tried to improve and I did.
Fanart is what inspires me.
Fanart is valid, ART SCHOOL!
I personally think that fanart can help me practice different facial designs and facial expressions. Because it kinda forces you to look more closely at the features of the characters face that make them look more recognisable.
Nobody:
Artists: art school bad
I guess they mean " prepare to be dissapointed" just like how media romantisizes high school when it's a shithole most of the time
I actually visited the art school haley went to and god damn were the people there pretentious
@@skylar8277 Really?
@@miikapm2 THIS is a good comparison... Now if only I wasn't homeschooled and went straight to college before I knew this.
Rj 27 yeah, every group and teacher i met thought their art was the supreme form of art. They did have some people that were like cool and there was a stairwell where everyone painted random stuff on it which was cool but oh yeah they were pretentious lol. Even super simple art was presented as super brilliant amazing expressive stuff.
Video idea:
Things that non-artists think about art
Yes this is a good idea! There’s a popular misconception that digital art is somehow “easier” according to non-artists. Would love to see LavenderTowne disprove some myths/misconceptions about art in her videos.
they think furry bad
like dude its just a dog on his two hind legs wdym
@@atlaslovesedm bruh, I only find actual furries annoying but it's just because of the ones I've met.
The ones I met full on act like animals, like this one girl bit my flipping arm for who knows what reason.
I mean I would probably not have a problem with them if I had met other ones that didn't act like they need to be put in a mental asylum and could actauly handle being around them ;-;.
In the end idk what the point of saying all this was.
*awkwardly walks away*
Off topic but she posed this vid. And hour ago how did you get hear 2 hours ago
Didn't she already do a video on art myths?
I guess this goes for pure art schools cause in my Uni, the art department was sorta "meh" on fanart and anime, mostly bc the art curriculum pushes for modernism and design and not really for pure fine art. In fact, alot of drawing teachers at my school respected anime and never outright hated anime or comics or cartoons. They mentioned, however, that there should be a focus on fundamentals and building a strong foundation.
Edit: there WAS this old fogey fine art painter teacher who talked about how the school didn't go for rennaissance style art when it comes to practice and preferred Modern Art(tm)
Them: Fan art isn't real
Me: B-but I drew the whole Afton family, Jeff The Killer, and MHA characters!
I DREW A SHITTY AI OHTO I AM ARTIST
AND I DREW A FAIRY CHARACTER WITH A DANG ANIME CHARACTER AS A REFERENCE IN THE FIRST FEW DRAFTS!!!
IN GONNA DRAW AN OC I HOPE TO USE IN A DND GAME
I love fanf music
Lavendertowne: "Lies they tell you at art school"
Me: Whelp there goes that Dream
@Flufflingg no gacha is just an RPG app and not everyone uses it to trace
Art school is still sometimes worth going to! I mostly put this out to just straighten out a few of the incorrect things I was taught but the majority of things I learned helped a lot. ^^
@Flufflingg People can do edit in gacha and do art, who are you to put restrictions on them?
People can do gaming and art, or graphic design and baking, they can do whatever the hell they want.
Flufflingg people like you are the reason people have low self esteem. And who are you tell her/him/n/a what to do?
@Flufflingg just because people use gacha doesn't mean there's a better or WORSE chance to be an artist in fact wouldn't it be better because it would give them at least some art history to make there art better rather then doing nothing at least they actually are starting to practice art rather than doing nothing and having no idea on how to draw
Art teacher: I didn’t teach you this technique, you fail
Tinkrr ikr
art teacher: DROP OUT SISTER
I had an art teacher in high school who thought like this for a while. She and I butted heads until she finally relented when presented with the logic of, "If I'm getting it done and what I'm doing is working, then what's the problem?"
