10 Mistakes Violinists & VIOLISTS make everyday - Fix these BAD HABITS ❌

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  • Опубліковано 22 тра 2024
  • Are you making some of these BAD habits? Watch this video to ensure you’re not wasting time or leading yourself to injury. And after becoming aware, practice enforcing the GOOD habits on Tonic: tonicmusic.app/practice-now
    0:00 - Intro
    0:23 - Mistake 1
    1:59 - Mistake 2
    2:28 - Mistake 3
    3:00 - Mistake 4
    3:34 - Mistake 5
    4:02 - Mistake 6
    4:27 - Mistake 7
    5:01 - Mistake 8
    5:23 - Mistake 9
    6:02 - Mistake 10

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  • @RayChenViolinist
    @RayChenViolinist  6 місяців тому +42

    Enjoying free educational content and want to learn more? Join the practice community on Tonic: tonicmusic.app/join-in to receive feedback and motivation from others! 🎵

    • @lecidcampeador
      @lecidcampeador 5 місяців тому

      Traslate spanish please. We are rigths too

    • @foxie_figure
      @foxie_figure 2 місяці тому

      Wait a second one reply and 35 likes lemme fix this

  • @MathMith
    @MathMith 6 місяців тому +459

    I don't know if you guys realize how lucky we all are to live in a universe where one of the best soloist in the world is also a UA-camr. It's like having Mozart streaming weekly stuff like 10 best tricks to write a catchy masterpiece. This is truly the best time to start learning the violin! Thanks so much Ray, also, Tonic is awesome.

    • @pradagio_
      @pradagio_ 5 місяців тому +6

      Well said indeed!

    • @isabellalucia7820
      @isabellalucia7820 5 місяців тому +12

      And Mozart would SO have loved clowning about, improvising on social media!

    • @ronaldmoretto4844
      @ronaldmoretto4844 4 місяці тому +2

      I was about to write the same thing! I’m using tonic as a way to repay and support Rays lifetime hard work. 感谢陈锐

    • @shantil7764
      @shantil7764 4 місяці тому +1

      Agree !!!!

    • @antine1279
      @antine1279 4 місяці тому +2

      Not just that, but the internet (if you use it well) is an enormous gift. You can learn nearly anything from anywhere, mostly for free

  • @Crispy_nuggets
    @Crispy_nuggets 6 місяців тому +274

    Me, a non-musician : I'm gonna need this for my next life

    • @RayChenViolinist
      @RayChenViolinist  6 місяців тому +81

      Never too late to start now! There's quite a few adult beginner groups on Tonic. Why not live the dream and make a few friends as well?

    • @Crispy_nuggets
      @Crispy_nuggets 6 місяців тому +30

      @@RayChenViolinist Yeah I'm thinking to learn the violin in the future. You inspired me so much!!

    • @hast3033
      @hast3033 6 місяців тому +17

      It's worth starting at any age, indeed Id argue adults have it easier due to their cognitive maturation coupled with the free and unlimited guides online today.

    • @tarjena
      @tarjena 6 місяців тому +8

      I'm not a musician either but still play the piano😄
      I love the time spent at the keyboard and focusing on little details. This is a safe zone - noone gets hurt😊
      Why wouldn't you start the violin?🙂

    • @indignocat
      @indignocat 6 місяців тому +7

      I began at age 33, paused for 10 years, and here I am at age 43 doing scales and exercising to Laoureux and Schradieck.
      Don't compare yourself to anyone but your past self.

  • @ansonwong5850
    @ansonwong5850 6 місяців тому +73

    3:16
    The greatest violinist at all time😂
    15 “notes” per second

    • @tygrtales6319
      @tygrtales6319 6 місяців тому +13

      I was searching for this comment😂

    • @grabsmench
      @grabsmench 6 місяців тому +15

      6:28 "this is why I always encourage musicians to practice in front of others" *shows Ray practicing in front of a horse*

    • @HugoChong1
      @HugoChong1 6 місяців тому

      ​@@tygrtales6319Me twoooo

  • @clonebin0
    @clonebin0 6 місяців тому +10

    3:16 "the greatest violinists of our time"...shows the 15 notes/second guy haha

  • @karlwinkler66
    @karlwinkler66 6 місяців тому +12

    Including the World’s Fastest Violinist in the “eyes open” lineup cracked me up! Thanks for the valuable tips!!!

