Marco Pantani and the Tour De France 3 of 3

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[@2394098234509]

"A desperate ending for a man who, for one brief moment, held the whole world in his hands."

[@palmer3977]

He was set up by the people who control cycling, Lance was allowed to succeed while taking EPO while Marco was exposed as a doping cheat for doing exactly the same as all the other contenders, sorry to burst your bubble but that's the truth, they were all doping & still are, they have to only now its different substances.

[@robertlund5694]

His choice , luckier than many.

[@leonardofabbri7930]

@@palmer3977 100%. and Marco was the best climber, the most spectacular rider and the one will forever hook people to the sport, no matter the level of doping.
The entire field knew and still knows that.

[@lucacapozzi6972]

@@palmer3977 Armstrong il più grande drogato di sempre a voluto la morte di Pantani!

[@lucacapozzi6972]

No ! Pantani is good man ! Now there are open the pocess of jistice ! And Armstrong was and he's the best drugs man of all time ! PANTANI IS THE BEST GRIPPER OF ALL TIME !

[@danfuerthgillis4483]

Pantani with the yellow tires looking slick always liked the tire colours on his bike. A climbing legend no doubt.

[@diossmor1486]

veo y releo todo lo que marco pantani a participado y llego a la conclusión de poder afirmar que estamos ante el mejor escalador en bicicleta de todos los tiempos.. inclusive ,han pasado más de 13 años de su muerte y más nadie a subido el Alpes Des, juez ,,36.50 , más rápido que él..,,,, gracias pantani por el valor,la fortaleza y lo espectacular de la emoción...

[@georgegilles9008]

A true champion.

[@cgbull1598]

The music made the Armstrong vs Pantani climb that much more legendary. OMG!

[@StradaDiAmore]

Arma trono drogadicto miserable

[@jerzyhorczyk7283]

Tragic...what a legend Marco!Lance as always on his favourite turbo EPO....another doping legend!!!

[@emanuelpacheco8809]

Grande Pantani!!!

[@davidemarra9781]

Still pantani was and remain the best...

[@joegugg4129]

Pogacar is faster and he is not doped

[@francoislaurent1600]

Pour moi marco pantani etait un grand champion qui est parti trop vite.

[@ValerioSimoncini]

C est ça !

[@michaelhazell1642]

Marco Patani sorry you are gone RIP

[@lippuarabiwiggiibnfredutak4269]

happy birthday Marco

[@danielhobgen6146]

Lance definitely gifted him that stage win. Lance kept looking around for Pantani instead of focusing on himself.

[@thesoultwins72]

+Daniel Hobgen How do you know this? Are you Lance Armstrong's personal confidant? Could it be LA was looking round to see when Pantani would open up his sprint for the victory? Clearly, you know absolutely nothing about cycling to make such an idiotic claim.

[@thesoultwins72]

+1AmericanInAsia Wow - when did you learn to READ?!? (both these points were made in Phil Ligget's commentary ''Mr anally-retentive'!) FYI - I was on Mt Ventoux in 2000 and actually saw the finish, and take it from me, there was no such gesture from LA. I would also argue that the very last person on this planet you would ever imagine giving anything away, is Lance Armstrong! Pantani was TEN times the climber that LA was and proved this completely on the Ventoux stage of the 2000 TDF. He was constantly dropped and yo-yoing off the back throughout the stage - but managed to fight his way back up to the lead group. He then attacked repeatedly before finally getting away.The thing you don't realise from this video is just how incredibly strong the winds were that day (in excess of 100kph) and the fact that the temperature was hovering at just over 1 degree centigrade. Pantani being a much slighter rider than LA would have been at a positive disadvantage - and this again illustrates how good a climber he was. The vast crowds went wild when Pantani crossed the line first - Lance Armstrong like most Americans is disliked intensely by the French and most Europeans for that matter! (I could relate a story to I witnessed on another stage to demonstrate this where typically arrogant Americans ignorant of cycling etiquette made complete idiots of themselves!)Pantani was (and still is) my hero and I had the privilege of actually riding alongside him (and his Mercatone team) as they rolled out to the start line in Dublin during the 1998 TDF. To be fair, and despite NEVER returning a positive dope test - we all now know that he was 'on the juice' - but then so was ''Big Lance'' and you can bet LA had the better doctors and more powerful choice of drugs!Finally, as with most of your other comments - Pantani's depression DID NOT begin when he broke his leg. (where do you get these bullshit 'facts' from?!?) His depression started in the aftermath of his expulsion from the 1999 Giro d'Italia, as he was convinced (along with his family and close friends) that it was a conspiracy against him. Now get back in your box muppet ok.