Same about math teachers! I had a really hard time figuring out my teachers' way of doing math, and when I figured out my own way that was much easier for me (and a lot of my classmates) I got a 0 for using the wrong method even thiugh I got all the right answers. The teacher got chewed the fuck out for failing me when I should have gotten a 4 (100%)
Why do I feel like that's not only art teachers..? 🤔
FUDGIN MATH >:^[
When she started talking about the toxic paint it remained me oh when I painted on my foot with some spare paint I mixed up and it started burning so my brother made me scrub it off. It didn’t stain my foot or actually burn it. It was FolkArt and Apple Barrel btw
“Fan art isn’t real art”
Me who drew Kaeya from Genshin impact for an abstract art piece in my art class and got a 100: as you were saying
Y’all are talking about fan art and realism while I’m over here drawing geese with knives
Untitled goose game?
"peace was never an option"
Hoooow
All hail the almighty knife goose. 🙏🙌
*peace was never an option*
Art school: *no fan art* , *no anime art* , *Realism is only art*
Me: *ight I'm a head out*
@Ksywygzy thanks for the info
My Art teachers also forced me to get the expensive paints and then there's the cheap ones that are just as good 💅🏼
but better cause the only difference is the price
as an aspiring artist, thank you for warning me what could happen in art school to me :)
"Anime isn't Real Art, cause of inaccurate anatomy"
Me: 𝗟𝗔𝗨𝗚𝗛𝗦 𝗜𝗡 𝗛𝗜𝗥𝗢𝗛𝗜𝗞𝗢 𝗔𝗥𝗔𝗞𝗜
*Laughs in Picasso*
* when your I pad doesn't read the symbols so all you get is a bunch of question mark things *
HA! You thought it was Anime that would have accurate anatomy? But,
NO IT WAS ME, DIO!
Dude if that would happen I think you should’ve drew you breaking her back in a realistic art style
Please could somebody translate this? My device doesn't read these symbols :/
My art teacher called every type of cartoons as anime, and basically hated animation. He tried to change my entire style. In the end as a little f you, I made a realistic drawing of Danny Phantom. He had no choice but to judge a cartoon based on “the bases he had taught”.
It was glorious
Japanese natives also called every type of cartoons anime because technically they are. Anime is just what they call them. My Japanese sensei called Frozen and Dora the Explorer anime.
@@hinnyu7748 Well, anime is literally just the Japanese version of the anglolingual word animation. Specifically animation that is drawn or modelled.
@@bluepearl4624 What's YOUR favorite drawing style, Blue Pearl? Apart from judicial trials and Yellow Pearl, that is.
@@aliyahpulido953 I love drawing semirealistic humans. I always give them massive eyes though.
WAIT SO BY HIS LOGIC SPONGEBOB IS AN ANIME JSKSHDLSNSKSMS
Most frustrating question I had to answer:
Non-artist: can you draw me?
Me: no, I can't draw people.
Non-artist: if you can draw dragons really well, then you can draw people too!
Me: that's not how it works
Non-artist: yes it is
Me: how would you know it's not like you draw as much as I do!
Non-artist: oh
Even though I don't have many artists in my family, one thing I'm super grateful is how much my family believes in me and my art. Whether it was traditional, digital, or anything else my family would always try to help me get whatever supplies I needed to continue art. I still have a long way to go, but I think I've gone so much farther because of my family.
Thank you, family.
About the fanart comment: everyone in the pjo fandom knows about this artist but for those of you that don't. There's been a big fanartist for percy jackson for years that rick riordan actually made her the official artist for the series.
Cousinit you’re talking about vira right?
Ya viria rules!
WOOOOAHHH
Viria’s art is without a doubt incredible. Happy she got that job!
She is? That’s great!
Anime: Teaches you to pay attention to detail, be creative, and encourages learning proper anatomy
Art teacher: SLANDER, LIES, UNTALENTED
Well skirts gravity isn't the best tho.
