I think the only thing I would add to my reasoning is “how much darkness they have.” Sora, even at kingdom hearts 1 level is very strong, but still only produced a shadow because he has so little darkness.
I do think that the Chimera would've worked for Xigbar really well, considering how it has three heads, representing the three identities Luxu had. The top represents Braig/Xigbar, the middle represents Bragi, and the bottom represents Brain.
personally I would assume that all of the founding members were emblem heartless because those heartless are Xehanort experiments so I assume that he experimented on everyone.
Hm, that’s a good point, I hadn’t considered that I assumed he just sort of stabbed them via the Dream Drop cutscene and didn’t have much choice over what their heartless became
I think I have pondered the nobody/heartless counterparts at some point, but probably just chucked that in the “things KH will probably not explain” box. Very interesting to hear the possibilities, especially since you put a bunch of big and small choices that all vaguely link up. Now thinking about it, if Sora has such a strong heart and still only turns into a basic shadow heartless, why can’t these other guys have had their heartless be kinda small or unassuming in a similar vein?
You’re right, I doubt it’ll ever be explained, belongs right in that box along with what Pluto did during KH1 lol And yeah I definitely think it’s a possibility, I shoulda meme’d it and said “they’re all shadows, goodbye” 😂 Additionally: just something tangentially relevant, I don’t think Sora was meant to have a little shadow heartless but that was the effect of Ventus’ light on Sora’s heart and I want to make a theory video about it at some point
@@nickmcsleighten ah that’ll be an interesting video! Now that you bring up that possibility, it makes me start wondering what Sora’s heartless was supposed to look like. Like is there a better fit for him among the known heartless, or could there have been a whole new boss-level one that we could only speculate what it looked like?!
@@nickmcsleightenI'm interested in checking out that theory but I always figured Sora just didn't have enough darkness in his heart in the first place to transform into anything stronger than a little shadow. He wasn't exactly consumed by darkness and I always figured the shadow heartless were more like regular people a little bit of darkness who were attacked by heartless and lost their hearts to darkness that way.
@@donovanfaust3227 to that i raise; Sora's Heartless in Re:Coded takes a few forms, including a kind of Darkside as the first form, and gets gradually weaker until it's just that original shadow. i think the size or strength of the heartless of someone is an analogue to the side or strength of the darkness inside their heart, given how Data-Sora's Heartless is so much stronger after the events of KH1+Re:COM+2 than Sora's original Heartless at the end of KH1 - he gained more pain and darkness over his journeys to the point of developing into an anti form and rage form
@@caseysaunders2168 Mind you, it is implied that the darkside is the same from Destiny Islands and was absorbed. I personally wouldn't use the dataworld as evidence anyways because it goes by wildly diffrent rules.
I've always thought the Phantom would be a good fit for Luxord. Phantom's fight is one of the few "puzzle" superbosses in the series which I think really fits Luxord's more puzzle-y fights in KH2, plus his whole fight's gimmick surronds the Clock Tower (Time)
Yeah I was honestly surprised Phantom wasn't even mentioned because after Luxord's boss fight that's the second most gimmick-y fight that requires you to manage time that I could think of. The only argument against it though is that the Phantom casts doom on you and your party which is associated with Marluxia now.
@@donovanfaust3227 yeah at the time I was more focused on the Doom aspect than the Time aspect, but I do like Phantom as a potential Heartless for Luxord
I am so surprised that you didn't put the freaking grim reaper boss in KH2(specifically the pirates of the Caribbean world) for Marluxia. It honestly fits their aesthetic very nicely even if it doesn't nicely fit all of the criteria. It has a huge scythe-like weapon, deals in death, and guards the chest of coins that turn the pirates into zombies/skeletons which actually lines up with the Doom aspect of Marluxia pretty well.