[@stevecooper7038]

+TheSoulTwins I was actually on the motorbike behind Armstrong & Pantani during the last part of the climb - take it from me, Armstrong definitely gifted the stage to Pantani.

[@thesoultwins72]

LOL...I was inside Lance's left sock and therefore know that he absolutely did NOT 'gift' the stage to Pantani!

[@treygray2817]

TheSoulTwins Lance along with the entire US Postal team has a blood transfusion the night before Ventoux. Hamilton and Livingston, used the boost to shell out the leading group on the climb. It looked so unnatural even Ligett exclaimed "what is going on here?" The best cyclists on the planet were being dropped by doms! Pantani was on a far inferior program and was still a match for Armstrong after clawing his way back to the leading group

[@claudiaauerdike5063]

Music choice is great !!!

[@jacsonborges7215]

FOI ESSA CORRIDA Q ELE ENTROU EM DECLÍNIO 👍😎

[@lucacapozzi6972]

Pantani the best gripper of all time!

[@martywild8200]

Tragic, RIP Marco.

[@JimmyjimmyJimmyjimmy-ih3yd]

Legendary footage,

[@sinoyanoseriaunguiro5689]

Mercatone por Pantanii fue la fama del equipo

[@fernandog.aguirre2791]

Never easy to stay on top of the world......

[@zeculi]

Marco Pantani, Charly Gaul y Bahamontes, en ese orden los mejores escaladores de la historia

[@HenkvanHooff]

Numero uno!!!!

[@jasco8497]

armstrong, the greatest son of a bitch in all sports history! he pushed his team mates to take doping and had the courage to deny everything until the very end.

[@erikistiyanto3286]

R.i.P pantani

[@MrMarcusirish]

I mean just look at LA face on the Hautacam...he's not even suffering...wtf!!

[@robertlund5694]

You don't cycle right ?

[@alvmusic4402]

You could tell the man was suffering, even when he was on top of the world

[@Henuman]

It never gets easier, you just go faster

[@robertlund5694]

With his own demons !

[@philipbarrett3151]

Phil seems to be surprised that Pantani took offense to being called elephantini (tiny elephant) which was intended to be an insult about his protruding ears? Then again, Phil seemed to be pretty oblivious to much of what was going on around him at the time.

[@alexlintern9779]

Armstrong, Pantani & Ullrich - an unholy trinity!

[@robertlund5694]

True

[@leonardofabbri7930]

Still wearing his bandana. The one and only bandana.

[@luckyapple2655]

Competing at the very edge of their limits!
Yeah, sure. With the mighty one's help. Her majesty. Mr. EPO!

[@robertlund5694]

What does epo do ?

[@transculturalcommunicators]

I really liked your video.

[@nomeknda]

Thanks!

[@gregau88]

back when cycling was great...

[@TheFarmanimalfriend]

If you take performance enhancing drugs to win? What have you won?

[@alvmusic4402]

if you win against competitors who are taking just as much if not more substances, then you win exactly what you fight for

[@sinoyanoseriaunguiro5689]

Capion en el Giro Italia Marco Panta Nii

[@icedbannanas]

"Both men were competing at the very edge of their limits".....then the camera turns to Lance and he isn't even breaking a sweat!! Crazy. Hindsight makes it all look so obvious.

[@Joseminario]

@Chris Indermuehle I question that. He beat all those dopers by far and made it look too easy. He was on something else they didn't have doping wise.

