Congratulations 🎉 for the Lintons. They are great looking and sound wise. I wanted the Evo 4.2 but without the budget I got Diamond 12.2 and I am very pleased. It was also the matter of my stands that could not support those big boys.
I have the B&W 607 Anniversary Editions and they are extremely bright up top. But simply using an EQ or just tone controls takes care of them nicely and now they're my favorite bookshelf speakers. But when I compare them to my Klipsch RP-6000F floor standing speakers it's night and day. Definitely need a sub with the B&WS to keep from wearing out the bottom end and balance them out. I use both AB receiver and class D amp and they sound great either way, though slight edge to my Dennon AV2400 receiver over both Aiyima A07 pro and A07 max. Great comparison on the Lintons. They have an incredibly rich sound. It's like a nice warm dish on a cold night. Lovely texture to their sound. I need to sell some gear to get myself a pair now. Great job. Tim in Texas
Hey there, great review and great speaker, I love my Lintons. You probably got your answer with regards to removing the grill, I used a plastic auto trim removal tool bought on amazon. It works great, no marks on the speaker.
I had a similar experience with amplifiers with my Lintons. I went from a Yamaha RXA2040 AV amp with 140 watts per channel to a Leak 230 stereo amp with 75 watts per channel and the Leak sounded twice as powerful! Bass improved significantly and it sounded much fuller.
Most beautiful speakers I have ever seen. Vintage phenomenon. I hope you keep them forever and forget about Aura 2. Enjoyment is more important than high level of detail. Now that you practically saved 900 pounds you can get us all a beer to celebrate...
Positioning Stereo Loudspeakers The Linton Heritage speakers feature offset treble units to smooth the high frequency dispersion. The speakers should be positioned with treble units inwards, that is with the W badge on the grilles towards the outside. Additionally the drive unit dispersion is aided by the front grilles which should be left on for optimum listening performance. Removing the grilles will produce a brighter but less smooth sound. If the loudspeakers are placed too close to the walls the bass will increase but may be boomy and indistinct. If the loudspeakers are placed further away from the walls, the inward angle ("toe in") may be increased by up to 30%. As personal taste plays a large role, experiment with different configurations and play a wide range of programme material before finalising the position of your speakers. The optimum listening position is in the area broadly known as the "sweet spot" . The more extreme the angle, the narrower is the sweet spot. Wharfedale loudspeakers are designed to cover a wide sonic perspective so there should be no need for extreme settings.
I got my pair of these in mahoganey finish 5 months ago and have enjoyed them immensely. I have them hooked up to my Willsenton R8 valve amp with 45wpc RMS. They sound much smoother and refined connected to the 4-ohm binding posts versus the 8-ohm.
I own a set of wharfdale 230s like the ones in your vids. Now I know at 3 or 4 times the cost the Lintons wont be 3 times the speaker. My question is the extra wonga worth it over the 230s. Is there a sizable improvement in sound to warrant getting the Lintons. Whats the sound like between the two. Now my guess both being made by wharfdale there may have some similar traits like being warm and have a romantic sound with decent sub bass and smooth treble etc etc. My silly mind is thinking one being a floorstander and pushes well above its class and one being a big bookshelf speaker there shouldn't be such a huge jump and how could a bookshelf be as room filling as s floorstander etc etc. I would like your thought's much appreciated with your channel your the nuts love your content.
In my opinion, the Lintons are quite an improvement over the 230's. For the price the 230's are still very good but the Lintons are a lot more refined with a much cleaner bass response.
Detach grill > Use putty knife 2" or so > insert in 45° angle > flip > Gently she said. - And i guess this is a British take - Then throw in Audiolab 7000/9000A - Great pairing.
I can’t imagine ever swapping out my Linton’s. I use them with a Willsenton R8 for acoustic music and a Nord Acoustics class D power amp for electronica. Bliss either way.
Pretty solid sound from both. I used to own a pair of 'Wharfdale Airdale SP' back in the late 80s...about 2 x the size of the Lintons. Sonic bliss back then...landlord could have charged me ground rent for those...huge!
I had a pair of Airdales xp series back in 80's. so regret selling as I was moving and couldn't take them. I prefer the sound of the xp series as they we nice and crisp with good highs.
Great speakers and awesome walk around ! Subscribed👍🏻👊🏻 Side note I’ve got a pair on the way should be here soon I’ll be pairing with a Arcam sa30 . Currently I’m running some Kef R3 metas with S3 stands and sound really good but for me can be a little fatiguing so I want to try a little warmer speaker and why I’m going to give the lintons a try . Also I’ve got a set of those plastic pry bars I got on Amazon for my car I think would be user friendly to take the grills off and there cheap 👍🏻
The speakers look fantastic, they are modern but still retro. I've got Dali Oberon 5s and SVS prime bookshelves and I love them. How would you compare Lintons to Oberon 5s? Oberons are very clear and detailed and classical music sounds amazing but they are not that good for metal. I'm guessing that's because of small woofers which can't handle too much noise fast drums and guitars. SVS do handle lower frequencies much better. Do Lintons have wider and deeper soundstage? Do they sound detailed playing loud? Please advise. I would appreciate it.
They have more bass than the Dali's. The Linton's can go very loud without distortion. Mids and treble about the same. Lintons have a warmer presentation, Dali's have a little more detail
Thanks for the share. I have been looking at the vintage look do like Linton ( the big brother 'Dove' would be nice but it's 3x more). Need to see who has these for demo in land down under. As for amps you pay per watt per channel & it's reflective on output. Avr 7-11 channels cost the same ( or way more) as an Int amp with only 2 channels. Most people don't understand these.
Thanks for the Linton Review!!! Very informative/educational..... I have a pair of Denton 85's that I bought recently, and was not completely satisfied with the imaging with this specific pair. I had wondered if the placement had something to do with it - and yes indeed, as you documented in your video, the "W" is supposed to be on the outside speaker grille, and mine were placed backward. I switched the position of the speakers, and they sound remarkably better. I checked all Wharfedale documentation, and could not see where they tell us that there is a left and right speaker....going to liquidate some of my current Polk speakers to purchase the Linton's, decided to do this after watching your review. Thanks again!!!
