The Knock Offs Are Starting To Get Out Of Control

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  • Опубліковано 28 вер 2024
  • After the recent ICAST 2023 knock off drama, I decided to weigh in my personal opinions on the matter. Knock offs seem to be getting worse and worse every year with no repercussions being handed to those that are doing the offense. What do you think about knock offs?
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 355

  • @hunterbull7804
    @hunterbull7804 Рік тому +37

    I saw someone who came from money posting about how companies like Deps, OSP, Grow, should have no right to talk about knockoffs because “they should have done better and marketed their stuff better in the United States.” I can’t believe how out of touch that was coming from someone who’s daddy’s money helped them attempt to fish in the opens. I don’t think people realize how hard it is for Japanese companies to become successful. Luckily Ben is helping them massively but they still have no competition against the big box store brands. Completely unjust.

    • @DersABigBuck
      @DersABigBuck Рік тому +1

      A men. I wasn’t going to say that stuff when I commented but I’m glad someone did lol. Fishings about good people going out and having fun to me but to get greedy and to steal someone’s idea is kinda low. Especially when you’re looked up to by a bunch of kids.

  • @NorCalGetula
    @NorCalGetula Рік тому +36

    One Thing that does suck is people sitting online waiting for baits to drop and then taking them to eBay and selling them for 3 times the money... A lot of us don't have time to sit and wait for these swimbaits to drop.

    • @crazybassfisher
      @crazybassfisher  Рік тому +23

      Yeah, that is a huge problem in the swimbait world especially. I just wish fishing was lame again so all the actual fishermen can just get the baits they need and will fish😂

    • @shanevang88
      @shanevang88 Рік тому +3

      ​​@@crazybassfisher'm sure that's not what you wish because places like the Hookup Tackle will cease to exist because REAL fishermen will just go onto sites like digitaka and get actual JDM reels for half the price!

    • @timlawrence7246
      @timlawrence7246 Рік тому +2

      Like everything else, the community that we are in will also exploit it. It’s pretty lame.

    • @secretbassrigs
      @secretbassrigs 11 місяців тому

      Like tickets to a game or concert. Also, collectibles in general. The inspiration comes from their authenticity and unique and valued ability or delivery. Nobody expects to copy a song, or pretend to be someone famous, ...so they can eventually put the original artists/athletes out of business.
      Why would anyone be inspired to produce something from their own Genius ideas and designs, knowing they'll be ignored, unappreciated and forgotten because of them?

    • @secretbassrigs
      @secretbassrigs 11 місяців тому +1

      @@shanevang88 Do you really think the future of retailers like the Hookup isn't put into doubt every time an iconic JDM product gets sold at Walmart??

  • @_bassadd1ct_
    @_bassadd1ct_ Рік тому +4

    I think coming off the Spro x KGB collab, this would’ve been a perfect opportunity for Berkley to show love to a small Japanese brand, help them grow their market and fan base, and put out a cool product in larger quantities so more people could fish the bait. But of course they didn’t because it’s Berkley…

  • @JonJonsOutdoors
    @JonJonsOutdoors Рік тому +4

    The collaboration concept is the way. As a garage maker I call other makers if I like something on their bait and ask for permission to imitate. We need to find someone who can foster the connection between the US and Japanese companies! That is a huge opportunity if we can find that person…. Maybe even a tackle shop?!?! 😉

  • @RAHMX145
    @RAHMX145 Рік тому +2

    The collaborations is a great idea. However, I believe that anywhere there's money to be made, someone with no integrity will shamelessly copy a product and grab all the cash they can. It happens in the software industry all the time. The only way we can speak to these big companies is with our wallets and to refuse to purchase and/or use the products they rip off. That's all I really think we can do.

  • @IonizedOnion3.1415
    @IonizedOnion3.1415 Рік тому

    You’re absolutely right brother. In the recent years I’ve realized how bad of a problem this really is. It’s sad to see true “innovation” and engineering masterpieces disappearing in the fishing industry. I feel the urge to do something and stand up for these small yet extremely innovative companies with very talented bait makers, but like you said there’s not much to do. From a legal standpoint these smaller brands don’t stand a chance against the big corporations lawyers. It just makes my sad.

  • @user-xm8rf6ik7b
    @user-xm8rf6ik7b Рік тому +1

    I’m glad these knock offs are getting as good as they are now . Sick of the prices getting pushed sky high , bait drops and the second hand dealers buying everything up . Piss on you swimbait guys . Most baits aren’t as good as the claims lust like these UA-camrs thinking they are something they are not ! Fishing has changes to this stupid exclusivity competition. That has what’s gotten bad so I’m glad these fools are losing . If you don’t get the product out someone else will !

