F-89 Scorpion - Nuclear Rocket Launcher

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  • Опубліковано 20 вер 2024
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    The F-89 Scorpion was the first of its kind. It was designed as an all-weather interceptor, with the objective of shooting down Soviet nuclear bombers before they could reach the United States. After many years of false starts, crashes, and redesigns, it ultimately found its true purpose - becoming the first aircraft armed with an air-to-air nuclear missile. This weapon would leave no doubt if it came to bringing down a fleet of Soviet bombers.
    The Scorpion was paired with the Genie, considered the most powerful interceptor missile ever deployed by the U.S Air Force. It was built to be so effective in destroying enemy bombers, that no countermeasure could work against it. This extraordinary weapon was only launched once during a nuclear test in U.S territory, over the heads of six men that lived to tell the story…
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  • @SparkBerry
    @SparkBerry 4 роки тому +522

    F-4: " Did you ever shoot a shot in anger?"
    F-89: " Did you ever shoot off a nuke for shits and giggles?" -drops mic

    • @a1marine105
      @a1marine105 3 роки тому +12

      Strato fortress: both of y'all are weak and pathetic I drop nukes cause I rule the world

    • @jacobmccandles1767
      @jacobmccandles1767 3 роки тому +1

      Spark, that comment kicks ass!

    • @TheCrowOfJudgement
      @TheCrowOfJudgement 3 роки тому

      Why is that funny

    • @TheCrowOfJudgement
      @TheCrowOfJudgement 3 роки тому +5

      B 52: did you ever drop 14 nukes just because of fatigue?

    • @totallynate1408
      @totallynate1408 3 роки тому +3

      b 29: “i dropped the first atomic bomb”

  • @SSmith-fm9kg
    @SSmith-fm9kg 4 роки тому +461

    As a kid, I built plastic model airplane kits in the late 50's early 60's. Always thought the F-89 was such a beautiful plane.

  • @omnipotentdwarf571
    @omnipotentdwarf571 4 роки тому +438

    I need 5 volunteers, you, you, you, you, you. Thank you for volunteering.

  • @FRDOMFGTHR
    @FRDOMFGTHR 4 роки тому +628

    Don’t give gaijin any ideas it’s already a premium.

    • @Spitflyer
      @Spitflyer 4 роки тому +73

      ngl I reckon an F-89 with AIM-4s or the conventional AAM might be interesting

    • @aleidvandijk8838
      @aleidvandijk8838 4 роки тому +24

      In todays update : Atomic Thunder, we showcase our newest addon to the game, an atomic air to air missile on the F89 destructor jet.

    • @Coco757..
      @Coco757.. 4 роки тому +5

      Spit_flyer love ur vids

    • @nicness6828
      @nicness6828 4 роки тому +7

      Spit_flyer YO SPIT I DIDNT EXPECT YOU

    • @huyra8019
      @huyra8019 4 роки тому +1

      @@Spitflyer no

  • @vinceely2906
    @vinceely2906 4 роки тому +175

    Wasn't it a pair of F-89's that once shot 200-odd rockets at a Hellcat drone and missed? No wonder they ended up going nuclear - It was the only way they couldn't miss!

    • @Otokichi786
      @Otokichi786 4 роки тому +19

      The Mighty Mouse missiles caused considerable property damage and MISSED the target: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Palmdale

    • @johnnystock7294
      @johnnystock7294 4 роки тому +15

      Unguided dummy missile launchers what do you expect. That and they’re 30 feet away from the pilot cabin so aiming is next to impossible

    • @snaicli
      @snaicli 4 роки тому +4

      I know you're joking but the type of aircraft has nothing to say when discussing air-to-air capabilities

    • @Hexigonic
      @Hexigonic 3 роки тому

      @@snaicli yes, strap missile to a a B29, it would 100% beat an F14

    • @snaicli
      @snaicli 3 роки тому +3

      ​@@Hexigonic Well depends on the model of F14 and what type of missile system you strap on the B29. Given the right circumstances, anything is possible.

  • @pilgrimm23
    @pilgrimm23 4 роки тому +139

    That crash in the school yard: one of the students who survived but witnessed it was: Richard Steven Valenzuela aka Richie Valens... who coincidetnally died of a plane crash later.

    • @Guy_Man
      @Guy_Man 4 роки тому +1

      Epic?

    • @ribbitgoesthedoglastnamehe4681
      @ribbitgoesthedoglastnamehe4681 3 роки тому

      @Richard Hopkins "Based on Real Events." 😁

    • @ribbitgoesthedoglastnamehe4681
      @ribbitgoesthedoglastnamehe4681 3 роки тому

      @Richard Hopkins Yeah, but there are movies and there are movies you know? Some try to be accurate and respect the history as it happened. Or bring all sides into consideration, like some warmovies. There are good guys and bad guys on all sides.
      And then theres "based on true events" which means some of it happened, according to some people, and the rest is made up and sold as "real".
      Not eveything is equally bad, there are good guys and bad guys there too.

    • @ribbitgoesthedoglastnamehe4681
      @ribbitgoesthedoglastnamehe4681 3 роки тому

      @Richard Hopkins True, but that doesnt make it untruthful either. You can spice up a story without changing the meaningful parts. And there are people who do the effort and make it interesting without making it false, and there are those who make the effort to make it false because theres more money in it.

    • @ribbitgoesthedoglastnamehe4681
      @ribbitgoesthedoglastnamehe4681 3 роки тому

      @Richard Hopkins I never claimed you did. What Im saying is that there are differences. And as with all such things, if we dont state the nature of the difference, we are helping those who rely on people not realising there IS a difference.
      And from your messaging I read you dont like movies that distort real events, yet you seem to support the idea that there actually would not be a choice, thereby supporting those who dont care.
      I dont know. Just trying to find a common ground but you seem to be very vague about everything, even stating what you dont say but then not saying what you DO say. So Im really just guessing here. So, you know, feel free to have an opinion.