I couldn't find the placement of the tweeters in the documents I received with the speakers either? Perhaps I missed it? I had to search online to find it.
I watched your video before you purchased your Linton. What is the total cost of Linton with stands. What is the cost difference between Linton with stands and 606. If you used the difference and purchased a REl subwoofer for your B606, you may spend less overall, but have more bass without losing details (elevated highs).
To get the grills off I use a sign squeegee made of semi ridged rubber, it’s credit card shaped (slightly bigger). I slide the long edge in the gap and gently leverage it from each corner. It still takes a bit of work but leaves no marks
Those Warfedales are a cracking pair of speakers our kid, and tbh , they will only get better. I expect. has time goes by ..ya can't beat the Old Skool look...even in 2024 . 😂
Enjoy the Lintons. I have tried mine with Leak 130 , Nad 3020 , Denon 1510 , Ariand kt 88 valve amp and Yamaha s1200. Best results was with the Denon. I wouldn't bother with the Cambridge but do check out the Leak 230 . I personally like the Wharfedale with tweeters out . They need a lot of time to burn in and use a credit card to take the grills off. Try toeing them a bit . All the best
I've also tried my Lintons with some amplifiers: refurbished Denon PMA-1060, refurbished Pioneer A-757, new Leak 130. Best result was with the Denon. That's a really good match.
@@SnapperX3 Nice amplifier! That's kind of a modern successor of the PMA-1060. I guess it will work. The Lintons need a bit of experimenting in the room to get the most out of them. They need the right distance to the back wall. In my room it's about 60cm or a bit under 2 feet. Have fun and enjoy!
I've not heard either speaker you mentioned but I am pretty confident in assuming that the Linton's are considerably better. Although, it does depend on the size of the room. If you have a really small room, the Linton's would be overkill.
I have the Linton's w/ a REL Classic 98 sub. 😁 Lots of hard surfaces in the room.A rug will help tremendously, maybe a couple acoustic panels on the walls. Mine are out about 1 foot in front of my cabinet , 3 ft from the wall. Helped with bass response. Using a Primaluna Prologue integrated, 35 wpc . Enjoyed your You're really entertaining & funny. Grill removal- small plastic putty knife.
Love the lintons they look great. I think the rotel sounds better for 2 reasons. 1. There will be less componts in it, only 2 channels, no dolby, no sound processing etc.... so less interference going on in the pre and power stages 2. if you have two boxes that say cost 1k, the receiver will split that money between, the pre amp (and that will be a castly complicated preamp) 5/7 or more power amplifiers, signal processing/dolby etc... where as a stereo amp pretty much has a transformer, pre amp and left and right power stages. so the money spent on components for those two chanel stereo is way more than was spent on the two channel components in a multi channel set up if you see what I mean.
Another great video 👍 Yes I found the Linton’s to sound better, a bit deeper bass ( UA-cam compression notwithstanding ) I’m not sure about the looks mind but they sound great which is what you want form a speaker 🤔 Ron
Great video! Love my Lintons, have them with an Yamaha AS-501 and I believe they make a very nice combination. If you still have that Yamaha amp, you could check for yourself :)!
Nice move! Congrats! The Linton's are a beautiful set of speakers. They sound the best when you have an amp that can deliver plenty of power reserve - capacitance. Funnily enough, hardly any supposedly professional reviewers on UA-cam mention that information when reviewing amplifiers. If they did, they would be able to explain why the Audiolab 6000a sounds so good at such a price - it has a capacitance of 60000 micro Farads, which no entry level amps can match. For example, the very competent Yamaha AS500 you reviewed only has 24000 micro Farad capacitance although it has a very competent power supply and can easily handle 4ohm loads all day long. If you really want to get the best out of your Linton's you can plan for a future amp that can deliver constant juice at 4ohms without overheating and which has at least 60000 micro Farad capacitance. If you have an amp there that can be used as a pre-amp, then you can even shop for a power amp and cover all bases. You should hear your Linton's through an Emotiva XPA-2 Gen3 power amp! That's an end game combination! It's roughly 1000 quid but performs as well as amps that are many times it's price. You won't need any other amp for the rest of your life. Just a suggestion to think about. Cheers.
@@jm-vq4cm It's possible. From my experience, almost all Wharfedale speakers tend to dip well below 4 ohms when dealing with certain bass frequencies. Your amp has to be able to deal with those momentary power draws, as well as be able to deliver the power consistently. If your receiver can do that, then It's possible to correct the lack of bass sound by positioning the speakers closer to your side walls and the wall behind them. Otherwise, you'll need a stronger amp.
@@jelk1188 sorry to ask but maybe you can educate me. I understand it's a question of current. But how is a 50w amp into 4 ohms good enough for Lintons while my 120w into 8 ohms cannot? Is current not a direct factor of power? I mean while listening at reasonable volume without going into overheat. To me the 120w should therefore sound as good or better than the 50w. I just don't understand that.
@@jm-vq4cm It's also about the power supply, but essentially you should be looking at an amp that can handle 4 ohms and lists it on the spec sheet too - i.e. 90w@8ohms/150w@4ohms, etc. You'll find amps that are designed to handle 4 ohms will do so at moderate volume levels without heating up a lot. If you're strapped for cash, you can find an old Yamaha A S-700 for very little and it will easily do the job. An Audio lab 6000a is probably the cheapest thing you can get new that has enough capacitance to make your sound richer and fuller as well. Ideally, you could get something like the Yamaha A - S1100 - that has 72000 micro farads capacitance and is built to last two lifetimes, lol. Its power supply is over 620Va - a monster. Feel free to ask me anything, anytime.