  • @MultiXMeGa
    @MultiXMeGa Рік тому

    Interesting video. Thanks for shedding the light.

  • @jonboatjake
    @jonboatjake Рік тому +1

    the last bit about ‘what happened to supporting the little guy’ really hit man, it’s so true. people’s morals are fed to them depending on what news or media they consume, they forget how to analyze a situation on their own. i hope most folks can claim ignorance, because if you knew and still rock with it, you’re wack

  • @TwistedTackle
    @TwistedTackle Рік тому

    I’m glad you said something because I literally filmed that bait not even realizing. Now that I’ve gone back and compared it’s obvious.

  • @ryanschembri4139
    @ryanschembri4139 Рік тому +1

    that berkeley cull shad is crazy literally a magdraft 2.0, how is megabass not all over that!

    • @cb5513
      @cb5513 Рік тому +1

      Maybe you should be outraged at Chris Zaldain. He literally took the mold of the magdraft and came out with his "own" swimbait from Bass Mafia

    • @crazybassfisher
      @crazybassfisher  Рік тому

      I think the cull shad is not a knockoff, it might swim similar, but the body, shape and overall design is pretty different. The only thing they have in common is the hook harness, which, that hook harness has been done on a lot of different lures, both Japanese and American

  • @rogermendez7266
    @rogermendez7266 9 місяців тому

    Any Japanese stores to buy from?
    Decent price.

  • @juli82E
    @juli82E Рік тому +1

    Absolutely agree, I would rather buy from the little guy and get a good bait then a knock off that isnt that great( Berkley has done it again this yr, last yr I feel it was the Gilly)... Would love to see more collabs like the Spro/KGB....like in a back gliding bait..Or Damiki Honey nuggets, i love them and catch a lot of fish on them but now their going gone! The struggle us real..

  • @theoutsidewithin9138
    @theoutsidewithin9138 Рік тому

    Hey. At least the baits are now available.

  • @robertpeck7003
    @robertpeck7003 Рік тому

    I agree fully. I have been seeing this over the years. Were there any baits that you think would have or should have won?

    • @crazybassfisher
      @crazybassfisher  Рік тому

      What’s sad is, I don’t remember seeing anything that really caught my eye😂 everything that wasn’t “inspired” by JDM Tackle was just another craw bait, another crankbait, another paddle tail swimbait, like, nothing crazy cool, I might have missed something though. I’m a swimbait guy so I can’t tell what a cool conventional bait would look like😂

  • @JoseMartinez-dq4km
    @JoseMartinez-dq4km Рік тому

    Love the way you speak the truth it is sad to never give credit to the original

  • @hunterfrederick5567
    @hunterfrederick5567 Рік тому

    1000% agree with you. "Inspiration"

  • @liltoasty
    @liltoasty Рік тому

    Imitation is the ultimate form of flattery. In the words of the Realist, "Often imitated but never duplicated". The stealing of intellectual property goes both ways. American companies are impacted by this theft as well (to include American lure producers). The real question you should be asking is why aren't the companies that are impacted making noise? Its probably because its good for business, they get free advertisement from videos like this one. Most people out there, like you exquisitely pointed out, had no clue who made the flag lure or that it existed. I agree with you when you point out the idea of collaboration, but again, that should go both ways. I challenge you to see how an enormous amount of American intellectual property are knocked off by people from other countries as well as Americans. I think you may look at things a little differently. Please DO NOT get Butt hurt!!!! I actually enjoy watching some of your videos..

  • @jamesselman7706
    @jamesselman7706 Рік тому

    Interesting dispute several years ago here in Australia. A large (for Oz anyway) lure producer accused a small garage producer of copying his lures. Absolutely unjustified in this case. Garage lure maker had some of the big company guys lures. So set fire to them and posted a video to facebook. Others jooined in as well burning their lures!😀 Was some very populat viewing and comments at the time!😀 You guys should try it!

  • @edwinro77
    @edwinro77 Рік тому

    They gotta get better distribution. I work at a gun/fishing shop in Eugene OR. There don’t seem to be many options for stocking the JDM brands, so we have to order the Mid-Berkeley/savage etc
    Not too many places to get JDM stuff
    The hookup tackle is my go to
    Also price point is a disadvantage as most people dont like spending the $15-18/lure in our shop, but I would love to have a JDM section to let people see the original versions

    • @crazybassfisher
      @crazybassfisher  Рік тому +1

      You would be shocked at how the Japanese go about distributing and the actual quantities that they are able to make. Let’s just say, the number of quantities they are able to make doesn’t even come close to what demand is. They normally make lures for Japan and Japan only, with Japan bass fishing on the decline, companies just don’t make big numbers

  • @matthewlucas7796
    @matthewlucas7796 Рік тому

    Good video. Not interested in the Berkeley glide but the cull shad has piqued my interest. Being $10 cheaper than the magdraft is nice but the clip on hook instead of the magnet and the honeycomb design makes it innovative enough I don’t consider it a knock off.

