Harley Benton DIY DC Kit | Original vs. 2000€ Mod Comparison | Thomann

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  • Опубліковано 27 лип 2024
  • EDIT* WE HAVE OUR WINNERS! You guys created such incredible instruments for our #DiyKitChallenge, it was beyond impressive and accordingly hard to choose winners, but here they are : tho.mn/DIYkt . Congratulations to you all and to all the participants!
    Getting closer to the finish line of our #DiyKitChallenge Guillaume and Kris compared their original DC build with the upgraded version that went through the hands of our luthiers, some serious upgrades in Guitar Tech Tips and a Hit the Tone Episode. What do you think? Were the upgrades worth it?
    You still got one week to enter our #DiyKitChallenge when this video airs, find all the information here:
    tho.mn/DIYkt
    DIY Kits at Thomann: redir.love/thocf/iygnzolvgx
    Original build: • Harley Benton Guitar B...
    Upgrade video: • DIY Custom Shop Harley...
    Hit the Tone: • Hit The Tone | Won't G...
    We use Triad-Orbit stands for our cameras, lights and mics: tho.mn/triad
    Recorded and mixed with Universal Audio: tho.mn/uadx1
    Monitors optimised through Sonarworks: tho.mn/sonar
    Interesting bits and pieces:
    0:00 Introduction
    3:18 HB modded DIY DC | Playing Clean
    5:17 HB modded DIY DC | Playing Gain
    7:25 Thoughts on upgrading an affordable guitar
    11:09 What did you do to your DIY Kit?
    11:45 Comparison | original vs. modded
    15:39 Goodbye!
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 86

  • @motorrebell
    @motorrebell 3 роки тому +5

    Awesome ! Seems the Harley Benton CUSTOM SHOP is born !

  • @AllanGildea
    @AllanGildea 3 роки тому +9

    Listening to the before and after comparisons I’m very impressed with how good the un-modded budget guitars sound - given the price differential.

  • @overseer_grimal
    @overseer_grimal 3 роки тому +15

    It would be great if Thomann afforded buying a custom Harley Benton guitar based on this kit. Choose whatever parts you want in the shop, choose a simple refinish, name on the headstock and get a custom guitar built by Thomann engineers using parts you have specified in the order.
    Harley Benton guitars are great except pickups, electronics and tuners and I would like to have better options without a visit to a luthier

    • @bernardo9202
      @bernardo9202 Рік тому +1

      that's the supposed future of marketing and sales, as soon as companies learn that the faster they will become the best in the field, because giving the choice to costumers is what they all want

    • @nym053
      @nym053 Рік тому

      I agree

    • @watnoudan
      @watnoudan 7 місяців тому

      Its called lazy

  • @pswi5735
    @pswi5735 3 роки тому +11

    Never built a DIY kit in my life, but this series has convinced me to take the challenge. Keep up the vids guys!

    • @seanfinnegan1942
      @seanfinnegan1942 3 роки тому +1

      I've got this on its way to me....Cannot wait

    • @michaeltatkiewicz65
      @michaeltatkiewicz65 2 роки тому

      How'd it go ?

    • @pswi5735
      @pswi5735 2 роки тому

      @@michaeltatkiewicz65 to be honest, harder than I expected :D putting it together was not an issue, but I went down the rabbit hole of trying to change the electronics (wasn't the cleanest) and my painting left much to be desired. But in the end I did not submit it because the paint job was not completed, but has been since!

  • @PooNinja
    @PooNinja 3 роки тому +1

    Oooh I’m so excited to see who wins the contests 🤗. Good luck to all you Dream builders, tone tinkerers, kit completers and fine finishers.

  • @CaptainMahone07
    @CaptainMahone07 3 роки тому +4

    Guillaume's world famous "Custom bridge". Legendary XD

  • @sorenahlback
    @sorenahlback 3 роки тому

    I’ve built a HB DIY Strat kit and it was fun, I learned a lot and it turned out to be a guitar I enjoy and play on a lot. The neck is great.
    I’ve upgraded pickups, locking tuners, better tremolo, graphic nut and soldered so one tone control supports middle and bridge pickup.

  • @marcgras9064
    @marcgras9064 3 роки тому

    Love these, guys. Thanks for your interesting and enterteining videos. Love the dB meter BTW.

  • @josephhughes9490
    @josephhughes9490 3 роки тому +1

    Kris,
    Hello guys. Absolutely terrific job on the DIY SG. Sounds good and looks great. I always look forward to your show and am still waiting for my invite..lol. Thomann is amazing and the U S. is waiting for you guys and stores. Great show as always.

  • @madmac66
    @madmac66 3 роки тому

    TONE SOCKS!! Great series can’t wait to see the winners. Definitely want to see this again

  • @mattchurchill
    @mattchurchill 3 роки тому

    The sg guitar sounds great, I'm impressed.