  • @711jastin
    @711jastin 4 роки тому +175

    small brain: anti-air machine guns
    normal brain: fighters
    big brain: flak
    transcendence: NUCLEAR ANTI-AIR MISSILES

    • @guy1021
      @guy1021 4 роки тому +1

      *Nuclear air-air missiles

    • @lefishe2485
      @lefishe2485 3 роки тому

      aka N.A.A.M

    • @novanoir8309
      @novanoir8309 3 роки тому +5

      Some genius : "Hey! Forget the Air to Air Missiles! We have nuke!"
      Pentagon : "Hell yea- wait, no!"

    • @randomt-9034
      @randomt-9034 3 роки тому +3

      Why use heat seeking missile when you can irradiate pilots and evaporate their fighters along with their pilots to atoms.

    • @novanoir8309
      @novanoir8309 3 роки тому +2

      @@randomt-9034 why would you have heat seeking missile. When your missile carry a miniature sun

  • @fleebee3639
    @fleebee3639 4 роки тому +6

    My dad was a nuclear weapons technician in the Air Force. Although when he entered the Air Force from 1951 until 1960 he had worked exclusively on nuclear bombs. After he was sent to missle school in 1960 He worked mostly on nuclear missiles. He was with Air Defense Command twice. Once at Grand Forks AFB, North Dakota, in the early sixties during the Cuban missile crisis and again with the 48th Fighter Interceptor Squadron at Langley AFB, Virginia, in the early seventies. While he was with ADC he worked on and supervised crews working on, loading and unloading the Genie missiles on the F-89, F-101, F-102 and F-106.

  • @martialme84
    @martialme84 4 роки тому +262

    This is one of them "why women live longer than men" videos again, isn´t it?

  • @csr2037
    @csr2037 4 роки тому +151

    "Codenamed Ding-Dong.."

    • @cybrgames3537
      @cybrgames3537 4 роки тому +12

      They should’ve codenamed it: “Knock Knock”

    • @chen_plays4173
      @chen_plays4173 4 роки тому

      *wheeze*

    • @epeli0035
      @epeli0035 3 роки тому +3

      @@cybrgames3537 And another project ”who’s there”

    • @moosey2842
      @moosey2842 3 роки тому

      @@epeli0035 That's what we should call a war 🤣

    • @epeli0035
      @epeli0035 3 роки тому

      @@moosey2842 lmao

  • @joerivers1768
    @joerivers1768 4 роки тому +14

    Thank you for this episode about the F-89. My Dad flew them as an R/O for 6 years out of Elmendorf (Anchorage) Alaska, Selfridge AFB Michigan and Moody AFB Georgia in the 1950’s. Truly, a beautiful fighter of the early Cold War.

    • @MrPicaso55
      @MrPicaso55 2 роки тому +1

      Wow, I looked this video up because my grandfather did the same thing at Elmendorf. He described his time there as extremely boring except for when he got to fly the F-89.

  • @Ammo08
    @Ammo08 3 роки тому +6

    My knot tying skills in the Boy Scouts came in useful when I trained to maintain the Genie..the fins were held in place by four cords tied with a bowline knot, the rocket engine's ignition would melt the cord and the fins would pop out...very high tech.

  • @LoneWolf-kz5bo
    @LoneWolf-kz5bo 3 роки тому +140

    “They all were diagnosed with cancer at some point in their lives”
    *previously seen smoking*

    • @lolvivo8783
      @lolvivo8783 3 роки тому +5

      Cigar @ 9:47

    • @anydaynow01
      @anydaynow01 3 роки тому +13

      Yep, I'm pretty sure they caught more radiation from standing in the sun waiting for it to go off than the tiny acute dose from that firecracker burst from miles way!

    • @clearcreek69
      @clearcreek69 3 роки тому +2

      There's always lead poisoning

    • @novanoir8309
      @novanoir8309 3 роки тому +3

      Doctor : "It must be the cigars!!"

    • @randompheidoleminor3011
      @randompheidoleminor3011 3 роки тому

      Wasn't consuming radioactive substances a fad back in that era

  • @user-kv5lq9xm8c
    @user-kv5lq9xm8c 4 роки тому +173

    The Cold War was a great time to be an American defense engineer

    • @michaelcarney6280
      @michaelcarney6280 4 роки тому +6

      Same with the UK aero industry during the coldwar I think then it died

    • @FrostySire
      @FrostySire 4 роки тому +2

      CR the F-22 won’t be for 30 more years. Maybe 20 years at most

    • @michaelcarney6280
      @michaelcarney6280 4 роки тому +2

      @CR the F-35 that Yakolev engineers helped develop and they tried to keep it a secret.

    • @quisqueyanguy120
      @quisqueyanguy120 4 роки тому +2

      @CR The development of the F-22 started in the late cold war (the 80s)

    • @hotcoals2291
      @hotcoals2291 4 роки тому +3

      Michael Carney who cares? Russia still lacks a mass-produced fifth gen aircraft, while we scalped their engineers and developed a capable weapons platform.

  • @handlebarfox2366
    @handlebarfox2366 4 роки тому +26

    "the weapon, code-named Ding-Dong"
    argh, now I'm craving dingdongs.

    • @handlebarfox2366
      @handlebarfox2366 3 роки тому

      @Kuro-aka-gunship good point. here, let's say it with a picture worth a thousand words... carlsbadcravings.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/Ding-Dong-Cupcakes-8.jpg

  • @lex1945
    @lex1945 4 роки тому +68

    Air-to-air nuclear rockets..Seems some weapons designer wanted to go all out..

    • @lex1945
      @lex1945 4 роки тому +1

      @Jeffro 2000 LMFAO! Good one!!