You mention strong hearts so strong heartless. The strength of a heartless is based on the evil within ones heart, not the strength of one's heart. This is why Sora's heartless was the weakest type of heartless as there is little darkness in him. Xehanorts heartless Ansem is super strong as Xehanort has lots of darkness in his heart. If anyone is wondering, the strength of nobodies on the other hand are based on the strength of the original people, strong person = strong nobody This is why Sora had a weak heartless but a very strong nobody (Roxas)
I probably wouldn't have wanted to use the strength or the heartless as a factor as, well, one of the two known examples we have is Roxas (an undoubtablely powerful Nobody who's return scared XEMNASS) have a heartless of... literally the most basic heartless out there, a simple Shadow. (this detail would also probably eliminate other criteria you set like elemental affinity.... but that would be no fun) On the Strom Rider... I think think after beating it, we get a bit of an explanation that it was actually a Dragon from the land of Dragons that Xigbar turned into a heartless.... If I am recalling that correctly, then it's canonical backstory should disqualify it from this list. Same deal with Groundshaker.... pretty sure it is canonically Scar's heartless, or at least way to tied to Scar for it to have come from someone else. Zexion must be really hard to do powerwise since his abilities change with each appearance... in re:CoM he could make Illusionary copies of himself, disguise himself in cutscenes (taking Sora's apperence) and steal/copy Riku's powers, in KH2FM he trapped you in a pocket dimension for a bunch of stuff, and when playing as him in 358/2 Days he just made a bunch of other weapons pop out of his book. So getting a lock on his powers must be tough. Maybe the lack of a clear match for Luxord is foreshadowing a twist of some kind? He IS gearing up to be a lot more important in the next saga.
So you’re right about that as far as strong heartless go, but I have a theory about why Sora’s Heartless is a Shadow and it has to do with Ventus residing in his heart, but to not spoil it: I think Sora’s heartless was meant to be much stronger which is why I kept the criteria I’d have to rewatch the cutscenes but iirc you might be right about Storm Rider and Groundshaker, oops lol Yeah basically Zexion is “does whatever we want him to do in the moment” which is like: okay great, guess I’ll just stick with the book aesthetic 😂 Oooo that’s a possibility, and a random detail I wouldn’t put past Nomura (like that time the box art of sora sitting in 1.5, standing in 2.5, then walking in 2.8 apparently had hidden meanings)
@@nickmcsleighten Hmm, I can see why one would think that... but I think it was stated that the strength of the heartless is based off of how much darkness was in the heart of one transformed, so I don't think Ventus's presence had an impact (since it didn't take away any darkness and just added more light). Ehh, either way, imagining that the boss-level nobodies had powerful heartless counterparts probably made it more fun for you anyway. Ehh, at least Zexion's theme is flexible enough that it is justifiable... the catch being how to justify the Illusions causing actual pain. Which kinda sets up how Lucky it was for the heroes that he was taken out quickly... he could have caused a LOT of problems had he survived past CoM. There's a lot we can't put past Nomura on what he would do... wouldn't be surprised if the next game makes Coded's importance level skyrocket by a billion. Justification: It's Nomura.
What about Reverse Armor for Saix? It’s big, gets enraged by switch to a more aggressive form, and floats like Saix does. Weapons? It’s hands and feet are weapons that when combined right, can resemble a Claymore, which Saix wields. Thoughts?
@@nickmcsleighten you brought up the guard armor for like three different candidates, but Saix was the best one. Reverse Armor is looked over for some reason, but it’s definitely an excellent second phase for a boss and because it’s more aggressive and fires a large Orb(Moon) blast… I thought it fit better than just Guard Armor.
@@RedDragonForce2 it does! I think it got forgot because I was focused on the “rage” and “weapon” aspect and the rage aspect is the only reason 358 Guard Armor got considered to begin with until I made “large” a criteria
For Marluxia I would reinforce the argument of Phantom with how it slightly reminds me of the nobody he casts in the final battle of Chain of Memories which seems based off Strelitzia
Good work on going through all these. I do think it's a shame that a couple of the original Organization never revealed their subordinates. Would have probably been cool...
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Before three came out I was hoping the new organization members would've been Ansem esk heartless counter parts of the previous members but no such luck since only Xehanort is privy to that...thank you Riku I guess.
Also, probably relevant to mention that, I doubt Heartless like Darksides or Invisible could be options, because as like Heartless of the vein of White Mushrooms or Black Balad, they don't release Hearts.