  • @antonruinsmusic551
    @antonruinsmusic551 6 місяців тому +14

    Why am I watching this? I don't even play violin. But now I kind of want to...

  • @kittychan8900
    @kittychan8900 6 місяців тому +30

    I love how Ray has such a coherent, organized and precise way of conveying his thoughts and advices. This is so easy to follow and a lot to learn for a video this short! Thorough efforts on Ray, the camera and also the editing work

  • @jayrivera5787
    @jayrivera5787 День тому

    I’m so glad UA-cam exist cause I’m working on getting a violin so I can start playing and practicing again and I’m just watching video after video so get a deeper understanding of the instrument so when I get it I won’t be diving in mindlessly and trying to figure out everything at once

  • @SnowJingxueWang
    @SnowJingxueWang 6 місяців тому +7

    Please please please Ray we need more educational videos!!!

  • @johnknox2449
    @johnknox2449 6 місяців тому +6

    Thanks Ray, 64 and my first lesson is this Sunday.

  • @Lord-Davester
    @Lord-Davester 6 місяців тому +11

    Ray, my kids (8 & 11) love you! We saw you on your birthday when you played with the BSO. They’ve been playing violin for 4 years and these are all key techniques that they practice constantly. Even if they ‘beat’ a bad habit, it can sneak back in a year later. We’re constantly tweaking our practice to address whatever we need to. We love practicing the same phrase or song that needs work, and using that to also focus on a given technique. The repetition really helps! 🎻

  • @bryanlin8333
    @bryanlin8333 6 місяців тому +2

    3:14 “greatest violinists of all time” *inserts sacrilegious boi*

  • @allthethings09
    @allthethings09 2 місяці тому +1

    I've played violin for 24 years and I never knew about violin placement! Teachers would sometimes remind me to hold up my violin, but that was it. Knowing WHERE to place your violin is vital for streamlining your playing and preventing injury. And yeah, one of my teachers (the best one, of course) had me spend quite a bit of time dropping my right shoulder in order to play string crossings cleanly and effectively. Thanks for such nuggets of wisdom!

  • @yingyangmapper5399
    @yingyangmapper5399 6 місяців тому +30

    Gotta love these educational videos, as a beginner I really appreciate them, thanks Ray ❤

  • @ReyanshGhosh
    @ReyanshGhosh 6 місяців тому +3

    thanks for mentions us violas in the video

  • @jiminyjames
    @jiminyjames 5 місяців тому +2

    the left shoulder school bag was personal

  • @jimmypaghasian6390
    @jimmypaghasian6390 4 місяці тому +1

    I’m proud to say that I’m guilty and still practicing all of these ten mistakes. Because I don’t go to any music school or proper training. I just learned to play Violin through hearing. Thanks for these professionals who share their knowledge and skills here in You tube University.

  • @smithmusicstudies
    @smithmusicstudies 6 місяців тому +6

    I feel more confident in my teaching! I teach all these things! ❤

  • @MirrorViewer
    @MirrorViewer 6 місяців тому +1

    From teaching me vibrato to waking up and playing Mendy with Brett, boi Ray has got it in with us.m

  • @mcgrewsbrew7535
    @mcgrewsbrew7535 6 місяців тому

    this is an amazing video!!! Thanks Ray!

  • @nickiemcnichols5397
    @nickiemcnichols5397 6 місяців тому

    Thanks Ray!

  • @cansualexa
    @cansualexa 6 місяців тому

    Thank you!!

  • @antonvf9619
    @antonvf9619 6 місяців тому

    so useful! many thanks

  • @xeilentynhiazekairva
    @xeilentynhiazekairva 13 годин тому

    Thank you!❤

  • @ernestmulenga9791
    @ernestmulenga9791 4 місяці тому

    Great insight

  • @DavidDavid-cc7bk
    @DavidDavid-cc7bk 6 місяців тому

    Ray keep making these kind of videos they are super helpful and inspiring

  • @vivianguo7872
    @vivianguo7872 6 місяців тому +1

    I started using tonic almost a month ago and I am practicing piano and violin so much more! Also, a fake Ray Chen joined my studio and I thought it was u. Now I am just simply furious at that imposter! Thx so much for creating tonic! Everyone on there is so nice!

  • @rec2you
    @rec2you 6 місяців тому

    Thank you!