    • @Hex-Mas
      @Hex-Mas 4 роки тому +1

      Hell is a concept.

    • @icollectstories5702
      @icollectstories5702 4 роки тому +3

      If you think of nukes as large, non-poisonous explosions, you can think of many potential uses.

    • @lex1945
      @lex1945 4 роки тому

      @ss hahaha! great one!

    • @icollectstories5702
      @icollectstories5702 4 роки тому

      @ss Feynman said they got a candy bar for each idea patented, so it sounded like a contest at Los Alamos for who could come up with the most "atomic "s. Out of this came the nuclear submarine and a few years of research into an atomic plane.

  • @Buzzramjet
    @Buzzramjet 3 роки тому +1

    My father flew F 89's when we were stationed at LADD AFB in Alaska, He had so many pics of their squadron intercepting Russian planes as they were the farthest north base and were ALWAYS on Alert. They slept next to their F 89s all the time..
    I remember at one open house at the bass, my dad was showing us the jet he flew when he was on duty and where he slept along with his flight crew when the alert went off of an incursion by Soviet aircraft and the started with the airhorns telling every to get off the tarmac immediately as my dad sprinted for his jet and as we watched from beyond the fences we saw a dozen F 89's launched within 7 minutes at two at at time.
    I was always wondering why mom was in tears until I grew up and realized my dad had no hesitation about heading into harms way. I remember him giving mom a quick hug and kiss telling her he loved her and us and 5 minutes later we watched as his 89 was lifting off and it stuck me he might never come back and why she was in tears. I can still see him running back to his jet, putting his helmet on as his crew chief pulled the ladder away and the jet was already fired up and his jet pulling out of the hanger with the canopy coming down and no slow move to the runway, they were hauling ass and as soon as they hit the end of the runway were full speed and in the air. It was the first time I saw him do that without any hesitation and as all the other times it was the Soviets testing response time and amount of jets showing up.
    He told us when we were older that sort of thing happened at least once a week. BUT everytime you never knew if they were going to push it finally. His favorite planes when he was in Korea were the P 51 and the F 86 and then his flight log showed him fliying about 40 different plane from the T6 trainer all the way to his last jet the F 105 which he said was not a great jet but his favorite of all was the F4 but he was transfered to the 105 as he wanted to be in the F4 wing.
    But he said he had a soft spot for 89 that for all it's clunky look was a fast jet and not one to be trifled with.

  • @robertschumann7737
    @robertschumann7737 4 роки тому +2

    The Scorpion plane crash briefly mentioned at the beginning of the video is the one that happened over Ritchie Valens’ school that killed his friend and gave him nightmares. It was portrayed in the movie La Bamba but although it looks like he was there when it happened in the movie, he had actually stayed home that day for his grandpa’s funeral. 3 kids were killed and around 75 were injured. Even though he wasn’t there from that day on he believed he would die from a plane crash. Flash forward almost exactly 2 years and we had the day that music died. If you don’t know much about Ritchie Valens I would suggest looking him up. At only 17 years old he was an enormously talented musician having 2 hit records (Donna and La Bamba were on the same record and went gold), had a part in a major movie, played American Bandstand twice, was booked for the yearly New Year’s Eve party in New York City, and was a co-headliner (he closed the first act and Buddy Holly closed the second) of an all-star tour. Most musicians can’t say they have done that in their entire career yet Valens did all of that in 6 months. He was signed in late July 1958 and died Feb 3rd 1959. If “ooh my head” is any indication of the direction he was taking his music he would have been in his musical prime and challenging the Beatles for the top spot on the charts through the 60’s. Most give that acknowledgment to Buddy Holly but I think Buddy was burning out already and experimenting with the blues. Which would have taken him far from the 60’s radio friendly pop scene. Sorry to go so off topic and in-depth on Valens. I will blame it on the quarantine. I have been out of work and bored for too long now.

    • @MarcStjames-rq1dm
      @MarcStjames-rq1dm 3 роки тому

      fun to read no need to apologize but i dig it....freakin covid, man driving me crazy anyway cheers gotta go play some :La Bamba!

  • @VNV67
    @VNV67 4 роки тому +22

    I remember seeing this F-89 when I was a kid. The fuel tanks on the wing tips was a dead giveaway. I always thought it was a nifty looking plane. This was back in 1958-59 when I saw it.

    • @VisibilityFoggy
      @VisibilityFoggy 4 роки тому

      Don't mix it up with a Super Tweet. ;)

    • @doctorTF_2
      @doctorTF_2 3 роки тому

      The fuel tanks on the wing tips were and is the most stupidest idea in entire aeronautics. It's just completely wrong and looks hella stupid

  • @1337fraggzb00N
    @1337fraggzb00N 3 роки тому +27

    General:"Thank you volunteers!"
    Volunteers":Why do you need humans for that?"
    General:"Because the GoPro is not invented yet."
    Volunteers:"What the hell is a GoPro?"
    General:"Exactly!"

  • @firewaterforgeofarizona4304
    @firewaterforgeofarizona4304 4 роки тому +52

    Just imagine, a AF cameraman of Japanese decent not wanting to be underneath a nuclear test. What was his problem?

    • @icollectstories5702
      @icollectstories5702 4 роки тому +5

      Do photographers of non-Japanese descent normally jump for such duty?

    • @Justanotherconsumer
      @Justanotherconsumer 4 роки тому +1

      dwiggins01 not so much a grudge, but the Japanese were... not kind to people affected by the bombs.
      Hibakusha is the term if you want to look it up.

    • @icollectstories5702
      @icollectstories5702 4 роки тому +2

      According on-line sources (including video interviews) George Yoshitake was born in Los Angeles and spent the war in the Rohwer AR internment camp. He is not listed as a veteran, but did work as a civilian contractor at several bases. This gig came to him via a friend in the military who told him to get on a plane and bring his equipment. In his lifetime of filming nuclear bomb tests, he thought H-bombs were more impressive. We are not nearly as nonchalant about nuclear explosions as they used to be.

