@@brianosterman456 after the Witcher Netflix series and the saints row reboot it feels like writers are just being hired to insult old audiences. Personally Taush is the main reason I avoided the game. But I know they straight up abandoned Morigons plot with Kieran and the gray warden. And what happened to our disARMED inquisitor.
If I remember correctly, Angry Joe has always insisted on *bying* the games he reviews. And on rlelease. So he can get as close as possible to the experience of the average player. When he gets codes, he gifts them. Whether to his audience, or a reviewer friend (if it’s an early code). Point is: You don't hear about Angry Joe getting review codes because either the publisher knows it's pointless, and don't send one. Or he gets one he doesn't use, so it's irrelevant to the review ^^'
feels like Angry Joe has burned half the bridges in the industry, Sony, EA, Geoff, and Xbox have all clashed with him so I'm not surprised if he doesn't get copies.
I mean metaphor Alan wake 2 Space marine 2 and Astro bot where all 30 percent off on Amazon for Black Friday, that’s how I got metaphor and Alan wake 2 actually
tf did it shift?? Everyone was saying and predicting the same damn things before skill ups video went up, maybe some creators were just unsure if it's even ok to speak like he did because they're 😿 but that's expected at this point. There is no one that looks out for reviews from big/official outlets, maybe except for the DEVS, whitch is a problem in itself as they're all in the same circle jerk. Really the new thing he said was about the story and how he hated all of it.
But it was all bad, and they did try to cover it up. Luke, I know you need to be careful burning your industry contacts, but after everything is said and done now: I'm completely convinced they were hoping to selectively steer initial conversations using people who wouldn't really criticize the game, either because they're IGN and rely on EA advertising dollars to stay afloat, or content creator who would put on kid gloves either because of nostalgia or a desire to look at the game as a big picture. But the reality is, the game was bad. Not mediocre, not bland, BAD. This was Anthem quality: Robotic, first draft story, with placeholder characters who are there to be children Rook lectures to and does favors for... And gameplay that feels designed to be a game you play passively on a mobile phone during a lunch break or on the subway. Not something you engage with, something intending to waste your time. The whole game is empty filler. It's Oscar Meyer bologna on wonder bread.
People like you are what's wrong with the coverage side of games. You literally think anyone with a different opinion is being dishonest or trying to protect their career. The game is not objectively bad and the truth is EA being selective with codes actually had the opposite effect. The game is getting farmed by people like Asmon because hating on it gets clicks and people like you are eating it up to feel validated. As someone who's actually a giant Dragon Age fan the game is not great but it's fine. I understand people who love it and hate it but honestly alot of the hate is dishonest considering Inquisition had the same issues and more but got love because it was a game made for casuals and sold well. If it came out today it would get all the same hate and more that DAV got because today hate and love around games has nothing to do with the games and everything to do with a culture war
@@CC-of5xl I didn't accuse anyone of being dishonest, except the billion dollar corporation and the multi-million dollar media conglomerate who accepted their ad revenue. I took a joking jab at Luke's phrasing, but I said *I* was convinced, not that Luke should be. It's also kinda ironic you claim I'm at the root of some problem in gaming discourse, as you discredit my opinion by ascribing an ulterior motive to why I have it. I played the game: It is of poor quality, both subjectively and objectively. There are aspects I don't like emotionally, and aspects that are measurably worse than Inquisition and other modern ARPGs like FF16. The grifting argument doesn't work, because you can't grift an opinion into people when they can experience something independently: If the game is well crafted, it will win out no matter how many detractors, because people will experience it. If the game is junk, it will eventually lose, no matter how many shills, because people will experience it. All these corpos can really do is affect pre-orders and the first two weeks of the convo. Same goes with the appeals to Inquisition, I replayed that game over the summer in prep for Veilguard... It's a better game. Combat is much more varied and deeper, with a much more robust damage/vulnerability system. AI is better in Inquisition, both on the companion and enemy side, and the story was leaps and bounds better (especially if you include Trespasser). Outside of graphics, if Inquisition had just dropped, it would have been pretty well received. The only people who would have truly disliked it were the fans who want DA to go back to its CRPG roots, but they hated Inquisition when it came out too.
