How To Improve your Violin Posture! | Learn with Me

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КОМЕНТАРІ • 344

  • @SuminaStuder1
    @SuminaStuder1  3 роки тому +469

    Who else is on Team Flamingo-Neck 🙋🏻‍♀️

    • @singlesetpiano571
      @singlesetpiano571 3 роки тому +5

      We support you, Sumina!

    • @jeninahuang2929
      @jeninahuang2929 3 роки тому +5

      Sumina Studer Violinist Aaa me XD
      You are very inspiring, keep it up!

    • @dehanbadenhorst1398
      @dehanbadenhorst1398 3 роки тому +8

      My neck is too short to even use a chin rest 😂

    • @lindsaysreina6611
      @lindsaysreina6611 3 роки тому +1

      HEREE

    • @Octotype
      @Octotype 3 роки тому +6

      Yea I have a pretty long neck too, but I haven't really looked around for the best setup (chin & shoulder rest), and my posture suffers a bit from it (I lift my shoulder). A question, how do I know if I should prioritize my shoulder rest or my chin rest in order to fix the height issue my shoulders have been compensating for?

  • @brent3542
    @brent3542 3 роки тому +110

    as a physical therapy student, I agree!

    • @SuminaStuder1
      @SuminaStuder1  3 роки тому +58

      Phew! Passed the test 😅

    • @brent3542
      @brent3542 3 роки тому +8

      hahaha! great vid, Sumina!

    • @ladelcolectivo
      @ladelcolectivo 3 роки тому

      Scoliosis, lordosis, cifosis, being on a normal position is straight pain. I will end up looking like ida Haendel at 80 but I'm 42, and I don't even get closer to her playing!. Any suggestions?

  • @angels5449
    @angels5449 3 роки тому +162

    "Sometimes we practice 40 hrs a day" ah, yes, you got me there ;)

    • @angels5449
      @angels5449 3 роки тому +1

      @Alonzo Prez de Guzmán. it was bass not guitar lol

    • @streetjustice4287
      @streetjustice4287 3 роки тому +6

      "Ling ling can play paganini cap 5 with oonnneee hand, why you no ling ling yet?"

    • @Qo0_0
      @Qo0_0 3 роки тому

      Summon

  • @eechu2199
    @eechu2199 3 роки тому +33

    I can imagine so easily TwoSet blushing hearing Sumina making a reference to them

  • @luca-yf5qm
    @luca-yf5qm 3 роки тому +37

    „...because sometimes we practice 40 hours a day“ hahah love it 😂

  • @A-Minor-Music
    @A-Minor-Music 3 роки тому +20

    I'm glad you advocate for shoulder rests! Some folks are against them entirely, but I think it's a matter of personal choice/individual anatomy. I experimented for years & discovered mine was actually too high, a lower one was more comfortable. But without one I have too much tension in shoulder, neck & jaw.

  • @owdy3973
    @owdy3973 3 роки тому +18

    "If you feel pain of any sort it's your body's way of telling you that something is not quite right"
    My body when I play: *DIS AIN'T RIGHT*

  • @stidinadia1369
    @stidinadia1369 3 роки тому +259

    Sumina is ling ling! She studies 40 hours 👌

  • @MiserableLittleDoomGoblin
    @MiserableLittleDoomGoblin 3 роки тому +29

    This was very helpful. I'd love to see you do a follow-up video on breathing while playing. I have a tendency to hold my breath, and it's often hard to figure out how to match up inhaling/exhaling with things like Wohlfahrt's Etudes or Schradieck's left hand exercises. 🙂

  • @gadielburman2328
    @gadielburman2328 3 роки тому +12

    I really wanna see a Sumina Studer Violinist and TwoSet collab!!! @TwoSetViolin please make this happen!!!😁

  • @omniqwerty4175
    @omniqwerty4175 3 роки тому +14

    This is soo in time because my teacher is currently trying to fix my posture

  • @alirashidi9630
    @alirashidi9630 3 роки тому +80

    Why do I see a fraction of twoset
    ?community everywhere

    • @goolgmorelikesmoolge9038
      @goolgmorelikesmoolge9038 3 роки тому +21

      Because...we are everywhere...

    • @paulinekuzina7187
      @paulinekuzina7187 3 роки тому

      You bet!