    • @ribbitgoesthedoglastnamehe4681
      @ribbitgoesthedoglastnamehe4681 4 роки тому

      @dwiggins01 Well, it depends. Sometimes volunteering means extra work. That should be ok. You are there to work and have a career, and usually cant go home for the night anyway, so it should just be another chance to distinguish.
      Other times, your body might be used for testing something radioactive, which every sensible person should say no to.
      Sometimes it might be a classic storming the fort. Instant promotion if you survive. That needs thinking. A lot.
      But the point is more about giving assignments than receiving.
      Sometimes volunteering can be interesting, or even fun. But if people learn that its always something bad, you cant blame them for being smart, you have to blame the people who offer only jobs that are crappy or dangerous.

    • @hoghogwild
      @hoghogwild 4 роки тому +3

      @@Justanotherconsumer Survivors of BOTH the Hiroshima AND Nagasaki bombings were known as "nijū hibakusha".
      "Tsutomu Yamaguchi (山口 彊, Yamaguchi Tsutomu) (March 16, 1916 - January 4, 2010) was a Japanese marine engineer and a survivor of both the Hiroshima and Nagasaki atomic bombings during World War II. Although at least 70 people are known to have been affected by both bombings, he is the only person to have been officially recognized by the government of Japan as surviving both explosions." He had to fight for recognition as a double survivor very late in his life.

  • @Wideoval73
    @Wideoval73 2 роки тому +6

    F-89 Scorpion has always been one of my favorite aircraft. Wasn't really that great, but I have always liked it's look. Another really good video.

  • @roberthill3207
    @roberthill3207 4 роки тому +36

    There is an interesting story about a drone gone haywire over LA in the 50s that was prosued by f89s in a failed attempt to shoot it down .

    • @paulwoodman5131
      @paulwoodman5131 4 роки тому +12

      4:40 "the Delta 'successfully' engaged the F6F-5K Hellcat drone". ?? Uh ,no, the Hellcat drone embarrassed the Scorps. And at 3:08 , the midair collision and crash onto a school playground killing 3 children,4 aboard the, not a jet, DC-7B airliner & the Scorpion pilot, so upset a student, Richard Valenzuela (Richie Valens)(he wasn't at school that day) that he was afraid to fly. Later Richie Valens died along with The Big Bopper and Buddy Holly in a aircraft accident. The Day the Music Died.

    • @1994CPK
      @1994CPK 4 роки тому +1

      Anyone here listen to Brian Suits on KFI? I just learned about that a few weeks ago

    • @keneilrichards3014
      @keneilrichards3014 4 роки тому +1

      watch the Truth of God with Pastor Gino Jennings on UA-cam

    • @roberthill3207
      @roberthill3207 4 роки тому

      @@1994CPK yes i do dark secret place. Have a great day

  • @clintlewis8122
    @clintlewis8122 4 роки тому +6

    My father was a weapons officer on a F-89J. He flew in the late 50's and scrambled on Khrushchev during his tour of the United States.

    • @jeffhallel8211
      @jeffhallel8211 2 роки тому

      "We will bury you" said Khrushchev at the U.N. as he made threatening motions with his fingers. 1960.

    • @frankpienkosky5688
      @frankpienkosky5688 Рік тому

      got to see him when he came to my town....@@jeffhallel8211

  • @barrybend7189
    @barrybend7189 4 роки тому +12

    I would love to see Shoji Kowamori make a Variable Fighter of this.

  • @r.deeblanche6939
    @r.deeblanche6939 3 роки тому +5

    “I had a baseball hat and I put that on, just in case.’ Ground Zero: population 5. This stuff is just priceless...

  • @thedungeondelver
    @thedungeondelver 4 роки тому +4

    Part of what made the Genie so potent (so it was thought) was that while its explosive blast was only 1000 ft. was that the neutron flux from the detonation would cause enemy bombers' weapons to "fizzle", rather than detonate properly when dropped.

  • @Sp00kyV0id
    @Sp00kyV0id 4 роки тому +8

    Ah yes the baseball hat will portect me from a nuclear mission exploding over me

    • @sirclarkmarz
      @sirclarkmarz 4 роки тому +1

      everyone knows you have to wear a hat made out of foil to protect you from the government

    • @revenevan11
      @revenevan11 4 роки тому +1

      It probably did shield his eyes a bit though

    •  4 роки тому

      "Just in case."

  • @tayninh69
    @tayninh69 3 роки тому

    Back in the 1950's I was a kid growing up in Milwaukee Wisconsin. We lived about 2 blocks from the the airport. I remember the Wisconsin Air National Guard flying the P-51d Mustangs until they transitioned to the F-89 Scorpion. When the unit would go on maneuvers they would sit at the end of the runway, run the engines up to after burner and then take off. While all that was going on you couldn't hear yourself think and watching TV was put on hold until the whole unit was airborne and on their way to wherever they were going. A lot of critics say the F-89 was an ugly jet, I myself find the aircraft to very beautiful and when they are landing under full flap conditions it really is a special show. Great video, brought back some childhood memories.

    • @EthanL21800
      @EthanL21800 2 роки тому +1

      Can’t imagine how cool that must’ve been to see and hear

    • @tayninh69
      @tayninh69 2 роки тому

      @@EthanL21800 Yes, it was very cool to hear and see.