    • @crazybassfisher
      @crazybassfisher  Рік тому

      No, the cull shad is definitely not a knock off from the magdraft, completely different lures.

  • @logicalrationalfishing7481
    @logicalrationalfishing7481 Рік тому

    Not sure you have covered it, but another issue is EVERY company making EVERY product. They are just making fuel for the clearance sections. Does every company (especially rod companies) need a reel? If you aren't going to top the current leaders then why do it? I understand upstarts like KastKing trying to offer value, but I have seen Duckett or Ark make reels that cost more than a Curado (which they are no where near).

    • @crazybassfisher
      @crazybassfisher  Рік тому

      “Fuel for the clearance section” 😂😂 haven’t heard that one before. It is crazy how every company is trying to make everything now, I don’t know who buys these new reels either 😂

  • @theastuteangler
    @theastuteangler Рік тому

    The giant corporations have no interest in collaborations, because collaborations mean profit sharing. Why share profit when you can copy and crush the little guy. Nothing new here, this is American mega-capitalism.

    • @Awol187z
      @Awol187z Рік тому

      Crony-Capitalism patent laws here are set up to protect corporations ,while they are sold to the people as if they are supposed to protect the little guy.

  • @codem0de
    @codem0de Рік тому

    It's a problem. There is going to be less incentive to innovate if the baitmaker knows their product is going to get Amazon Basic'd if it's good. I like the idea of collaborations over what companies are doing to these poor bastards. And I think bait makers should be a lot more open to doing them because that is the only middle ground. I don't know how patents work but I'm shocked how little is brand specific these days. How many fucking cover scats are there now? It's getting out of control across the board. Swimbaits are just another symptom of a bigger problem with these companies. 100% agree.

  • @davidsagastume3700
    @davidsagastume3700 Рік тому

    This video needed to be made 🔥

  • @ericahlstrom9506
    @ericahlstrom9506 Рік тому

    Everyone agrees the spro collab with KGB was awesome for everyone. I was hoping that would catch on and be less knockoffs in the future

  • @craigmarshky4602
    @craigmarshky4602 Рік тому

    Absolutely Agree 💯

  • @5.7.0bassin2
    @5.7.0bassin2 Рік тому

    A cpl yrs ago soon as I seen mike Ike over in Japan I knew he was there for one reason to see all the baits that he can feed Berkeley and boom that next yr the hilly comes out and now all these new swim baits and whatever else and what really screws the jdm is the no patents so anyone can rip them off and they can’t do much about it but let a jdm company rip off an American market and look out

  • @ferdinandhuber8774
    @ferdinandhuber8774 Рік тому

    good video and valid points, it doesn't make me want to fish Japan lol

  • @gunnersfishing6986
    @gunnersfishing6986 Рік тому

    Berkley did the same crap with the Sick Fish. Skeet Reese even went so far to say he designed it! Everyone knows it's a Little Creepers Trash Fish. So sad...

    • @crazybassfisher
      @crazybassfisher  Рік тому +2

      I actually heard that Berkeley did indeed collab with the trash fish

    • @gunnersfishing6986
      @gunnersfishing6986 Рік тому

      That's cool. Didn't know. That Skeet Reese though😒

  • @yep.fishing
    @yep.fishing Рік тому

    Berkley knocked off a soft plaatic prawn design thst a small aussie soft plastics maker came up with

  • @B.A.Bassangler
    @B.A.Bassangler Рік тому

    Sorry, don't have time to watch to the end, if you addressed this...uncool of Berkley, could have reached out and done a collab like Spro did.

  • @jeffpickett9730
    @jeffpickett9730 Рік тому

    👍 yep

  • @letun3481
    @letun3481 Рік тому

    Small companies in Japan should spend some money and patent their designs in the US. This way they will be able protect intellectual property... Great topic! Thanks for bringing it up!

  • @SouthJerseyBaitReviews
    @SouthJerseyBaitReviews Рік тому

    I think when u get into the world of swimbaits and small jdm brands u see all the work these guys do to make a unique , innovative lure that hasn't been produced before. To just get copied and then never given any recognition for the smart design or where they got the inspiration from is grimy. Ike and that Berkley designer/ reverse engineer lying thru their teeth to the public like people are dumb is pretty sad not gonna lie. An just shows what these companies really think of the people buying their products. Like they say it's all Cool until it happens to you. Just put urself in these small companies shoes. If u spent thousands of dollars lets say 100K minimum trying to design a large scale production lure and make it a quality bait and then literally not even 2 years after production someone Copies ur design to a T which u cant do anything about it. You would be pissed and anyone who says other wise is full of it.

