The Mormon Church's Role In The Increase In LGBTQ Youth Suicides In Utah
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- Опубліковано 19 сер 2024
- Utah’s suicide rate has tripled since 2007 and suicide is the leading cause of death among the state’s children ages 10 to 17. Empirical data is hard to delineate, but anecdotally and logically there seems to be a strong connection between Utah’s large Mormon population, the church’s denunciation of same-sex LDS couples and the community’s beleaguered LGBTQ youth.
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yah.
im gay.
i was suicidal when i came out to my parents. (and they knew i was recovering from self harm and suicidal thoughts)
they attacked me.
telling me im a sin.
im disgusting.
im perverted.
and telling your suicidal kid that their disgusting and that thier going to hell because they see a picture of a their opposite sex and think "oh thier cute"
ITS DUMB
why would you do that to your kid who already wants to die because of who they are and their fear of the parents out come.
its bullshit.
but hey. im still here.
its been hard. but... im here.
I'm proud of you❤ keep going!!!💖🏳️🌈
@@saraho204 Thank you, im still trying my hardest : )
YOURE DOING SO GREAT!!!! KEEP GOING!
Theo Nelson: Evil people like your parents are honestly dumber than you and YOU are much more smarter than them. They call themself good Christians, but the truth is that they will belong to the terrestrial kingdom in their next life, or at least if they continue hating gays
Theo Nelson: But again, I have nothing against you for being gay. It’s okay to be gay and a sexual orientation is something that is impossible to change.
So, I am bisexual, but I'm scared to come out to my mom because she is very mormon, and she forces me to go to church. I wish I could be both part of the lgbt community and a mormon.
Hi, I want u to know Jesus loves you. The Bible says if you have faith and Confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus u will be saved. And it also says for by grace are ye saved through faith and not that of yourselves it is the gift of God. Not of works lest any man should boast. I am a Christian and am not Mormon nor do I believe in the Book of Mormon. But I want u to know that Jesus does except you even if your church doesn't. If u wanna talk I'm here
Kind'a like being a Human and Labrador Retriever at the same time, you are either Moral or just a Bastard Dog in Heat....Your choice! Amen!
@Fluffy Panda I am a lesbian Christian. Jesus loves gays just as much as straight people! That's how he made some of us. Homophobic people like to blame religion but that isn't an excuse.
You can be! I'm gay and a Mormon :)
The truth will make you free
"One page of the bible isn't worth a life"
I didn't grow up in the Mormon church but I was in Mormon boy scouts and grew up in a church that told me not to question my beliefs. As a healthcare professional, I'm hoping I can make a change in the community for this incredibly isolating experience
growing up in the church, some of the most homophobic people i have known in my life were adults and other kids my age, in the ward i was in. maybe my ward was special but i still don't have the feeling that that the majority of mormons at least in utah are begging for the prophet to say that gay people are ok to be in the church. i get the feeling that the bishop we had back when i went to church, definitely wouldn't have accepted it, he was very culturally right wing. being transgender wasn't even really a known thing back then so that's a whole other can of worms. if one of the boys was transgender and came out, and came to church every sunday in a dress, the bishop and several other young men's/scout leaders probably would have encouraged the other boys to ridicule and abuse them about it and probably would have taken part themselves. not openly in front of everyone, but when you're in your little isolated groups in scout meetings for example or out away from everyone at a scout camp. it's the kind of thing they'd pretend to accept and say they accept when most of the ward is present because of course you don't just completely contradict something the president of the church says, but just because he declares that people should be ok with something isn't going to make their biases and bigotry disappear. anyone who thinks that is how it works is naïve, you're kidding yourself.
Believers of Cristh are mocking each other this people are only villagers from they 80$ neandertals#
Led to this video by youtube video profiling 7 suicides at a Utah high school in one year. The population exploded there, the mormons have too many kids and they are unhappy.
The preponderance of red headed Mormons is an indication of a small gene pool. Other indications are deafness and genetic birth defects. Coping with the help of prescription psych medications is common.
Very cult like, it is sad.
Galactic Maui - It’s not “cult-like” it’s a full blown cult. Nobody wants to admit it, though. It’s horribly sad.
Jim Caponzi: Thats 100% false!