  • @warhappens-com4489
    @warhappens-com4489 4 роки тому +8

    Great video.... except you mention that the Genie was last Nuclear AA missile. Not exactly true. The Aim-26 Falcon had a version with nuclear warhead. So did the AIM47 which then morphed into the AIM-54 Phoenix, which is where I ran into it. We work on the project to make Nuclear Phoenix for the Navy F-14 but they decide it was more dangerous aboard ship than to enemy. . Hughes engineers were very good at putting together new missiles by combining parts from several. There were many Fraken missiles built and tested almost monthly. A radar was nose mounted in later models of Scorpion.
    Another Scorpion first that can not be over stated first Axial flow Jet engine in a American production fighter. The Allison J35 while under-powered for plane was very state of the Art for 1947.

    • @aaronmorley5370
      @aaronmorley5370 4 роки тому

      dwiggins01 no need to correct you, you are absolutely correct! The He178 in 1939 (August 27 to be exact) was the first jet powered aircraft, but was centrifugal. The Me262 was flown in 1942 with a Jumo 004 axial-flow turbojet somewhat beating the Scorpion, not only in age, but also in production numbers.

    • @warhappens-com4489
      @warhappens-com4489 4 роки тому

      @@aaronmorley5370 I have corrected post above, You are right, Me-262 was way ahead of its time. I should have noticed the engines been so slim.

    • @warhappens-com4489
      @warhappens-com4489 2 роки тому

      @@alpinorico2 I did not realized the F-106 were nuclear capable into the 1980s. And I always wondered if it was a suicide mission really.

  • @MuscleDad420
    @MuscleDad420 3 роки тому

    3:09 Fun fact about this crash: Early rock & roll star Ritchie Valens was a student at Pacoima High School, where the stricken Douglas DC-7 crashed. He wasn't at school that day but his imagination of the events cemented a fear of flying in his head. He later died in a plane crash with The Big Bopper and Buddy Holly a couple years later.

  • @DaremoKamen
    @DaremoKamen 3 роки тому +2

    When I was in the Air Guard back in the 80s our weapons storage site, that just held inert training weapons, was surrounded by a berm that had the remains of phones regularly spaced around it. I was told that it was left over from when the unit flew Scorpions, that the weapon storage site was designed for Genies, and that the idea was armed guards would constantly patrol the berm and each time they reached a phone they would report in before proceeding to the next phone.

    • @frankpienkosky5688
      @frankpienkosky5688 Рік тому

      found a couple of air force bunkers while out hunting in the woods....sign said "capacity 24 missiles"....but it never said what kind....

  • @lookythat2
    @lookythat2 3 роки тому +2

    There are a lot of inaccuracies in this video.
    The F-89 was, however, a very interesting jet, and in its lifespan, encompassed all the various types of Air to air armament considered or fielded from WW II to the Vietnam era.

  • @DoomMetalSludge
    @DoomMetalSludge Рік тому

    My grandfather flew these in the mid 50s. He told me that one day during a flight the tremendous weight of having the responsibility of controlling a nuclear payload hit him, to which he thought to himself "why me?" - a remarkable aircraft. Let's be thankful those genies were never deployed.

  • @jpatt1000
    @jpatt1000 Рік тому

    The F-89 shot many Genie rockets. (AIR-2 Air Intercept Rocket) It was not a missile like the AIM-47 Falcon as it was unguided. It did shoot the only firing of a Genie rocket with a live warhead. The 104 2.75" rocket salvo of the D model must have been impressive to see fired off! I've always thought the Scorpion was a great looking plane, especially the D and later models after the cannons were deleted. The H had the coolest weapon setup with three Falcons stored internally in each wingtip pod wich looked amazing when deployed. (It also retained 42 2.75" FFARs, in six groups of seven between the Falcons.) I've always wondered if the H could have also carried the four Falcons and two Genies under the wings like the J model in addition to the six in the wingtip pods.

  • @nicholasmaude6906
    @nicholasmaude6906 4 роки тому +1

    The AIR-2A Genie was NOT a missile it was a rocket as it had no guidance and control system. The Genie wasn't the only rocket carrying a nuclear-warhead there was the Hughes AIM-26A Super Falcon which carried the W-54 warhead.

  • @barrybrevik9178
    @barrybrevik9178 4 роки тому +1

    Wow, what a great video!
    I have seen several videos about the 5 guys at ground zero, but this is the only one that ties it to the bomb and launch aircraft, and I feel that this is of important relevance.
    My hat is off to Dark Skies for an exceptional video document!

  • @EtzEchad
    @EtzEchad 3 роки тому +1

    The Genie was not a missile. It had no guidance. It was the first and only air-to-air ROCKET ever deployed by the United States.
    One of the reasons that it was discontinued was because the doctrine on how it was to be used was to create a wall of nuclear fire over northern Canada. For some reason, the Canadians weren't too happy with this plan...

  • @douglasrodrigues9329
    @douglasrodrigues9329 3 роки тому +1

    The F-89 "Ramp Sweeper." Those low intakes would suck up FOD.

  • @briananthony4044
    @briananthony4044 4 роки тому +2

    The MD Voodoo was another nuclear A2A fighter. There were 2 missile types, the genie and the falcon. Fit the warhead to a modern SM-6 and no enemy warhead would get through.

  • @michaeldenesyk3195
    @michaeldenesyk3195 3 роки тому +1

    The Genie was not a 'Missile', it was a Rocket, unguided with a nuclear warhead

    • @stettan1
      @stettan1 Місяць тому

      Doesn't have to be guided according to the definition in a dictionary.

  • @JohnKruse
    @JohnKruse 3 роки тому

    My dad flew the North Dakota ANG jet #32619 at 5:00 in the video. He flew these for 6 years and then they transitioned to F-102s about the time I entered the world.
    Have no doubt that flying was pretty dangerous back in the 50s. His flight school "yearbook" had Xs with dates of their deaths next to about 1/4 of his classmates. He quit keeping track after about ten years. Frankly, a lot of the accidents were just stupidity. He had one backseater who was constantly wanting to lock the radar onto trucks on the highway to buzz them, etc. He later went to flight school and died when he caught a wingtip on a lake showing off for his family.