[@alvmusic4402]

@Chris Indermuehle of course. while the substance can improve the performance by 8% max (do your research or ask performance doctors about this data) and these athletes do have a top notch team, they get chosen for the job because they are the best of the best. just look at their bodies, it's literally all engine. And they won't dope all the time every race but just peaking for a few stages that are really necessary. while doping obviously helps a lot, you don't do it on any athlete and just win like it's too easy.

[@Joseminario]

@Chris Indermuehle There's no reason to look into it. We all know what happened. Stop defending the guy just because you happened to be born in the same country. It's not just about doping but also corruption, he got caught twice and they looked the other way because it was "good for the sport" otherwise he would have been DQ'd in his first tour win and later banned for life after 2001 tour de Suisse

[@Joseminario]

@Chris Indermuehle you're missing the point. The reason he won all that he did was due to corruption. He got caught twice by 2001. End of game, lifetime ban. And of course I hate the guy, he was a bully and a thug, my question is why don't you hate him? People like him should be spit on not worshiped.

[@Joseminario]

@Chris Indermuehle no other doping story had his level of corruption, give me an example of any other cyclist that bought the UCI, wada, etc. Again, you are defending a bully and a thug and the only reason I see u doing that is that you are from the same country. U do realize he won and not u. Him winning doesn't make u a winner, just saying.

[@srfh2]

Thinking out loud......Do you think LA told UCI to go after Pantani?????

[@Joseminario]

Could be, he did it to Tyler Hamilton

[@braves5696]

Lance didn’t have his powers yet he was barely anybody in 1998 before his first win

[@robertlund5694]

The LAPD?

[@robertlund5694]

@@braves5696 he was known in the US.

[@braves5696]

@@robertlund5694 by cycling fans yeah

[@totalrepawns]

1 man was juiced up to the ears in that final climb the other 1 was Pantani

[@shane-irish]

Both were

[@jettz8571]

@@shane-irish nope. Amstrong was like 150%

[@sinoyanoseriaunguiro5689]

Líder Marco Pantanii de Tour de Fracie

[@cg-xt6xk]

Pantani worl champion

[@ga8team]

Armstrong 100% gave Pantani the win

[@ValerioSimoncini]

🏴‍☠️

[@sinoyanoseriaunguiro5689]

Y gananr en el Puerto altuets de Fracia el puerto más duro del Ciclismo mundial

[@Plasmo20]

Someone made the comment that he became addicted through the pain killers given as a result of some significant injuries he had, presumably from a crash. Not sure about the info, just sharing.

[@mitchellsteindler]

Not sure what pain killer leads to cocaine addiction. Usually pain killers are depressants and lead to addiction of opiates.

[@robertlund5694]

He was decending years before and the police had opened the course to traffic and pantani collided with a vehicle breaking many bones and a lengthy hospital stay so very plausible yes.

[@wescheslak9408]

I 100% believe Lance “gifted” Elephantino that win.
Lance toyed with him the whole way. At that stage, Elephantino was week, fragile, and timid. Lil Bebe Scarface Elephantino.

[@AdrianoBernese]

Armstrong doping ! Pantani Champion

[@sinoyanoseriaunguiro5689]

Buen equipo de Arostea de la época

[@jimlayhey1965]

i dont think marco was doping here but we all no that armstrong was doping

[@robin1997LoL]

He was doped, u can googlet it. They took urin from 1998 and doing a new test in the year, he was positiv. He was one of 18 positives guys

[@jhwhthemerciful]

Why arent the other guys following the racing line like lance? 5:23

[@leonardofabbri7930]

there was a lot of headwind in that point of Ventoux without vegetation, they probably forced to follow a specific line to avoid or limit it. Meanwhile Lance went out and was exposed, cause he launched his progression to catch Marco again

[@derekhenderson1730]

Lance Armstrong ! the new saviour of the tour ?? what a cringer that turned out to be.

[@floriank6521]

Haha!

[@robertlund5694]

Someone has to carry the momentum at any cost!

[@eddie95ee]

I don't care what kind of drugs you got.you still have to have talent to get up ventoux. Both great riders. Buy I'll give it to pantini as the better climber.

[@joshiek7839]

I rode up the 21 bends of alp duez on my 17kg mountain bike. Do I get a prize?

[@MyDemon32]

@@joshiek7839 did you do it in half an hour? If not is noth worth it.