As much as the face *coff coff-*
༒༺Evelyn-Chan༻༒ skirt gravity can be good tho, I’m talking about individual artists not cliche anime tropes Bc those hella annoying lol
This was super helpful! coincidentally, ive been hearing a lot recently about how art schools can misguide you and these exact lies can get into your head. So hearing this from someone who has experienced art school, and what isn’t false information, really helped me see the bigger picture :)
A great fan artist who got hired was Viria. She does the Percy Jackson art. She was originally a fan artist and then she got hired by Rick Riordan and now she’s the PJO official artist
One lie I experienced:
"You HAVE to use pencil as a beginning! And always a sharp one"
Chiaki Nanami is it weird ive used the dull side my whole life? i dont understand how ppl can write on the sharp side.
*deep breath*
WHOEVER SAID THAT DESERVES THE DEATH SENTENCE (I'm kidding)
But seriously, using a sharp pencil makes it harder to erase when you've got the finished lineart done (it indents the paper)
I use a Mechanical Pencil...FOR I HAVE SINNED IN THE EYES OF ART TEACHERS
I use sharp or mechanical pencils most of the time I don't understand the struggle of others
@@kadan2889 no matter how sharp your pencil is, it should not indent the paper. That only happens when we sometimes get heavy handed, it just comes with practice to use pencils (mechanical or not) without applying too much pressure.
“Your art is great!” They said.
*I can see through those white lies.*
Same for me
sometimes you just need to ignore those toxic paints
I think the worst part of my actual art school, or at least for what concerns my first year, is that they don't even force you to use specific programs. Oh no
They literally look at you in disgust if you only DARE say that you work mostly on digital art. I literally had a professor tell me that "You'll never get anywhere and you'll always be a failure, you and your digital art" just because I passed my traditional sketch on my PC to put proportions in check and see if everything checks out.
I had to fight my way over for a whole year to show that traditional and digital are not enemies, they can be used together like I always do, and the result is of the same quality weather is a traditional sketch or a digital sketch. It's infuriating, and I felt like garbage for a whole year trying to prove that my worth is in my works, not if I draw on paper or on a tablet.
Fortunately this year I found an amazing professor that actually encouraged me all the way, and still encourage me to follow my path and follow what I do best, but it still bugs me to no end this utter and not concealed disgust towards digital art.
"Fan art isnt real art"
Tell that to 8 year old me drawing godzilla vs the grinch
Art teachers: Anime isn't art because they dont study anatomy.
Me: *_Looks at Picasso_*
but all artists *do* study human anatomy before they start to develop their own art style?? like if you look at picasso's earlier works they're more realistic and not as abstract. anime is just an art style, like wtf is wrong with art teachers
Their viewpoint is problematic in the way it is presented, but you should consider learning the rules first if you want to break them.
Stylised art is good, but you should also know the basics and the rules in order to warp them.
Not learning the fundamentals can stagnate your growth as an artist.
The fundamentals are there to teach you methods on how to tackle your art, not just waste your time.
You need to be able to warp it in a way that is still aesthetically pleasing, or just easier for you to do because you know the techniques that you can apply.
Anime characters’ bodies are the most realistic and anatomically correct out of any cartoon style :/ why are art teachers like thissss
@@GayLuigi333 Some times they're correct but it depends on the artist.
As far as I know, all manga artists actually have to go through school studying anatomy and all that before they can even start writing manga, so some realism is present.
Art School: Only use Adobe!
Me:. **cries in IbisPaint X**
Me: *cries in Firealpaca, despite being a total noob, sucking, & computer can't handle the Adobe CC programs*
Me: *cries in firealpaca and ibispaint x as well-*
*grins in procreate*
Chachi *grins with procreate ibisPaint x*
Chachi you are a legend-
My art teacher actually had us do assignments that allowed us to create fanart, so I guess it just depends on the art teacher.
I had a nice art teacher for 2yrs, she went off to have her baby and got replaced by a absolute piece of 💩 that gave me total hell
I was in VCD with you (not in character design) and all of this has been so real, even down the design track. Amazed at how far your channel has come, so happy you've found success!