  • @ichemnutcracker
    @ichemnutcracker 3 роки тому +1

    "This aircraft is terrible... let's build a thousand of them!"

  • @hagerty2620
    @hagerty2620 4 роки тому +3

    “Code name: ding dong”
    Wow! So threatening😂

  • @PassportToPimlico
    @PassportToPimlico 4 роки тому +1

    The same nuclear missile was considered for the UK's English Electric Lightning. The problem was that a couple of air to air missiles would not stop a Soviet bomber fleet heading for the UK, especially as it was likely for one missile to fail.

  • @asukahasegawa
    @asukahasegawa 4 роки тому +10

    Rather than calling it by its proper name, some of us know it as "Cancer".
    If you know, you know.

    • @asukahasegawa
      @asukahasegawa 4 роки тому

      @@robmedd9528 Rarely. But enough to justify my distaste towards it.

    • @jacobthompson2520
      @jacobthompson2520 4 роки тому +1

      Railgun see this. this is why BR10.3 is the go to.

    • @asukahasegawa
      @asukahasegawa 4 роки тому

      @@jacobthompson2520 10.3 gives me mental illness, yet somehow it's still my favorite BR by far. Mental illness is just a part of WT at this point ;)

  • @evanplanas
    @evanplanas 2 роки тому

    engineer 1 "Man this plane keeps breaking up and crashing!?" engineer 2.."Maybe we should make the wings stronger?" engeenier1 "I guess we could try that."

  • @williamtell5365
    @williamtell5365 2 роки тому

    I vaguely remember seeing a few of these as a kid. Weird plane.

  • @Erasmuspipebagger1
    @Erasmuspipebagger1 4 роки тому

    Yourhouseorhomeisatriskifyoudonotkeepuppaymentsonit. The adverts are actually a relief.

  • @cycadence2577
    @cycadence2577 4 роки тому +2

    I enjoy these videos. The F89 (52-1870) involved in the 1957 Pacoima mid-air collision with a DC-7B was a "J" model and not a prototype.

  • @frankieguzikowski3902
    @frankieguzikowski3902 4 роки тому

    Nice intro music! Glad this channel is picking up so much popularity

  • @allenstratton5399
    @allenstratton5399 4 роки тому +3

    Great video and thank you for all your video's. How about a video on the 5 motor B-17

  • @daveogarf
    @daveogarf 4 роки тому +2

    "Our Friend, the Atom", MY ASS!

  • @TheZxman
    @TheZxman 3 роки тому

    We have a F-89 as a on ground gate guard first time i looked at the nose i was like WOW its have some fire power!!!

  • @Dimitri-Jordania
    @Dimitri-Jordania 4 роки тому +1

    All of ur channels rock and u should advertise that u have more than 1 cause I didnt know 4 forever.

  • @tonywilliams8426
    @tonywilliams8426 3 роки тому

    this sircraft eas the dubject of sn absolutely boss kit I built by Revell in 1978. it was functionally a P61 Black Widow on steroids!!!! great film...

  • @christoffkapp
    @christoffkapp 4 роки тому

    I see your back at announcing subsections. BTW, really good, love your episodes.

  • @Schwartz555
    @Schwartz555 4 роки тому

    Woah that mid air collision in 1957 between the DC-7 and F-89 was the one that killed a schoolyard friend of Ritchie Valenzuela and gave him his lifelong fear of flying

  • @victormartin6608
    @victormartin6608 Рік тому +1

    Excellent video

  • @broznkyra4853
    @broznkyra4853 3 роки тому

    IIRC a film was made about an aircraft bothered by a tail flutter problem ...caled "No highway in the Sky" with Jimmy Stewart and Marlene Dietrich...

  • @cookie_f0xy362
    @cookie_f0xy362 2 роки тому

    My favorite air force fighter was the f89 scorpion.

  • @mkendallpk4321
    @mkendallpk4321 4 роки тому +4

    I love how the photographer wasn't told that he would have no protective gear and decided to put on his baseball hat as protection!

    • @INWMI
      @INWMI 4 роки тому +2

      thats the most american thing i've read in the whole week

  • @josephgodfrey8468
    @josephgodfrey8468 3 роки тому

    When speaking of nukes, nuclear radiation and nuclear technology, there is a saying. It's impossible to put the "Genie" back into the bottle.

  • @roc0557
    @roc0557 4 роки тому +1

    Put the video at 0.75 make it sound like he's not talking at 2x speed

  • @paullacey2999
    @paullacey2999 3 роки тому

    'Alright lads just stand there for a bit....We're laying on a firework show for just you'

  • @BV-fr8bf
    @BV-fr8bf 4 роки тому +3

    Two years my 80+ year old father, a USAF navigator, tells me he had the launch codes for the Genie / MB1 nuclear tip missile if the Soviet bombers flew over the Arctic.
    Jaw hit the ground.

    • @robbates225
      @robbates225 4 роки тому +1

      My father was stationed in Fairbanks Alaska during the cold war,worked on F-89s. The 433rd FIS.

    • @allangibson8494
      @allangibson8494 4 роки тому +1

      And the security code was all zeros until 1975....

    • @ohcliffy
      @ohcliffy 4 роки тому

      @@allangibson8494 Lol! No it wasn't, do you really believe that?

    • @allangibson8494
      @allangibson8494 4 роки тому

      Cliff Walker The ICBM code was. They didn’t change the factory settings.

    • @allangibson8494
      @allangibson8494 4 роки тому

      Nonya Business They are NOW. The 1960’s were another much sloppier era.
      What I am referring to are the weapon arming codes which are set by switches on the warheads themselves.
      en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Permissive_Action_Link

  • @mathewkelly9968
    @mathewkelly9968 3 роки тому +1

    Nuclear rockets for home air defence , what could possibly go wrong ?

