Romford Traffic Problems 1962 - With Audio

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  • Опубліковано 11 гру 2024
  • ***Update: This video is identical to the Romford Traffic Problems video previously posted except it now contains audio from a VHS version of this clip. It does start approx 1:00 minute into the video. The audio does go slightly out of sync at certain times but is still enjoyable.***
    Romford's Traffic Problems c1962 Presented by Councillor Pat Ridley. The film was made by Romford Borough Council Planning Department.
    A consideration of the congestion problems on Romford's back roads as a result of the expansion in motor traffic, and the Borough Council's plans to alleviate them.
    Shots of busy traffic around the junction of North Street, South Street, Market Place and the High Street serve to illustrate part of the problem. At the Town Hall, a moustachioed man uses maps and aerial photographs to discuss the issue further. One aerial photo shows central Romford looking north east towards Brentwood.
    On the map of Romford town centre, he presents the planned ring road taking cross traffic away from the Market Place, and the operation of a one-way system.
    Film of the Market Place shows pedestrians and road users sharing the space with market traders. Rumford's Shopping Hall appears in the background.
    More footage of traffic in the town centre concentrates on the bus routes, and how the buses crowd the roads, making it difficult for other traffic and pedestrians crossing.
    A Havering Library Service film in partnership with London Screen Archives & Screen Heritage UK.
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    ©Copyright Havering Library Services, London Borough of Havering 2014
    All rights reserved
    Any unauthorised broadcasting, public performance, copying or re-recording will constitute an infringement of copyright.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 76

  • @garybranch807
    @garybranch807 10 місяців тому +3

    Amazing seeing the uniform fleet of RT family buses working LT red, green and Green Line buses. It all looked so ordered. People moving quickly and lightly around a very busy town centre. Whether you think it was worse or better than today, it was certainly poles apart from modern Romford. Such changes over such a short period of time. I doubt many generations of people have seen such vast changes in a lifetime.

  • @silenthunteruk
    @silenthunteruk 10 років тому +10

    You've got to admit, that is one magnificent moustache.
    Interesting look at my local area in the past.

  • @williamcarrington61
    @williamcarrington61 Рік тому +2

    Remembering Pat Ridley and The Golden Lion , happy days.

  • @derekgooding9379
    @derekgooding9379 5 років тому +4

    My Dad used to have a shop in Romford at this time, and used to say that the business rates per foot of frontage were higher than those in Oxford Street London, possibly due to the number of bus stops. The advent of out of town shopping centres (Lakeside ?) and online shopping were the stuff of dreams back in those days. Romford would probably manage without a ring road nowadays !

  • @toyotaphil54
    @toyotaphil54 10 років тому +6

    Fascinating piece of history! :)

  • @AndrewMackenzie-z2b
    @AndrewMackenzie-z2b 3 місяці тому

    It was over 25 years later in the late 80's that Mercury Gardens was finally extended under the railway line towards the Army recruitment building. It brought an end to the Wacky racers circuit that went from Mercury Gdns then into Eastern Road , up South St. and then along Western Road to complete the circuit with pose points at the entrance to the Western Road multi storey and opposite Lambourne house.
    Cooking fat corner was from Ratners by the NewsHut to the junction of Chandlers Way for some extra fun and giggles.😂

  • @williamcarrington3474
    @williamcarrington3474 6 років тому +2

    Me and Pat often enjoyed a pint in the Golden Lion , those were the days .

  • @Great_WesternTVFan
    @Great_WesternTVFan Рік тому

    This was back then when Romford was in Essex before being part of Greater London, although it was attached sooner within the conurbation area with the County of London as the city's suburbs grew.

  • @aperson2330
    @aperson2330 8 років тому +13

    Believe it or not folks but in 1962 Romford was in Essex!

    • @sirpercivalsmallcock-jones9585
      @sirpercivalsmallcock-jones9585 7 років тому

      I found an old map from the early 20th century somewhere online not so long ago, and it shows that to get from central London to Romford in Essex, you'd need to travel through several miles of countryside.

    • @I974.UK.LONDON
      @I974.UK.LONDON 5 років тому +5

      And believe it or not folks Romford still is in Essex

    • @I974.UK.LONDON
      @I974.UK.LONDON 5 років тому +2

      OR YOU COULD BE IN ROMFORD IN ESSEX AND NOT TRAVEL SEVERAL MILES BECAUSE ROMFORD IS ESSEX @Read This

    • @factsnotfiction103
      @factsnotfiction103 4 роки тому +2

      @@I974.UK.LONDON
      Facts say otherwise.