Wyvern makes sense, wonder how I missed that? b tier lmao and Ruler of the Sky makes sense too but, imo has too many ice based powers and is more bird & chest aesthetic than lance, dragon, & wind
@@nickmcsleighten Right. I only played 358/2 Days once and I forgot some of their move sets lol. I just thought the name was kind of fitting, “Ruler” of the “Sky”.
My theory is they just killed their heartless the exact place they became nobodies and lost their hearts. i mean that is what happened to Sora, his heartless appeared the place he lost his heart. As for a reason, maybe they went berserk and attacked them. I mean I think they can only control nobodies and not heartless right?
Thats an interesting theory, I’m not sure if it would make sense in terms of Xehanort’s grand plan; but maybe it wasn’t part of the plan? Maybe it just happened and they had to be dealt with! Either way, it’s fun to speculate on!
I thought about that but it doesn’t make a ton of sense to me since Trickmaster is more paper mâché and doesn’t really have a gimmick/“play a game” mechanic
You’re probably right, the Organization started in CoM before they had come up with the idea for Nobodies and how those rules work in-game But it’s still fun to speculate
Yeah, I don't think they really dwelled on specifics since most of the heartless were (presumably) killed at the end of KH1 with the destruction of The End of the World.
Part of me thinks they’d be pure blood heartless. As soras heartless is the pure blood shadow. And Ansem only has the emblem because he was the one behind it.
Honestly, that’s a possibility; I’m not entirely sure how the heartless system works (whether or not you become pure blood or emblem or if pure blood is just like creatures from the realm of darkness and emblems are actually people 🤷♂️) But a full list of pure bloods wouldn’t be as fun 😂
@@nickmcsleightenthey would likely be emblem heartless instead of pure blood due to being the result of the Radiant Garden experiments, aka the ones that formed the first emblem heartless. The formation of more emblem heartless come from an emblem heartless stealing the heart of a somebody, which is why we have some even after the machine has long since gotten any use.
@@nickmcsleighten I think the only times we see pure blood heartless form are when people with lots of darkness in their hearts summon them, my guess is they come from the realm of darkness. Emblems seem to be directly links to people becoming nobodies though.
@@AshleyoftheSwiftspear-pb8cs outside of Sora, who is a special case anyway, I agree with this - like you said, I think purebloods can only come from the RoD and artificial are distinctly born from somebody’s heart
I do want to say one thing Stormrider has to actually be off the list or E while it is a strong weather dragon we know what it was made from one of the ancient dragons of Mulan's world Originally a creature that gave strength to the earth and people, it was turned into a Heartless. If this was not mentioned then it would be an S candidate for Xaldin imo
@@TetsuRiken you are right that its from Mulan’s world and that was an oversight on my part But say that wasn’t the case, I don’t think of it as an S, but I understand how you could 😎 especially with Ride the Wind being an active part of the fight
Probably nobody important. If Sora can be the weakest heartless with his nobody being contender for one of the strongest nobodies, then there really is no rule that the heartless needs to be related powerwise. Technically speaking, Ansem is not even that insane on his own either, half of his used abilities were clearly obtained by yoinking Riku's original body.
@@lpfan4491 powerwise was actually incorrect on my part, instead its amount of darkness in the heart that correlates to the strength of the heartless So Sora’s being a weak heartless isn’t relevant to his nobody, but rather a reflection of the darkness in his heart
@@zarxiel2339 i just checked the cutscene and you’re right! i must be misremembering with the xemnas’ dragon nobody theory, thanks for the correction 😁
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I think the only thing I would add to my reasoning is “how much darkness they have.” Sora, even at kingdom hearts 1 level is very strong, but still only produced a shadow because he has so little darkness.
It slipped my mind at the time 😅 but you are right
I do think that the Chimera would've worked for Xigbar really well, considering how it has three heads, representing the three identities Luxu had. The top represents Braig/Xigbar, the middle represents Bragi, and the bottom represents Brain.
Oooo I like that, that’s a really cool idea!