    • @taisaokho2438
      @taisaokho2438 3 роки тому +5

      @@paulinekuzina7187 you brett..... I'll see myself to the door

    • @jub8891
      @jub8891 3 роки тому +5

      we're really just the same person with different accounts

    • @yes1635
      @yes1635 3 роки тому +1

      @@jub8891 yeah hi me

  • @manishsigdel824
    @manishsigdel824 3 роки тому +38

    She had me at 40 hours XD

  • @sunflowerlemon._
    @sunflowerlemon._ 3 роки тому +69

    Never touched a violin so why do I keep watching channels like hers and twoset :P

    • @mikevicsmff9946
      @mikevicsmff9946 3 роки тому +14

      Because music brings us together

    • @darkacademiadiaries
      @darkacademiadiaries 3 роки тому +18

      I think the universe is sending you signs that you have to start playing 😂

    • @sunflowerlemon._
      @sunflowerlemon._ 3 роки тому +6

      @@darkacademiadiaries I really want to, but I'm 19 and I feel like it's too late to start

    • @mikevicsmff9946
      @mikevicsmff9946 3 роки тому +13

      Aadil Jismy no, you’re never too late to start!

    • @sunflowerlemon._
      @sunflowerlemon._ 3 роки тому +4

      MikeVics MFF if I do start I’ll let you know how it goes! You guys are really nice

  • @SpringHuangMusic
    @SpringHuangMusic 3 роки тому +3

    So glad that you made this video! Thanks so much for those really helpful, realistic tips and information - I can't agree more! ❤️

  • @M.Smith1
    @M.Smith1 3 роки тому

    Thank you, Sumina Studer, for sharing your valuable knowledge of the violin! Your time is greatly appreciated!

  • @maheesurya5680
    @maheesurya5680 3 роки тому +7

    A much-needed video in these lockdown times! Really appreciate the effort sumina! huge fan

  • @lovebeast6653
    @lovebeast6653 Рік тому

    This is so important. Nobody ever talks of this in this very helpful way. Thank you.

  • @kauru3844
    @kauru3844 2 роки тому +6

    Thank you SO Much for introducing me to the extralong shoulder rest legs!! I didn't realize it but I guess I do have a long neck, and my shoulder rest has been uncomfortable since I started playing. I purchased these and now WOW, what a difference! So thanks for that. :-)

  • @JacquesLuu
    @JacquesLuu 3 роки тому +97

    2:19 she's revealing her true identity: LING LING

  • @theDUBMARK
    @theDUBMARK 3 роки тому

    So glad you came back to UA-cam. I am a cellist, and I am in total agreement with your points in this video!

  • @JuliaJacobsen
    @JuliaJacobsen 3 роки тому +4

    Love this video Sumina! I didn’t realize that my music stand is probably still too low. I’ve also found that some things I do with my body outside of violin can affect how much pain or discomfort I feel while I’m playing. For example, the way I sit in bed or large chairs can make playing scales painful so I need to be more mindful of my posture outside of violin.

  • @ponta1911
    @ponta1911 3 роки тому +3

    This video is really helpful!
    I had my back hurt and feel pain when I play violin. Probably It's because of unnatural posture.
    You look very relaxed and have beautiful posture when you play violin.

  • @sauerkirschkompott
    @sauerkirschkompott 3 роки тому

    Thank you, I actually never really thought about it but I am always adjusting my body to my surroundings... I am so excited to try out to improve my posture while playing and see the changes!

  • @maliakirk4877
    @maliakirk4877 3 роки тому +2

    Thank you so much for making this video Sumina!! I've been struggling with my posture for a long time, and I also have a very long neck. I'll try out some of your tips! :)

  • @adrianderroni4043
    @adrianderroni4043 3 роки тому

    Thanks this helped a lot as a Beginner violinist, adjusting the posture made the vibrato and the fingering soo much easier!

  • @ruchiraja993
    @ruchiraja993 3 роки тому +1

    I love your videos. Thank you for doing them. Your posture playing personality is amazing. 😗

  • @Mal-sg2du
    @Mal-sg2du 3 роки тому

    Thank you, Sumina! This is very helpful.

  • @adahkaplan8494
    @adahkaplan8494 3 роки тому

    I just learned that my scoliosis brace is what has been causing my out-of-brace posture (violin playing posture) to be tense...so I’ve been working a lot on my playing posture. This is super helpful - thank you!

  • @explorewithCK
    @explorewithCK 3 роки тому +2

    Super helpful learnwithme video Sumina. Thank you! 😊

  • @henrypark4356
    @henrypark4356 11 місяців тому +2

    Yesss!!!! I used to have problems with a straight spine when I was younger because I would sit while practicing, barely motivated to play. Nowadays, I stand when I play and make sure to keep my back straight - it's a little adjustment that made a huge difference.
    Btw I love the shoulder rest tips! Especially when using a rental from my conservatory, I would move my violin around (even when playing!) to try to find a comfortable position. 5:39 is JUST GOLD THANK YOU!!!!