  • @Glock-1
    @Glock-1 Рік тому

    Look at all the Crush City shit, every one of those are knockoffs

  • @bighashgang1990
    @bighashgang1990 7 місяців тому

    Greed.... that's why

  • @fiSHINsanity
    @fiSHINsanity Рік тому

    They tweaked it just enough to protect them legally. Shameless

  • @ReactionGiants
    @ReactionGiants Рік тому

    What color klash 9 is that bro?

    • @MtnWBassin
      @MtnWBassin Рік тому

      Which one there are 3 in the background

  • @basschaser9356
    @basschaser9356 Рік тому

    People is gona buy the berkeley cause the lower price . Berkeley is basically knocking out all these other companies without giving them credits

  • @slowwll2372
    @slowwll2372 Рік тому +1

    Jacob wheeler was having a hard time defending that dolive beaver rip off his comments were filled with hate love to see it lol

  • @lifeadventures2681
    @lifeadventures2681 Рік тому +25

    Good on you for speaking up brother! We need to stop this epidemic and awareness is the first step.

    • @Teddy-se8qb
      @Teddy-se8qb Рік тому

      i never thought i would see the day. but bass fishermen are being more bitchy than fly fisherman. you guys always have some shit to cry about and always virtue signaling.
      people are gonna keep bass. if its within their legal right. theres nothing wrong with it. people are gonna make knock offs. if its in their legal right. theres nothing wrong with it.

  • @tressbassin
    @tressbassin Рік тому +15

    I gotta give you credit. This is one of the best videos you have ever put out. You can tell that your time with Ben and the hookup tackle has given you a wealth of knowledge and experience. Keep it up.

    • @crazybassfisher
      @crazybassfisher  Рік тому +1

      Ben has given me an inside look on how the industry is run and how businesses run. It’s very fascinating to learn the ins and outs

  • @caseysaunders2137
    @caseysaunders2137 Рік тому +13

    The number of nearly duplicated "new products" at icast was surprising. The Zman copy of the megabass dark sleeper should be a landmark case for patent infringement with a fresh out of school lawyer. Slam dunk.

    • @theastuteangler
      @theastuteangler Рік тому +4

      "capitalism breeds innovation"

    • @KriticullCTRL
      @KriticullCTRL Рік тому

      That zman bait was a clown of a copy. I dunno who the hell would but that over the Megabass. It’s not like they’re hard to get either.

    • @davidgerdes1815
      @davidgerdes1815 7 місяців тому

      Lol

  • @ADKyakman
    @ADKyakman 7 місяців тому +2

    I think you’re right about alot of things like knock offs, but I think you’re wrong about some things .. can’t help that there’s less places to fish in Japan, can’t change the geographical dynamics of the earth. And I can absolutely guarantee you can go in biwa on a day where they’re active and catch “multiple” on American lures they’ve seen, especially reaction lures, I saw kento catch a mondo on a absolute giant plug/ whopper plopper which if you think about isn’t new at all, just cuz it had a giant body I think if he way throwing any other style plopper like a choppo- he’d get bit. I think they maybe just aren’t as like minded about fishing as we are.. I don’t think it I know that’s a fact especially in fishing, and berkley didn’t re create the Flag, they made their own style plastic glide. I don’t see the problem w that, especially if it sucks. I don’t hear Megabass whining about swimbaits- oh wait cuz they weren’t the first either. And your livelihood is selling and marketing their product.. so to come out with this type of content is hypocritical bro, Marketing and lure designing will always be a problem in the fishing industry… at the end of the day fish are fish and we are humans who go fishing.. if Japanese people have such a hard time catching bass maybe they should catch the billion other species they have that grow giant that we DONT have. You’re comparing a tiny island with 5 lakes to USA.. you feel bad for the people I get it… but I don’t think you need to be feeling any of it ..life is bigger than that

  • @anthonyjohnson2364
    @anthonyjohnson2364 Рік тому +2

    Maybe take into factor, not everyone can afford these $75-$750 swimbaits? There's plenty of good reasons to have lower costs for the consumer

  • @BrownBaitCo
    @BrownBaitCo Рік тому +6

    Yeah Geoff I hear ya and agree with you. I hope some of these company's see the success and positivity from the Spro KGB collaboration and follow suite. Most of the lures that come out now are just another square bill or just another craw. Like do we really need another square bill or craw? No we do not! A lot of these company's just see the $$$ and want it, the less hands on the pile of money means more for the few guys that own the company. These company's need to grow up and get with it so we can move the sport forward instead of being stagnant.