Well Luxu being brain is mostly deconfirmed by KH3’s secret reports
personally I would assume that all of the founding members were emblem heartless because those heartless are Xehanort experiments so I assume that he experimented on everyone.
Hm, that’s a good point, I hadn’t considered that
I assumed he just sort of stabbed them via the Dream Drop cutscene and didn’t have much choice over what their heartless became
I think I have pondered the nobody/heartless counterparts at some point, but probably just chucked that in the “things KH will probably not explain” box. Very interesting to hear the possibilities, especially since you put a bunch of big and small choices that all vaguely link up. Now thinking about it, if Sora has such a strong heart and still only turns into a basic shadow heartless, why can’t these other guys have had their heartless be kinda small or unassuming in a similar vein?
You’re right, I doubt it’ll ever be explained, belongs right in that box along with what Pluto did during KH1 lol
And yeah I definitely think it’s a possibility, I shoulda meme’d it and said “they’re all shadows, goodbye” 😂
Additionally: just something tangentially relevant, I don’t think Sora was meant to have a little shadow heartless but that was the effect of Ventus’ light on Sora’s heart and I want to make a theory video about it at some point
@@nickmcsleighten ah that’ll be an interesting video! Now that you bring up that possibility, it makes me start wondering what Sora’s heartless was supposed to look like. Like is there a better fit for him among the known heartless, or could there have been a whole new boss-level one that we could only speculate what it looked like?!
@@nickmcsleightenI'm interested in checking out that theory but I always figured Sora just didn't have enough darkness in his heart in the first place to transform into anything stronger than a little shadow. He wasn't exactly consumed by darkness and I always figured the shadow heartless were more like regular people a little bit of darkness who were attacked by heartless and lost their hearts to darkness that way.
@@donovanfaust3227 to that i raise; Sora's Heartless in Re:Coded takes a few forms, including a kind of Darkside as the first form, and gets gradually weaker until it's just that original shadow. i think the size or strength of the heartless of someone is an analogue to the side or strength of the darkness inside their heart, given how Data-Sora's Heartless is so much stronger after the events of KH1+Re:COM+2 than Sora's original Heartless at the end of KH1 - he gained more pain and darkness over his journeys to the point of developing into an anti form and rage form
@@caseysaunders2168 Mind you, it is implied that the darkside is the same from Destiny Islands and was absorbed. I personally wouldn't use the dataworld as evidence anyways because it goes by wildly diffrent rules.
I've always thought the Phantom would be a good fit for Luxord. Phantom's fight is one of the few "puzzle" superbosses in the series which I think really fits Luxord's more puzzle-y fights in KH2, plus his whole fight's gimmick surronds the Clock Tower (Time)
Ooooh thats a really good point, I never thought of that!
Yeah I was honestly surprised Phantom wasn't even mentioned because after Luxord's boss fight that's the second most gimmick-y fight that requires you to manage time that I could think of. The only argument against it though is that the Phantom casts doom on you and your party which is associated with Marluxia now.
@@donovanfaust3227 yeah at the time I was more focused on the Doom aspect than the Time aspect, but I do like Phantom as a potential Heartless for Luxord
If Vexen, Lexaeus & Zexion had Nobody subordinates, they would be Paladin, Dark Knight, & Summoner.
It'd be very ironic if Luxord's Heartless was the Grim Reaper.
Imagine throwing around your own heartless and not knowing about it
I am so surprised that you didn't put the freaking grim reaper boss in KH2(specifically the pirates of the Caribbean world) for Marluxia. It honestly fits their aesthetic very nicely even if it doesn't nicely fit all of the criteria. It has a huge scythe-like weapon, deals in death, and guards the chest of coins that turn the pirates into zombies/skeletons which actually lines up with the Doom aspect of Marluxia pretty well.
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You mention strong hearts so strong heartless. The strength of a heartless is based on the evil within ones heart, not the strength of one's heart. This is why Sora's heartless was the weakest type of heartless as there is little darkness in him. Xehanorts heartless Ansem is super strong as Xehanort has lots of darkness in his heart.