@@sturggaming6759 Being gay does not mean you're in a cult. Stop spreading your homophobic lies everywhere.
In the closet living with a very active lds family, not gonna lie, I don’t believe anymore, but I feel sometimes that it would be easier to eat a bullet then be honest with who I am.
NightMare that makes me very angry and sad that you would feel that way from a religion.
That was me not long ago until I moved for college in August. I'm still not out to my family but I have friends at work who I'm open with, which is helping me to build the courage to come out. Don't lose hope, once you're independent life will get so much better
I am as well my parents are homophobic, and I'm gay they are also deep Christians. I some times fell like I should kill myself but I haven't because I have good friends.
Hang in there buddy. Things wel get better. Luv you.
Dont do that ever dont give them the satisfaction. Be who and how God made you f**** what other people think they have no right to judge you. Do you really think the creator that made the expanse of the universe and everything cares if you love a man or women ? It's the love part that he cares about. Man put limitations on God. I know god loves me for who I am. Gay and all
Thank you for reporting on this 🙏🏻
The tripling of the suicide rate since 2007 may be tied the smartphone. The first iphone came out in 2007. Gen-Z and Millennials report a high rate of loneliness and isolation, even though they are the most connected generation ever. The internet and smartphones have their uses, but they have lead to a rapid change in how people interact. It has many negative consequences. Social bullying, public shaming, materialism, individuality, and a need to belong are high. You throw in LGBTQ stigma and shame in high schools and social media and there can be trouble. LGBTQ youth in Utah also have to contend with a culture of perfectionism and pro-family rhetoric. This has to have an affect on gay youth.
The internet is a double edged sword. It can bring about negativity and loneliness, but it can also bring happiness and positivity, purely on what you’re viewing. For a lot of teens who struggle with other factors in their life (family issues, religious trauma, sexuality or gender, etc) their phone can be their escape. That was my case, growing up a lesbian teen in Utah, under a strict Mormon household. My phone was the one place I could have true freedom, and in true teenager fashion, I abused that. I wasn’t looking at positive stuff all the time, so it made my mental health worse. Eventually, I got sick of it and started over. I was only looking at stuff that made me feel better, not worse. Huge impact. My phone became a safe place, where I could pretend like my situation was much better, where I could look forward to the future in which I would have independence and live on my own. It’s important to keep in mind what you’re viewing, not to just get off your phone. That only delays the core of the issue. You need to help yourself by resisting the temptation to look at negativity. Avoid doom scrolling. If you have a hard time avoiding stuff like that, try to put your phone down more often, take up new hobbies. I started skateboarding because I couldn’t avoid it all too well, I still skate today because it’s a fun hobby and there’s so much to keep learning, no matter what point you reach.
I have seen the destruction the teachings of this cult has caused, first hand. The So-Called Church has even more blood on its already soaked hands.
The church did not allow black members until like 1975. Im not shor thats the right year but its somewhere in the 70s. The church has a lot of power. Especially in politics. The Mormon church has a high standard. If you dont meat that standerd than you start to think that this is your only option.
I struggle too, I attempt so many times for suicide because I'm in love with one of the elders who assign in my country but my experiences are condemnation and hate I feel.
Im sorry.
Any religion that rejects its own sons and daughters is no religion but rather a heresy.
*children
Being gay is totally fine.
No it isn't.
Kendal, your oportunidad and the church’s don’t fucking matter.
@@historian252
Not okay because YOU say so?
Well...you DO HAVE 1.4 billion Muslims on your side, so you're not alone....
Davey Jones @Kendall Fields it’s not because she says so it’s because we know that God doesn’t like that at all, if you’re have emotional problems it’s because it’s a trail in your life that you fight for. God puts trails in your life so you can ponder and reflect on what he really wants you to do so you can grow physically, emotionally, and mentally, stronger. He puts trails in your that you as a human can handle .
No
The lack of love and empathy from the Mormons in the comments is very telling. So glad to be out of that cult and that depressive state. Utah, take care of your air pollution first before you put your nose in people’s sex lives.
buellerferris I bust out laughing. This is totally true, lol.
There's nothing we can do, what?get ride of the mountains that create the valleys that trap the air in?