  • @rocketracoon399
    @rocketracoon399 6 місяців тому

    Thanks for the tips Ray ❤🎻

  • @Skinny_Karlos
    @Skinny_Karlos 15 днів тому

    Pratice in front of a mirror and use that mirror for about 5 min's a session to observe your violin placement and posture to 'get it right. It really does help.
    Mirrors aren't just for shaving or putting on makeup.

  • @JessicaMa-cu1lv
    @JessicaMa-cu1lv 6 місяців тому

    SO helpful

  • @Astorid_Zero01
    @Astorid_Zero01 4 місяці тому

    Thanks Ray

  • @daviddaasian9685
    @daviddaasian9685 6 місяців тому

    Thanks professor Chen

  • @dsouther11
    @dsouther11 6 місяців тому +6

    I’m loving these tip videos. I’m an adult learner and have been playing violin for two years. I definitely have a bad habit of holding my violin too low, when I adjusted it to where you said, it was so much easier to keep my bow where I want it. My daughter has been learning for almost a year now on a 1/8th violin, she is also benefiting from your tips. Also, she says, if she keeps practicing and practicing she’ll get better and better and when she’s older she can play as good as you and even Hillary Hahn.

  • @chrisma3256
    @chrisma3256 6 місяців тому +7

    Love that you featured your mom 😊
    Thanks for the advice!
    Left shoulder and tension are something I'm often working on and falling back into bad habits when practicing lots.

  • @ViolinWithKids
    @ViolinWithKids 4 місяці тому

    Oh my gosh, this stuff is gold. Thank you Ray!!

  • @estherc3618
    @estherc3618 6 місяців тому +1

    thank you so much for these tips

  • @evitanewcombe8792
    @evitanewcombe8792 6 місяців тому +1

    Great suggestion! Thank you

  • @sadhbhdelahunt
    @sadhbhdelahunt 6 місяців тому +2

    Thanks so much, very helpful.

  • @Amywithlove148
    @Amywithlove148 5 місяців тому

    Great sharing n useful points ❤

  • @vivianguo7872
    @vivianguo7872 6 місяців тому +3

    Ray, thank u so much for making tonic!

  • @davidcharles5220
    @davidcharles5220 6 місяців тому

    These days Ray keeps making videos that I really need, and it's helped me a lot, keep it up Ray.

  • @mccafferyfamily
    @mccafferyfamily 6 місяців тому

    This is great stuff. Love your online content ...

  • @mehraneahmadi645
    @mehraneahmadi645 6 місяців тому

    Thank you Ray ..these series of videos that you're making are so HELPFUL 💙🙏

  • @jonathanurbano1329
    @jonathanurbano1329 6 місяців тому

    So true! Been happening to me and still doing my best to rectify. Great tips! Thanks a lot!

  • @monikas4379
    @monikas4379 6 місяців тому

    Thanks

  • @augustinechinnappanmuthria7042
    @augustinechinnappanmuthria7042 5 місяців тому

    Super super super lovely tips

  • @guillermoramirez8444
    @guillermoramirez8444 6 місяців тому

    Awesome, Awesome video!! 👏🏽Will have all these in mind in my next Tonic practice session! 😃

  • @hunterblakely87
    @hunterblakely87 6 місяців тому

    You, sir, are an excellent business man

  • @elil2894
    @elil2894 6 місяців тому

    Thank you Ray! I'm from Brazil

  • @craftingafterdark
    @craftingafterdark 6 місяців тому +1

    What a sweet and silly shout-out to your mom! Love it ❤

  • @johndeer4250
    @johndeer4250 6 місяців тому

    first tip was a logical but never thought of thanks so much let’s hear the rest now !

  • @Krzaku7312
    @Krzaku7312 6 місяців тому

    It is nice to know these things
    Those videos really help!!!
    Thx

  • @wakingtheworld
    @wakingtheworld 6 місяців тому

    Excellent vid, Ray. Most helpful. Crucial to fix bad habits early on. Raised right shoulder is mine!

  • @wolf-studio
    @wolf-studio 6 місяців тому

    I started learning violin last year and this video really helps. Thanks Ray!

  • @sabrinai
    @sabrinai 6 місяців тому

    Best tonic ad in this video with all the mama Chen love ❤

  • @prilinlinduarte3067
    @prilinlinduarte3067 6 місяців тому

    Foe more videos like this🎉🎉 Thanks ray❤

  • @DiegoCristiC
    @DiegoCristiC 5 місяців тому

    thaaank you 😁

  • @teresarandolph6576
    @teresarandolph6576 6 місяців тому

    This is excellent advice. I’m going to watch it every day before I practice!