@@CC-of5xl 100%, the game currently sits mostly positve on steam with playstation also sitting at a 4/5, people like this game but certain demographics can't comprehend it. With how volatile these people are I'm not surprised studios end up hiding more, Indiana Jones is aparently woke because Gina is independant and has short hair, that video has 200k views. Having so much hate festering for so long can't be good for games or devs, it really is sad to see especially since when you look for the source of the information it amounts to "I heard it from a friend at sony." The loud minority of gamers say they don't want to be treated like they're dumb but alot of their actions say otherwise. 🤷
@dr_diddy the worst part is they could have constructive points if they didn't act like crazy people. Like Bioware 100% let their cultural and political beliefs negatively impact Dragon Age but they'll never see it that way if people are acting exactly like they bigots they say they are.
I never trust review codes reviews the same reason i dont trust movie criticts who get early screenings they will say what they havebto say to keep thier access
It sucks that DAV needs some constructive criticism but Bioware can justifiably throw out most of the hate they're getting because the actual criticism is mixed in with 90% blind garbage hate from people who either didn't play or went in with an opinion they were purely looking to validate. But on the flip side the people defending the game are also being overly defensive and are also not going to give constructive criticism. To them it's prefect and any hate is written off.
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Skill up is hardly why there was negative narrative. BioWare simply launched a really controversial game.
controversial is a nice way to phrase mediocre. The woke stuff really isn’t even in the top 10 of issues with the game
Wasn't comtroversial as much as it was mediocre for a Dragon Age game. Nothing controversial about it, just poor for a Dragon Age game
@@brianosterman456 after the Witcher Netflix series and the saints row reboot it feels like writers are just being hired to insult old audiences. Personally Taush is the main reason I avoided the game. But I know they straight up abandoned Morigons plot with Kieran and the gray warden. And what happened to our disARMED inquisitor.
If I remember correctly, Angry Joe has always insisted on *bying* the games he reviews. And on rlelease.
So he can get as close as possible to the experience of the average player.
When he gets codes, he gifts them. Whether to his audience, or a reviewer friend (if it’s an early code).
Point is:
You don't hear about Angry Joe getting review codes because either the publisher knows it's pointless, and don't send one.
Or he gets one he doesn't use, so it's irrelevant to the review ^^'
feels like Angry Joe has burned half the bridges in the industry, Sony, EA, Geoff, and Xbox have all clashed with him so I'm not surprised if he doesn't get copies.
Even now that he is not as loud as when he was younger.
yet they gave flintlock a 8 a game they got a free copy of.
Even though I do't agree with him I still think he is a great reviewer and enterteiner, I know that he believes what he says
Skill up sometimes does put out his reviews weeks or months later post-launch, which people still watch since they still want his opinion
FYI, Veilguard already has a pretty big sale now on Steam (35%)
Yeah, it's the holidays, but the game is still relatively new for such a big discount.
I mean metaphor Alan wake 2 Space marine 2 and Astro bot where all 30 percent off on Amazon for Black Friday, that’s how I got metaphor and Alan wake 2 actually
tf did it shift?? Everyone was saying and predicting the same damn things before skill ups video went up, maybe some creators were just unsure if it's even ok to speak like he did because they're 😿 but that's expected at this point. There is no one that looks out for reviews from big/official outlets, maybe except for the DEVS, whitch is a problem in itself as they're all in the same circle jerk.
Really the new thing he said was about the story and how he hated all of it.
But it was all bad, and they did try to cover it up.
Luke, I know you need to be careful burning your industry contacts, but after everything is said and done now: I'm completely convinced they were hoping to selectively steer initial conversations using people who wouldn't really criticize the game, either because they're IGN and rely on EA advertising dollars to stay afloat, or content creator who would put on kid gloves either because of nostalgia or a desire to look at the game as a big picture.
