How To Roll a Silver Ingot To Make Wire - Recycling Old Scrap Silver
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- Опубліковано 30 вер 2024
- In Andrew's previous film • How To Roll a Silver I... Andrew showed you how to roll out sheet silver. In this film Andrew rolls out wire into various sections giving you lots of hints and tips gained from over 30 years melting and rolling metal down. There is a special tip contained in this film that Andrew has developed on making court shaped wire.
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Andrew Berry, a professional jeweller for 30 years, is the training director of www.AtTheBench.com, an award winning on line jewellery training website.
Thanks for the great info as always! Don’t think I’ve seen a video explaining the making of “D” wire before and that is a great trick you showed turning it over to soften the inside!
Thank you Andrew. These are great instructional videos.
Andrew, you've been a God send brother, I just recently turned 52 and I am on my way to putting my all into creating jewelry after spending the first half of this life being a carpenter. Time for change, getting too many years on the body to be climbing around on peoples homes... Ready and eager to learn a way to use my mind and hands at working with metal and semi precious stones. Instead of climbing ladders, being on roofs, etc....I've done that all long enough, too long to be totally honest.
I am so grateful to been led to you and your channel....I've binged watched your videos for the past week or close to it and have learned so much from your videos! I wish youtube still sent email notifications so we know when you go Live....thank you for sharing your 30+ years experience with us all here!
I subscribed as soon as I was minutes into your first video I was led to....cannot even recall which that was now. I've likely watched at least 30 or 40+ videos of yours and will likely be listening and watching as many more as I need to....I know how to search your channel and if you've not already shared what ever it may be I'm looking for, I'll look for your most recent video and leave you a comment there!
Thank you again for being you, and sharing all your knowledge/experience with us here!
Hope you're still at it bro?
Andrew these have been a Great series of videos, from inogt to wire! So many great tips! Thank u.. Greta to see u post in regular again on here too 😉all the best
Now I have a Rolling Mill, 2023, Yay. Thanks for your excellent advice.
My first Rolling Mill arrives in 2 days. I am so excited. Thank you for the instructions.
Great video Andrew, thank you 👍
Andrew, I love the way you teach. thank you so much for allowing us to watch you work. I have learned alot just in this session alone. Thank You😊😊😊😊
I’m loving these videos! I just took delivery of a C130 Agile and you are helping to ensure that I get a whole lot of use from it! 💕
Hi Andrew, what a great video! Thank you. I am in the process of making a D-shape gold wire (for a wedding ring) using an ingot of melted heirloom gold…as I understand it, I will be best of making the ingot into a square wire before making it D-shape. Is that correct? Always start with a square whatever shape you want to finish of with? Thank you!
Thank you, Andrew! I just purchased a nearly identical Pepe mill and so this info will be extremely helpful! My first I got cracked like crazy, and it’s good to know that it’s probably because I was reversing directions on each pass!
Would it help to re-liquefy the Ingot perhaps to stabilize the inner molecules metal another question would it help at all to warm up the silver ingot just right before you roll it out would that help any thanks a lot for excellent excellent videos nobody holds a candle to yours thank you
Good video, thank you. Unfortunately i have a budget mill from Cooksongold and with it i can only make sheet, half round and v-shape wire. One would think it came with possibility to make round wire. I think round wire is more common and most used wire to make. Don´t take me wrong, it is still a good mill for a hobbyist like me. And there is no way to change the lower roller with grooves. If i wan´t round wire i have to make a v-shape or half round wire first and then use a draw plate to pull the half round wire through the round holes to make round wire. I have not tested yet but i think it is possible?
Top notch video. Can’t wait for the next
I love the D-shaped wire with the softly rounded flat side. You seem to call it 'Court shaped' but I may have that spelling wrong. What is the name of that D shaped wire that you turned over to slightly round the inside flat side with the sharp edges, to make the ring more comfortable and slightly rounded.
Also re the 'name'. Where does that name of that shape of wire come from?
Thank you, Andrew! I love your videos.
I see these video and there annealing is always do clean with oxidation when u work with gold oxidation is always a thing maybe it ls the gas I use or something but I can limit it a bit with strategy but so you want it slightly red and not glowing hot I be blasting my metal then lol learn something new everyday you turned 90 degrees any other tips and tricks that keep then straight I seem to always have mine bent and wonder how you professionals keep things so straight
This is exactly the video I was looking for! Love your informative videos.
OMG. Now it's called "safety" pickle.
Great information!
I'm down wit yo shit, homie. You keep it 𝘳𝘦𝘢𝘭 real, dawg, nah mean? Lu' you, Andrew Berry. Realz.
White Boy Rick makes jewelry now, noice.
that helped me alot Andrew thanks alot
Seems like a lot of work for a piece of wire.
why does mine curl so much
Great job on the video!