  • @bigredbass7898
    @bigredbass7898 Рік тому +5

    Totally agree. The part that gets me is these companies and "pros" have no problem lying to your face and saying its a totally new innovation that they helped develop and its an original idea and they have no problem defending it as that. Its garbage, its embarrasing as an american angler and those "pros" have zero credibility once they do this to the little guy in japan or the us or wherever. We need people with big influence to speak up and stomp this out. People are ruining this sport by money grabs and they could care less.

    • @DersABigBuck
      @DersABigBuck Рік тому +1

      I feel like being a bigger angler like them and calling them all out by name would help lol. The company the baits under too. I’m surprised there isn’t copy right issues with some of this.

  • @dipster14
    @dipster14 Рік тому +2

    I can feel from both sides.. I love swimbait fishing and all but I got bigger priorities that to spend $60, $80, $100+ for a lure that I have a chance of breaking off or losing. If the knock off swims well and gets bit, imma buy it.
    However nothing beats the originals

  • @The_Bass_Stunters
    @The_Bass_Stunters Рік тому +3

    iCast has become trailer park. No offense to those who live in mobile homes. I used to live in one but I traded it for a Megabass Evoluzion white python and a DRT Klash 9.

  • @B3BlueBellyBaits
    @B3BlueBellyBaits Рік тому +6

    Geoff,
    Thank you for making this video.
    I believe that the reason why big companies don't collaborate with smaller bait manufacturers is greed! If they collaborated then they bi companies will have to give some of the money to the smaller companies, which is unacceptable in their mind. They want it all with no exception!

    • @bernjwallace6877
      @bernjwallace6877 Рік тому

      TRUTH. Companies now leave out the smaller manufacturer to collect all the profit.

    • @Teddy-se8qb
      @Teddy-se8qb Рік тому

      welcome to capitalist america buddy. dont like it? go back to where you came from.

  • @paulmctaggart5049
    @paulmctaggart5049 Рік тому +1

    So sad people are being forced to buy the American products and not buy the Japanese products anymore. Oh wait people still have a choice last time I checked.

  • @hydrillagorilla1193
    @hydrillagorilla1193 6 місяців тому +1

    @17:55 😂😂😂 Ole Mikey got caught... should of never posted that vid🐍

  • @kylestokley91
    @kylestokley91 Рік тому +2

    Of course you’d make a video on this🤣🤦🏻‍♂️ SU on FB is blowing up PS this is comment is not FOR all the copied baits. I 100% agree that companies shouldn’t be able to take bait designs from other companies and give no credit to the originals

  • @steveziegler4090
    @steveziegler4090 Рік тому +9

    i love cheap knockoffs saving money is first priority especially if im just gonna ruin it intentionally

    • @Dumbo_Bat
      @Dumbo_Bat 5 місяців тому

      I don’t see a reason why anyone would be so mad about knockoff brands when they work the same way as the original design, though I do understand that knockoffs can steal the spotlight of the originals

  • @SolarfallBaits
    @SolarfallBaits Рік тому +1

    I agree with pretty much everything you said. It’s pretty scummy to so blatantly copy someone else’s hard work and on top of that have a show reward such crappy behaviour with a soft bait of the year tittle. that is just wrong on so many levels. I feel truly bad for the guy at growdesign works.

  • @victorxavier9977
    @victorxavier9977 Рік тому +3

    You definitely have a valid point about companies copying baits and I agree that it would be cool if more American companies did collaborations and both parties would benefit 😁

  • @davidgerdes1815
    @davidgerdes1815 7 місяців тому +1

    This video is a knockoff of the other knockoff videos!

  • @aquiles2375
    @aquiles2375 Рік тому +2

    Isn't Bass Pro almost all knockoffs?

  • @jasoncarr5867
    @jasoncarr5867 Рік тому +2

    Your absolutely right the amount of knock offs you see now a days is ridiculous and it's not only the Japanese companies getting ripped off either it's the small American guys too that make their own lures for example Throwback baits I saw a knock off of his wakewalker the other day on Amazon from a company called BASSDASH everything looked the exact same down to the eyes.

  • @caesarcoloma4631
    @caesarcoloma4631 9 місяців тому +1

    I love this video. I’m against knock offs and will Always support the small business. I have become a fan of JDM products and will continue to support Japanese innovation. 🙏🏽🙏🏽🤙🏾🤙🏾 Thanks for speaking out and creating awareness.

  • @jimb1283
    @jimb1283 Рік тому +2

    I just will never buy Berkeley again. After the Gill Flat and Flag, etc., esp. with the nerve to give these obvious knock offs awards, it is criminal.