If anyone is wondering, the strength of nobodies on the other hand are based on the strength of the original people, strong person = strong nobody
This is why Sora had a weak heartless but a very strong nobody (Roxas)
You’re correct about that and I realized it much too late unfortunately lol
I probably wouldn't have wanted to use the strength or the heartless as a factor as, well, one of the two known examples we have is Roxas (an undoubtablely powerful Nobody who's return scared XEMNASS) have a heartless of... literally the most basic heartless out there, a simple Shadow. (this detail would also probably eliminate other criteria you set like elemental affinity.... but that would be no fun)
On the Strom Rider... I think think after beating it, we get a bit of an explanation that it was actually a Dragon from the land of Dragons that Xigbar turned into a heartless.... If I am recalling that correctly, then it's canonical backstory should disqualify it from this list.
Same deal with Groundshaker.... pretty sure it is canonically Scar's heartless, or at least way to tied to Scar for it to have come from someone else.
Zexion must be really hard to do powerwise since his abilities change with each appearance... in re:CoM he could make Illusionary copies of himself, disguise himself in cutscenes (taking Sora's apperence) and steal/copy Riku's powers, in KH2FM he trapped you in a pocket dimension for a bunch of stuff, and when playing as him in 358/2 Days he just made a bunch of other weapons pop out of his book. So getting a lock on his powers must be tough.
Maybe the lack of a clear match for Luxord is foreshadowing a twist of some kind? He IS gearing up to be a lot more important in the next saga.
So you’re right about that as far as strong heartless go, but I have a theory about why Sora’s Heartless is a Shadow and it has to do with Ventus residing in his heart, but to not spoil it: I think Sora’s heartless was meant to be much stronger which is why I kept the criteria
I’d have to rewatch the cutscenes but iirc you might be right about Storm Rider and Groundshaker, oops lol
Yeah basically Zexion is “does whatever we want him to do in the moment” which is like: okay great, guess I’ll just stick with the book aesthetic 😂
Oooo that’s a possibility, and a random detail I wouldn’t put past Nomura (like that time the box art of sora sitting in 1.5, standing in 2.5, then walking in 2.8 apparently had hidden meanings)
@@nickmcsleighten Hmm, I can see why one would think that... but I think it was stated that the strength of the heartless is based off of how much darkness was in the heart of one transformed, so I don't think Ventus's presence had an impact (since it didn't take away any darkness and just added more light). Ehh, either way, imagining that the boss-level nobodies had powerful heartless counterparts probably made it more fun for you anyway.
Ehh, at least Zexion's theme is flexible enough that it is justifiable... the catch being how to justify the Illusions causing actual pain. Which kinda sets up how Lucky it was for the heroes that he was taken out quickly... he could have caused a LOT of problems had he survived past CoM.
There's a lot we can't put past Nomura on what he would do... wouldn't be surprised if the next game makes Coded's importance level skyrocket by a billion. Justification: It's Nomura.
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What about Reverse Armor for Saix? It’s big, gets enraged by switch to a more aggressive form, and floats like Saix does. Weapons? It’s hands and feet are weapons that when combined right, can resemble a Claymore, which Saix wields.
Thoughts?
Oooo you make a lot of good points too! I think i like you’re pick better than mine lol
@@nickmcsleighten you brought up the guard armor for like three different candidates, but Saix was the best one. Reverse Armor is looked over for some reason, but it’s definitely an excellent second phase for a boss and because it’s more aggressive and fires a large Orb(Moon) blast… I thought it fit better than just Guard Armor.
@@RedDragonForce2 it does! I think it got forgot because I was focused on the “rage” and “weapon” aspect and the rage aspect is the only reason 358 Guard Armor got considered to begin with until I made “large” a criteria
For Marluxia I would reinforce the argument of Phantom with how it slightly reminds me of the nobody he casts in the final battle of Chain of Memories which seems based off Strelitzia
@@Abelatox yeah, if you put Marluxia Third Form and Phantom together, they look like two halves of a greater whole
Amazing Vid! never gave it much thought about the Org 13’s heartless! love all your picks for each of them! 👏
@@GenArt_Off thank you so much 😁😁😁
Nice. Keep up the great work
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Good work on going through all these. I do think it's a shame that a couple of the original Organization never revealed their subordinates. Would have probably been cool...