    • @jonniejam-shovel6405
      @jonniejam-shovel6405 3 роки тому

      @@I974.UK.LONDON Yes, you are quite correct. Although the problem arose when Romford and Hornchurch Urban district councils merged in 1965.
      The private company; THE LONDON BOROUGH OF HAVERING, then became what is accepted as part of 'Greater London'.
      Many people honestly believe that Romford/Hornchurch are actually in London. Many think this area is East London. The media of course perpetuate, this disinformation. Havering is a London Borough. Resistance is futile. Kind regards.👍

  • @wonhung
    @wonhung 6 років тому +3

    The problems with that corner could have been sorted in double quick time by using "staggered" lights. Making Western Rd one way was a also a dreadful mistake as too was closing off North Street.

  • @trevorg6655
    @trevorg6655 8 років тому +2

    My family knew Pat Ridley. He used to live in a small cottage right behind St Edwards church.

    • @michaeltaylor5376
      @michaeltaylor5376 2 роки тому

      Pat Ridley, a D-Day veteran, quite a character, he had an attractive daughter also named Pat!

  • @chriscole1126
    @chriscole1126 7 років тому +3

    Oh how well we remember STONES with the instore delli company..Caters.This batch of scene shots gives me much nostangia of the vehicles that I can identify.

  • @I974.UK.LONDON
    @I974.UK.LONDON 5 років тому +4

    ROMFORD IN ESSEX BACK THEN

  • @kevinbarrance9196
    @kevinbarrance9196 5 років тому +3

    How nicely spoken.

    • @williamcarrington61
      @williamcarrington61 Рік тому +2

      By Patrick Ridley , ex-Officer Royal Artillery and Romford Councilman . Great person to meet.

  • @jacksugden8190
    @jacksugden8190 6 років тому +8

    Now look at in 2018, a no go area at night due crime, day times people sleep long rough - dump of a place.

    • @Great_WesternTVFan
      @Great_WesternTVFan Рік тому +1

      Eh, Romford is still better than the rest of East London nevertheless. Compare Romford to its nearby area such as Seven Kings in Ilford; Romford still looks like heaven.

    • @roodersclive8654
      @roodersclive8654 Рік тому

      Hmm, not sure about 'heaven'

    • @jacksugden8190
      @jacksugden8190 7 місяців тому

      @@Great_WesternTVFanNot sure about heaven, I remember the scene at Romford in this video in the late 1950’s onwards, until the market closed to traffic, think it’s a ghost town in the daytime, even worst at night, due to the threat of crime, Seven Kings wasn’t too bad to pass through, Ilford since the High Road closed made it harder to use buses on those ring roads, as Romford, both are now loany/sad places.

    • @Great_WesternTVFan
      @Great_WesternTVFan 7 місяців тому +1

      @jacksugden8190 I lived in Seven Kings; its dirty as hell, with alot of crime happening there too. It resembled a dirty suburb of a South Asian town. I doubt Romford is in such a state like this

    • @ahuman9143
      @ahuman9143 10 днів тому

      @@jacksugden8190 Go to Romford on any day but especially weekends, and theres still a lot of life in the town centre, sure we would love a few shops we had back but its still doing well enough, compared to the absolute hell that Ilford has become.

  • @stephenwilliams4501
    @stephenwilliams4501 9 років тому +3

    I remember bieng taken to Woolworths for a milkshake about this time.......great.

  • @jacksugden8190
    @jacksugden8190 5 років тому +3

    How could they build a ring road and try it for a month...

  • @hebneh
    @hebneh 7 років тому +1

    I wonder if one-way traffic helped? Two things that people should not have been doing, but were nonetheless - first, pedestrians were crossing against the light, sometimes walking between moving vehicles, and second, drivers should NOT have been entering the intersection if there wasn't a clear space for their vehicle beyond it.

  • @tigertony2716
    @tigertony2716 4 роки тому +1

    'Something must be done'

  • @akanaun
    @akanaun 7 років тому +3

    i was born in 62,oldchurch hospital,now i live in australia

    • @61sven
      @61sven 2 роки тому +2

      I was born there in 61. Hospital has gone now. At that time Romford was officially in Essex, in mid 1960s it became part of East London.

    • @robmorris1365
      @robmorris1365 8 місяців тому

      That will have London postcodes before long then. Nowhere is safe 😂😂😂😂

    • @DataDon-rl1mb
      @DataDon-rl1mb Місяць тому

      ​@@robmorris1365
      It has London postcodes now. RM is a London postcode due to it being in the London postal region.