Very Cool 😎👍💯
It's not fun when your rolling metal and those smaller pieces become a problem. But its all learning. Having all the things you need to start an journey in jewelry might get expensive but with gold and silver the craxy thing is if you mess up all you have to do is melt and repeat. I've been working with the gold I did have and have been working with the same amount and just learning new things to do and how to work with the metal. If you on top of metal loss and trying to get most of it back when doing something not much loss is seen. So yes every tool is what's hard at first but after you have a decent amount of things to work with. But when you have those tools and want to share and learn things one ounce is more than enough to keep learning and working with. You can buy sheet and wire but gets costly and is for those who don't have a means to form or time and works great for them. I use what I have and learn as I go along flat us the hardest to me cause it requires more pressure and energy than wire. Another factor is karat cause when you work with 24k it is soft and can be worked so much easier than karat gold but who has lots of 24k to use I bought 4grams of 24k refined 4 9s fume and was so easy compared to 4gramd of 14 k
I learned a lot in this video Andrew, than you so much.
The tip of (the "court" section are you calling it? My hearing isn't so good) turning it upside -down was just in time.
"Gorgeous gorgeous"...love it! Keep up the great work and excellent teaching, Andrew!
Thanks Andrew. So much useful information. Going to re watch the series.
Super helpful!!!
Hi Andrew, learnt a lot as usual from watching your film. I have an entry model rolling mill and love it to bits. Now I can practice more stuff whilst understanding why I got cracks! Thanks so much
Really excellent video tutorial. Some first class ideas and knowledge. Once again Andrew a top notch tutorial. . Kathy
Very informative. A bit over-explained at parts but I’d rather have it beaten to death then glossed over. Gonna be learning a lot from this chap I suppose.
This might be a really silly question, but as I can't afford a rolling mill, could you use one of those ring stretchers normally used for rings with settings as a mini mill?
Thanks Andrew!
Thank u for ur show....so helpful... nice tools.u r so talented....It looks like i need a fire box.....
This reminds me of petting a cat you can’t rub it from tail to head because it pushes their fur in the wrong direction 🐈🤣
Thank you so much Andrew , I absolutely love your videos . You’re a great teacher
I do like PstronofDeath: use the sheet side but slide it all out to the side. Works just like the round side. I have for this purpose filed some air vents on the side wall.
4:18 you could use the side for sheets but with an offset, so that you get a (mostly) square hole to pour in.
Thank you. very nice and informative video.
The ratio of the change in width versus the change in length when you reduce the thickness is called the Poisson Ratio and it's different for every material. Also changes with crystal direction and hence crystal texture which is why rolled sheet normally ends up wavy...
In contrast rolling wire (square - or rather - diamond), the deformation is constrained in two directions and can only get longer....
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poisson%27s_ratio
Another way of thinking about is that when you change the cross section shape, you lose some cross sectional area to reduction in thickness and some due to elongation...
Such a good video. Can't wait to try this!
I have this same mill and finally have all the tools to do this. 😁👌
Do you really need square ingot to feed into the square rollers?
can't you just reshape a circular ingot, is there any problem with that other than it taking a bit longer?
Maui Randall Any shape will do initially
Thank you Mr.Andrew
If I have an ingot with a D section can I just start out with the D section of the rolling mill?
Athena Bandit yes of course you can
Hi Andrew. I'm very interested in jewellery making and your vids are very useful but I have a question. I want to make silver wire from scrap but in 7mm diameter, the rolling mills I've looked at are generally good to around 3mm so how do I make my 7mm.👌
An entry level rolling mill simply does not have the capability of rolling wire that thick. You will also have to have a draw bench what is chain driven as opposed to a belt too. Oh. And also a large hole draw plate. It can be done but you are gonna have to have some large equipment
Thanks for your reply I thought I'd maybe have to go that route 👍
I appreciate you!
You can use the round mold to pour your metal using the sheet round mold shown here. You can make is square but go slow and anneal often. Rolling takes forever at the beginning but then as you see the shape going along before you know it you have something to work with. I’m on a Pepe tools mill and the cogs do have space in them. This can be seen on the metal. I’m stuck using the Pepe until a durston mill is acquired.
What do you mean "the cogs have space in them" I have a Pepe and it is just as good as any Durston
pijnto
⚙️ space ⚙️ in-between the teeth is great, not fine or a gear box.
Far superior than a economy. I love the tool.
Thank you sir 🤗
I use a much larger version of the adjustable mold I cast about 400 grams at a time, I've also got an electric roller which makes it a lot easier, I cut it in half when it gets too long to work with, I often take a 400 gram 10mm round bar down to 0.25mm
the roll mill only goes down too 1mm it has to be drawn down from there
the cracking happens when you roll it down to much before annealing
if the wire makes a ticking sound while rolling it has become to hard, once you have worked with the metal enough you can feel/know when the metal is going to tick if you anneal before that happens you have zero cracks
Super und gut thank you
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Myself learning fix..😗😗