  • @Viola_Player
    @Viola_Player 6 місяців тому +4

    Thank you so much for these tips! I didn’t know that I was doing these bad habits until you mentioned them! Your a life saver 🙏

  • @dm-jz7se
    @dm-jz7se 6 місяців тому

    This is a really good video. Thanks

  • @cockerspaniel2344
    @cockerspaniel2344 6 місяців тому +5

    Incredible video - I'm still extremely impressed of your videos and duets with Karolina, hoping you will repeat playing together. Great 'job', 'Cocker Spaniel' from Germany. 👍😉🙋‍♀️

  • @alexkuamoo3874
    @alexkuamoo3874 6 місяців тому

    I have done all of these. Nailed it.

  • @robinshen8364
    @robinshen8364 6 місяців тому

    Love this guy. Like seriously, how can you not?

  • @erintreasure6935
    @erintreasure6935 5 місяців тому +1

    Thanks. Tips 1 and 7 made an immediate significant difference for me

  • @LPnotes
    @LPnotes 6 місяців тому

    Thanks for these tips! It's been years since I've taken a violin lesson so all of this was a good reminder.

  • @mevans4715
    @mevans4715 5 місяців тому

    I’m a long time violinist and I’m guilty of a few of these. I am aware of course and I’m working on fixing the problems. Thanks for the tips.

  • @jamesknoblock1064
    @jamesknoblock1064 6 місяців тому

    Enjoyed the subtle shout out to your teacher Aaron Rosand.

  • @jnee3873
    @jnee3873 6 місяців тому

    OMG, THANKS SO MUCH, IT SAVED MY LIFE ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

  • @paulinegrou
    @paulinegrou 6 місяців тому

    I've been practicing the violin for about 20 years, and I still find that type of video super interesting ! Tried Tonic too and I love it !

  • @inspirationalroseswashere..
    @inspirationalroseswashere.. 6 місяців тому

    Concise, quick, and easy to follow. I like this video.
    This also makes me happy that I don’t follow a majority of these habits

  • @olitown_3840
    @olitown_3840 6 місяців тому

    Thank you this was very helpful!! I just started learning violin and im super excited to practice and learn more about the instrument! (Im going from double bass to violin so its a little strange but still very fun)

  • @ShulmiyatsViolin
    @ShulmiyatsViolin Місяць тому

    Thanks you! Greetings from England! I am playing violin since 6 years old:)

  • @idvbadchase
    @idvbadchase 6 місяців тому +1

    Oh my thank you, good reminders for my students and myself! ❤🎉

  • @christaherwig0404
    @christaherwig0404 6 місяців тому +2

    Thanks Ray, I'm learning more and more why you play so well💖🎻and you give so much practical advice that everyone, musicians or non-musicians, is eagerly waiting for🫶

  • @vincentstone7272
    @vincentstone7272 6 місяців тому

    Insanely high quality video!

  • @richardmorton4259
    @richardmorton4259 Місяць тому

    Excellent video! I am guilty of 2 thru 10 and will work on them.

  • @MD-zm6sn
    @MD-zm6sn 6 місяців тому +8

    Might be just because I'm from the deep south but the concept of someone with your qualifications and capabilities doing an analysis of the Devil Went Down to Georgia or learning it like you did with the Polyphia song is really interesting to me haha. There's a giant population of people still around that hold that song in quite high regard and it would catch a nice bit of interest.

  • @pacificnorthwestpilots6050
    @pacificnorthwestpilots6050 6 місяців тому +1

    The "world's fastest violinist" appreciates your shout out 😅

  • @nafizzeybek5300
    @nafizzeybek5300 6 місяців тому

    Thanks for the video, it very instructive video

  • @sabrinai
    @sabrinai 6 місяців тому

    What value there is in this video!

  • @jiheehan3133
    @jiheehan3133 5 місяців тому

    Thank you so much, Ray. I am sharing this video with my students. I’ll also highly recommend Tonic to them!

  • @firewall_2485
    @firewall_2485 2 місяці тому

    I’m in hs and a violinist of 6 years and this was still helpful. I might go and see about my shoulder because I have a similar problem.

