Crazy, these things will be at high 10's without heads and intake manifold. Imagine what a legit fbo/hci would look like! You guys rock for spending the time to elaborate your results. Data driven...that's why I'm a current customer!
Tune curiosity: is anyone concerned about adding HP in regards to wearing out internal engine parts prematurely?? Is everyone forging internals? I have a stock 2018 Premium GT 6 spd manual. I'm in California so I'm somewhat limited. I'm thinking of a basic tune with CAI. Daily Weekend type car. Not looking to race but maybe add 25-40 HP. Looking for feedback!
@@TheHardestArtist707 if you stay N/A don't worry about the internals and you boost it. Lund and many others say 800whp on E85 or race gas is a safe number that will last a long time. Obviously once you double the hp of a stock motor anything can happen but many people live at 7-800 on stock internals
Insanely fast for what has been done to the car, the 10 speed specifically. My 2015 GT has a Circle D 4c 3800 stall in it and I can't wait to see how it effects the new 10 speed.
Wow.😮 Dodge Hellcat guy, here. What a great R&D video presentation. 🤔 I'm not a "fan-boy". I like all performance cars. What Mustangs are capable of is impressive. I learned much about the "concept" of tuning from this vid. Thx!👍
What blows my mine is e85 MPH from a N/A this is what a supercharger & some turbo cars are running. Can see what a stall converter would be running in the 10 sec.
Very nice work! Great job on this video very informative! As soon as I pick up my 18 gt performance pkg auto which I have ordered...I will definitely be getting a tune from you guys! I just can't decide on the JLT as I would like to be able to put it back to stock tune if I need to.
Ford did something magical with this Mustang and in my opinion is the first one to actually slap the Camaro around in many generations. Lets hope Ford can stay on top of things form here on out.
Unreal! Awsome work and video, im thinking you will definitely have to tune my 18 when it comes in the spring, BTW, love the ghost cam tune, don't care if its just for sound! Its nasty and i love it!, keep it coming, ill be subscribed!
Can anyone help me So the check engine light went on on my 2018 mustang gt did the flex tune on E85 lundtune and it has this code pO171/p0174 before it was on the 93 tune empty the thank close to 0 miles fill up ran it for 30 then drove and this happen if anyone has some info thanks
Dang unless the car is running more than 460 to the crank from factory thats only a 7.5% drivetrain loss going from 460 crank to 424 wheel thats pretty crazy. if it made 500 crank it would be a 15% loss to get to 424 wheel.
Hey guys I just purchased my 2020 mustang gt and I'm going to be doing basic bolt ons shortly and I found this used ngauge with a custom tune in it for the same bolt ons on my car . Am I able to use the tune in the ngauge or do I have to get a new one?
Awesome video. Would be nice if you sold the tuner & 2018 JLT together. It looks like the 2018 JLT is 120mm. 2017 JLT is 110mm correct?? Great job guys.
Does the flex fuel tune get the same gains as the e85 tune when there's e85 in the tank or is it comprised by being able to do both fuels like these other tuners try to say
big yee 15-17 only gained about 15 peak but about 35 under the curve due to torque management limiting the throttle throughout the rpm range. Eliminating that is where the big under the curve gains come from on 15-17 Manuals. On 2018s there is none of that. OEM Ford allows the throttle to stay wide open. And peak gains are about 8-11 rwhp as discussed in the video. There really aren’t much more under the curve gains. Ford did this same technique on the GT350s.
Lund Racing the transmission tuning you guys are doing has to be on point for the car to perform like that but not really gaining much HP through the tune.
Lund Racing I have a 2018 F150 regular cab short bed with the 5.0 and 10 speed The truck did a 13.23 at 103 bone stock I Wanna get it tuned now I live in Pennsylvania are you guys Intrested doing something with the truck like you did those cars
Great Vid Jon - you took care of my E85/Cobra Jet Intake manifold tune that we just fixed the speedo on. I appreciate how quickly you responded to my requests throughout the whole thing. I went and test drove a 2018 and it felt very slow compared to my 2013, if you recall I made 449/381 with stock exhaust manifolds on E85 - any thoughts on what Long Tubes would get me to? Thanks, Mike
Not sure if your familiar with the dodge srt platform 6.4 can u do that on the scat pack with e85 as well,mix e85 with 93 octane or will u damage the car.