  • @nicolasmarquesruiz7556
    @nicolasmarquesruiz7556 3 роки тому

    Loved the video. Thanks, Sumina!

  • @retster9871
    @retster9871 3 роки тому +2

    Thanks for the advice! A lot of these are even applicable to non-musicians.

  • @littlefishy5681
    @littlefishy5681 3 роки тому

    This video was really helpful! Thank you so much! And by the way, congratulations on 100K!!!!😃

  • @mariolastepaniuk4957
    @mariolastepaniuk4957 3 роки тому

    Very informative video, thank you Sumina! 👍🙌

  • @tomazviolin
    @tomazviolin 3 роки тому

    Hi. Very helpful tips about a "good use of the self". This has a lot to do with longevity in violin playing. Bravo!

  • @StarShippCaptain
    @StarShippCaptain 3 роки тому

    Excellent Instruction and Help! Well Done!

  • @gladeszanina467
    @gladeszanina467 2 роки тому

    Thanks, for these precious tips

  • @dreamcatcher9360
    @dreamcatcher9360 9 місяців тому

    Wow, you are just absolutely amazing at playing the violin!!

  • @ninabucknor322
    @ninabucknor322 3 роки тому +1

    One tip idea that seemed to have helped me along the right track: raising your chin rest with cork pieces

  • @doktorbeyza
    @doktorbeyza 3 роки тому +1

    I didn't realized how much it is important to feel relaxed while playing until I try to feel more relaxed and it worked. It also stopped my back hurting.

  • @elizabethcheng8212
    @elizabethcheng8212 3 роки тому

    This video was so helpful as I’ve been dealing with shoulder and tense muscle pains. I’ll be watching this video many times haha

  • @kathyknuteson2838
    @kathyknuteson2838 Рік тому

    What great tips! I wish i knew these back when I was a music major in the late 70s. I ended up dropping out but part of the reason was shoulder pain and that horrible violin "hickey" that was always hurting! Starting to play again and I'm using these tips including trying a new shoulder rest. Might get a new chin rest too.

  • @JosephMusgrove
    @JosephMusgrove 2 роки тому +2

    I’m 6’2 and have my stand adjusted to maximum height. But when watching your video, it hit me that I am still looking down. So will try the chair trick to increase the height.
    Proud flamingo neck member! I play without a shoulder rest but use a Kreddle height adjustable chin rest and love it!
    Some things I would add in regards to health.
    1. Recognize playing is a physical act. So stretch and loosen up your body before, during, and after practice.
    2. Get yourself a “good” gel pad to stand on when practicing.
    3. Take breaks.
    4. Exercise and stay in shape.

  • @beastviolin
    @beastviolin 3 роки тому

    Thank you so so much for the video! Postures are always overlooked

  • @thusharaaluthge6129
    @thusharaaluthge6129 Рік тому

    Wonderful teacher .....❤

  • @mxxlb8220
    @mxxlb8220 3 роки тому

    This is just what I needed! Thank u sm 💕

  • @shupesmerga4694
    @shupesmerga4694 3 роки тому +3

    I tense up and raise my left shoulder when approaching a challenging passage, as a solution, i remind myself on the paper to inhale/exhale a bar before the passage and if possible, to inhale/exhale on every 1st beat of the measure.

  • @fsuberca
    @fsuberca 3 роки тому

    Can I just thank you on the obvious (yet no too obvious for me) tip about setting music stand up to your eye level.... Omg what a difference, just finished practicing and was fun, painless and way more productive.
    Thanks sumina

  • @samuelbatista2004
    @samuelbatista2004 3 роки тому

    Thanks for the video helped me a lot.

  • @thusharaaluthge6129
    @thusharaaluthge6129 Рік тому

    Very helpful lessons ... thank you 🙏

  • @alexejvelitchkov1307
    @alexejvelitchkov1307 3 роки тому

    I love the little jumps she does while playing

  • @erzas556
    @erzas556 Рік тому

    Thank you so much!

  • @mohitparashar9122
    @mohitparashar9122 6 місяців тому

    This is helping me alot . Thank you so much ❤❤

  • @phemy5904
    @phemy5904 2 роки тому

    I have a really hard back pain while I play the violin so this helped me a lot!