One time I went up to my grandma showed her my tablet and was like Look at this cool drawing I made! And she said..... DiGiTal ArT Is NoT ReAl ArT.. IT's juSt TrACiNg... *Bruh*
*draws line* tHaTS TrACiNg
Dude how the heck Is drawing on your own on a tablet tracing
I mean I do gacha edits so your grandma isn’t wrong. 👀
At least when it comes to gacha edits-
@@xloisx4603 I do Gacha too QwQ
Gacha is tracing qwq but digital ART is real art just on an iPad or tablet or phone! Or even mouse!!
Art teachers: It’s all about expressing yourself!
Yea, drawing struggles from my life is way more fun and interesting than releasing stress by drawing what I love.
By drawing what you love, you also express yourself. 👍
This.
I'm always weirded out by artists who make "tortured genius" art.
Why dig yourself deeper into the depression hole if you can lift yourself out by drawing something cheerful?
@@imperfectimp in their defense, doing that would be a form of toxic positivity. Many make art about their struggles to regulate them. What I meant in my comment was that art shouldn’t be forced to always be personal, it can be anything.
I spent 6 years ot of my life in art school and those were honestly a nightmare. Our teacher was very strict and conservative, and we didn't exactly have the best relationship.
We studied 2-4 hours a day, and we had 1-2 little breaks to, you know, relax a little bit. I would spend those coloring (I was, and still am, a huge fan of coloring books), or drawing fanart (mostly my little pony pictures), or doing something of sort. My teacher never liked this. She would come up to me and tell me to stop wasting my time on dumb things that would get me nowhere. And, yeah, that fanart wasn't real art, that I enjoyed coloring just because I was too lazy, that I should grow up, etc.
I also always was a huge fantasy lover. And we had a class where we were allowed to draw whatever we wanted... In theory. Of course, every sketch we did have to be approved by the teacher. And guess what, she never approved of anything I suggested that had any fantasy elements in it. She would say it was "nonsense" or "stupid" or "unrealistic" and she would force me to draw something completely different. Once, instead of a flying ship, like I wanted, she made me draw a woman sitting by the campfire. Obviously, I did a terrible job.
Another thing I was very sad about is that we were never allowed to choose our medium. I personally don't work that well with paint, but I'm much better with pastels, colored pencils, etc. Nobody cared though. If we worked with colour, we had to use paint. And yes, my teacher knew about my preference. Once she even complimented me on a little picture I did for fun with colored pencils. She was like, "Wow, that's quite good, I wish all your artwork looked like this. Why can't you always draw like this?" She didn't even let me use pencils for my graduation work.
Worst part is, she sincerely thought she was doing it all for my sake. After our graduation, she came up to me and said: "You're a good girl,you have potential, just get rid of all that useless stuff in your head". I remember being really upset.
After graduating from art school, I stopped doing art for 2 years because I hated it. Then I slowly came back to it, and now I'm perfectly happy doing my colored pencil fanart for mlp.
On one hand, I'm really grateful that art school gave me some important basic knowledge and skills, and perhaps my art wouldn't look so nice now without it. On the other hand, it really destroyed my will to do art and, more importantly, my self-esteem. I'm still struggling sometimes to feel good about my art and my hobbies, even though it has been 5-6 years already.
Sorry for such a long and late comment, I just watched the video, and remembered all of that, and I needed to get it all out somehow.
Man it’s really infuriating when that happens
In my beginner's painting class, my teacher told us the risks of like cadmium paints and we used hirs instead. He encouraged us to wear gloves while painting too so we could keep it from getting on our skin.
I remember in 6th grade we were making art for a competition. The theme was hopes and fears. I drew myself in a cave of failure trying to reach the end, which was the light of success. I drew in a cartoony style and my art teacher kept on coming over and would take the pencil from me, drawing my work in her own way, making it realistic, while giving me suggestions. Every time she left, I erased the work she had done and would do it again in my own way. She told me I was doing it wrong and I told her that it was MY work, and if I wanted it without details, I wouldn’t make details. She gave me a lower-than-usual grade but I didn’t care. As long as she kept her nose out of my style preferences, I was fine.