Hoping someone can shed some light for me. Im on AM's site now about to purchase the JLT and Nguage combo. With the E85. Do I install the CAI, then datalog the car, then send you the datalogs?
Hey I noticed lethal performance is selling your tunes for the 2018 already. I was just curious if enough RnD has been done and is ready to go. Highly interested in getting one. But I'm sure that new injection system has some new things to figure out
Not at all. I have a 6th gen Camaro and progress like this makes me happy. Watching Ford and Chevy come out with such stout performance vehicles for the price they are at, is an amazing feat.
Excellent! I will be a customer. The results of the 2018 in very close to blower territory on the 15 - 17 coyote. I'm running the Roush tune with the P2 setup. I feel there is a lot on the table. Also, running the 6r80 box, while missing the standard for sure... your detail and knowledge is top notch... Is it really worth a remote data tune on my current setup?
Lund Racing on the 15-17 S550, will using the hand break and foot break allow me to launch a bit higher than my current 2200 rpm launch ? Can’t believe you can get 2500 on the hand break and foot break
Ohmar Rodriguez it should help some yes! Sticky tire helps too since it’s going to hold the tire on the launch pad better along with the brakes holding.
You know those numbers make no sense don't you. Bone stock with ET/R tires was 11.92 and with just adding a Lund tune you went to 11.61/11.56. How much hp gain is needed ffor a 0.3 second ET improvement? This in view of you guys saying Ford did a good job with tuning and didn't leave much on the table.
Most of those 93 tune gains were due to the trans side of it. It doesnt pick up alot of power on 93 but with the auto the trans shifts much better and is mostly what gave them those gains along with a little additional power.
First of all thank you for a truly fantastic video, I am a customer of yours and have sent you many customers. Some questions: - Is the A10 car mag ride? - Any suspension mods at all, or is the only suspension mod the sticky tyres? - Panel filter removal? So you ran no filter in the box at all? Surely that is dangerous?
Gibbo205 not a mag ride. Stock suspension and those wheels/tire only. And correct no panel filter. On the street we wouldn’t recommend it in case a rock or other debris flips up from other cars driving but at the track there is less risk.
Makes sense, thank you. So a chance a mag ride car could be a tenth quick with its drag mode on the dampers and the fact I think mag ride cars are a touch lighter as well due to the DSSV dampers and other 350 suspension parts. Does the 2018 air box still have the carbon trap in the lid? If so did you also try removing that?
Gibbo205 I doubt the magnaride makes any difference in the quarter. And we didn’t remove the carbon section. It’s a very small part of the box and when you remove the air filter it really has not restriction at that point so removing the carbon trap isn’t going to really limit anything.
Looking at ordering from you for my 18 GT with PP1 & 10R80 + JLT + x-pipe. I am wondering if your transmission tuning on a non PP1 car will affect the tune when loaded onto mine because of the gearing?
Hey brother, just bought a 2019 gt pp1......there should be no issues with a roush CAI and Lund tuner and tune for e85??? I'm asking because I am going from the EcoBoost and have never used the Lund tuner before...
I've never understood how these fellas can wear those hats indoors, or even in warm climates, like Florida. I would be roasting. It would literally fry my brain.
Let me tell you. This mustang craze was started in Long Island back in the late 80’s you could walk out with a stick lx for 14k and people around the NYC area had the money to drop 5,10,15 grand or more on mods. Mustang Magic is the shop that knows these cars better than anyone. Nobody was talking Lund 5 years ago. These coyote panty boys got all moist over E85 and Tunes. Good luck with your stick engine throwing all that boost and timing. You guys cry over breaking a trans made in China. Trying having to pay for a new engine out of warranty because you were wanting to be like these guys. They blow an engine they tell one of their mechanics they pay 25 dollars an hour to install the new engine. The rest of you will be taking a line of credit on your home equity.
Absolutely unreal how well these cars run even right out of the box.
The most informative, intelligent, objective no BS video I have ever seen on the subject.
2018 are a beast 11.3 124 just with a cold intake and e85 tune
Not sure it had a CAI, he says they just ran the stock air box with no filter, maybe Lund can confirm?
Gibbo205 holy sh*t not even a cold intake
I have headers and cold intake, e85 tune,gt350 intake and when I dyno it all
I got was 430
Lund=beast mode
bioni007 124 can run tens with enough suspension work and dialed in slicks.
preludeF20Bking it just blow my mind then what is the gt500 going to do 9s
bioni007 i was also wondering the same thing. Ford has big shoes to fill with the Shelby
@Lund Racing This is really great R&D, keep up the awesome work. Really looking forward to seeing the numbers for long tubes.