@@jm-vq4cm It's a matter of design and how much strain is exerted on your amp's power supply in tandem with the ability to deliver power at a certain ohm range. If an amplifier is not designed to work at 4 ohms it really struggles when your speakers ask for power in that range. Irrespective of its 8ohm power abilities it will overheat and clip. I'm no electronics engineer, but I have a friend who is and he used this analogy - 8ohms is running, 4 ohms is swimming. It doesn't matter how good you are at running if you can't swim. You'll drown - (amp switches off, speakers get destroyed) A manufacturer will disclose if an amp is designed to handle 4 ohm loads, and most will list the power an amp can produce at certain ohms, i.e. - 90@8ohms/120@6ohms/150@4ohms. Ideally, you would get an amp that can work easily in the 4 ohm range while being able to deliver power quickly - a high current amp (Flippers while swimming, lol). Cheapest solution would be to get an Audiolab 6000a, although I don't like it's power supply - 200va. But it does have excellent capacitance - this always expresses itself as a fuller and richer sound across all frequencies, if the unit has a flat freq. response curve. If you don't listen to music loudly (over 85 db at 9 feet), you should be okay with an amp like that. I solved this problem in my own system by getting an ex-demo Yamaha A-S1100. Its power supply is over 620va, and it has a capacitance of 72000 micro farads, plus it's built to last two lifetimes. For me it's an end game purchase. Still have my A-S500 amp which I use for night listening (65db)
Hi Marty , great interesting video, I must admit the Wharfedale speakers so look very nice , I also have 606 s2 anniversary speakers in view in replacing my dm602s3, but I think that my old sound speakers sound better than my new ones . It’s interesting that B&W have improved with the s3. I also have wharfledale Linton 2 which is on my Cambridge Audio Sonata system , they sound petty good although 40yrs old . Regards mark
Good review man 👍. I used a flat screwdriver wraped in cloth and gentle pulled it off all the way round on a pair of 80th. Before you put the grill back on, I put a very small amount of silicone grease on the metal pins. What was wrong with your dali Oberon 5? I thought they were very good. I'm guessing you got bored of them and got that etch. 😊
I can't shake feeling I have already seen this room on ASR. Positioning is bad and too low judging by you siting on the chair but perhaps you lay back more when listening (most people do). B&W first sounded compressed and holow but shaked that later being only a bit bright perhaps. Linton's got a hole in uper bass. You can't do accoustic treatment but sure you can proper DSP correction either with PEQ filters or convolver filter and if you are lazy then wity room correction like Dirac. It will be a challenge either way with large glass window on one side and open space on another. Try with thick curtains made of wool or cotton over the windows and as precise chanel SPL matching afterwards, good luck.
606 sound brighter up top and more detail but the Linton's where smooth and deeper bass of course, bigger cabinet. I'm still using a pair of Yamaha NS-670 from 1978 in mint condition and they sound wonderful with a Yamaha B2 amplifier.
AV Receivers are not that good for 2ch Music listening because the sound goes through the Dolby Decoders and Encoders sucks the Life out of the sound, it's much better to use a dedicated Stereo Amp for more satisfying music listening experience
Excellent I was advised to take my Linton grilles off with a doubled up credit card and I suffered no damage but would not advise anything too hard or abrasive
I purchased a set of Lintons and Leak Stereo 130 with the CD Transport in Walnut (From Richer Sounds )to match the speaker finish and the set up is awesome - so happy with the speakers - they get better with use - I did however upgrade my amp and bought a Sugden A21 class A... so sold the Leak gear to fund the Sugden ( what an amp - but not taking away from the Leak set-up and yes I would recommend Leak and in Walnut its a perfect match for the Lintons - it oozes that retro vibe - enjoy and greetings from Ireland
@@dextercool the A21 Sugden is in another league compared to the Leak 130 - but it's not a fair comparison IMO - and I won't in anyway take away the performance of the Leak 130 - but the Sugden is stunning at the price point - no bells or whistles / just a chunk of heavy class A performance
Houses for mere mortals in the UK are tiny. No point in wasting money “improving” room acoustics because as I said it is small and cramped.😂 You just have to settle on what you have.😊
Oh my! They are the perfect pair of speakers! I wanna do a pair my self like the ones SoundBlab did recently, but man... that will take me half a year.... Those B&W sounds like razor blades! Trash! But you can always mod the crossovers in'em! ;) And yes, the Lintons are 900 pounds better, because the 606s will keep setting you back, buying other pickups for the turntable, modding the speakers, buying a better amp and so on until you get deaf because it was the speaker all that time. ;) ...or get APO EQ on your PC and use them for that. Bloody love those Linton's! Congratulations
I run my Lintons with the Yamaha a-s2200, and they sound great! Was a huge improvement over my old integrated (Wyred4Sound mINT). The class AB Yamaha, blows away the class D mINT.
Don’t use metal spoons or knives taking the grill off from the speaker because it is hard and could ruin the edges. Use PLASTIC Door Clip Panel Trim Removal Tool Kit. The ones that they use in Halfords for dash camera wire installation. It’s a handy little kit perfect for the job.
Wonderful speakers! A speaker with relaxed top end is just so much easier to live with. Any speakers that land here sooner or later I end up soldering resistors to the tweeters. Usually to great effect bringing out midrange and warmth. Often midrange is drowned in u-shaped treble and in-room bass boost. As well as creating a, to my ears natural top end as real life doesn't have boosted treble either. Does it? Unless you have significant hearing damage of course. Then get the brightest speaker you can and I think this is also why so much "high end" audio is unbearably bright. By the time you can afford it you are deaf.
I'm 2 channel all the way when it comes to just listening to my music. I do have a home theater system as well in my living room. But when it comes to music, 2 channel & nothing more! I have a Sony STR DH 190 & it does the job for me. It has a phono input. Great show btw buddy. 🤘🏻
When you're fed up with them Mart, give us a shout and I'll pop down and pick them up... Just up the road from you... 😉They sound very nice. I think it's about time you got some carpet down though. Makes a big difference. Cracking sound comparison too.
They’re lovely Marty, bigger enclosure, better aesthetics. Much warmer deeper vintage sound. Even the stands look premium,spot on 👌👌listened to your sound test using my QC35’s and the difference was amazing. very nice. Albeit a little pricey,for me anyway🤣but you get what you pay for. #Fact. 🤣😬😬💪💪
Glad you are one of the sensible ones and use headphones. You'd be surprised how many people listen on their phone speakers and tell me there's no difference!