    • @Samuel-kz3vo
      @Samuel-kz3vo Рік тому +2

      Oh boohoo you’re really gonna cause their company to crash oh no what will they ever do without your business😢

    • @jimb1283
      @jimb1283 Рік тому

      @@Samuel-kz3vo it is not what they will do without my money, but what I will do with the money I did not spend on Berkley. I will get it all in quarters so that I can watch your mom blow a dog at the local peep show. She usually charges a dime, but I feel sorry for having d'bag children like you.

  • @lukeashoots4463
    @lukeashoots4463 Рік тому

    OK so let me start off with i liked the video and im a subscriber. SO as im watching this video in bed my wife goes..... "but all your baits look the same, all the spinnerbaits and poppers and crank baits, so who copied them?" I pull out 3 spinnerbaits, 2 Japanese and 1 US brand, I ask her "thous don't look different to you?" My wife, a lawyer from NYC, never fished a day in her life says "are you F$#king stupid? That's the same Sh&t" Gave me a good laugh....

  • @MetatronsCube23
    @MetatronsCube23 10 місяців тому

    The american companies are now giant conglomerates, they don't care about fishing except for the money that comes in from it. The best USA lures are manufactured in Venezuela, and are no different than 30 years ago, no new lures or designs. Everything they do is shady.

  • @greglocklear4938
    @greglocklear4938 23 дні тому

    I got 5 kids, & in todays economy ill have to say im definitely leaning more towards a $10 glide than a $50+ glide if you can evem find them in stock anywhere and $75+ for the ebayers who buy up stock.. 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️
    I understand it from both sides .. but hey look at glock there is dozen companies who copy the G19, but in the end there is 1 and only g19... at the end of the day the flagship is still the flagship, we got bigger things to worry about.

  • @TheAverageAngler
    @TheAverageAngler 11 місяців тому

    I will get some hate here. Honestly, if you can produce the baits, I’m going for buy from where I can. It’s not the money to me, it’s can I get the bait I need.

  • @travishanson5512
    @travishanson5512 Рік тому +1

    Why can’t Japanese brands sponsor American pros? I feel like that would be the best way to stay ahead of the trend of knockoffs. But ultimately they would have to prepare for a larger audience and be able to quadruple their production.

    • @crazybassfisher
      @crazybassfisher  Рік тому

      Japanese brands have sponsored American pros, but the Japanese companies that have sponsored the pros can afford/sustain having American pros on the team. Deps, Megabass, Ever Green, Duo Realis etc

  • @ChorizoPig2
    @ChorizoPig2 3 місяці тому

    Anytime the subject of knock-offs comes up, it's so easy read through the comments and pick out the people who have never created anything original or created anything of value.

  • @thecluelessoutdoorsman916
    @thecluelessoutdoorsman916 2 місяці тому

    Those that are mad are just mad they can't gatekeep and sell the baits for a huge markup. I don't see everyone freaking out about using lipless crank baits which were originally designed by Bill Lewis. Or they won't use exclusively Yamamoto stick baits.

  • @holdengamble
    @holdengamble Рік тому +1

    Our whole world has gone to shit. Can’t expect the fishing industry to be any different. Greed is the downfall of us all.

  • @kodawitdasoda_
    @kodawitdasoda_ Рік тому +1

    Too many ppl with followings are scared to speak up bc they might screw up future deals. Shout out to you for calling out the bullshit!

  • @daneharker9040
    @daneharker9040 8 місяців тому

    I respect the fisherman’s point of view and this video but who wants to pay 50-100$ for a soft bait and how can you even justify it ? I’ve been throwing swimbaits for the past 7-8 years and I can justify some glide baits or something that last awhile, but when we’re talking about a bait that could break in half after 4-5 fish then there’s no point at all. May as well sell the bait for a better price originally than overprice it and have people copy and make more money off of a cheaper version. Not trying to be too negative but I think this is somewhat logical ? 🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️

  • @shadybanks8625
    @shadybanks8625 Рік тому +1

    It was good to see y’all at ICOPY but It’s so disappointing to see the blatant copies of other baits and for one to win “best of show” last year was a joke.
    Berkeley really gets their moneys worth when they send Mike Ike to Japan. I guess now Jacob Wheeler is doing it for Rapala. There is no shame.

  • @CustomCraftedConceptsllc
    @CustomCraftedConceptsllc 4 місяці тому

    Well said brother! If we don’t support these guys we will lose the attention to detail and quality and craftsmanship that stands these companies out from all the rest, also it’s about the integrity and the passion that drives these innovative lure makers.