Crazy, these things will be at high 10's without heads and intake manifold. Imagine what a legit fbo/hci would look like! You guys rock for spending the time to elaborate your results. Data driven...that's why I'm a current customer!
Tune curiosity: is anyone concerned about adding HP in regards to wearing out internal engine parts prematurely?? Is everyone forging internals? I have a stock 2018 Premium GT 6 spd manual. I'm in California so I'm somewhat limited. I'm thinking of a basic tune with CAI. Daily Weekend type car. Not looking to race but maybe add 25-40 HP. Looking for feedback!
@@TheHardestArtist707 if you stay N/A don't worry about the internals and you boost it. Lund and many others say 800whp on E85 or race gas is a safe number that will last a long time. Obviously once you double the hp of a stock motor anything can happen but many people live at 7-800 on stock internals
@@TheHardestArtist707ppl making 750 WHP stock block stock trans ( auto & manual ) all day the gen 3 coyote ( 18-23 ) is strong
Best and most informative video I’ve seen yet on the 2018’s. Great approach towards both transmissions. Thank you.
Great job by Lund Racing. They put my 2012 in the 9’s this week
Tommy H.O. What's done to it
Would love to see what a 85MM BTB throttlebody would do to the #
Insanely fast for what has been done to the car, the 10 speed specifically. My 2015 GT has a Circle D 4c 3800 stall in it and I can't wait to see how it effects the new 10 speed.
Can't wait to see what these things make with some long tubes
Appreciate the systematic approach to doing things in a true logical form. Great job with the auto so far.
Gregg Herbert systematic way to blow your engine and most likely destroying your block. Having these engines running high hp is not realistic.
Wow.😮 Dodge Hellcat guy, here. What a great R&D video presentation. 🤔 I'm not a "fan-boy". I like all performance cars. What Mustangs are capable of is impressive. I learned much about the "concept" of tuning from this vid. Thx!👍
Great info thanks for sharing! That 10 speed auto is amazing on the drag strip!
Thanks for doing this video. I think we'd all like to see similar videos for GT350's, GT500's, etc.
Wow you guys are a great company. Keep up the great work.
What blows my mine is e85 MPH from a N/A this is what a supercharger & some turbo cars are running. Can see what a stall converter would be running in the 10 sec.
Awesome!! Can’t wait for you guys to tune my 2015 whipple car. Just gotta install the headers, converter and bap
What waste of money !
Great video and impressive performance with all the tuning setups, if only this Mustang were a couple hundred pounds lighter.
That's sick... You lifted the front wheel...
Great video...nice work!
Very nice work! Great job on this video very informative! As soon as I pick up my 18 gt performance pkg auto which I have ordered...I will definitely be getting a tune from you guys! I just can't decide on the JLT as I would like to be able to put it back to stock tune if I need to.
Great video. Any update on long tubes and IM or TB upgrade etc?
Ford did something magical with this Mustang and in my opinion is the first one to actually slap the Camaro around in many generations. Lets hope Ford can stay on top of things form here on out.
Unreal! Awsome work and video, im thinking you will definitely have to tune my 18 when it comes in the spring, BTW, love the ghost cam tune, don't care if its just for sound! Its nasty and i love it!, keep it coming, ill be subscribed!
Can anyone help me So the check engine light went on on my 2018 mustang gt did the flex tune on E85 lundtune and it has this code pO171/p0174 before it was on the 93 tune empty the thank close to 0 miles fill up ran it for 30 then drove and this happen if anyone has some info thanks
Filter delete vs JLT?
My Lord these things FBO might be some seriously fast cars I can already see all the pissed off camaro guys making excuses
cookymunster full bolt ons will run with stock hell cats 😂😎
I know longer have my 6th gen Camaro that was heads and cam with a 427 long block. I have a blown 2020 10 speed and omg I haven’t looked back
Dang unless the car is running more than 460 to the crank from factory thats only a 7.5% drivetrain loss going from 460 crank to 424 wheel thats pretty crazy. if it made 500 crank it would be a 15% loss to get to 424 wheel.
Hey guys I just purchased my 2020 mustang gt and I'm going to be doing basic bolt ons shortly and I found this used ngauge with a custom tune in it for the same bolt ons on my car . Am I able to use the tune in the ngauge or do I have to get a new one?