Do either of you gentlemen have recommendations for decent headphones that are less than or about $200? I don't have any at all except Bose earbuds which are amazing but really uncomfortable for listening more than 10 minutes.
@@UTILITARIANTVUK 🤣🤣yeah I know mate people just don’t use their brains sometimes. 🤦♂️Lots of keyboard warriors to Mart. Mate, your vids are great, always look forward to them. Appreciated all the hard work that goes in to them to. 💪💪🙏✨👍
The Lintons can dig a little deeper and have a warmer sound. If I had to choose, I would go for the Lintons but I wouldn't say one is particularly better than the other.
My wife bought a pair of wharfedales back in 1992. Her bloody niece or nephew broke the tweeters with naughty fingers.......... I replaced them a few years ago with ones from a free pair of speakers
Very nice speakers! If you want to remove the grilles more easily, I’d use nylon trim removal tools (or similar ones from phone tool kits). Also, regarding the tweeters, sometimes, depending on your room and your preference, you can try switching the left and right speakers.
Shoddy cabinet construction and cheap crossover electronics. The angle trim around the face edge causes diffraction. Why did they do this? Shouldn't sound quality trump looks? Build a better box and upgrade the crossover caps and you have a pretty good speaker.
C'mon Tom, this is the second time on this channel that you've mentioned this? You don't even own a set so how do you know? This sounds like it's straight out of Danny's 'buy my upgrade kit' playbook.
AV receivers never sound good in two channel stereo. I know that’s gonna upset a lot of people an amp and a chip just doesn’t produce a nice signal for two channels stereo and to be honest, their power ratings, always peak power output, a very rarely in RMS, so the power you think you’re getting for your speakers is not what you’re getting dedicated two channel stereo ample always sound better
6 ohms use more power form you amp or AVR. If you're AVR has a bit more power you should be okay. If you're going to get the grills off use a credit card ie loyalty card and gently lever it from the top. Otherwise you can damage the veneer. But they are a very nice sounding speaker.
@utilitarian I would give it a go on the 8 ohm setting. The lower ohm setting on receivers simply cuts the current allowed to go through the transformer. This kills power and headroom. Always keep the AVR in the 8 ohm setting. It will not hurt the AVR. Audioholics have a few articles and videos on this topic. ua-cam.com/video/E2QLwunNKL0/v-deo.html
@@UTILITARIANTVUK will have to check that out 😋… lovely speakers.. would be top of my list if I was out for a new pair.. I’m running a pair of PCM FB2i …a good twenty years old .. wonder there stand up to the Linton ..
Congratulations 🎉 for the Lintons. They are great looking and sound wise.
I wanted the Evo 4.2 but without the budget I got Diamond 12.2 and I am very pleased.
It was also the matter of my stands that could not support those big boys.
I have the B&W 607 Anniversary Editions and they are extremely bright up top. But simply using an EQ or just tone controls takes care of them nicely and now they're my favorite bookshelf speakers. But when I compare them to my Klipsch RP-6000F floor standing speakers it's night and day.
Definitely need a sub with the B&WS to keep from wearing out the bottom end and balance them out.
I use both AB receiver and class D amp and they sound great either way, though slight edge to my Dennon AV2400 receiver over both Aiyima A07 pro and A07 max.
Great comparison on the Lintons. They have an incredibly rich sound. It's like a nice warm dish on a cold night. Lovely texture to their sound.
I need to sell some gear to get myself a pair now.
Great job.
Tim in Texas
Cheers Tim!
Hey there, great review and great speaker, I love my Lintons. You probably got your answer with regards to removing the grill, I used a plastic auto trim removal tool bought on amazon. It works great, no marks on the speaker.
Greetings, I enjoyed your video from beginning to end. Fantastic speakers.
I had a similar experience with amplifiers with my Lintons. I went from a Yamaha RXA2040 AV amp with 140 watts per channel to a Leak 230 stereo amp with 75 watts per channel and the Leak sounded twice as powerful! Bass improved significantly and it sounded much fuller.
Most beautiful speakers I have ever seen. Vintage phenomenon. I hope you keep them forever and forget about Aura 2. Enjoyment is more important than high level of detail. Now that you practically saved 900 pounds you can get us all a beer to celebrate...
Those Lintons looks flipping awesome!!
Positioning Stereo Loudspeakers The Linton Heritage speakers feature offset treble units to smooth the high frequency dispersion. The speakers should be positioned with treble units inwards, that is with the W badge on the grilles towards the outside. Additionally the drive unit dispersion is aided by the front grilles which should be left on for optimum listening performance. Removing the grilles will produce a brighter but less smooth sound. If the loudspeakers are placed too close to the walls the bass will increase but may be boomy and indistinct. If the loudspeakers are placed further away from the walls, the inward angle ("toe in") may be increased by up to 30%. As personal taste plays a large role, experiment with different configurations and play a wide range of programme material before finalising the position of your speakers. The optimum listening position is in the area broadly known as the "sweet spot" . The more extreme the angle, the narrower is the sweet spot. Wharfedale loudspeakers are designed to cover a wide sonic perspective so there should be no need for extreme settings.
I got my pair of these in mahoganey finish 5 months ago and have enjoyed them immensely. I have them hooked up to my Willsenton R8 valve amp with 45wpc RMS. They sound much smoother and refined connected to the 4-ohm binding posts versus the 8-ohm.
I own a set of wharfdale 230s like the ones in your vids. Now I know at 3 or 4 times the cost the Lintons wont be 3 times the speaker. My question is the extra wonga worth it over the 230s. Is there a sizable improvement in sound to warrant getting the Lintons. Whats the sound like between the two. Now my guess both being made by wharfdale there may have some similar traits like being warm and have a romantic sound with decent sub bass and smooth treble etc etc. My silly mind is thinking one being a floorstander and pushes well above its class and one being a big bookshelf speaker there shouldn't be such a huge jump and how could a bookshelf be as room filling as s floorstander etc etc. I would like your thought's much appreciated with your channel your the nuts love your content.