  • @AlexisGuitars
    @AlexisGuitars 3 роки тому

    The double cut sounds great. Is the single cut going to get a similar treatmet too?
    Also, I had a lot of fun doing the DIY challenge. Would be cool for this to be a regular or yearly thing!

  • @stephanematis
    @stephanematis 3 роки тому

    Enjoyed this series. Thank you

  • @nathanmclauchlan5148
    @nathanmclauchlan5148 3 роки тому +1

    I have never built a kit guitar myself, yet at least, want to do it one day though. Have to say, the Lollards p90 style pups, wow they sound amazing compared to the original pups 🤘🎸✌️

  • @ThomasFaller
    @ThomasFaller 3 роки тому +4

    I think we generally underestimate how good a guitar you will get by upgrading (the right) components on an affordable axe. That specific upgrade is expensive mainly - I think - due to the usage of Thomann "plek" service on that particular guitar which costs close to €400.
    I would say that upgrading the pickups + the nut is already making that "SG" a match for a Epiphone.
    Good point also on insisting on the importance of wiring upgrade. A wiring upgrade can go a pretty long way and if you're already swapping your pickups, why not changing the whole electronics anyway.
    Last point is, playing a guitar you made yourself is just a remarquable experience. There's something organic about an instruments you assembled, painted, etc. that even a 3k Gibson won't provide.
    Well done

  • @rodent1412
    @rodent1412 3 роки тому

    Great guitar, great playing

  • @pierlucacignini595
    @pierlucacignini595 3 роки тому

    This guitar speaks.. great! 🎸

  • @davidvanberkel5599
    @davidvanberkel5599 3 роки тому

    Great video man🔥👍

  • @guenterbortz5957
    @guenterbortz5957 3 роки тому +1

    Customizing an affordable guitar is always the only way to get what you personally like to hear! It is unique and your ears are satisfied if done right. No high priced mass product can challenge that, imao.

    • @thewazzaboo9095
      @thewazzaboo9095 3 роки тому +1

      What about customizing an expensive guitar? And what is expensive? I customized my Gibson to my liking...

    • @guenterbortz5957
      @guenterbortz5957 3 роки тому

      @@thewazzaboo9095: Lol - the point is to get something very personal, does not matter at what pricepoint. It has to be a part of you.....

    • @thewazzaboo9095
      @thewazzaboo9095 3 роки тому

      @@guenterbortz5957 its not me who said that an affordable guitar was the only way to go

    • @guenterbortz5957
      @guenterbortz5957 3 роки тому

      Affordable is a personal view of things, depepending on the very own possibilities - lol
      You are right, i did not describe it correctly, sorry for that.
      But i hope you get what i mean. Peace...

  • @overseer_grimal
    @overseer_grimal 3 роки тому +1

    Compare this custom built SG with an original Gibson one

  • @fredmarquis1105
    @fredmarquis1105 3 роки тому

    very awesome guitar kris :D nice work!

  • @Phaidrus
    @Phaidrus 3 роки тому +1

    the tone of the moded guitar is *massive*

  • @HarleyBreakoutGuy
    @HarleyBreakoutGuy 3 роки тому

    Do they have F holes semi acoustic electric guitar like George Benson's guitar?

  • @simpson6700
    @simpson6700 8 місяців тому

    I hope you guys do another DIY event next year, i'll buy a kit regardless though.

  • @kawasexy030
    @kawasexy030 3 роки тому +1

    It’d be fantastic to see you modify some others of the HB DIY kits !!
    I’m looking forward to do them all myself ahahah

  • @ravelitschimo
    @ravelitschimo 2 роки тому

    10:00 drawing from the kids . He is so cute

  • @S3Raziel
    @S3Raziel 3 роки тому

    I really liked the description of a good electric guitar as ringing out very well and having a lot of resonance when played unplugged, would you say that good basses have similar qualities? what unplugged characteristics do u look for in a bass?

    • @ThomannsGuitarsBasses
      @ThomannsGuitarsBasses  3 роки тому +1

      Thanks Moonuel! I look for the exact same thing in a bass as in a guitar when playing unplugged. A relatively balanced tone, shouldn't be too quiet and I want to hear a nice tonal character (some bite, some growl, etc). I've built a p-bass kit for our Julia (bass host here on the channel) and I knew from the first unplugged note, that it will sound great through an amp. You can hear a bit of it's acoustic sound in my video on my own channel. Check it out if you're interested in it. (search for Kris Barocsi) Cheers //Kris

  • @hankrocks7504
    @hankrocks7504 3 роки тому

    A bit time would be good! Just got the ST KIT!