  • @malibumw11
    @malibumw11 7 місяців тому

    Come on guys really, these knockoff vids are getting a little much! what country do you live in? Knockoffs happen every day in every aspect of product manufacturing. When it all comes down to it, it's the money. Manufacturing products overseas (japan, china) and so on are dramatically cheaper to produce. I send some designs of my companies products over there to get manufactured because of the costs. Do you really think Berkley sits on their ass and doesn't do any R&D and just waits for other companies to come out with designs that they can copy? Seriously! I know first hand what its like to have one of your products taken, copied and produced by a larger company. You can't compete! But it all boils down to money and market share. Take these two baits for example, the japan made bait (when you really look and research it) is far superior to the Berkley bait but it costs almost 5 times more. When the marketing researchers on these bigger companies find baits that people really like and want to buy That's MONEY!!! In their minds but they are also targeting the people that don't have the means to buy the high priced baits. That's where all these types of vids are getting way out of hand! Come on guys not all of us can afford to fish with $500+ combos and pay hundreds of dollars for one bait so we appreciate the companies that can bring us baits, rods, reels and so on at a price we can afford. Don't get me wrong, I feel for the small companies (I am one of those guys) trying to design and compete and it's very hard at times but when you do hit it out of the park with a design, there are those groups of people that will indeed buy your product no matter the cost. I really enjoy watching vids and reading columns when you can tell the people really have a passion for what their doing. Hook up tackle is amazing to watch (love the passion in their vids) but Can I afford the $350+ rods and reels, NO but it's nice to see what's out there. So at the end of the day, you guys that are fishing the higher end baits, don't worry the market is still going to thrive and the small manufacture will not be put out of business because the knockoffs are targeting a complete different price point. Sorry for the book.

  • @nolanmorton5401
    @nolanmorton5401 3 місяці тому

    America as a whole sucks. Greed runs the show and ignorance abounds. Please keep spot lighting the smaller bait makers so guys like me can find out about them. I’m positive I’m not the only person that sees your content as a huge source of info of the subject. 🙏

  • @willembry5469
    @willembry5469 Рік тому

    Money makes some people do crazy stuff. Look at the walleye cheaters from last year, look at Mike Long, etc. Just like your comments about Japan, our fish are getting harder to catch and all the JDM baits I’ve bought from THUT have given me an edge tournament and fun fishing

  • @Darkman-Fishing
    @Darkman-Fishing Рік тому

    My first ICAST I saw 3 fist fights over stolen design. That was over 15 years ago.
    There is zero incentive to stop!
    It’s not the first swimbait that was stolen either.
    This industry kills originality, if it works it’s going to get stolen.
    Btw when it comes to money, there is never going to be a simple solution.
    My issue with videos like yours complaining
    About this knock off, it’s only now a big deal since it hit a good small SWIMBAIT company. Where were you when the trash fish or the Tool were stolen or when the Senko got copied over and over.
    But one only becomes a advocate when it effects you. It’s this divide that allows baits to be stolen.
    Guys like you needs to call out All rip offs not just what effect you

  • @BriansCustomTackle
    @BriansCustomTackle Рік тому

    Best we can do is not buy their products even if its at a cheaper price point and expose them in videos like these

  • @timb8970
    @timb8970 2 місяці тому

    I definitely see the small companies getting screwed over. I wish the companies that take their designs would at least say it was “inspired by” . But no company will ever admit they stole a design. Again, some lures simply are going to look similar due to the fact you can only do so much to a lure.

  • @andrefloresca1324
    @andrefloresca1324 5 місяців тому

    Soon as I saw the nessie and the bronco bug, immediately thought of the jdm baits. Shameless knockoffs, honestly. Not only that, but money above everything else drives the sport here in the states. On the flipside of big bait fishing, any of these big companies that started making more finesse size hard baits when bfs took off on the mainstream market. Even then, they pale in comparison to their jdm counterparts. Its just dumb that money is the one thing driving the market here, since most of what comes out here in the states is some rehashed bullshit that was shown last year. The epitome of "Same shit, different pile"

  • @alexdolly6077
    @alexdolly6077 Рік тому

    Enjoy your Video, however I have to respectfully disagree. If a Manufacture has a recorded patent of a product filed, and someone else comes to market with a similar product, the original manufacture should sue. BUT, if there is no patent on the product, and the manufacture can't keep up with demand or charges more, then one of two things will happen. either the loyal customer will wait form the original manufacture product, (No matter how long it takes) OR that person is going to find someone else who can meet his need. Because in the end, who's to say that in 3 years or 3 months from now, something else isn't going to come along and move that lure into the bargain bin of fishing products.

  • @Radican1
    @Radican1 6 місяців тому

    Bro I recently got the Nessie 7 and rapala bronco bug at Walmart and didn’t even know they were knock offs until I came across your video!