In my opinion, the Lintons are quite an improvement over the 230's. For the price the 230's are still very good but the Lintons are a lot more refined with a much cleaner bass response.
Detach grill > Use putty knife 2" or so > insert in 45° angle > flip > Gently she said.
- And i guess this is a British take - Then throw in Audiolab 7000/9000A - Great pairing.
I can’t imagine ever swapping out my Linton’s. I use them with a Willsenton R8 for acoustic music and a Nord Acoustics class D power amp for electronica. Bliss either way.
Pretty solid sound from both. I used to own a pair of 'Wharfdale Airdale SP' back in the late 80s...about 2 x the size of the Lintons. Sonic bliss back then...landlord could have charged me ground rent for those...huge!
I had a pair of Airdales xp series back in 80's. so regret selling as I was moving and couldn't take them. I prefer the sound of the xp series as they we nice and crisp with good highs.
Great speakers and awesome walk around ! Subscribed👍🏻👊🏻
Side note I’ve got a pair on the way should be here soon I’ll be pairing with a Arcam sa30 . Currently I’m running some Kef R3 metas with S3 stands and sound really good but for me can be a little fatiguing so I want to try a little warmer speaker and why I’m going to give the lintons a try . Also I’ve got a set of those plastic pry bars I got on Amazon for my car I think would be user friendly to take the grills off and there cheap 👍🏻
The speakers look fantastic, they are modern but still retro. I've got Dali Oberon 5s and SVS prime bookshelves and I love them. How would you compare Lintons to Oberon 5s? Oberons are very clear and detailed and classical music sounds amazing but they are not that good for metal. I'm guessing that's because of small woofers which can't handle too much noise fast drums and guitars. SVS do handle lower frequencies much better. Do Lintons have wider and deeper soundstage? Do they sound detailed playing loud? Please advise. I would appreciate it.
They have more bass than the Dali's. The Linton's can go very loud without distortion. Mids and treble about the same. Lintons have a warmer presentation, Dali's have a little more detail
Thanks for the share. I have been looking at the vintage look do like Linton ( the big brother 'Dove' would be nice but it's 3x more). Need to see who has these for demo in land down under.
As for amps you pay per watt per channel & it's reflective on output. Avr 7-11 channels cost the same ( or way more) as an Int amp with only 2 channels. Most people don't understand these.
I have had my for 3 months now and the more I listen to them the better they sound low or high they are awesome and I am still in breaking mode!
Thanks for the Linton Review!!! Very informative/educational..... I have a pair of Denton 85's that I bought recently, and was not completely satisfied with the imaging with this specific pair. I had wondered if the placement had something to do with it - and yes indeed, as you documented in your video, the "W" is supposed to be on the outside speaker grille, and mine were placed backward. I switched the position of the speakers, and they sound remarkably better. I checked all Wharfedale documentation, and could not see where they tell us that there is a left and right speaker....going to liquidate some of my current Polk speakers to purchase the Linton's, decided to do this after watching your review. Thanks again!!!
I couldn't find the placement of the tweeters in the documents I received with the speakers either? Perhaps I missed it? I had to search online to find it.
I watched your video before you purchased your Linton.
What is the total cost of Linton with stands. What is the cost difference between Linton with stands and 606. If you used the difference and purchased a REl subwoofer for your B606, you may spend less overall, but have more bass without losing details (elevated highs).
I'm looking forward to you getting a Leak 230.
To get the grills off I use a sign squeegee made of semi ridged rubber, it’s credit card shaped (slightly bigger). I slide the long edge in the gap and gently leverage it from each corner. It still takes a bit of work but leaves no marks
Best method as I found on earlier Wharfedale Linton 85 reviews: use a creditcard and gently ply off the grill. Easy, no fiddling, no chips.
Apparently they work better with the grills on?
Those Warfedales are a cracking pair of speakers our kid, and tbh , they will only get better. I expect. has time goes by ..ya can't beat the Old Skool look...even in 2024 . 😂
Enjoy the Lintons. I have tried mine with Leak 130 , Nad 3020 , Denon 1510 , Ariand kt 88 valve amp and Yamaha s1200. Best results was with the Denon. I wouldn't bother with the Cambridge but do check out the Leak 230 . I personally like the Wharfedale with tweeters out . They need a lot of time to burn in and use a credit card to take the grills off. Try toeing them a bit . All the best
Thanks for the tips!
I've also tried my Lintons with some amplifiers: refurbished Denon PMA-1060, refurbished Pioneer A-757, new Leak 130. Best result was with the Denon. That's a really good match.
@@colanitower That's good to hear. I have some on the way and I have a Denon PMA-1600. Hope it is a good match.
@@SnapperX3 Nice amplifier! That's kind of a modern successor of the PMA-1060. I guess it will work. The Lintons need a bit of experimenting in the room to get the most out of them. They need the right distance to the back wall. In my room it's about 60cm or a bit under 2 feet. Have fun and enjoy!
Thank you! Excited to start setting them up.@@colanitower
I have a set of linton's and thay are amazing the best way to get the grills off is to use two bank cards and slide them in and pop them off
How do you find the Wharfedale Linton speakers? Would you say they are as good as the Dali Zensor 1 or the Elax Monitor III?
I've not heard either speaker you mentioned but I am pretty confident in assuming that the Linton's are considerably better. Although, it does depend on the size of the room. If you have a really small room, the Linton's would be overkill.
Wow , fantastic sound lovely bass
I have the Linton's w/ a REL Classic 98 sub. 😁 Lots of hard surfaces in the room.A rug will help tremendously, maybe a couple acoustic panels on the walls. Mine are out about 1 foot in front of my cabinet , 3 ft from the wall. Helped with bass response. Using a Primaluna Prologue integrated, 35 wpc .
Enjoyed your You're really entertaining & funny.
Grill removal- small plastic putty knife.