@@HexanTronic thank you! And i know right?! Justice for the forgotten nobody subordinates lol
@@nickmcsleighten - Exactly! And even looking around, no one can really agree on what they would be/look like.
Some of those battles were nightmares took forever to be beat
You’re not wrong
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Phantom from Never land was my pick for Maruxia
It’s a fair pick, especially with the reaper aesthetic and being one of the few two characters who can cast Doom
ooooh good picks, not feeling Luxord but i get why you picked it
also I like the tier list lotta good info with that
Yeah, I don't super feel Luxord's either but, what can we do? Just not enough options, also thanks! :)
Before three came out I was hoping the new organization members would've been Ansem esk heartless counter parts of the previous members but no such luck since only Xehanort is privy to that...thank you Riku I guess.
holy fuck finally, someone who pronounces the name of 358/2 days correctly
Also, probably relevant to mention that, I doubt Heartless like Darksides or Invisible could be options, because as like Heartless of the vein of White Mushrooms or Black Balad, they don't release Hearts.
@@HexanTronic fair, while pure bloods don’t release hearts, we do know they are options from Sora becoming a Shadow
@@nickmcsleighten - Indeed. Although, I did have a theory related to that.
@@HexanTronic let’s hear it
@@nickmcsleighten I posted it on the video about Sora's Heartless you did. I can post it here as well if you like.
@ nah ill read it over there ty 😌
I expected Wyvern from KH1 and Ruler of the Sky from 358/2 Days to be on Xaldin’s list. I forgot about Windstorm though.
Wyvern makes sense, wonder how I missed that? b tier lmao
and Ruler of the Sky makes sense too but, imo has too many ice based powers and is more bird & chest aesthetic than lance, dragon, & wind
@@nickmcsleighten Right. I only played 358/2 Days once and I forgot some of their move sets lol. I just thought the name was kind of fitting, “Ruler” of the “Sky”.
@@GalakStari that's a good point, I didn't even consider names lol
Kurt zisa would be a good choice to be xaldins heartless becuase both have multiple weapons and have wind elements
@@thetronwarriors4817That’s a good one too!
My theory is they just killed their heartless the exact place they became nobodies and lost their hearts. i mean that is what happened to Sora, his heartless appeared the place he lost his heart. As for a reason, maybe they went berserk and attacked them. I mean I think they can only control nobodies and not heartless right?
Thats an interesting theory, I’m not sure if it would make sense in terms of Xehanort’s grand plan; but maybe it wasn’t part of the plan? Maybe it just happened and they had to be dealt with!
Either way, it’s fun to speculate on!
@@nickmcsleighten Maybe he wanted them to be recompleted, so he can find out who is a suitable host. hat is what we saw in Re:Coded.
@@coldandstinky its a possibility! I like the way you think 😁
What about Trickmaster for Luxord?
I thought about that but it doesn’t make a ton of sense to me since Trickmaster is more paper mâché and doesn’t really have a gimmick/“play a game” mechanic
I think they just didnt think far enough for the rules they set.
You’re probably right, the Organization started in CoM before they had come up with the idea for Nobodies and how those rules work in-game
But it’s still fun to speculate
@@nickmcsleighten yeah! i appreciate you attempting to make this sensible. Please keep up the good work!
@@dillonyoung5502 thank you 😁😁 will do!
Yeah, I don't think they really dwelled on specifics since most of the heartless were (presumably) killed at the end of KH1 with the destruction of The End of the World.
wait i thought darkside used gravity
if so dark follower would definitely be placed higher (and look at the wings)
Nah, all Darkside's moves are based in "dark" element, but I like your thoughts on Dark Follower
Part of me thinks they’d be pure blood heartless. As soras heartless is the pure blood shadow.
And Ansem only has the emblem because he was the one behind it.