Awesome video. Would be nice if you sold the tuner & 2018 JLT together. It looks like the 2018 JLT is 120mm. 2017 JLT is 110mm correct?? Great job guys.
Is that with hood up or down?
Curious to see what just cat delete adds
Mike Burke more noise....
Matt Davis coyotes make big gains from cat deletes
rebirth_ 18 cm
Thanks for the video. My doubt is..a tune is a gain of 11whp . a catback gave me more than 10..
So question is is a simple tune worth it? (NO Cai
Also last question just at about 220 miles on this new motor, should I wait the 1k mile break in before?
Does the flex fuel tune get the same gains as the e85 tune when there's e85 in the tank or is it comprised by being able to do both fuels like these other tuners try to say
I heard these cars are pretty much maxed out from the factory and that a tune and mods wont yield the same hp gain as with the 2015-2017 is that true?
big yee 15-17 only gained about 15 peak but about 35 under the curve due to torque management limiting the throttle throughout the rpm range. Eliminating that is where the big under the curve gains come from on 15-17 Manuals. On 2018s there is none of that. OEM Ford allows the throttle to stay wide open. And peak gains are about 8-11 rwhp as discussed in the video. There really aren’t much more under the curve gains. Ford did this same technique on the GT350s.
Lund Racing gotcha man thanks.
Lund Racing the transmission tuning you guys are doing has to be on point for the car to perform like that but not really gaining much HP through the tune.
Lund Racing I have a 2018 F150 regular cab short bed with the 5.0 and 10 speed The truck did a 13.23 at 103 bone stock I Wanna get it tuned now I live in Pennsylvania are you guys Intrested doing something with the truck like you did those cars
Maurice Cooper we will eventually yes! Probably not until after the new year though.
Stupid question here: what supporting mods are needed to run E85 on the 2018 mustang??
Great Vid Jon - you took care of my E85/Cobra Jet Intake manifold tune that we just fixed the speedo on. I appreciate how quickly you responded to my requests throughout the whole thing. I went and test drove a 2018 and it felt very slow compared to my 2013, if you recall I made 449/381 with stock exhaust manifolds on E85 - any thoughts on what Long Tubes would get me to?
Thanks,
Mike
michael glad to hear it! you’ll probably see 10-15 rwhp gain with long tubes
Not sure if your familiar with the dodge srt platform 6.4 can u do that on the scat pack with e85 as well,mix e85 with 93 octane or will u damage the car.
Still crazy thinking about how I was going to purchase this car🤗
Hoping someone can shed some light for me. Im on AM's site now about to purchase the JLT and Nguage combo. With the E85. Do I install the CAI, then datalog the car, then send you the datalogs?
Hey I noticed lethal performance is selling your tunes for the 2018 already. I was just curious if enough RnD has been done and is ready to go. Highly interested in getting one. But I'm sure that new injection system has some new things to figure out
Hi Junior. I’m interested in one of those I have a 2018 Gt 301A. Also do you recommend a JLT over a PMAS intake.?
These runs on auto in track mode ? Sport ? Normal?
What was the Automatic Dyno Hp?
You guys have the crowd over at camaro6 about to lose their minds hating on your times!
Haha na they dont care. Fast car i guess too bad it could take corners as good as a 6gen camaro tho
Not at all. I have a 6th gen Camaro and progress like this makes me happy. Watching Ford and Chevy come out with such stout performance vehicles for the price they are at, is an amazing feat.
Did u have to modify anything to run e85
Dmitri Chergibayev nope!
Excellent! I will be a customer. The results of the 2018 in very close to blower territory on the 15 - 17 coyote. I'm running the Roush tune with the P2 setup. I feel there is a lot on the table. Also, running the 6r80 box, while missing the standard for sure... your detail and knowledge is top notch... Is it really worth a remote data tune on my current setup?
Daniel Stavely if you want it to shift higher and quicker it’s definitely worth the time and money to have us tune it! Email support@lundracing.com !
Is there a Lund tune for 2020 GTs?
Man....i just wonder what's next... 2020 comming soon
What are you launching at ? The car squats a lot for an auto on stock converter
Ohmar Rodriguez around 2500 or so. Using footbrake and emergency brake to stall.