  • @chrisjeneson3763
    @chrisjeneson3763 3 роки тому

    More please 😃

  • @paulmearing9192
    @paulmearing9192 2 роки тому

    My build on my picture
    I fitted mini humbuckers and 500k pots and finished it with satin black.
    Plays great and it’s done a few gigs now one of which at the 100 club in London.
    All the guitar freaks asking questions after the show about what it was etc.
    I love the fact it owns me about £150 all in and my time setting it up and dressing the frets etc and it’s more than good enough to gig with.
    Yes I’d love a PRS but it just goes to show you don’t need ££££ to get out there and play.

  • @ErdemYildirim_
    @ErdemYildirim_ 11 місяців тому

    Comparing with pay vs p90 ???

  • @hearpalhere
    @hearpalhere 3 роки тому +1

    I think it came out wonderful! It sounds and looks great too. I loved when Kris wanted to play "just one chord" with the gain setting and then proceeded to shred for a little while before being willing to hand it over to Guillaume haha! Really telling how fun it must be to play it. Nice job guys!

    • @ThomannsGuitarsBasses
      @ThomannsGuitarsBasses  3 роки тому +1

      Haha! Yeah I couldn't help myself. There are moments when you don't really want to stop playing a guitar... :) //Kris

    • @hearpalhere
      @hearpalhere 3 роки тому

      @@ThomannsGuitarsBasses Nothing wrong with that! Haha :-D

  • @ThomannsGuitarsBasses
    @ThomannsGuitarsBasses  3 роки тому

    WE HAVE OUR WINNERS! You guys created such incredible instruments for our #diykitchallenge, it was beyond impressive and accordingly hard to choose winners, but here they are : tho.mn/DIYkt . Congratulations to you all and to all the participants!

  • @toneelectronix
    @toneelectronix 2 роки тому

    what's a "good quality" cap?

  • @tomfoolery2082
    @tomfoolery2082 3 роки тому

    I hav a guitar that sell for $450 new , iv got tht much in up grades . Able to do it myself and im not getting rid of it. In my case it worked out good .

  • @CaptainMahone07
    @CaptainMahone07 3 роки тому +1

    Again great work guys, love all your videos; I have a request though. I watched about 1500 videos on how to paint a kit, and I'm still not sure... I would LOVE to see an épisode where you show us the proper way to do it ;) Am I the only one ?

  • @markkonns2991
    @markkonns2991 3 роки тому

    I really hope that the Harley Bentley 2K Guitar doesn’t have a warping neck after the coming winter.

  • @mike42356
    @mike42356 3 роки тому

    Guys, please consider offering different tone woods, kits ot parts. 😇 Cheers!

  • @ilmisxx2
    @ilmisxx2 3 роки тому

    The only criticism I have is that you used humbucker sized p90s, should have used humbucker to have apples to apples comparison and now he have... well apples to oranges. The Revv helps getting those big clear and punchy tones too doesn't it? :D P90s are probably my favorite pickups though, if only they were less prone to buzz and microphonics. Maybe fishman should make something p90 flavored with 2 voicings. One more middy, one more scooped with that signature p90 clarity and punch

  • @sch2412
    @sch2412 3 роки тому

    idea for a challenge: modify a stock usa or mexico fender and put it up against a teambuilt :D

  • @ayeapprove
    @ayeapprove 3 роки тому

    From a financial point it doesn't really make sense and you could get 2 used Gibson SG Standards. But it's a nice sounding guitar

  • @Oilid
    @Oilid 3 роки тому

    "Custom bridge"!
    😂😂😂😂😂😂

    • @ThomannsGuitarsBasses
      @ThomannsGuitarsBasses  3 роки тому +1

      Most hilarious part of the building process. Haha! Guil the master luthier! Cheers man //Kris

  • @SpiritDK
    @SpiritDK 3 роки тому

    thanks for talking me out of trying one of your DIY kits, don't want to waste my money, the thought of a DIY project sounded fun but don't want to waste money on something that I need to upgrade out of the box if I want to sound half decent

  • @AndrewAHayes
    @AndrewAHayes 3 роки тому +2

    You need to do some set-neck model kits and maybe a Firebird (Esque) neck-through kit as people are more likely to spend money upgrading LP or SG type guitars if they have set necks as it doesn't matter how much you spend making your kit guitar into a great kit guitar if that guitar has a bolt-on neck it is automatically identified as a cheap guitar by people

    • @JohnShalamskas
      @JohnShalamskas 3 роки тому +2

      American Fenders are bolt on neck guitars and no one seems to mind.... especially when the time comes for a neck reset.

  • @iggyzep7576
    @iggyzep7576 2 роки тому

    «Фрукт- фрукт, сиська- сиська, цветок-цветок. Одинаково, мать твою!» Обожаю этот город!