Love the lintons they look great. I think the rotel sounds better for 2 reasons. 1. There will be less componts in it, only 2 channels, no dolby, no sound processing etc.... so less interference going on in the pre and power stages 2. if you have two boxes that say cost 1k, the receiver will split that money between, the pre amp (and that will be a castly complicated preamp) 5/7 or more power amplifiers, signal processing/dolby etc... where as a stereo amp pretty much has a transformer, pre amp and left and right power stages. so the money spent on components for those two chanel stereo is way more than was spent on the two channel components in a multi channel set up if you see what I mean.
Another great video 👍
Yes I found the Linton’s to sound better, a bit deeper bass ( UA-cam compression notwithstanding )
I’m not sure about the looks mind but they sound great which is what you want form a speaker 🤔
Ron
They are, but it takes a long time for the Lintons to settle in, at least mine did.
Would love to hear these vs the Dali Oberon 5's if you still have them.
I don't have them anymore sorry.
Great video! Love my Lintons, have them with an Yamaha AS-501 and I believe they make a very nice combination. If you still have that Yamaha amp, you could check for yourself :)!
Nice move! Congrats! The Linton's are a beautiful set of speakers.
They sound the best when you have an amp that can deliver plenty of power reserve - capacitance. Funnily enough, hardly any supposedly professional reviewers on UA-cam mention that information when reviewing amplifiers. If they did, they would be able to explain why the Audiolab 6000a sounds so good at such a price - it has a capacitance of 60000 micro Farads, which no entry level amps can match. For example, the very competent Yamaha AS500 you reviewed only has 24000 micro Farad capacitance although it has a very competent power supply and can easily handle 4ohm loads all day long.
If you really want to get the best out of your Linton's you can plan for a future amp that can deliver constant juice at 4ohms without overheating and which has at least 60000 micro Farad capacitance. If you have an amp there that can be used as a pre-amp, then you can even shop for a power amp and cover all bases. You should hear your Linton's through an Emotiva XPA-2 Gen3 power amp! That's an end game combination! It's roughly 1000 quid but performs as well as amps that are many times it's price. You won't need any other amp for the rest of your life. Just a suggestion to think about. Cheers.
Is this why Im having unsatisfying midbass from my linton? Bass sounds and weak and ill-defined.I am using an anthem mrx500 receiver with my lintons.
@@jm-vq4cm It's possible. From my experience, almost all Wharfedale speakers tend to dip well below 4 ohms when dealing with certain bass frequencies. Your amp has to be able to deal with those momentary power draws, as well as be able to deliver the power consistently. If your receiver can do that, then It's possible to correct the lack of bass sound by positioning the speakers closer to your side walls and the wall behind them. Otherwise, you'll need a stronger amp.
@@jelk1188 sorry to ask but maybe you can educate me. I understand it's a question of current. But how is a 50w amp into 4 ohms good enough for Lintons while my 120w into 8 ohms cannot? Is current not a direct factor of power? I mean while listening at reasonable volume without going into overheat. To me the 120w should therefore sound as good or better than the 50w. I just don't understand that.
@@jm-vq4cm It's also about the power supply, but essentially you should be looking at an amp that can handle 4 ohms and lists it on the spec sheet too - i.e. 90w@8ohms/150w@4ohms, etc. You'll find amps that are designed to handle 4 ohms will do so at moderate volume levels without heating up a lot. If you're strapped for cash, you can find an old Yamaha A S-700 for very little and it will easily do the job. An Audio lab 6000a is probably the cheapest thing you can get new that has enough capacitance to make your sound richer and fuller as well. Ideally, you could get something like the Yamaha A - S1100 - that has 72000 micro farads capacitance and is built to last two lifetimes, lol. Its power supply is over 620Va - a monster. Feel free to ask me anything, anytime.
@@jm-vq4cm It's a matter of design and how much strain is exerted on your amp's power supply in tandem with the ability to deliver power at a certain ohm range. If an amplifier is not designed to work at 4 ohms it really struggles when your speakers ask for power in that range. Irrespective of its 8ohm power abilities it will overheat and clip. I'm no electronics engineer, but I have a friend who is and he used this analogy - 8ohms is running, 4 ohms is swimming. It doesn't matter how good you are at running if you can't swim. You'll drown - (amp switches off, speakers get destroyed)
A manufacturer will disclose if an amp is designed to handle 4 ohm loads, and most will list the power an amp can produce at certain ohms, i.e. - 90@8ohms/120@6ohms/150@4ohms. Ideally, you would get an amp that can work easily in the 4 ohm range while being able to deliver power quickly - a high current amp (Flippers while swimming, lol). Cheapest solution would be to get an Audiolab 6000a, although I don't like it's power supply - 200va. But it does have excellent capacitance - this always expresses itself as a fuller and richer sound across all frequencies, if the unit has a flat freq. response curve. If you don't listen to music loudly (over 85 db at 9 feet), you should be okay with an amp like that. I solved this problem in my own system by getting an ex-demo Yamaha A-S1100. Its power supply is over 620va, and it has a capacitance of 72000 micro farads, plus it's built to last two lifetimes. For me it's an end game purchase. Still have my A-S500 amp which I use for night listening (65db)
Hi Marty , great interesting video, I must admit the Wharfedale speakers so look very nice , I also have 606 s2 anniversary speakers in view in replacing my dm602s3, but I think that my old sound speakers sound better than my new ones . It’s interesting that B&W have improved with the s3. I also have wharfledale Linton 2 which is on my Cambridge Audio Sonata system , they sound petty good although 40yrs old . Regards mark
Thanks Mark. 👍
Good review man 👍. I used a flat screwdriver wraped in cloth and gentle pulled it off all the way round on a pair of 80th. Before you put the grill back on, I put a very small amount of silicone grease on the metal pins. What was wrong with your dali Oberon 5? I thought they were very good. I'm guessing you got bored of them and got that etch. 😊
The silicon is a good tip! I wasn't really bored with the Dali's, I just really wanted the Lintons! 😄
I can't shake feeling I have already seen this room on ASR. Positioning is bad and too low judging by you siting on the chair but perhaps you lay back more when listening (most people do). B&W first sounded compressed and holow but shaked that later being only a bit bright perhaps. Linton's got a hole in uper bass. You can't do accoustic treatment but sure you can proper DSP correction either with PEQ filters or convolver filter and if you are lazy then wity room correction like Dirac. It will be a challenge either way with large glass window on one side and open space on another. Try with thick curtains made of wool or cotton over the windows and as precise chanel SPL matching afterwards, good luck.