But the reality is, the game was bad. Not mediocre, not bland, BAD. This was Anthem quality: Robotic, first draft story, with placeholder characters who are there to be children Rook lectures to and does favors for... And gameplay that feels designed to be a game you play passively on a mobile phone during a lunch break or on the subway. Not something you engage with, something intending to waste your time.
The whole game is empty filler. It's Oscar Meyer bologna on wonder bread.
People like you are what's wrong with the coverage side of games. You literally think anyone with a different opinion is being dishonest or trying to protect their career. The game is not objectively bad and the truth is EA being selective with codes actually had the opposite effect. The game is getting farmed by people like Asmon because hating on it gets clicks and people like you are eating it up to feel validated. As someone who's actually a giant Dragon Age fan the game is not great but it's fine. I understand people who love it and hate it but honestly alot of the hate is dishonest considering Inquisition had the same issues and more but got love because it was a game made for casuals and sold well. If it came out today it would get all the same hate and more that DAV got because today hate and love around games has nothing to do with the games and everything to do with a culture war
@@CC-of5xl I didn't accuse anyone of being dishonest, except the billion dollar corporation and the multi-million dollar media conglomerate who accepted their ad revenue. I took a joking jab at Luke's phrasing, but I said *I* was convinced, not that Luke should be.
It's also kinda ironic you claim I'm at the root of some problem in gaming discourse, as you discredit my opinion by ascribing an ulterior motive to why I have it. I played the game: It is of poor quality, both subjectively and objectively. There are aspects I don't like emotionally, and aspects that are measurably worse than Inquisition and other modern ARPGs like FF16.
The grifting argument doesn't work, because you can't grift an opinion into people when they can experience something independently: If the game is well crafted, it will win out no matter how many detractors, because people will experience it. If the game is junk, it will eventually lose, no matter how many shills, because people will experience it. All these corpos can really do is affect pre-orders and the first two weeks of the convo.
Same goes with the appeals to Inquisition, I replayed that game over the summer in prep for Veilguard... It's a better game. Combat is much more varied and deeper, with a much more robust damage/vulnerability system. AI is better in Inquisition, both on the companion and enemy side, and the story was leaps and bounds better (especially if you include Trespasser).
Outside of graphics, if Inquisition had just dropped, it would have been pretty well received. The only people who would have truly disliked it were the fans who want DA to go back to its CRPG roots, but they hated Inquisition when it came out too.
@@CC-of5xl 100%, the game currently sits mostly positve on steam with playstation also sitting at a 4/5, people like this game but certain demographics can't comprehend it.
With how volatile these people are I'm not surprised studios end up hiding more, Indiana Jones is aparently woke because Gina is independant and has short hair, that video has 200k views.
Having so much hate festering for so long can't be good for games or devs, it really is sad to see especially since when you look for the source of the information it amounts to "I heard it from a friend at sony."
The loud minority of gamers say they don't want to be treated like they're dumb but alot of their actions say otherwise. 🤷
@dr_diddy the worst part is they could have constructive points if they didn't act like crazy people. Like Bioware 100% let their cultural and political beliefs negatively impact Dragon Age but they'll never see it that way if people are acting exactly like they bigots they say they are.
It's ok dude, we know You're defending them because you want to be invited again. Its so transparent, I'm not even mad.
I never trust review codes reviews the same reason i dont trust movie criticts who get early screenings they will say what they havebto say to keep thier access
It sucks that DAV needs some constructive criticism but Bioware can justifiably throw out most of the hate they're getting because the actual criticism is mixed in with 90% blind garbage hate from people who either didn't play or went in with an opinion they were purely looking to validate. But on the flip side the people defending the game are also being overly defensive and are also not going to give constructive criticism. To them it's prefect and any hate is written off.