  • @Steven_SK
    @Steven_SK 3 роки тому

    You don't do this this way to make money. You do it for yourself and you have a special "thing" in mind and you do it because you enjoy it. To be on the money making end then be a Tone Fuchs or something.
    I do have a question guys. So a lot of the guitars I buy I have modding in mind IF... IF the body and neck has all the traits of what I am looking for. Do you ignore the electronics so you get a feel for how far you will go with it to make it your own?
    I just got in my P-Bass kit from Thomann so I am going to have at it as well.

    • @ThomannsGuitarsBasses
      @ThomannsGuitarsBasses  3 роки тому

      Hey Steve, have fun with the p-bass kit! If I have modding in mind, I don't pay too much attention to the hardware or the electronics. I will play the instrument unplugged mostly to get an idea of the resonances, playability and sustain. If there's potential, I will start modding it and upgrading what's necessary. Cheers! //Kris

  • @gospelballer33
    @gospelballer33 3 роки тому +1

    Why aren't there any lefty kits. Lefty's are people too. 🙃🙂😔

  • @pauldncn1
    @pauldncn1 3 роки тому

    Hi guys been to
    The dentist I’ll watch this later thanks

  • @nym053
    @nym053 Рік тому

    Personally I don't think it sounds better upgraded. Maybe a little hotter. And I actually think the original sounds great.

  • @TS-wn3gk
    @TS-wn3gk 3 роки тому

    really want the kit, finally got my paycheck. Sold out😂😭😭

  • @niallpadden
    @niallpadden 3 роки тому

    How about... the DIY "Open" Challenge? Keep it running... just ask those who submit to include "how long, how much time, cost ($ & Euro), then evaluate? Better still... guarantee to "return" all DIY's (if submitted) by Way Of Return. Subject to any and all is agreed upon?

  • @lone-wolf-1
    @lone-wolf-1 2 роки тому

    A guitar, once bought, is forever mine! I will never sell my guitars! Oh well, one of them I made a gift to a very good friend, but I will never sell! Period!
    Don‘t sell any of your guitars, or you will cry!
    So, take your time to decide. Sleep many nights over it, before buying. Make sure it will be the right one, feeling right! Have in mind: the guitar chooses you! Not the other way around.
    If you are at some point later not satisfied with the sound, you still can swap certain parts. If it’s still the less played and just hangs on your wall/stand, don‘t sell it! You will regret it for sure!
    Ten years later you will grab the uggly duck, clean it up, put new strings on it and have a grin from ear to ear and play the crap out of it! 😉😃🤗

  • @marcmuller3429
    @marcmuller3429 3 роки тому +3

    116 db!? OMG which amp is that?😂

    • @ThomannsGuitarsBasses
      @ThomannsGuitarsBasses  3 роки тому

      Haha! It's the REVV D20 head. It's a 20W (!) head... And many still say "one needs at least 50W amps for proper volumes"... :) //Kris

    • @marcmuller3429
      @marcmuller3429 3 роки тому

      Ok😂

  • @nightwishlover8913
    @nightwishlover8913 3 роки тому +1

    Congratulations! 2000 Euros to make an SG sound like a NOT SG!

  • @HuguesDUROIR
    @HuguesDUROIR 3 роки тому

    Laissez nous un peu plus de temps la prochaine fois, merci 🙏

  • @soulagent79
    @soulagent79 3 роки тому

    The bolt-on neck is still the biggest dealbreaker in my opinion.

  • @hargoniyamaki5168
    @hargoniyamaki5168 3 роки тому

    Absurd upgrades.

  • @metallixro
    @metallixro 3 роки тому +7

    2000 bucks upgrade but only a bland uninteresting finish :( missed opportunity, but overall enjoyable project video.

  • @chasea.johnson4437
    @chasea.johnson4437 2 роки тому

    Big fan, you guys is great, love your enthusiasms. But some ID/ID-theory peoples such as myself consider such as hand-crafted knobs, and, how much more, that first fanned-layer headstock to be utterly unenjoyable examples of the #1 DESIGN MISTAKE: OVER-DESIGN. Obviously no time to delve into this very highly nuanced issue, so will just ask: never mind the craft-shop amusements, where is the ultra-obvious Evertune bridge on the different HB kits? Please, please, no one else whom I have found has this oh-so crying issue addressed (given HB kits' lovely crazy-upgrade potentials), and I'M A NEEDY ultra-n00b dying over here.

  • @dezionlion
    @dezionlion 2 роки тому

    G talks a lot

  • @HarleyBreakoutGuy
    @HarleyBreakoutGuy 3 роки тому

    the guitars sounded out of intonation

  • @kmichaelp4508
    @kmichaelp4508 3 роки тому

    No! It’s not worth it!!!!🤐