  • @I974.UK.LONDON
    @I974.UK.LONDON 5 років тому +2

    ROMFORD ESSEX ,ROMFORD ESSEX, ROMFORD ESSEX

    • @I974.UK.LONDON
      @I974.UK.LONDON 5 років тому +1

      @Read This give me a 'E' ,give me a 'S' ,give me a 'S' ,give me a 'E' ,give me a 'X' ,what do ya get.....ESSEX!!!

    • @factsnotfiction103
      @factsnotfiction103 4 роки тому +4

      Romford Essex is consigned to history. Romford London began in 1965.

    • @Great_WesternTVFan
      @Great_WesternTVFan Рік тому

      Stfu it's Romford Greater London

  • @normancameron6165
    @normancameron6165 5 місяців тому

    Worst thing ever happen to Romford come a London Borough

  • @ethanmc4213
    @ethanmc4213 4 роки тому +1

    To think that this ring road killed business on the real high street that led to the market

  • @James-nv1wf
    @James-nv1wf 6 років тому

    when you say "with audio" I was under the assumption there wouldn't be VO on top of everything.

  • @garethridley-demonick5367
    @garethridley-demonick5367 9 років тому +2

    My Grandfather.

  • @CyclingSteve
    @CyclingSteve 6 місяців тому +1

    They loosened their belt to deal with getting fat, driving just isn't scalable.

  • @fridayschild4927
    @fridayschild4927 10 років тому

    The film is interesting but the audio is just awful. Slightly out of sync suggests that the sound doesn't line up with the action or lips moving but what actually happens is that you get everything twice with a few seconds delay. Oh, and the traffic is not any better here now!

  • @adghtz
    @adghtz 10 місяців тому

    Diestructed bty the words that run diagonaaly acrooss the screen!

  • @davemiddleditch9741
    @davemiddleditch9741 5 років тому +1

    Grew up there in the 80/90s... i think I prefer the 1960s version better. Proper tashes back then!

  • @AdamHiley-k7k
    @AdamHiley-k7k 13 годин тому

    Havering should definitely leave the GLA i don't understand why it wants to be associated with crap like Newham Romford is nearer Chelmsford

  • @CinemaShow-ok5vw
    @CinemaShow-ok5vw 10 місяців тому

    Well they certainly stopped the traffic and all the business. Romford is dead. Looking at the Goldern Lion junction, one solution was surley to limit the sheer numbr of buses and to change the route so not turning right into South Street. The history Romford had in the market was torn apart and these people should have been prosecuted.

  • @davidbrianhydehyde1102
    @davidbrianhydehyde1102 3 роки тому +8

    Back when romford was a lovely place, now it resembles a 3rd world country 😢😞

    • @Great_WesternTVFan
      @Great_WesternTVFan Рік тому

      Nah, Romford still looks like the best place out of East London together, especially better than nearby neighbourhoods of Goodmayes and Seven Kings in Ilford; they resemble more like a third world country than Romford.

    • @davidbrianhydehyde1102
      @davidbrianhydehyde1102 Рік тому +1

      @@Great_WesternTVFan are you made you might as well be in Romanian or some other Eastern European hole 😳😳😳😳

    • @Great_WesternTVFan
      @Great_WesternTVFan Рік тому

      @@davidbrianhydehyde1102 no I'm british. If you don't believe about my first reply, then have a look at Seven Kings by yourself one day or Ilford's town centre, it is a very dump area with so many extremists migrants living in these areas.

    • @davidbrianhydehyde1102
      @davidbrianhydehyde1102 Рік тому +4

      @@Great_WesternTVFan mate I lived in Hainault for 20 years
      Romford was our best place as kids now I would not let my grandchildren go anywhere near Romford it’s a crap hole

    • @Great_WesternTVFan
      @Great_WesternTVFan Рік тому +1

      @@davidbrianhydehyde1102 Well, Hainault is an area of Ilford but I never mentioned about Hainault did I? I mentioned the town centre and Seven Kings. You need to visit these two places and compare it with Romford and you can tell which one is more of a crap hole.

  • @vickyshah3787
    @vickyshah3787 10 місяців тому

    Romford was always a shithole and still the same in 2024

    • @vickyshah3787
      @vickyshah3787 9 місяців тому

      dont live there,, as too many chavs@ListenUp-py1qm

    • @vickyshah3787
      @vickyshah3787 9 місяців тому

      you leave first than so it improves