My kindergarten teacher would always be like in the Middle of art period : "you need to do this not that" and would erase somthing I did on it and draw somthing herself. And god pray for me if I erased it
Crawly Lé Spider lmao imagine if you were like “Fuck lady, YOU draw it then!”
People really think everyone has to act like them, it’s beyond me how people like that become teachers, let alone art teachers
my art teacher has us draw realistic quite often which she is amazing at if your having trouble she’ll make light lights to help you with shading and stuff only after asking permission though
aimalisapro123 In 6th grade an artist that did collages came in and told us to make a collage using magazine cutouts. I wasn’t that good at drawing and painting so I was excited to use my creativity in art for something I would be proud of. Anyway I used loads of dark cutouts and only like four lighter cutouts because I already had an idea of what I was gonna do. Every time that artist walked by me she would be like “Oh sweetheart, don’t you want something lighter, like the roses here?”. I would always say no thank you and she would turn up her nose and walk away. When I was up to the gluing stage, I had decide to make a beach with a huge cave with water in it. Out of magazine cutouts. It was looking really cool and realistic and the artist came over again and PEEELD OFF the already glued on pieces and rearranged it while saying “See, it’ll look better if you cover all theses dark pieces and move them under this.” I quietly told her what I was doing and she told me that it was a bad idea for a GIRlL to do and I should do a flower garden instead. So I nodded and did what I was going to do anyway
IndigoEm Playz Oh my god I would have been pissed
my broke self: hears that they made you use adobe products
*cries in only using free programs*
Vibe Snatcher Me: *cries in Ipad pro and ibispaint*
honnestly there is plenty of great free program out there to compensate adobe's money grab whatever it supposed to be
Vibe Snatcher **cries in ibispaint**
torrented cracked versions of the adobe CS6 suite exist and were the entire reason I was able to learn digital art because I didn't know about free programs, I found it on piratebay at 14 and it still exists and works now when I installed it on my new PC in January (I'm 22 now). It's like 3 steps, anything I didn't understand I usd google for. Since then I've moved to other free programs anyway because I like them so much more, but there are still effects that I can only achieve in photoshop, so I still keep it around.
**cries in tablet and finger**
I just think art at school should be about expressing yourself, but the school system says "No, now draw fruit as realistic as possible or you fail" like WHAT?!
“Fanart isn’t real art”
*Quickly hides Owl House and DREAMSMP fanart*
in conclusion: school is a scam, learn memes
lmao
Better: start a school of memes.
I'm totally going to do this.
Alx Csn one of the Great:The Show skits has this exact concept
@@lotusluminance5872 squidward's community college
@@lotusluminance5872 Age range?
Bruh- a substitute art teacher came up to me when i was drawing and said " fAn arT isNt ArT!¡"
.......
I wasn't doing fan art- it was just a creepy lookin rabbit-
What did he/she think it was from?
@@Anaea maybe bunnicula?
See that’s the thing: when people and organizations _say_ “fanart is bad” they usually always _mean_ “stylized art is bad.” I’ve also seen people go “Oh, but they mean ACTUAL bad art!” Like... but they don’t. They mean any art style they just happen to dislike. People have used anime with bad anatomy as examples but like, if the goal of art school is to get a job, who fucking cares if it looks bad if it clearly _does_ make money, proven by their own examples. If you really want people to get better, use positive feedback, constructive criticism, and specific assignments. Not “Your art is bad because I don’t like it.” That’s just tearing students down.
DeathnoteBB idk people saying stylized art is pretty bullshitty ngl. I think it’s boring just sticking to realism, gotta be creative.
Ohh I like creepy art
Why when someone talks about something they drew I always want to see it?
My art teachers actively contributed to me more or less giving up art.
I spent 8 years hardly picking up a pencil because I was constantly told things like 'You won't be able to do that.' 'No, no more anime drawings.' and my favourite, 'If only she'd stop drawing pixies and dragons'.