  • @KP-jt9py
    @KP-jt9py 3 роки тому +1

    When I studied acting at the American Conservatory Theater in San Francisco, we studied Alexander Technique as well. Interesting to hear that this is also a practice that professional musicians (or “soon to be” professional musicians) use.

  • @aleraler2677
    @aleraler2677 3 роки тому

    Thanks for sharing with us
    U r the best
    👏

  • @pavlovajack3561
    @pavlovajack3561 3 роки тому

    Thanks for this!

  • @Zxouf873
    @Zxouf873 3 роки тому

    It's like you knew what i need then made this video thank you ☺️😊

  • @laikeatlim8261
    @laikeatlim8261 3 роки тому

    Violinist and teacher par excellence.

  • @rudylopez692
    @rudylopez692 2 роки тому

    Great job on the posture. Thank you for the information, especially since I am new and I didn’t know about the longer should rest legs. Maybe you can do a video on left hand positions. I always seem to get this wrong. My teacher says being tense is important also but I find it hard to mimic what she is teaching me if I am not here. I wondered about music stand height also, now I know. Your awesome.

  • @junacebedo888
    @junacebedo888 3 роки тому

    Thanks. This is very good even if I don't play the violin. I was in a choir and I know how important symmetry is on high your chin is depending on your vocal technique

  • @melizmatea
    @melizmatea 18 днів тому

    Thank you so much! I just started classes - I've had four!- and I have issues with my shoulder rest fitting (I ordered a different one so hopefully that will help) and the chin rest is a bit weird for me too. I noticed today I was practically contorting my head and neck and this video is eye-opening!! Thank you!!!

  • @viviennelin1901
    @viviennelin1901 3 роки тому

    thank u sumina!!! that was super helpful :))

  • @interculturalcommunication8481
    @interculturalcommunication8481 3 роки тому +2

    Hello Sumina, this is so helpful! I got my daughter a new chin rest which immediately helped correct her violin hold. Do you think you can be so kind to make a video on how to practice vibrato and switching positions? 😁🙏💖

  • @sophister
    @sophister 2 роки тому

    You are amazing! I actually had Alexandertechnique lessons in university, I live in Berlin and play the violin

  • @IsaacChoo88
    @IsaacChoo88 2 роки тому

    I has a flamingo-neck too, and I thought my neck and shoulder soreness were due to me not getting used to violin playing posture. Thanks for the long-leg shoulder rest tip

  • @jnjnknpn
    @jnjnknpn 3 роки тому

    The editing 🙌👏

  • @mariaviolin
    @mariaviolin Рік тому

    Thank youuu 😊💖 muy útil el vídeo

  •  3 роки тому

    Loved loved this video!! Greetings from Honduras :)

  • @valeryfoyniak4934
    @valeryfoyniak4934 3 роки тому

    Thanks!

  • @mtraube
    @mtraube 3 роки тому +7

    Dear Sumina, I have a question for you : when you were a kid, between 8 and 12, how often would you see your teacher every week? (Teacher asking here!)

  • @mahzadi3940
    @mahzadi3940 2 роки тому

    Thanks so good🙏🌹🌹

  • @Leviolin
    @Leviolin 3 роки тому

    You are so beautiful and good in violin! Thanks you for your advices! 🙏

  • @grapesofwrath361
    @grapesofwrath361 3 роки тому +1

    The kreddle chin rest can also be good for your posture because it is incredibly versatile and adjustable with every axis. And also check out the Dounis method.

  • @kerimmetin913
    @kerimmetin913 3 роки тому

    That video made me realise about my posture... I am always so tense I am thankful for this video
    Practice 40 hours a day :D

  • @user-vt5bb8xx4g
    @user-vt5bb8xx4g 3 роки тому

    Большое спасибо за видео !!!!!

  • @joaquimsantiagosantiago8191
    @joaquimsantiagosantiago8191 2 роки тому

    Muito obrigado por compartilhar conosco

  • @ab6ie
    @ab6ie 3 роки тому

    i participated in a couple classes on alexander technique during a music summer program!

  • @tobiaslagerberg8962
    @tobiaslagerberg8962 3 роки тому

    Good job!

  • @pedroreyes4670
    @pedroreyes4670 3 роки тому +1

    Positional pain was the reason I had to give up :(
    Had some injuries before starting, and it got really bad. Take care!

  • @Faithhg310
    @Faithhg310 4 місяці тому

    I think I will go back to using a shoulder rest. I too have a long neck and I find I am straining and hunching too much. Thank you for your tips!