  • @music389xd4
    @music389xd4 6 місяців тому +1

    Hello, I had the issue of where my left shoulder was lower than the other shoulder because of not knowing about these issues when I first learned violin and I needed to go to orthopedic once a week, so this really helps explain now about positioning violin and tension and how affects the left shoulder and can cause pain too. Thank you. That part is important! Still slightly slanted shoulders though at the moment, almost there. It is one of those, I wish I knew that sooner things.

  • @ezekhielmatining
    @ezekhielmatining 6 місяців тому +1

    ray chen never fails to fill me up with this delicious content!!

  • @emmanuelmengot9061
    @emmanuelmengot9061 6 місяців тому

    Thanks for the tips Ray.
    I have learned a lot from this video and I will do my best to improve on them God helping 🙏

  • @jessicawhite2779
    @jessicawhite2779 6 місяців тому +2

    This was great, thanks so much! I’m an orchestra teacher and will be sharing this with my students 😊❤

  • @kimninnette
    @kimninnette 6 місяців тому

    Great content. Some of these things I need to check that I don't do. Today's practice.
    I am an adult learner. I started to learn Violin 18 months ago in my 50's. It's not easy but I am enjoying it. It was an instrument I always wanted to learn as a child but never had the opportunity, now as my kids have grown up, it was my time to start.

  • @orhbo0
    @orhbo0 6 місяців тому +1

    This is a valuable video, thank you 😊
    How about a series on bowing techniques?

  • @chrisma3256
    @chrisma3256 6 місяців тому

    I really love the Tonic idea and found me lovely friends there. I just can't use it on my android these weeks. Currently I get the Bach challenge pop up and the Restart for an update pop every time I open it. I could probably start the app by going offline completely (worked on my kid's phone when she had the issue on another android phone a while ago) but since most pages didn't even load before I lack motivation to waste time. My kid has stopped using it altogether and ceased to be upset for crashing studios. Some Tonic friends stopped using it, too. As lovely as it is to offer it for free it's sad when it doesn't work even enough to join a studio to listen.

  • @cynthiangai513
    @cynthiangai513 6 місяців тому

    Thank you for such a practical video Ray! Funny videos are interesting, but videos like these are most helpful for other violinists like me. BTW all the mistakes you talked about were mentioned by my teacher! 😂 I used to twist my wrist when I was playing some difficult chords and it took me half year to erase it from my habit. It would be great if we could hear more left hand tips from you! Thank you! 🫶🏽

  • @sparklingmagnolia
    @sparklingmagnolia 6 місяців тому +3

    Thanks for this vid, even though I’m a cellist😅
    Just downloaded Tonic though and so far I’m loving it!!

  • @mellissadalby1402
    @mellissadalby1402 Місяць тому

    Thank you Ray!
    I am an adult learner and these tips are quite relevant to me.

  • @Im_Super
    @Im_Super 5 місяців тому

    You really helped me on my grade 6 AMEB Air Variation 1. Thank You❤

  • @syenenen
    @syenenen 6 місяців тому

    thank you ray, your videos are so helpful and interesting!! i just got my first violin today so this just came right on time!! praying that i'll stick to learning it since i tried holding the violin and the bow earlier and it already feels heavy loool

  • @animationexplanations532
    @animationexplanations532 Місяць тому

    I don't play the Western scale I play the Indian Carnatic scale (sa-re-ga-ma instead of do-re-mi-fa) and we do things very different. We sit criss cross on the floor and keep the violin on our right heel and our chin on the right side of the violin instead of the left. I was struggling a ton with switching notes and a very shakey sound and when I watched this video I realized everything I had been doing was incorrect and that my posture was such a major problem as I was always hunched over with the bow sliding away from me. This way might work for my violin teacher but it certainly doesn't work for me....THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR VIDEOS 💖

  • @jackmalone2718
    @jackmalone2718 Місяць тому

    This video Is very helpful for my daughter thank you ray chen😊

  • @nickcarroll8565
    @nickcarroll8565 3 місяці тому

    #5 was definitely the one I used to do when I did orchestral playing. I always practiced standing up. Not it’s irrelevant because I only practice solo repertoire.

  • @OriannaCheah
    @OriannaCheah 6 місяців тому

    Hi Ray, greetings from Singapore 🇸🇬 😊 Thanks learn a lot from this 😅❤