I got back into drawing through a combination of necessity and fanart and I'm really thankful I did.
To be fair, a lot of things that are possible for artists now weren't a thing back then, but they still should have encouraged me to draw the best damn pixies and dragons I possibly could instead of slowly killing my enthusiasm for my favourite thing.
"Fanart isn't real art"
My sketchbook filled with Annabeth and Percy Jackson fanart: *excuse me sir-*
I had this brutally honest art instructor during a workshop, one of my favorite guys ever. He sat us all down and said "I'm going to show you the work, I'm going to show you what and how, and I'm going to suggest the assignment, but I won't care if you don't turn it in, if you're unmotivated, that's on you, you're ultimately my future competition, and if you fail to do the work, that's one less person to worry about later"
I laughed so hard as the jaws of my fellow workshop students dropped. He also used to tell us all about the lies of the art academies, his favorite to bring up was connections. He would tell us, "you get connections by going out into the world, not hoping someone suggests you inside a campus"
Sounds like a cool teacher. Sounds honest but not in a “just mean but claims he’s ‘just being honest’” way, like in an actual “Look I’m not gonna hunt you down for missing assignments and realistically you gotta put yourself out there.”
Sounds like an awesome teacher
DeathnoteBB well said
Awsome
“Fan art isn’t real art” umm we’re we gonna get our inspiration then? Were we gonna practice our skills to get better?
Follow the words of Ethan Becker: DRAW FROM REFERENCE. DRAW BY STUDYING THE PROS YOU LIKE. NEVER DRAW FROM IMAGINATION*
*well, not NEVER but perfect practice you big baby.
ALSO TRACING IS JUSTIFIABLE IN CERTAIN CIRCUMSTANCES
Wise words
Off topic but...
Do you play Genshin Impact
Well I think getting inspiration from other character (or anything else from someone else’s drawing) is fine but you do need to try and make your own characters or own backgrounds so you aren’t so dependent on other people’s work. I don’t mean this as ‘if you’re professional you shouldn’t use a reference’ but you will find it hard to make an original character if you copy other people’s characters.
*You should be born with art skills and get them from REAL PEOPLE and the art should be REALISTIC*
~Dumb Art schools
not we're you meant to say where
"we're" means something else
and also it's not "were" either it's "where"!!!
I'm not even a good artist because I stopped art for a couple times because I was upset that I wasn't as good as my friends were. And now, I'm picking it up again, starting with shape study and sketch. So certain advice I hear nowadays can be really discouraging. Especially if that advice comes from a good artist. Like, I only draw fan art or my own characters, and hearing a good artist or an art teacher saying that this style won't get you anywhere, especially if you're passionate about the style is really heartbreaking.
Fan art is the best way,not only are you doing something you love,on social media fanart is also the most easy way to gain followers because it brings a bunch of people who like those characters to you and wants to see more,a random character doesn't do as well as a well known one from a show or a game,and like you said,people get hired because of those fanarts. Ofc its very important to practice your own imagination and realization but this is a great way too, in art no way is a wrong way.
Lies they tell you in art school
“You can do anything!”
*But I’m still not a Disney Princess.*
Kennedy_da_Fangurl I’m still not a cake
@@LavroseRovender The cake is a lie
You must have... A nice dress, talking animal, and a fucking musical. Also a deus ex machina type of story.
I’m still not an oven
Rip
"They dont like fanart"
*me thinking about my 13 sketchbooks full of fanart that I'm planning to use for applying uni and hoping my dream school doesnt mind it*
Mood
I plan on being an author and drawing all the pictures.
My plan to get into art school? Not fanart if you made the characters. I think
Dont mind my art book full of drawings of cleetus-
I have two sketchbooks but they are thick sketchbooks lol
Me drawing mah favorite youtubers right now: *huh*
"fan art isn't real art"
Me:fight me american school system i will ruin you
About the adobe section:I go to not particularly an art school but it has many different branches, with one for art and also one that's kinda a mix between art/creative and IT and we're getting all the adobe programs for 25€ a YEAR
High school art teacher: Don't draw anime, it's not real art. Now recreate the Mona Lisa.