  • @alexisbianco158
    @alexisbianco158 3 роки тому

    Very interesting your video. I don’t think I’ve a flamingo neck, but for certain I’m 78, and started on line with the violin.
    And there is so many things to think at the same time. Would you consider practical to use a support which hold the violin and is fit on the shoulder or back? If that so I don’t have to worry on holding and my left arm and hand, can be moved freely.
    There is not such a device in my country, but understand they have it in Europe.
    Thanks and congratulations

  • @HappyScalesforDuo
    @HappyScalesforDuo 3 роки тому

    Thank you for the great video. A question - how do you manage not to have chinrest mark under your chin?

  • @francescozingarello204
    @francescozingarello204 3 роки тому

    great video! :-) well done! Greetings from Zurich. I hope I can listen to a concert of yours here in Switzerland any soon! :D keep up the great videos.

  • @Patrick-cc3ub
    @Patrick-cc3ub 3 роки тому +6

    A little off topic, but I’m curious.
    Who is your favorite violinist for the Bach Chaccone? Personally mine is Heifetz.... he adds a certain kick to it while maintaining the emotion and sadness of the piece.

  • @peterjohnporrata4866
    @peterjohnporrata4866 Рік тому

    I just love your explanation and every subject you covered, keep it up, I am definitely one of your followers. Where do you teach?

  • @andyihli
    @andyihli 3 роки тому

    Thanks for the tips, Sumina Ling-Ling!!

  • @alexandremazarin_vlngtr
    @alexandremazarin_vlngtr 3 роки тому

    My favorite shoulder rest is... my own shoulders... my violin sound have changed and no more pain... as like you said... each one has a particularity.

  • @jessicawang6558
    @jessicawang6558 3 роки тому

    Thanks for your video. I’m a beginner violinist and I’ve been having intense shoulder/back pain when I’m playing the violin. I’m trying to work with my teacher to work on the pain : (

  • @jutrigueiro
    @jutrigueiro 3 роки тому

    Your instructions are easy to understand and you very beautiful :)

  • @cameronburnett9679
    @cameronburnett9679 3 роки тому +1

    I don't play the violin but I've noticed that people who are relaxed tend to rotate their arm from the center of the chest rather than from the shoulder. I learnt this in a particular martial art where every movement actually started by a very small rotation at this point, while the body remains completely relaxed and free of tension. It looks exactly the same as high level violin playing.
    The main point was to allow the spine to lengthen without doing so using tension. It's really difficult to have bad posture with an elongated spine. Like with the shoulders, if you hunch over you can curl your shoulders forward but try to do the same with an elongated spine. They just sit more or less in place. So you allow the spine to lengthen, which gives a structure for your body to relax around, and then just rotate from the center. Simple but not easy :).

  • @allenpungan2979
    @allenpungan2979 3 роки тому

    Thanks sumina

  • @themusiccovenant
    @themusiccovenant 3 роки тому

    Amazing

  • @traumwandler8891
    @traumwandler8891 3 роки тому

    I miss the mention of playing violin without a shoulder rest. Surpisingly this was the solution for me and it even fixed (by 2 days practising) the 30 year old permanent tension I got through violin playing (with shoulder rest) in childhood. I guess the 8 years playing during childhood made a bad muscle programming and as soon as I played the violin without shoulder rest the muscels got rid of the programming and could reset into healthy muscel tone.

  • @johndavesibayan7663
    @johndavesibayan7663 3 роки тому +6

    I made sure I just heard 40h!!! HAHAHA TwoSet!

  • @innah1420
    @innah1420 3 роки тому +4

    i just started learning to play violin and i find this video really helpful, thank you sumina! 💛

  • @pratikstudio
    @pratikstudio 3 роки тому

    🔥🎶 Youre Amazing 🎶🔥
    Thank you, Im a pianist, learning violin from you / youtube 😅

  • @cnboy14
    @cnboy14 3 роки тому

    Nice video some great advice, can you please talk about some exercises to to not hit other strings.

  • @michaelbonesmusic
    @michaelbonesmusic 4 місяці тому

    yes, relaxation is key and not just more practice but thinking about what can be improved and repeating difficult parts until there is no more tension in the body, hand, fingers etc
    great video, everyone is different and it isn't a big deal to get a different shoulder rest or chinrest. I personally prefer chinrests that cover the base of the tail-piece as sometimes without I can bend the tone with my chin by mistake! Be aware of your body and address any aches or pains as potential posture issues, the more relaxed the more easily the violin can vibrate - do not squeeze or tense as you can end up clamping or dampening your sound by mistake :)