@@ryanlopez1050 theres actually lots you can do. just give it a goog.
@@skylerpoduska oh yes,Ill definitely goog it up
Please, never forget that God loves everybody.
Exactly! That's what the lds church teaches.
But it is not unconditional. God wants your money
The lds church also used to put LQBTQ+ people in electric chairs in BYU
this made me happy :) im not part of a church anymore cause i feel like they all eventually become corrupt. so i just decide to live by this on my own.
Actually I talked to God this morning He told me he hates you
I fight for LGBTQ mormon kids to be themselves & im not even mormon (sometimes an outsider perspective is important). Its the human thing to do. These kids need more love, not less. I challenge the church to do the same. Its accepted now that kids cant change their orientation...In the name of the dead but not forgotten lets move on in the most loving way possible
Dude, they just don't agree And they are human rights advocates they don't want LGBT people to kill themselves and they don't force you to join Ant they are also the true church
@@lunasvlogs5960 cultist
I'm gay and told my parents I didn't believe in gods when I was 12, i feel that due to my rejection of religion, I never went through any internal strife with being gay (I also was never bullied). My parents were very accepting of me being gay, in fact, they joined PFLAG and took in kids who got kicked out of their homes for being gay. My parents never accepted nor understood me being atheist.
Sylar B I'm an atheist because the concept of an God creating and ruling the universe is just ridiculous to me, my mind just can't wrap around such a concept. I can't remember a time when I ever believed in gods. When I told my parents I didn't believe I said, first you told me there was Santa Clause, then the Easter Bunny and the Tooth Fairy and now you expect me to believe in a god, NO! I was raised Catholic and going to a Catholic school at the time, they changed to United Methodist and put me in a public school, but I told them changing churches meant nothing to me. They never had an issue with me being gay, but they couldn't accept that I was atheist.
What you are doing is wrong.
Kendall Fields Wrong? Because your brainwashed to believe in some mythical god that you can't prove exist doesn't make me wrong. I'm free, by not believing, not carrying the baggage that religion brings. Yeah, right...I'm wrong.
No chose to be a homosexual and if there is no god then how did universe to come to be why our humans the only beings on Earth with the ability to think. God created you but you chose to be what you are. And if you are free of "baggage" then why discuss it? I pray that you find the truth that is Jesus Christ before your death.
And if you say that you were "born" a homosexual then what is the gene that causes it?
41%
Anyone down for personal bible studies? 😇🙏✨🤗🙌🏼📖
I’m not really in a fiction mood rn, but maybe next time
@@socaranectien1933 lmao
@@socaranectien1933 😂
Please visit the City Creek Mall, A Great and Spacious building adjacent to the Mormon Temple in beautiful downtown Salt Lake City
Just a shopping mall, nothing special
@@Justin-zw1hx It has a retractable roof Justin. Retract this comment immediately
and then the armchair lady loves amping things up first she claims shes immersed in the community and then she says shes on the outside of it and later she says the mormons are affecting her mental health as though shes being strung along i dont know if shes bad sick or rather mormonism is a bad tradition or not but this is a classic example of an extortionist
I'm gay and I'm working with some Mormon missionaries who have been very non judgemental and accepting of me and my homosexuality and other mental impairments.
Cory Modzeleski they just being fake nice to your face
Good luck with that. By the way the missionaries need baptism numbers, your sexual orientation is if no concern to them, you're a number that inflates their value among other missionaries and members.
Just show up for the baptismal font, take the plunge and they'll move on while you wrestle with the local clergy about your toxic shame and self hate trying to pray the gay away.
HOMOSEXUALITY IS NOT A MENTAL IMPAIRMENT
"Other mental impairments" might not be the right phrase. Being gay does not mean you're impaired.
@@vannamargittai227 In my opinion it is an impairment because it's impairing my sexual preference and causing me to be attracted to the same gender. I've dealt with homosexuality my entire life and can't think of a better way to explain it to people. Plus I notice a lot of us with homosexuality often struggle with a lot of other mental health issues, like in my case Schizoaffective Disorder BiPolar type, and a lot of other gay people deal with things like Major Depressive Disorder, or various anxiety disorders or panic disorder, that kind of thing. I see a big correlation between these things. And I'm not saying I'm right, but this is just my theory and my observations based on my experience.
bruh that’s a cult
the kid with the upper shoulder shirt is outright blaspheming the church and askinh why they dont care about him im not even sure if hes mormon because the first step from sin is repentance and he doesnt even know that
The woman at 0:43 was on a church video about how to be lesbian and still stay in the church.