  • @SierraWesternDrake010
    @SierraWesternDrake010 3 роки тому

    My Great Grandfather, David Delameter, was the head of the Genie nuclear air to air missile program. Just thought I'd let you know Dark.

  • @the_trademark
    @the_trademark 4 роки тому +11

    dont speed up the audio please. its super unnatural to listen. my brain is missing half the info

    • @jackmann3
      @jackmann3 4 роки тому +1

      lmaoooooooo this man

    • @courtland123jones7
      @courtland123jones7 4 роки тому

      Now that you said that my brain is beginning to hurt

    • @edyram22
      @edyram22 4 роки тому

      Gotta adjust that playback speed.

  • @thesenate4040
    @thesenate4040 3 роки тому

    I think this guy should Start a podcast

  • @donaldhill3823
    @donaldhill3823 3 роки тому

    Nuclear air to air missile is as great an idea as Nuclear Torpedos which BTW also existed at the same time. Range meant firing Submarine was commuting suicide.

  • @malcolmlewis5860
    @malcolmlewis5860 4 роки тому

    I think you should do something on the RAF rush for nuke bombers post ww2 that lead to the V bombers and the Short Sperin. Such a lot of investment to make sure they could drop bombs on Russia. Also cover in a flow up video, the fighters the Hawker Hunter and the supermarine Swift, both planes that had many issues in early service and a large number of marks were made. The RAF needed up using F86 Sabra jets as a stop gap. Then there are issue with the Gloster Javelin, all weather interceptor with crappy radars and missiles.

  • @mr.orwell5680
    @mr.orwell5680 4 роки тому +8

    Atomic Cafe beat you by a day

  • @guardsmanom134
    @guardsmanom134 4 роки тому +4

    Honestly(though I understand this request is a tad MORBID), I would like to know what type of cancer. As a Cosmologist, and having an understanding of nuclear physics, it's important to know these things...

    • @kidcharlemagne1002
      @kidcharlemagne1002 4 роки тому +2

      So you're a nuclear hair stylist?

    • @feelx92ger
      @feelx92ger 4 роки тому +1

      @@kidcharlemagne1002 R A D I U M S H A M P O O

    • @waynebrinker8095
      @waynebrinker8095 4 роки тому

      @@kidcharlemagne1002 Kid, you are sofa king funny.

    • @guardsmanom134
      @guardsmanom134 4 роки тому

      @@waynebrinker8095 more like a sofa king wetahded.

    • @guardsmanom134
      @guardsmanom134 4 роки тому

      @@kidcharlemagne1002 the guy who can tell you everything about the stuff they put in that cosmic hairgel...jk. It means I study the Universe, and everything in it, how it works down to a quantum level, and the many different astrophysical situations astronomers observe. Like Albert, I taught myself what I couldn't find in university literature, and even that, mostly. It's been my passion since I was ten.

  • @erictaylor5462
    @erictaylor5462 4 роки тому

    "USAF Objective. Shoot down Soviet bombers before they reached the US."
    Here's the thing nobody seems to talk about. The shortest route from the USSR to the US is over the pole. This means the Soviet bombers would be approaching the US From the North. Shooting them down before they reach the US means shooting them down over Canada.
    But the Canadians were cool. They didn't have an issue with a rain of molten, radioactive aluminium.

  • @BioHunter1990
    @BioHunter1990 4 роки тому

    As my grandfather explained to me about the Genie (he worked on F-111s at bases in Seattle and Anchorage where F-89s where kept *with* Genies...the blast was not the key reason for the weapon’s effectiveness in taking down bomber formations. The shockwave and EMP where...though Idk what sorta EMP a 1.5kt bomb can produce.

  • @billballbuster7186
    @billballbuster7186 2 роки тому

    Love the F-89 Scorpion it was a very exciting design for its time.

    • @hellskitchen10036
      @hellskitchen10036 Рік тому

      The North American F-86 Sabre was and is my favorite.I drew so many in the 50's I eventually became a profession artist because of it, lol.

  • @tk423b
    @tk423b 4 роки тому

    Love the channel, keep them coming.

  • @thetreblerebel
    @thetreblerebel 4 роки тому

    Thanks for covering The Scorpion

  • @arthas640
    @arthas640 3 роки тому

    9:50 I guess that baseball cap did something

  • @richardvonpingel2379
    @richardvonpingel2379 4 роки тому +2

    Great vid but the DC-7 and F-102 pictured were actually a DC-4 and an F-106.

    • @aaronmorley5370
      @aaronmorley5370 4 роки тому +1

      Richard Von Pingel and he referred the ‘two jets’ crashing... A DC 7 was a jet? News to Douglas I am sure.

  • @Jason-qc4ty
    @Jason-qc4ty 3 роки тому

    Who wants to stand under a nuclear explosion?......5 hungover officers. "I guess"

  • @rickcratty6335
    @rickcratty6335 2 роки тому

    Believe there was an F-89J sitting out on a training field at Redstone Arsenal, Huntsville Ala back in the late 70s

  • @niriro5741
    @niriro5741 4 роки тому +3

    I just wanna know how many takes it took to say "code named ding dong" without laughing

  • @danhollatz5944
    @danhollatz5944 2 роки тому

    My father was stationed in turkey in K9 and was responsible for no one to see the Geinie missile it was so top secret that anyone who had seen the missile, was terminated! He never talked about it until he passed last year

  • @geraldrembert8321
    @geraldrembert8321 3 роки тому +1

    That F-102 was an F-106. Make the correction.

  • @michaelcarney6280
    @michaelcarney6280 4 роки тому +1

    Love these videos

  • @donjuandemccarthy2041
    @donjuandemccarthy2041 4 роки тому +17

    Dude i love your informative videos, but you gotta slow your speaking down. It sounds like the disclaimer at the end of a medicine commercial where they read off an entire sheet of side effects in 2.6 seconds.

