I'm fairly new to DCT. My 2021 Honda Talon had it, and it worked really well in harsh Offroad envrionments. Recently my buddy left his 2018 Gold Wing with me while he makes arrangements to move from the east coast to the west coast (where I live) I've taken his bike out several times, and really really enjoyed the DCT transmission on that GW. While I'm not quite ready to settle down into a GW, I did just pick up a 2024 Honda Africa Twin with DCT. I have to say I love that DCT transmission after 40 years of owning and riding motorcycles, I'm getting tired of shifting -- lol
I’m on my 5th DCT bike and have owned all generations. It’s an ingenious and brilliant clutch and a Godsend to riders like myself who for whatever reason, can’t manipulate a manual clutch lever! With over 200,000 miles on DCT, not one single failure has occurred. THANK YOU HONDA! Oh, and a shout out to Yamaha’s YCCS, and the FJR 1300 AE, my first touring bike. Getting back on a motorcycle saved my life! Ride safe everyone.
Do you still need to operste the clutch? What about rev matching?
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no, when you select drive mode its disengage all clutches and switch first gear like your manuel transmission by electronic transmission select motor. and when you rotate throttle then its engaging first clutch. and its preparing(selecting) second gear for second clutch and wait for the get enough speed. also its engaging second clutch to second gear for increase speed. when doing this its preparing for next gear and selecting thirth gear for first clutch and waiting for the get enough speed. and all circulation working like this. basically think. you have a manuel motorcycle and have a two clutch. one clutch is for 1,3,5.gear and second one is for 2,4,6. and think you have two gear shifter pedal. and you are driving first gear and when you want to switch second gear you need to activate second clutch and disengage first clutch and change the first clutch gear to third gear for the next move. i hope you can understand my english.
my 2018 goldwing dct is an awesome bike. Been riding over 30yrs. Out of the sportbikes now and sick of shifting. Nothing like it , especially in city traffic
It's annoying that this part is seldom explained. They only talk about the strictly mechanical part. In the case of Honda's DCT (and most DCTs), it's a computer-controlled mechanism.
See explanation from 2004 for Volkswagen DSG transmissions and the Mechatronix unit inside that controls clutch engagements and gear engagements, and various shifting mapping software algorithms.
I think there is something wrong with this video. When starting out in first gear, second gear is already engaged. When you shift from 1st to 2nd only the clutch moves, not a gear mechanism. Once the clutch has engaged for 2nd gear the 1st (odd) gear clutch now engages third so this is where the mechanical gear change occurs. But once you are in 2nd and ready for third and change gears again, only the clutch moves as 3rd gear has already been selected. ua-cam.com/video/UfyyBQUsMLI/v-deo.html
@@Bryan11210 That is my understanding. If you are accelerating in 3rd gear it assumes you will want fourth and makes that change. If you are decelerating it assumes you want 2nd and will make that change instead.
Can we see what happens when the rider's practising slow speed maneuvers, dragging the back brake? Why do the clutches wear out so quickly when doing this?
As Honda is classing normal slow speed maneuvers that you can do on any normal manual bike as "abuse" & refusing to fix or replace the clutches that are burning out doing slow speed stuff, I would say wait until they've fixed them before buying a DCT bike.
This has existed in motorcycles for over a decade by the time you posted this. And in cars, for two decades at a production level. The idea has existed since the 50s
I'm fairly new to DCT. My 2021 Honda Talon had it, and it worked really well in harsh Offroad envrionments. Recently my buddy left his 2018 Gold Wing with me while he makes arrangements to move from the east coast to the west coast (where I live) I've taken his bike out several times, and really really enjoyed the DCT transmission on that GW. While I'm not quite ready to settle down into a GW, I did just pick up a 2024 Honda Africa Twin with DCT. I have to say I love that DCT transmission after 40 years of owning and riding motorcycles, I'm getting tired of shifting -- lol
I’m on my 5th DCT bike and have owned all generations. It’s an ingenious and brilliant clutch and a Godsend to riders like myself who for whatever reason, can’t manipulate a manual clutch lever! With over 200,000 miles on DCT, not one single failure has occurred. THANK YOU HONDA! Oh, and a shout out to Yamaha’s YCCS, and the FJR 1300 AE, my first touring bike. Getting back on a motorcycle saved my life! Ride safe everyone.
