How to fix a rusty corner bead | Rusty angle bead
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- Опубліковано 10 гру 2016
- A rusty corner bead or a rusty angle bead can be a real problem to fix and must be done correctly because if you try to paint or paper over it without fixing the rusty bead first the rust will eventually come through the paint or paper. This video shows how to remove the plaster for the affected area, clean the bead and apply some rust convertor before filling the area and painting it using a stain blocking primer. Once the primer has dried you can paint the damage with the paint of your choice, or even wallpaper over it.
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Proper job properly explained. Pleasure to watch.
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You sir are a pleasure to watch. Keep up the great work.
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Stunning repair and a nice straightforward video to watch. Cheers.
I’m glad you found the video useful
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Well done Chez; another quality video showing how to do a job properly. What a tremendous difference.
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I'm glad I always learn something new watching these videos. Very useful videos :)
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another great diy video..well explained and easy to follow. Great job!
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Always wondered what the solution was to this problem - easy fix, great vid as always😁
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you are always such a help to me. You are a STAR!! many thanks
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So many people would just paper over that or paint it not here though! Nice work and explanation.
Absolutely.
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good clear and concise instructional common sense video very helpful
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Another great video. I learned a cool tip.
I must say I do admire you putting up these videos. You must get a lot of grief from those "hater" type people.
I assumed you've developed a thick skin over the years :)
Keep them coming!
Thanks Graham, I do get some grief but I tend to block the haters as soon as they start posting comments that you just know are going to lead to trouble ;-)
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Really clear and helpful, many thanks
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thanks, very helpful to a project of mine here in chicago!
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Great video - again!
Seems daft but it had never occurred to me just to treat the rusted section instead of ripping out and replacing the head.
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Thank you - I found this really useful.
Glad it was helpful!
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Good job. Thanks for the video.
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What situations would you suggest that you just replace the entire cornerbead instead? And more specifically I'd ask would you recommend removal for a bathroom floor to ceiling shower wall cornerbead and which the entire bottom of the drywall about 3" high all the way across and again about a foot up another area roughly 2x4 are both water damage and will also need to be replaced. (Probably just going to replace entire drywall with newer mold resistant versions and to check fully the framing for any real problems before worrying about cosmetics) thanks for the video and keep them coming. 👍
Nice tidy job and recognised Bolton road Darwen at the end!
Thanks, this was in my girlfriends mum's flat (Mayfield flats on Bolton road). I did quite a lot of work in that flat, but unfortunately she got fed up with the Darwen weather and moved back down south after about a year!
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very helpful, thanks.
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much better in tidy paint than damp creeping under wallpaper i think, looks so much better
Absolutely.
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Another neat job.....🙋
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I've used this product for some of my walls on my bungalow as some walls had a few problems. Left it dry for a few days and painted on top and never had any issues
The Coverstain is great, Thanks for the comment ;-)
Great step by step instruction video! Top job as usual, may I ask you a question? I have that same purdy scraper, it's fantastic, but is there anyway of "sharpening" the edge of it? I've ran it over sandpaper a few times but not sure if I should use an oil stone. I would greatly appreciate your advice!
An oil stone would probably be the best option to resharpen it.
I have badly damaged mine as I was trying to cut a wall plug that was sticking out, so I hit it with my hammer but there was a sheared off screw in the plug!
I'll have to grind mine back and resharpen it when I get time.
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Ace job UH. For the very first time I'm the first to watch a freshly uploaded video 😁
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Pod Pub I second that and watched every second of it. Thank you Ultimate Handyman. Even if it's not a current project that I'm working on, I always find your videos useful and very versatile.
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great video thanks
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@@ultimatehandyman no problem. The bin is a nice product and easy to use. I have put one coat on does it need more than one? Screwfix were £10 cheaper than my local decorating centre for a litre.
On the point of using Zinsser cover stain, I used that many years ago in a house where the ceilings were covered in nicotine staining. Ended up just using standard oil based paint in the end as the Zinsser was not covering enough for the money and it worked just as well. Use oil based on damp patches too with great results. Can even use an old paint where the pigment has separated. Suppose one advantage to Zinsser is the quick drying time.