    • @sparqqling
      @sparqqling 4 роки тому +2

      It is to cover up the countless facts he gets wrong in his video's

    • @ShunkLunkable
      @ShunkLunkable 4 роки тому +1

      His other job is probably an auctioneer

    • @patrickmclaughlin61
      @patrickmclaughlin61 4 роки тому +1

      Great vids. Just play them in .75 speed. Or less if you are inclined.

    • @joeeeyyyyyy
      @joeeeyyyyyy 4 роки тому +1

      @@patrickmclaughlin61 litreally doing this now. much more relaxing

    • @patrickmclaughlin61
      @patrickmclaughlin61 4 роки тому +1

      @@joeeeyyyyyy I just love this guy's voice. I'll play it for kicks at 2x. Lol

  • @blameusa7082
    @blameusa7082 4 роки тому

    Its not really an Air to Air missile, its just a missile that just happens to be fired from the air into the air

  • @robbieguh
    @robbieguh 2 роки тому

    Slap another 2 engines and a set of wings on and you've got an X-Wing. it's a beaut

  • @johndo3930
    @johndo3930 4 роки тому +43

    LOL you never volunteer in any army . I remember one morning as we where called out and standing at attention our lutenant asked for 6 volunteers for an secret space program... obviously no shortage off v0lunteers after picking 6 men he pointed to the temporary latrines and gave the order to go and clean those space shuttles...to the glee and laughter of the not choosen men

    • @icollectstories5702
      @icollectstories5702 4 роки тому +5

      Yoshitake was a civilian contractor; the other 5 were scientists who volunteered, according to Yoshitake. It sounded like it was just another gig to him. Times have changed, and we don't have the same warm-fuzzies with nuclear energy.

    • @Flyguy4500
      @Flyguy4500 4 роки тому

      Your spelling/grammar.....

    • @johndo3930
      @johndo3930 4 роки тому +2

      @@Flyguy4500 lol sorry about that english being my third language.

    • @Flyguy4500
      @Flyguy4500 4 роки тому +1

      John do it’s fine lol

    • @milkybar06
      @milkybar06 4 роки тому

      You cracked me up.

  • @jacobmccandles1767
    @jacobmccandles1767 3 роки тому

    I pass that Genie shooter almost daily.

  • @gumpyoldbugger6944
    @gumpyoldbugger6944 4 роки тому +1

    The USAF could of saved a lot of time and money and just ordered or made under licence the Avro Canada CF-100 Canuck from Canada. Did everything the F-89 did and had its first flight in 1950, also had the distinction of being the only air weather jet fighter in NATO for a number of years. A Mark 4 model actually broke Mach 1 in a dive, the first straight wing jet fighter to do so.

    • @wilsonhuber
      @wilsonhuber 4 роки тому

      Can't confirm it but I read long ago that it could break the sound barrier in level flight - approx 900 mph

    • @gumpyoldbugger6944
      @gumpyoldbugger6944 4 роки тому

      @@wilsonhuber not sure it could....given it was a straight winged A/C....but perhaps a specially modified one did it once........

  • @Cycy0099
    @Cycy0099 3 роки тому +1

    Is it just me or this man talks 1.5x faster than a normal man would? 🤔

  • @feraltrafficcone4483
    @feraltrafficcone4483 4 роки тому +2

    Ah yes, the First plane to carry UNGUIDED ANTI-AIR NUCLEAR WEAPONS
    I mean, that’s not _too crazy_ seeing as how there were nuclear mines that were thought about

    • @Hidensee
      @Hidensee 4 роки тому +1

      Ehmm you have them, ČSLA( Czechoslovakia people army) Engineer corps was trained to defused them.

    • @DJAYPAZ
      @DJAYPAZ 4 роки тому

      Jakob Thompson The army also tested a nuclear artillery shell !

  • @Bhslion
    @Bhslion 4 роки тому +1

    So is no one talking about two jets literally colliding head to head? Is that not crazy to anyone else?

  • @FawadKhan-ds6bl
    @FawadKhan-ds6bl 4 роки тому

    you know why his name is dark skies because it is dark and about the skies and he is very intelligent whoever you are

  • @petrsukenik9266
    @petrsukenik9266 3 роки тому

    Air to air nuke...
    Thats great idea, i love it

  • @Mach5Johnny
    @Mach5Johnny 4 роки тому

    Seen an F-89 Scorpion on display at Castle Air Museum… just wanna say Castle Air Museum in Atwater, CA has a fuckload of majestic birds on display there!

  • @shadowgunner69
    @shadowgunner69 3 роки тому

    I spent 3 years in the 84th FIS Black Panthers, loading Flacons & Genies on F-106s, a year with the 5th FIS and a year with the 144th at Fresno, also on F-106s. I do not believe there was ever a conventional warhead Genie, especially one that was for air to ground use. If you have a credible source, I would be eager to read it.
    Since Canada was part of NORAD, they also employed their CF-101s with Genies for Air Defense. They really balked about having the Genies, but they reached an agreement by having the Genies controlled by the US. The Soviets would have taken the polar route and despite the US being their primary target, Canada would be on their route. Canada would have suffered tremendous damage, as they would have been targeted, being a principle ally.
    Blast radius of the Genie seems to vary from source to source. Some say 1000 feet, ranging all the way to 1/2 mile radius. I prefer to use diameter, as it is a 3 dimensional blast.
    Range was typically 6 miles, but some sources say 10 miles. Personally, the F89 crew would have died in the blast. The 89 had neither the speed or maneuverability to escape. F-106s, which were Mach 2 jets had to do an immediate vector away form the target as soon as they launched to avoid the shockwave and blinding the pilot.