Honestly, that’s a possibility; I’m not entirely sure how the heartless system works (whether or not you become pure blood or emblem or if pure blood is just like creatures from the realm of darkness and emblems are actually people 🤷♂️)
But a full list of pure bloods wouldn’t be as fun 😂
@@nickmcsleightenthey would likely be emblem heartless instead of pure blood due to being the result of the Radiant Garden experiments, aka the ones that formed the first emblem heartless. The formation of more emblem heartless come from an emblem heartless stealing the heart of a somebody, which is why we have some even after the machine has long since gotten any use.
@@AshleyoftheSwiftspear-pb8cs that’s what I was thinking
@@nickmcsleighten I think the only times we see pure blood heartless form are when people with lots of darkness in their hearts summon them, my guess is they come from the realm of darkness. Emblems seem to be directly links to people becoming nobodies though.
@@AshleyoftheSwiftspear-pb8cs outside of Sora, who is a special case anyway, I agree with this - like you said, I think purebloods can only come from the RoD and artificial are distinctly born from somebody’s heart
I do want to say one thing
Stormrider has to actually be off the list or E while it is a strong weather dragon we know what it was made from one of the ancient dragons of Mulan's world
Originally a creature that gave strength to the earth and people, it was turned into a Heartless.
If this was not mentioned then it would be an S candidate for Xaldin imo
@@TetsuRiken you are right that its from Mulan’s world and that was an oversight on my part
But say that wasn’t the case, I don’t think of it as an S, but I understand how you could 😎 especially with Ride the Wind being an active part of the fight
Probably nobody important. If Sora can be the weakest heartless with his nobody being contender for one of the strongest nobodies, then there really is no rule that the heartless needs to be related powerwise. Technically speaking, Ansem is not even that insane on his own either, half of his used abilities were clearly obtained by yoinking Riku's original body.
@@lpfan4491 powerwise was actually incorrect on my part, instead its amount of darkness in the heart that correlates to the strength of the heartless
So Sora’s being a weak heartless isn’t relevant to his nobody, but rather a reflection of the darkness in his heart
None Of The Above.
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@@OathKeeperRiku07 damn just now? 21 minutes in?? 😂
Storm Rider is confirmed to be the Heartless of a dragon, so, cannot be Dilan's Heartless
As I understand, that’s a fan theory because it makes sense
Do you have a source on that?
@@nickmcsleighten the Emperor literally say that
@@zarxiel2339 i just checked the cutscene and you’re right! i must be misremembering with the xemnas’ dragon nobody theory, thanks for the correction 😁
@@nickmcsleighten also, the Groundshaker we know is Scar's Heartless
@@zarxiel2339 oh? I wasn’t aware of that, but I guess that makes sense since its an amalgam of his lingering darkness
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*deep sigh* if you must
Lol joking aside, it’s about 6 1/2 hours before it drops so you’ve got time
@@nickmcsleighten I'll be staying up for work purposes so it'll make for good background entertainment!!!
@@ligudinkteuf4394 heck yeah!! “Get that bread” as they say
QUESTION THAT DO NEED AWNSER
12:11 well I got flashbacks
Lmao my bad 😂😂
13:02 yeeeeeesh
My brain trying to understand the 1st part of the vid 🤯😵💫
😆 🤣
Like my criteria?
@@nickmcsleighten yeah it works lmao
@@sninja332 i mean like which part are you trying to understand? 😂😂
@@nickmcsleighten oh like when you said nobody to heartless to somebody to nobody
@@sninja332 oh yeah 😂 somebodys makes a heartless and nobody and if you defeat their heartless and nobody they become a somebody again
35:31 jumpscare
@@Evan-ej1zz oh christ 😵💫 trebeck, i’ll choose “things that aged like milk” for 500
for Luxord we could always just use the boss from 2nd pirate visit
Yeah, someone else mentioned that too, and I get why, but personally, I just don’t really feel like there’s any relation is aesthetics or powers
Oh that's a realy interesting topic.
Glad you think so :) I ran a poll between this, a Mickey theory video, and a drawing live about pop culture keyblades and this one won
@@nickmcsleighten I want to hear you mickey theory
@@tomgu2285 that’s gonna be my 100th video special 😎 (UA-cam says I’m over 100 but it counts shorts and I don’t lol)
@@nickmcsleighten can't wait