College art professor: *who is a giant weeb* You drew my fav anime character, and you used all this cool art stuff to get the composition you wanted. You get an A
Cringe
Ker Shal okay.
I wish
Honestly my college professors have been huge nerds! I complemented one of my teacher’s Tri-gun shirts and we talked about the anime for 20 minutes of class
Well it's cool if ur professor is a weeb like me
I have a funny (kinda) experience with art teachers:
My fifth grade art teacher was very very strict, and always wanted us to draw “perfect”. I’m not exactly the best in traditional art, although I’m waaay better at digital art (not on a level that I personally like, but still better) and I once mentioned that I do digital art in class and she went off “Oh, digital art? If you ask me (jokes on you, I didn’t ask) it’s not even real art.” Without giving any real reason. And since she was one of my favorite teachers, it totally discouraged me and I stopped doing art for about 2 years. My 7th grade teacher tho, was different. Yes, she was strict, but she wanted us to explore it on our own. She had certain standards but everyone was free to figure out the way they would meet these standards. After I have gotten back to digital art, I once asked her while cleaning the classroom what she thought about digital art. Her answer was “I personally think that digital art is an amazing form of art. It gives the artist more opportunities to explore, without being afraid that they wasted too much money in the medium. It’s complicated and complex in its own way, which makes it really unique! I don’t think it’s invalid just because it’s a screen” and this made me really happy!
I sawypur art and I'd love to share mine !!! I'll link my channel and upload speedpaint :) its rlly good
Ok im super happy that my art teacher in grade 6 was really chill and always let us explore on our own when it comes to art.
I'm the polar opposite of you. The reason I find digital art so fascinating is because I suck at it, and I'm trying to learn it, but I'm too used to paper art. I don't suck at the drawing itself anymore, but I just really suck at doing the digital coloring, but I don't have a printer at home to print out my digitally drawn sketches.
R/thathappend
@@pixelg7047 that story wasn’t even that unbelievable, it is possible for that to happen, just asking, what about the story made you think it didn’t happen?
That part with the over promising job prospects and connections is certainly true. In fact when my old art school finally got sued by the Dept of Justice for fraud that was one of the reasons.
The funny thing is the only reason I got into drawing was because of fan art. I wanted to recreate the character with my own interpretation and see how they would look. I also just liked the character.
Art teachers seeing anime:
isn't art
Art teachers seeing different colored scribbles on a paper:
*Now this is art*
Edit:Thanks for all the likes ive never gotten so many!
the anime artist: in this work of mine, i tried to expose the ignorance, hate and insults of the society to people who is different from them and how these people fee-
art school: *THIS IS UGLY SHIT*
random mOdErn artist: idk man. just bought some expensive paints and scribbled with them.
art school: *NOW THIS IS THE R E A L ART*
「アキラαкιяα」 what I hate about it is the regular snobby attitude of the common people taste is worthless and only does with great taste and intelligent knows better then regular people.. okay I like modern art but I also like anime.. and I would mind some made a amine about modern art and so .. think about it a Anime about Andy Warhol.. The Factory.. Velvet Underground.. Studio 56 .. someone take my money and make it already..
To me, if you call anything art it is art
i would like but it has 269 likes
Edit: I did it anyways :>
I call it Bold and Brad
Lavender: *posts*
Me: Yeah sure why not.
Me later: I'm still going, and I'll use my teacher's blood as red paint if they say anime sucks or fanart is trash.
Blood can be rlly nice paint, conaidering it changes colors when dried
@@fridaysketches9686 That is true :0
Mood
@@strawberryspike8006 yeah lol
Good plan👌
Fanart was how I ✨found my art style✨ it’s not a ✨bad thing to do✨ show everybody your fanart guys be proud ✨✨
(As long as you’re not tracing ofc)
I absolutely love your art style!!! Your art is amazing and the shading is so cool!!!