Abandon religions. Leave the brainwash.
And how are religions brainwashing?
Bad religion brainwashes. Good religion enlightens. The lds church is good religion.
Kendall: They make you believe in paranormal stuff based on ancient scripts written by ordinary and creative people.
Good religion = oxymoron.
Keep up your excuses to try and denounce my faith.I pray for you.
Eye know kids who have been held hostage from there friends like they will get better.
The church preaches they are wrong and bad.
Eye grew up in utah most of my life, if you are different you get black balled. We did.
there are 5 gay and bi members living in my family and they are christian too, we have no problem, we respect each other.
I’m not blaming Religion. I blame those who reinforce religion upon the vulnerable lgbt youth. It’s terrible what some Christians and Muslims say to kids.
Because people saying homosexuality is wrong and telling people it is wrong is supposedly bad according to you.
Kendall Fields That’s because it is! Nobody can really stop you from saying that, of course, but that doesn’t make you any less of a jerk.
Shame on you Mormons!!!!! Quit being so dang hateful like my Mormon neighbor,,you Mormons need to get a life,,stop the hate!!¡!!!!
God loves all , including gay folk.
Nope
@@michaelwittmann2771 and you too
Mormaliens
morons not mormons
Look into The book of Galatians and Romans chapters 1 through 5. Put some deep thought this is spite all cults. All cults are wrong!!!!!! You can have freedom too!!!! We are a work of God we can't earn our salvation we are filthy rags all of us. Faith in Christ is what saved us. Our work will never save us!!!! Only faith in Christ!!! Good deeds and obedience are the results of the spirit of Christ living in us.
Stupid Flanders! as Homer says
I've got a problem here I keep hearing you say that it's the churches rules that you believe are harsh and it is by the leaders of the church that you blame LDS church for and you got to read your Bible it is not the church that makes up the rules it is God who makes up the rules that's what they have the Ten Commandments for have you ever thought about celibacy I know the Catholic nuns and Priests practice it but in my opinion it is not the church that is making up these rules they are following simply the Bible now I know I'm going to get a lot of derogatory remarks on this especially the fu remarks and to those all I can do is say that's how far away from God you have gotten if you got to use that language with me
Lanny Bianchi I totally agree with you. And one thing about all of this that makes me mad is that they just make the church look bad, the church offers so many resources for depression, anxiety, suicidal thoughts and all of that for them and they are the only church that offers all of that too. People always attack my church and it hurts me. I know it’s true. And I wish they could see it too. We don’t attack them or anyone for that’s fact but everyone likes to attack us.
The church also offers many resources for helping you to get molested. You can reach out to any church leader and they'll happily molest you, however this resource is only available for children 🤷♂️
I agree with you Lanny. I find it kind of pathetic that people have to make these kind of trash videos full of lies about the church. Any one that ACTUALLY attends an lds church sees that this video is completely full of lies. Same with the pathetic people that come on here just to comment crap about the church. It's sad but the internet is full of pathetic ppl :/
Lanny Bianchi catholic priests don’t practice celibacy, the practice pedophilia. They molest the children of the church.
Have you ever thought that maybe man created at least some of those books? There are how many religions in the world? Has it ever occurred that maybe not everyone is right?
Not allowing the Church to believe the way it wants is bigoted.
Bradley Greenwood I think it’s worse to let them keep on telling kids that they’re broken until they kill themselves.
But the church *is* allowed to believe the way it wants. Yes, it would be wrong to force them to believe in a way that they don't want to, but nobody is doing that. This video is just trying to show members the harmful impact that some of their beliefs have.
Stop the drugs lady..............damn
The Mormons just stick with God, if you read the Bible, you'll see, and he DOES NOT TOLERATE THIS!!! (Gen. chapter 19, Lev. 18:22; 20:13....) Remember, he DESTROYED "THE WHOLE PLANET BEFORE FOR THEIR SINS!!!!!! (except for Noah and his family)
MOTOFIENDXXX You can’t always trust books that were written centuries ago, many of Galen’s books were translated and mistakes slipped into the translated version. The bible won’t be right at all! God doesn’t hate anyone and he made them to be like that.