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Great video, thanks I have this problem too and know how to tackle it, didn’t know you could get Zinnser products in the UK,
Thanks, Zinsser products are widely available in the UK.
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Nice fix buddy
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***** Your welcome mate :)
The other option is to paint the room brown.
LOL
Another great, clear and informative video. Which rust converter did you use?
It was some that I have had for over a decade, I think it was Loctite rust remedy.
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Good job, as usual. Since we don't see these much in Canada, I'm wondering what the cause of the rust was. Just moist air coming in from an open window over time?
It could have been caused by condensation, or perhaps a leak in the flat above.
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Good informative, video - thanks.
As you use an oil-based primer, is it essential to have the same type paint for top coats, or can emulsion be used?
Thanks, you can use emulsion over the top of Coverstain. I think I used Perma- white and eggshell mainly in this flat but have painted over Coverstain in the past with emulsion, but I always feather it out when applying it.
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Thank you : )
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Brilliant Vids mate, I do a bit of everything myself and your page is normally my first port of call when I want to double check something or I can't work it out for myself! Were you a tradesman originally and then decided to branch out?
Keep up the good work!
Thanks Craig, No I have never been a tradesman but I started D.I.Y before I was ten years old and have renovated several properties. I'm a maintenance engineer by trade in a local chemical plant.
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Excellent job! What is the filler you used? It is not joint compound, correct?
Thanks, I use Gyproc easifill - ua-cam.com/video/iM_FD403--k/v-deo.html
It is a jointing compound but works great as a filler as it is really easy to sand.
I like the result, however, I am curious, Where did the moisture come from? If the source isn't fixed, this is like mudding a kick panel on a pickup truck, it comes back.
you haven't got a roof leak by any chance I can't see why the metal would rust unless moisture has gotten in some how. great video chez
This was the girlfriends mum's flat, there is another flat above so perhaps they had a leak previously but I'm not really sure of the exact cause of the damage.
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Hi, I have done that in the past and also just removed the old beading and replaced with new. However when using rust converter you should wear protective glasses as if you do get splashed with this stuff it is really bad.
Thanks for the comment John, I'll remember to wear them next time.
How long does rust converters work for ? Does coverstain prevent rust coming back?
The rust convertor turns the rust into a sound surface that can be over painted. The Coverstain should prevent it bleeding through (although that is unlikely) and leaves a good surface to paint over. Coverstain is a brilliant product as it dries so quickly.
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Keep the vids coming, seems like you dont make as many these days.
Thanks, I'm really struggling for time at the moment as I have been working on site for the last 6 months and I'm booked on site until at least September so I'm really struggling to find time to make videos.
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Gyprock easy fill 20 seems to be a UK specific product. An American equivalent that you may know of? Would just any all purpose compound be okay?
I'm not sure, sorry.
Toupret has a good reputation over here, but not sure if that is available in the States.
Any decent quality filler should work, I only use Easi-fill because it is really easy to sand afterwards
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Great Video. Is the Cover Stain better than Zinsser BIN or Zinsser 123 for this purpose?
Zinsser 123 should be fine and is easier to cover with water based paint 👍
one thing comes to mind and that is when you are using the sanding block will it not cause some damage to the rust converter coating already applied to the rusty beading, just an observation to a very good video.
Hi Joe,
I guess it would be possible to sand some of the rust convertor off, but it is being primed with Zinsser Coverstain which should prevent any air/moisture getting to the beading.
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Thanks so much for this video! Is the stain block primer is oil-based am i correct in assuming i cannot paint over it with water-based emulsion? - i have already bought the paint (water-based) for my room, is there a work-around for this?
Also, just a suggestion, but It would be really useful to list the brands/names of the supplies you used in the description 👍
Just copied this from the Zinsser website-
“An all-purpose solvent-based, stain-killing, primer-sealer. Ideal for interior and exterior applications. Recoat in only two hours. May be used under any solvent-based or water-based topcoat” 👍
@@ultimatehandyman amazing, thank you so much! ^_^
Hi mate, what product you used on top of rust to avoid the stain coming back?