606 sound brighter up top and more detail but the Linton's where smooth and deeper bass of course, bigger cabinet. I'm still using a pair of Yamaha NS-670 from 1978 in mint condition and they sound wonderful with a Yamaha B2 amplifier.
don't care about the sound ( of course I do) but managing my vinyls in the stand is just brilliant! cheers
AV Receivers are not that good for 2ch Music listening because the sound goes through the Dolby Decoders and Encoders sucks the Life out of the sound, it's much better to use a dedicated Stereo Amp for more satisfying music listening experience
rubbish.
When i purchased my Lintons in 2021then wharfedale placed stickers on back
of left and right speakers.
My first impression (before you mentioned it yourself after the sound comparison) was that the 606s were quite bright.
Excellent
I was advised to take my Linton grilles off with a doubled up credit card and I suffered no damage but would not advise anything too hard or abrasive
The grilles are designed to stay on.
I purchased a set of Lintons and Leak Stereo 130 with the CD Transport in Walnut (From Richer Sounds )to match the speaker finish and the set up is awesome - so happy with the speakers - they get better with use - I did however upgrade my amp and bought a Sugden A21 class A... so sold the Leak gear to fund the Sugden ( what an amp - but not taking away from the Leak set-up and yes I would recommend Leak and in Walnut its a perfect match for the Lintons - it oozes that retro vibe - enjoy and greetings from Ireland
Does the Sugden sound better, out of curiosity?
@@dextercool the A21 Sugden is in another league compared to the Leak 130 - but it's not a fair comparison IMO - and I won't in anyway take away the performance of the Leak 130 - but the Sugden is stunning at the price point - no bells or whistles / just a chunk of heavy class A performance
@@ramblinginmeath4950 sounds lovely’
The 130 is class D crap, the 230 is better
Before you invest even more money in new electronics, do yourself a favour and invest in your room acoustics. You'll be impressed.
Houses for mere mortals in the UK are tiny. No point in wasting money “improving” room acoustics because as I said it is small and cramped.😂 You just have to settle on what you have.😊
How far you sitting listning to the speakers ?
@@pinkypoohable
You can improve the amount of reflections.
Oh my! They are the perfect pair of speakers! I wanna do a pair my self like the ones SoundBlab did recently, but man... that will take me half a year.... Those B&W sounds like razor blades! Trash! But you can always mod the crossovers in'em! ;)
And yes, the Lintons are 900 pounds better, because the 606s will keep setting you back, buying other pickups for the turntable, modding the speakers, buying a better amp and so on until you get deaf because it was the speaker all that time. ;)
...or get APO EQ on your PC and use them for that.
Bloody love those Linton's! Congratulations
In your opinion, what would be the ideal size for Wharfedale Elysian 1 columns?
Wharfedale recommend a height of 476mm.
I run my Lintons with the Yamaha a-s2200, and they sound great! Was a huge improvement over my old integrated (Wyred4Sound mINT). The class AB Yamaha, blows away the class D mINT.
This may have been mentioned, but I now think that I have found the ultimate tool to take off my Linton grills...a CD that you don't like. Try it!
For the price....exeptionale good allrounder👌🙂
Don’t use metal spoons or knives taking the grill off from the speaker because it is hard and could ruin the edges. Use PLASTIC Door Clip Panel Trim Removal Tool Kit. The ones that they use in Halfords for dash camera wire installation. It’s a handy little kit perfect for the job.
I've used a well worn paint scraper to get stubboorn grills off cheap HT speakers Concept 4 MK2
I got a stinky vintage Sheepskin coat the other day off Ebay for £50, gives me a nice warm fuzzy feeling as well....
How does it sound?
Ba-a-a-rley hear it.@@UTILITARIANTVUK
Can't pull the wool over your eyes!
Wonderful speakers!
A speaker with relaxed top end is just so much easier to live with. Any speakers that land here sooner or later I end up soldering resistors to the tweeters. Usually to great effect bringing out midrange and warmth. Often midrange is drowned in u-shaped treble and in-room bass boost. As well as creating a, to my ears natural top end as real life doesn't have boosted treble either. Does it?
Unless you have significant hearing damage of course. Then get the brightest speaker you can and I think this is also why so much "high end" audio is unbearably bright. By the time you can afford it you are deaf.
Haha.. thats best explanation for hi end I heard..
You look like me Marty I’m waiting for a Arram SA10 to arrive early birthday present come on Royal Mail dead jealous of those speakers
Can you tell me which one is better, mahogany and walnut?
I guess it's a matter of taste. I went for the Walnut.
@@UTILITARIANTVUK Thank you for your answer. 🌷
WHAT a silly question!
@@supergrissi Different woods have different sounds.
@@jasmine-nu5ip Except we're talking veneer!
I'm 2 channel all the way when it comes to just listening to my music. I do have a home theater system as well in my living room. But when it comes to music, 2 channel & nothing more! I have a Sony STR DH 190 & it does the job for me. It has a phono input. Great show btw buddy. 🤘🏻
Same here. But I did commit blasphemy in the games room.
Hafler surround decoding.
When you're fed up with them Mart, give us a shout and I'll pop down and pick them up... Just up the road from you... 😉They sound very nice. I think it's about time you got some carpet down though. Makes a big difference. Cracking sound comparison too.
You may be waiting a while before I get bored. 😄
..... I can wait. I'm very patient.@@UTILITARIANTVUK
Something magic happens when you add a sub, even if your speakers are full range
Something magic happens when adding a Subwoofer, yeah magically get a sudden knock on your door, from neighbours, telling you to turn it down
They’re lovely Marty, bigger enclosure, better aesthetics. Much warmer deeper vintage sound. Even the stands look premium,spot on 👌👌listened to your sound test using my QC35’s and the difference was amazing. very nice. Albeit a little pricey,for me anyway🤣but you get what you pay for. #Fact. 🤣😬😬💪💪
Glad you are one of the sensible ones and use headphones. You'd be surprised how many people listen on their phone speakers and tell me there's no difference!