[@robertlund5694]

@@joshiek7839 no!

[@robertlund5694]

All these haters are non competitive cyclists , noobs or keyboard warriors. They have no idea!

[@joshiek7839]

@@robertlund5694 that’s a projection. Keep worshiping your sacred cow. We all know it was rotten on the inside.

[@jds6206]

"For the moment, I just want a little respect".....no, nessun rispetto

[@adityagupta101]

07:30 ah the good old days of drug fuelled cycling competition

[@ivok9846]

we will, quite literally, never know what these men were capable of...heh

[@robertlund5694]

Always doping and cheating in cycling, beginning, middle and now. Its called human nature.

[@eder2912]

this is after lose the giro 99, after that pantani is overwheig and take drugs cause his depresión. this battle is not ecual, if this battle take place in 98,99,97,94 pantani were eat for breakfast the doper amstronq, everybody know it !!!!

[@alvmusic4402]

pantani was depressed before, during and after that Giro. the fact that he got caught only accelerated the inevitable but he was known to be in a permanent melancholic state.

[@sinoyanoseriaunguiro5689]

Biaci por Marco también El pirata le dio Fama a Biaci

[@shane-irish]

Epo in play

[@robertlund5694]

Explain off the top of your head the benefits of epo.

[@MrMarcusirish]

It's rich of Phil Liggett, the LA fanboy who never questioned the biggest cheat and liar cycling has ever known, Pantani was a pure climber, but also a cheat-he was responsible for what he put in his body for sure, but he didn't deserve the end he got-karma I guess if Marco is looking down on his rivals now-sport really isn't worth dying for...

[@cirogiacobelli8700]

informati prima di parlare. ricorda che il carma vale anche per te.

[@mhoppy6639]

I feel the same way about Liggett abd his co - driver guy. They were both committed LA kissers and it took a long long long time for them to speak sensibly after the huge sporting fraud that Armstrong committed unravelled in front of the world. The ferocity o LG the denials. The aggressiveness if the attacks on legitimate questioners. The ruination of Greg lemonds business. All unforgivable.

[@robertlund5694]

It's distasteful the way it is worded.

[@poly_hexamethyl]

6:35 "Both men were competing at the very edge of their limits." Well, I think Elefantino was a bit closer to his limits than Pharmstrong was....

[@paolotroiani3624]

Hero

[@sinoyanoseriaunguiro5689]

Y el sillin Italia con la esclusivo para El Pirata

[@markodoherty2939]

Armstrong defo gifted him that stage .Armstrong could have won that Stage handy ,he was hardly breaking a sweat full of drugs obviously

[@accobra383]

Great but so many f'ing adverts!!!

[@philgez]

Look at LA’s face he defo gifted him

[@Criscross292]

Juiced against juiced.

[@jettz8571]

Pantani never juiced at the level of Amstrong

[@Criscross292]

Jett Z85 Thats true... because you yourself were there and measured the results of both of them multiple times.

[@robertlund5694]

Orange juice

[@sinoyanoseriaunguiro5689]

Al psarle los talones A Lases Astrong

[@doingit66]

It looked like lance could of dropped him imo

[@sinoyanoseriaunguiro5689]

Pero Pantanii iso sufrir A Léase Astrog

[@paulelliott6894]

such bullshit. pantani was tearing the road up. and, truth is, if pantani had had a great day on stage 16, he would have won the tour. he took a chance and gave it his all. so he got reeled in. so what? he had a chance to tear the tour apart, and he took it. this analysis of pantani on this stage is bullshit. he had won two mountain stages and was feeling quite well. damn, he could have held back and just attacked on the final climb and maybe got a podium in paris. that was not pantani...he went for it on this stage and if he had a great day would have taken the tour. yes, i am sure lance was holding back at times in this tour knowing the mistake pantani made in giro 1999, but pantani was doing well and gave it his all on this stage.

[@mitsuhiron9569]

ヤン　ウルリッヒ

[@hakapeszimaki8369]

Armstrong......"

[@pierogiannese2483]

La camorra ha fatto perdere il giro alterando le analisi per scommesse.