@@astereux4519 The Spirit confirmed it to you. If you read and study, God will have the Spirit confirm it to you.
Religion holds strong moral values
You don't need religion to hold moral values
Being raised in religion taught me some good things, but not all of it was what I personally found to be the most important morals
I am Muslim and we accept you.
Lmfaooooo get fucking real
im a cheetah
2:47 Damn, I felt the same way, growing up in poodunk Alabama, only I was ostracized by the anti-mormon culture there, and forsure, I was 100% heterosexual, but watching this, the video makes it seem like u have to be non hetero to be victimized of the LDS religion...when that rarely has anything to do with teen suicide. Its all in ur head, and what u perceive to be traumatizing to you. To blame ur shamefulness of being LGBTQ on any religion is just LOW HANGING FRUIT, and disgustingly weak. NO ONE has to accept u for who you are...only YOU NEED to accept you for who you are
Thank you very much. 💔💕💖🏳️🌈
Ive pray to a god that let every thing i love die or leave me i have no time for that he or it will send me back as usual ive seen civil war ww1 ww2 and this life
Robert lee Arnold jr Your post makes no sense. Punctuation might help,
Dirty deeds done dirt cheap
that is a great song.
Busted speed racer im not religious
@@robertleearnoldjr4424 i don't understand that comment.
The Church is not a cult, just wanted to throw that in there. The main message of the Church is a message of love, and I know that seems contradictory because of the so-called "anti-gay rhetoric" in the Church. It is not anti-gay. Those who say that, I feel, have a deep misunderstanding of what we teach. There are many principles in the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, but the most important one by far is to love our neighbor and God. Don't take "the Church" as "God." For those who are struggling with these things I would encourage you to always be in peace with God, not with the Church necessarily. I know God loves each of us and that he cares for each of us. Because we haven't been very exposed to gay rhetoric in the church, we are clumsy when talking about it, and can make mistakes that might offend, but please, don't take that as what the Church is about. God and His church are perfect, but he uses imperfect people as his instruments to help on Earth. I wish I could be there when you struggle and say "I love you and God does too," but even if I can't be, I wish that you can find comfort in love's God regardless of what members say. What one member or leader says isn't necessarily what God says. Let's make that distinction clear. I hope we can always be able to discern, and feel when it is really God speaking to us, that we can build our faith around what really matters, so when hard times come, it doesn't plummet.
Carmen Montoya hi, soon to be former member of the church. The guidelines say for LGBT members not to call themselves lesbian, gay, bi, etc, and to be prayerful about who they come out to. Coming out is not for anyone but the person, and can be incredibly liberating from shame that is brought on by being told to basically sit down and shut up. That is anti- gay rhetoric, and is incredibly damaging to young people who are figuring out about who they are.
@@cursedwithsetience4017 I agree with almost everything you said, except I don't feel that's anti-gay. Rather, I think the way we talk in the church about LGBTQ people is clumsy (meaning that it can come out as anti-gay, when it really isn't) because we haven't been exposed as much to the topic. The reason for calling LGBTQ people like that instead of lesbians, gays, etc. it's because not everyone self-identifies with the label, it's a label after all, and it's not everything someone is. I think it's similar so how the church also tells us not to call ourselves "mormons." Some LGBTQ people don't necessarily identify themselves as lesbian, gay, etc. especially if they have been raised in the Church, where it's hard to do so. And I think praying to who you should come out to is a good idea, especially if you believe in God. Precisely because it is as personal as you say it is. Precisely because we don't want to perpetuate that shame brought on people, it's important to come out to the people one feels is right to. Why wouldn't one pray for guidance on such a personal and special process?
@@thedunkirk7 I don't think I'm hot and cold, I know who I am and what I believe in, maybe I just need to be more articulate, or you just need to set aside your preconceptions for a little and read again. Anyways, I'm done with this thread.
Avoid Soy,
Adam and Eve not Adam and steve
That's your reason for being homophobic?