I used a rust inhibitor; it chemically converts the rust. I have used Hammerite Kurust a lot recently.
Then I used Zinsser coverstain, then applied the top coat over that 👍
I've done this but have painted the beading after applying rust eater then I fill. I'm presuming that method is fine too ?
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Which rust converter do you think is best Chez?
This was some that I have had in my garage since owning my Ford Cortina, so it is about 25 years old LOL.
I'm pretty sure it was Loctite rust converter, it has always worked well for me ;-)
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zinsser products are great.I definately would have applied a coat directly to the beading itself if was nt replacing it to prevent any possible bleeding.
It should be fine once the rust reformer has been used ;-)
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Why did it rust in the first place? Condensation problem or damp cold walls ?
had this happen in my house because when the plastering was done the angle bead was scraped and it took off the galvanised coating, i replaced the bead that couldnt be repaired with aluminium beading :)
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What kind/brand of rust converter did you use?
I think I used Loctite 7503
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Could I pull the bead out and apply a new one? Thank you for the video. :)
You could, but it might be a lot more work.
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Hello. Any chance of listing products used please. Can the same technique and materials apply to external render of an arch doorway?
I used Rust convertor, example here- fave.co/3O0zraw
You’ll need an external grade filler for outside use- fave.co/3aw9mS3
Then a decent primer- Zinsser coverstain- fave.co/3Nu7ZC4
Then two coats of exterior paint
P.S it will be difficult to make the filler look like render, depending on the finish.
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Yes yes yes you legend
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@@ultimatehandyman no worries you just saved me a heap of time and money so thank you.
Hi good info. But this will only last a short time. The rust will soon be back. You could not paint the back of the bead with the anti rust. Only effective way is to rip out and use a new bead. Which is what I’ve just done.
Many thanks for this, I was fearing I would have to cut out a bead by my front door
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Is there perhaps a danger of the rust coming back on the point of that corner where you sanded the filler?
It shouldn't do. This was done last year and the flat still looks pristine.
The coverstain should cover the metal and prevent the atmosphere from rusting the bead again.
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I did this unfortunately it came back within a few months..used this exact zinsser product. High moisture room(bathroom)
There's a new product coming out soon that tackles this specific problem. It's a bead that goes straight over the existing bead, once it's filled up on either side you won't see the rust again. Turns out to be a very easy job and lasts. I think it's called a rust easy bead. From what I hear it's not on the market for a few months though.
I'm really interested to see that after seven years has it kept the rust at bay?
I’m not sure, I’m afraid the girlfriends mother moved out of that flat a few years ago 👍
Great video,
What did you use on the bead after using the wire brush?
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Stay safe
I used a rust converter, Loctite make one, there is also a product called Kurust
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Trying this now. We had damp patches showing through plaster near an edge of a wall, we dug into it and the corner braces have rusted like this. Will follow the same procedure with the same materials. Thanks!
Good luck with it.
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I have been wallpapering for the last 40 years nothing I can see that would be to difficult, for a professional , or even an good DIYer
My girlfriend was going to do the papering as this is her mum's flat. She can do a flat wall but nothing too difficult LOL
My grandad taught me how to wall paper many years ago. I think it could be one of those dying skills you hear about. Us East Lancashire lot have to stick together.
What did you paint the rust bead with , please. I'm the fixer in our home, and I'm not as clued in as the other viewers
I used a rust converter, it neutralises the rust and leaves a surface that you can paint. They sell it on ebay, but you can often get small bottles of it in car accessory shops etc.
fave.co/358mmos
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Nice tutorial,,, the person said it was to difficult to paper 😅
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We were always taught to also apply a coat of oil based paint to the bead before any water based filler is applied
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I don’t get it, the plasterer installs an inferior bead which will definitely rust, destroy the plaster when it expands. This seems like a work guarantee scheme, so they get more work when it goes wrong. Why don’t they use stainless, so simple.🙄🤦♂️🤣♥️
A lot of plasterers use plastic beading now, to avoid problems.
Galvanised beading is ok, providing it does not get scratched during installation etc.
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Found difficult to understand