Do either of you gentlemen have recommendations for decent headphones that are less than or about $200?
I don't have any at all except Bose earbuds which are amazing but really uncomfortable for listening more than 10 minutes.
@@UTILITARIANTVUK 🤣🤣yeah I know mate people just don’t use their brains sometimes. 🤦♂️Lots of keyboard warriors to Mart. Mate, your vids are great, always look forward to them. Appreciated all the hard work that goes in to them to. 💪💪🙏✨👍
The 606’s sound very good but, the Lintons when used were imo the better speakers all round.
Can you tell the sound difference between them and Dali oberon 5
Thank you
Lintons were a little better.
Las Linton agradecen una buena amplificación, son agradecidas con bastantes Watios y de calidad, a mejor amplificación se nota mejora en el sonido.
How does these compare with your Dali Oberon 5 ?
The Lintons can dig a little deeper and have a warmer sound. If I had to choose, I would go for the Lintons but I wouldn't say one is particularly better than the other.
@@UTILITARIANTVUK Thank you. I actually rock and Dali Ob 5 and quite pleased/rather surprised with how it sounds in such a small form factor
did you re-run room calibration on the yamaha?
I don't have the Yamaha any more.
yeah but at the time, did you? could cause the speakers to sound bad if the ypao wasnt set up for the new units thats all.@@UTILITARIANTVUK
I have the lintons with the Quad 405-2 and 34 pre amp sounds great better than my leak 130 Go for leak 230 or the rega elec r and you will happy
Hey. You remind me so much of Cross Hair character from Star Wars: Bad batch
They're the real home audio speaker.
Very nice speakers 👍
My wife bought a pair of wharfedales back in 1992.
Her bloody niece or nephew broke the tweeters with naughty fingers..........
I replaced them a few years ago with ones from a free pair of speakers
What model were they?
@@manFromPeterborough diamond IV
Very nice speakers! If you want to remove the grilles more easily, I’d use nylon trim removal tools (or similar ones from phone tool kits). Also, regarding the tweeters, sometimes, depending on your room and your preference, you can try switching the left and right speakers.
Shoddy cabinet construction and cheap crossover electronics. The angle trim around the face edge causes diffraction. Why did they do this? Shouldn't sound quality trump looks? Build a better box and upgrade the crossover caps and you have a pretty good speaker.
C'mon Tom, this is the second time on this channel that you've mentioned this? You don't even own a set so how do you know? This sounds like it's straight out of Danny's 'buy my upgrade kit' playbook.
Are they meant to be on axis, i see you have them off.
B&W recommend them being toed in.
two credit cards, held together as a lever and work your way round.. and off it comes.
BOTH hands on your shoulders? Nice review. You can just use your credit/bank card to pry the grilles off.
Made in UK ?
Me or the speakers?
leak amp migt look (back of the amp) and sound almost like a quad venna II amp
Sorry. Aber bassreflexrohre gehören in die Front eines Lautsprechers. Das macht vieles in der Positionierung einfacher.
The base on the B&W drowns out the midrange and tweeter.
Linton has moor basebbut booth speakers sound well. 👍
how good it was all had the same wood finishes
Use 2 credit cards stacked to pry off the grills
I accidentally bought a pair yesterday. It honestly was an accident, unless my subconscious made me press complete purchase.
I'm probably going to accidentally buy the Leak 230???? 😄
Faith no more FOREVER )))
AV receivers never sound good in two channel stereo. I know that’s gonna upset a lot of people an amp and a chip just doesn’t produce a nice signal for two channels stereo and to be honest, their power ratings, always peak power output, a very rarely in RMS, so the power you think you’re getting for your speakers is not what you’re getting dedicated two channel stereo ample always sound better
6 ohms use more power form you amp or AVR. If you're AVR has a bit more power you should be okay. If you're going to get the grills off use a credit card ie loyalty card and gently lever it from the top. Otherwise you can damage the veneer. But they are a very nice sounding speaker.
Wharfedale are you listening..................MAGNETIC GRILLS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
...Lintons could double up as a phone box for Warwick Davies...
Too big for Warwick, he'd get lost!
@utilitarian I would give it a go on the 8 ohm setting. The lower ohm setting on receivers simply cuts the current allowed to go through the transformer. This kills power and headroom. Always keep the AVR in the 8 ohm setting. It will not hurt the AVR. Audioholics have a few articles and videos on this topic. ua-cam.com/video/E2QLwunNKL0/v-deo.html
I set it to 6 ohms as it didn't sound great on the 8 ohm setting. It didn't really make any difference to the sound. Gene knows his stuff!
Use a crefit card to remove the grill.
I meant credit card
You can remove the covers with a credit card.
Not my taste. The went back to the dealer and I get Harbeth.
Got any Black Sabbath ..🤘
Faith No More do a great cover of War Pigs!
@@UTILITARIANTVUK will have to check that out 😋… lovely speakers.. would be top of my list if I was out for a new pair.. I’m running a pair of PCM FB2i …a good twenty years old .. wonder there stand up to the Linton ..
606 a little brighter and hollow sounding bass
You need a carpet on the floor or a wooden floor
I also need a second job to afford it. 😄
lintons all day long
Use a credit card to remove the grills!
Not good speakers, I sold mine again after two months
I guess it's either a matter of taste or a case of equipment matching. I absolutely love mine.
What did you end up buying? I m playing mine now
@@UTILITARIANTVUK I have Audiolab 9000A and tried with my friends Musical fidelity amp, I think they are much overrated
@@nasdkhan254 I have trying many speakers, but love mine Quad S2 and use a homemade subwoofer whit to 8,5"
Scanspeak in sealed cabinet
The bmw's sounded better to my eyes
There's a lot to pick apart here 😄
B&W
No, the aren‘t.
Credit Card