Lund Racing on the 15-17 S550, will using the hand break and foot break allow me to launch a bit higher than my current 2200 rpm launch ? Can’t believe you can get 2500 on the hand break and foot break
Ohmar Rodriguez it should help some yes! Sticky tire helps too since it’s going to hold the tire on the launch pad better along with the brakes holding.
Ohmar Rodriguez on the 2018, yes.
Was there anything you had to do with injectors or bap to run e85?
Travis Jennings no sir. All oem.
Do the stock injectors work for e85 on 2018?
RavnusCoyote Yes, no injector changes need NA.
Sweet color mustang.
You know those numbers make no sense don't you. Bone stock with ET/R tires was 11.92 and with just adding a Lund tune you went to 11.61/11.56. How much hp gain is needed ffor a 0.3 second ET improvement? This in view of you guys saying Ford did a good job with tuning and didn't leave much on the table.
Most of those 93 tune gains were due to the trans side of it. It doesnt pick up alot of power on 93 but with the auto the trans shifts much better and is mostly what gave them those gains along with a little additional power.
First of all thank you for a truly fantastic video, I am a customer of yours and have sent you many customers. Some questions:
- Is the A10 car mag ride?
- Any suspension mods at all, or is the only suspension mod the sticky tyres?
- Panel filter removal? So you ran no filter in the box at all? Surely that is dangerous?
Gibbo205 not a mag ride. Stock suspension and those wheels/tire only. And correct no panel filter. On the street we wouldn’t recommend it in case a rock or other debris flips up from other cars driving but at the track there is less risk.
Makes sense, thank you. So a chance a mag ride car could be a tenth quick with its drag mode on the dampers and the fact I think mag ride cars are a touch lighter as well due to the DSSV dampers and other 350 suspension parts.
Does the 2018 air box still have the carbon trap in the lid? If so did you also try removing that?
Gibbo205 I doubt the magnaride makes any difference in the quarter. And we didn’t remove the carbon section. It’s a very small part of the box and when you remove the air filter it really has not restriction at that point so removing the carbon trap isn’t going to really limit anything.
Great video 👍
Wow.
Lund is the best. Period.
those are pretty good numbers nice to see its making more then 460 at the crank hahah :D
How much for a tune? $$
I just got my 18 gt. Are these true flex fuel tunes, or e85 only tunes? I was looking at the kits on your website.
It's Ford's Flex fuel which uses the OEM widebands and closed loop fuel control to "learn" the ethanol % on the fly. It's not like a flex fuel sensor.
Lund Racing thankyou for replying, once i get my car broke in, i will buy the ngauge with tune.
I know what tune I’m getting
Looking at ordering from you for my 18 GT with PP1 & 10R80 + JLT + x-pipe. I am wondering if your transmission tuning on a non PP1 car will affect the tune when loaded onto mine because of the gearing?
Hey brother, just bought a 2019 gt pp1......there should be no issues with a roush CAI and Lund tuner and tune for e85???
I'm asking because I am going from the EcoBoost and have never used the Lund tuner before...
Do you guys still tune the 99-04 gts?
Lund Racing #1
I have a Ford Mustang GT Model that looks exactly like it!!!!!!!!!!
Just put on a power added and call it a day.
I've never understood how these fellas can wear those hats indoors, or even in warm climates, like Florida. I would be roasting. It would literally fry my brain.
Anyone indian here , then you must be knowing the funny part
XD
Sweet video but that hat looks horrendous.
nateyzf if 10-2 NFL record is horrendous then I guess I need to root for the 49ers. Lolololol
jonjund hey man I like you guys at LR, leave my 49"ers alone lol
GO EAGLES
😴
CARRYMINATI ZINDABAD!
This is a लंड कार
I got the know the older dude in Lund racing, he is a racist
Let me tell you. This mustang craze was started in Long Island back in the late 80’s you could walk out with a stick lx for 14k and people around the NYC area had the money to drop 5,10,15 grand or more on mods. Mustang Magic is the shop that knows these cars better than anyone. Nobody was talking Lund 5 years ago. These coyote panty boys got all moist over E85 and Tunes. Good luck with your stick engine throwing all that boost and timing. You guys cry over breaking a trans made in China. Trying having to pay for a new engine out of warranty because you were wanting to be like these guys. They blow an engine they tell one of their mechanics they pay 25 dollars an hour to install the new engine. The rest of you will be taking a line of credit on your home equity.
Warranty is for pussies. If it blown it blows, it's part of the game.