Do you still need to operste the clutch? What about rev matching?
no, when you select drive mode its disengage all clutches and switch first gear like your manuel transmission by electronic transmission select motor.
and when you rotate throttle then its engaging first clutch.
and its preparing(selecting) second gear for second clutch and wait for the get enough speed.
also its engaging second clutch to second gear for increase speed.
when doing this its preparing for next gear and selecting thirth gear for first clutch and waiting for the get enough speed. and all circulation working like this.
basically think. you have a manuel motorcycle and have a two clutch. one clutch is for 1,3,5.gear and second one is for 2,4,6. and think you have two gear shifter pedal. and you are driving first gear and when you want to switch second gear you need to activate second clutch and disengage first clutch and change the first clutch gear to third gear for the next move.
i hope you can understand my english.
I still didn't get it. Do we still have to squeeze the clutch and steps up or down the shifter? Or it works like an automatic transmission?
It's automatic. No clutch, no shifter. Seamless power and impossible to stall. I'm 60 and ride a CTX with a DCT six speed. I love it.
It's a manual transmission that clutches for you ,sort of .
I still prefer getting to tell the engine when it's allowed to have another gear
I adore my CTX. Replaced my VTX with no regrets.
my 2018 goldwing dct is an awesome bike. Been riding over 30yrs. Out of the sportbikes now and sick of shifting. Nothing like it , especially in city traffic
Wouldn’t trade my 2017 VFR-X 1200 Crosstourer DCT for nothing. Mighty V4 paired with DCT, thank you Honda!
No explantion of how clutches are engaged on/off?
It's annoying that this part is seldom explained. They only talk about the strictly mechanical part. In the case of Honda's DCT (and most DCTs), it's a computer-controlled mechanism.
See explanation from 2004 for Volkswagen DSG transmissions and the Mechatronix unit inside that controls clutch engagements and gear engagements, and various shifting mapping software algorithms.
I think there is something wrong with this video. When starting out in first gear, second gear is already engaged. When you shift from 1st to 2nd only the clutch moves, not a gear mechanism. Once the clutch has engaged for 2nd gear the 1st (odd) gear clutch now engages third so this is where the mechanical gear change occurs. But once you are in 2nd and ready for third and change gears again, only the clutch moves as 3rd gear has already been selected.
ua-cam.com/video/UfyyBQUsMLI/v-deo.html
Say I'm in second, is there a difference in how 3rd is engaged compared to 1st? Like it constantly predicts which gear I might need?
@@Bryan11210 That is my understanding. If you are accelerating in 3rd gear it assumes you will want fourth and makes that change. If you are decelerating it assumes you want 2nd and will make that change instead.
Nice explanation, thank you for uploading it!
What is the advantage of DCT over the quickshifter ?
😊 DCT up and down shift smoother
Can we see what happens when the rider's practising slow speed maneuvers, dragging the back brake? Why do the clutches wear out so quickly when doing this?
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Honestly, i thought at first honda DCT are like those bikes common in southeast asia
Centrifugal clutch and a normal clutch
As Honda is classing normal slow speed maneuvers that you can do on any normal manual bike as "abuse" & refusing to fix or replace the clutches that are burning out doing slow speed stuff, I would say wait until they've fixed them before buying a DCT bike.
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Great! More weight, more complicated and more expensive - for what? A dying off combustion engine.
Milking a cow, are we?
unbreakable things do not bring additional money
You sound like a skateboard or scooter enthusiast. The rest of us can afford nice toys with nice gearboxes.
@@feloniousmonk3049 ...and you sound like a perfect consumer! Good luck to you.
This has existed in motorcycles for over a decade by the time you posted this. And in cars, for two decades at a production level. The idea has existed since the 50s
You try having a Filipino girlfriend, they are a lot more complicated and expensive,