Juvenile
@@NonyaSmith yea biology makes you angry aorry
Suicides are not the church's fault. The church has always taught that God loves everyone, and that suicide is wrong. We believe in treating lgbtq folks the same we treat people struggling with a pornography addiction or cigarette addiction ... with love and compassion. Jesus ate with sinners because He wanted to help them. LDS Family Services publishes a manual going through the twelve-step program.
This is exactly why it is the church's fault. Instead of just loving them and accepting them for who they are, you are telling them that there is something wrong with them, that the basic core of who they are is bad.
I'm not asking you to endorse anything. I'm asking you to accept people for who they are. 'We love you even though there is something wrong with you' is not a positive message.
Kevin Ballard ... The Lord doesn't approve of homosexuality. We love people, but that doesn't mean we have to accept their lifestyles. The Lord has revealed His moral standard, and we all have to adjust ourselves to the standard. Freedom of conscience!
My own brother is gay. It's because of the church's teachings that I still love him as my brother, and make him feel welcome in the family and house.
The teachings of Jesus and the LDS church are two entirely different things and don't be fooled into thinking they are alike in any way.
you can be gay and Mormon, you just have to be celibate.
exbronco1980 so, you can be gay as long as you don’t do anything remotely gay?
exbronco1980 and you don’t see how that’s fucking stupid ?
Our Savior Jesus Christ loves all of us more than we can comprehend. He never gives us a challenge we cant overcome.... If we rely of Him! We are here on this planet to grow learn and progress. I've learned sooooo much from being married to my wife and becoming a Dad it is the best feeling in the world. I believe our Heavenly Father wants us to experience being a parent, I believe its one of the key elements to our progression. God wants us to grow learn and progress and having a family is soooo important. when I'm old and gray I hope to have grand kids that will be another learning experience.... Being gay means you will never have a chance to create a human being and God does not want us to miss that oppertunity. The ability to create life is maybe the greatest of Gods gift to us.
So if having a spouse and raising children is God’s end goal of happiness for us, why can’t a homosexual couple just adopt? Even then, it’s presumptuous to assume that just because being a father and husband has brought great happiness to you, that the same rule should apply to everyone. Although my parents derive much of their life’s purpose and happiness from being Mormon, I have found happiness on the outside.
Plus, if god is so hellbent on us achieving happiness through procreation, then what’s his plan for impotent men, infertile women, or people with disabilities that prevent them from functioning as parents or in a sexual relationship?
everyone has different challenges, temptations, trials etc. and its hard to understand Gods plan for us sometimes.... my brother and his wife have had 5 miscarriages but they appreciate life more than anyone i know and they have adopted 3 beautiful kids......lets talk Science If u had a society of gay people living on an island they would become extinct within 70-90 years! Its really hard to adopt by the way and there are so may great couples like my brother and his wife that want to adopt.
I don't believe Gay people should be able to adopt when there are tons of great couples that could give those kids a Mother and a Father.
Gays people have the ability to have kids but they CHOOSE not too by dating the same sex!!! and when they adopt kids they take away that opportunity from couples who cant have kids. How is that fair???
My wife was pregnant with twins and she had a miscarriage 4 months in. but I believe we will meet our twins in heaven. Family's can be together forever! Eternity is a looooooooooong time. The more family the better! Nothing is more important than family!!! God can help us overcome any trial or temptation through our Savior. Gay people exist because... MAN + WOMEN = Baby but if they don't follow there parents footsteps they will die and thats it... the family chain stops with them!!!!
Sim Hall You need to understand that gays can be absolutely fabulous parents, they can be both the motherly and fatherly role and it’s much better for unwanted children to be loved by a gay couple than to be abused by your kind
@@simhall3570 are you a time traveller? Because the way you talk seems like you're from the 1700s or something. I'm not even sure if you're serious or just trolling. If that's how you really think, I can say with confidence that a gay couple would be way better parents than you'd ever be. And that's a fact. And if I was an orphan I'd much rather be adopted by a gay couple than a close minded, brainwashed fossil like you.
People who are gay KNOW they can't procreate. SO?? They can adopt.
this is false
trans women are men. trans men are women.
You are not fit to decide that. You can decide if you are a man or a woman, but you do not know about anyone else.