  • @franksancimino1297
    @franksancimino1297 Рік тому +1

    Take a deep breathe.....ok I'm with you 100% . The classic knock-off Rapala/Rebel...the modern day minnow plug........................

  • @pescadordosertao4134
    @pescadordosertao4134 Рік тому

    Are you crying over copycats over not trademarked stuff?

  • @aarongreen9013
    @aarongreen9013 5 місяців тому

    The price difference is the key with these, its the jdm companies fault. Absolutely no reason a soft plastic glide should cost more that 20$

  • @briannewell7486
    @briannewell7486 Рік тому

    Is it really that difficult to see or understand why scalpers they buy everything up and try to charge 4-5 times more than what they cost. Then u have such a little amount of baits made if it isnt scalpers its other anglers trying to make a 2nd income off selling these companies lures. Look i agree to disagree with u on this topic but all companies have knocked off another company and another its how the industry is maybe if they would work together like spro did with the chad shad then we could just forget the problem all together but never gonna happen most companies are out for themselves. This is a problem thats never gonna end. Anyways i could go on but ill leave it here. But also remember most knockoffs suck so alot of these knockoff lures wont be worth a shit anyways .

  • @DersABigBuck
    @DersABigBuck Рік тому

    I commented on Zaldain and Ike’s posts a while ago for the baits they copied. Not that it’s doing much but it is getting out of hand. I don’t get how you can copy something and then claim how much work it took you to create. I would feel like a complete idiot. Using words like tuned and whatever flash words they’re using to sell stuff someone carved by hand and molded to start a company lol.

  • @SimonC82686
    @SimonC82686 8 місяців тому

    While I agree, I'll still buy the nessie. It'll be more affordable and available. That's the sad truth about business, If you can't get customers what they want someone else will.

  • @seanshanahan8844
    @seanshanahan8844 9 місяців тому

    I have to think the Japanese lure maker's appreciate the millions of dollars we spend on their products, i have thousands of dollars of Japanese lures and products throughout my fishing.

  • @JonJonsOutdoors
    @JonJonsOutdoors Рік тому +1

    Bro!! I was disgusted by the theft and to see it rewarded just shows the downfall of I-Cast. I think we should do a backing or gather investments so grow can expand and add employees. Not sure if go fund me is the right thing but I’d invest in them. I love the 150!! Can’t get a 170 anywhere. Have you thrown your crawler I sent? I inboxed you about it. Hope you like the Nite Bite! Jon Jon’s Outdoor btw

  • @barryhowell9
    @barryhowell9 9 місяців тому

    #jacobwheeeler and the whole #crushcity line up is a complete #knockoff !
    It’s all about the $. Lost all respect for that guy! Yea you Wheeler! You’re a 1000% on point #crazybassfisher

  • @dustybacon91
    @dustybacon91 Рік тому

    Not Berkley knocking off lures when 10ish years ago they sued and stopped other companies from making baits similar to their Gulp line 😂

  • @EmjayX55
    @EmjayX55 Рік тому

    Damn I remember back in the day when Mickey and his minions would throw a fit if any swimbait makers copied his door hinge joint design? Now mfs copying whole baits lmao.

  • @せんべい鹿
    @せんべい鹿 4 місяці тому

    あなたの考えは本当に素晴らしい🎉
    あなたの様な素晴らしい釣り人がまた日本に来て楽しい釣りをして、沢山の友達を作り、いい思い出を作る事をお祈りします😊

  • @chefmatt6299
    @chefmatt6299 Рік тому +1

    "Why don't these large corporations do collaborations with some of these smaller Japanese brands?" DUDE, LOUDER FOR THE PEOPLE IN THE BACK! Spread that message far and wide.

  • @timb8970
    @timb8970 2 місяці тому

    The big companies don’t want to ‘collaborate’ because that means they have to pay the smaller companies money.

  • @doscherhill4335
    @doscherhill4335 8 місяців тому

    “Who made this fucking this before Andrew Hinkle? What the fuck?” Hahahahahaha I’m dead at that bro

  • @otykeovongsa
    @otykeovongsa Рік тому +1

    Patent laws are different in America and protect certain territories. Like for example Zman licensed Evergreen Jack Hammer Chatterbaits and it is patented in the USA so technically companies can not use the same design in the United States. But in Japan the Evergreen Jack Hammer Chatterbait design is copied by all Japanese lure companies because its not patented in japan?

  • @anthonyzagarellajr3680
    @anthonyzagarellajr3680 Рік тому

    Bass pro is good for knock offs. They had knocked off the donut shad,s-waver etc. Also bass mafia and googan baits knocked of the magdraft.