The entire mechanics of the final dungeon being space and time and the fact that the Cetra were known to manipulate the land at will. And the temple being design to kill everything in it. Perfect theming and world building.
Someone will try correct me one day, so i'll just say, i was joking. But i will explain without joking why this theme is strange. The theme from the original FF7 is "You Can Hear the Cry of the Planet" it is played at the city of the ancients AKA the lost capital. The version i was referring to in my joke is named "Seven Seconds till the End" This is when Jenova or Sephiroth, i think Jenova is messing with the player, not just Cloud, this is the theme is heard for the first time in the Remake and it reminds OG players that this is the theme you hear before Aeriths death. So in good old Jenova fashion, shes messing with the players mind. This version, here on youtube is strange, something is off about it. the notes are off key. I've not understood that yet. I tend not to follow peoples crazy idea's and just come up with my own. I personally think Jenova is affecting memories of the past and thats why it sounds strange, i'm not so big on the timeline stuff, the Life stream and Materia is memories, Jenova has infected the planet, she alters clouds memory, so why couldn't she do it to the planet as well. Well that's just my reason for this song sounding odd. I don't know the name of this song, I don't think it's the real "You Can Hear the Cry of the Planet" The Rebirth soundtrack is out on the 10th of April and i'll get it so maybe if i remember i'll update this info here. I suspect the real, clean version will be in part 3.
Man even as someone who didn’t grow up with the OG, I was born the same year it came out, this theme and walking in to the forgotten capital, hearing Aerith’s prayer, remembering all the good times we’d had together, my stomach hurt so bad thinking about how things might go in the next few minutes.
Yeah i think during this return with buggenhagen we will also unlock the scene where cloud drops Aerith into water. Right now he is delusionnal so he erased this memory so that he can cope aerith being still alive. That's why i think we didnt see it
@@zzephi yup fully agree! I also think that’s where we will see the full true death scene as well. All of it happened just like OG but Clouds brain is too broken to acknowledge the reality.
@@biggestboss12 mmmmh after thinking a bit, i think they might put this scene when tifa repairs cloud's mind. It would be a bit anticlimatic to just put it there because we happen to comeback to the location. We would go through the 5 stage of grief. Unlocking the "Putting aerith to rest into the water" memory would act as the acceptance stage of cloud. What do you think ? If they do that i hope it doesn't take too much "place". This life stream sequence should mainly be focus on tifa-cloud past/identity
Spoils !!!! Agreed to see the scene After tifa give him back memories. But i'm not sure he sees her only because he have mental injuries. Pretty sure she is alive Somewhere. (Also during the fight against Jenova/Sephiroth WE fight in 2 timeline) aerith song (dead) Jenova song (alive) u can sée thé discuss between thé team, pretty obvious no one just die. Etc etc
The second i heard this i was hit with massive war flashbacks. Love how they remixed this. It gives me the same feelings of dread and unease that the og did. I was very disappointed that we couldn't explore the Forgotten Capital with this song playing but hopefully they will let us explore it in part 3.
That shot of Vincent sitting up on the hill showed us how big the area was, I even saw a big building in the background and was so bummed out that we didn't get to explore it. If they put that much effort into it, then it definitely has to be explorable in the next game.
@@officerzack1108later on in the game you have some things to do inside the Capital so for sure we'll be revisiting it and exploring it further in part 3, CAN'T WAIT!
Uh same… when it came on I involuntarily started crying. I remember with the OG hearing this and feeling as is something bad was going to happen without knowing it. Sets the tone incredibly! They have built on it so well in Rebirth!
@@maskofacryingclown3 I Really Wish They Did Something Similar To Aerith's Memories As Cloud Goes Deeper Into The Forest He Starts To See OG Aeris Walking Into The Forest And We See Cloud Grab Her And Say: Aerith Please Dont Enter That Place As She Hears This Aeris Gets The Same Headaches That Cloud Got And Tells Him: "Why Whats Cant I Go Back There?" Cloud Takes Her Back To The Inn And Says: "He Will Kill You Aerith I Know Because I Saw It" And Points To The Spot Where He'll Hit Her Aeris's Eyes Go Wide And Worries And Tells Cloud: "How Do You Know This I Was Gonna-He Stops Her And Answers: "Pray For Holy? Thats Never Gonna Work Aerith But Vincent Tells Her: "Lucrecia Will Stop Him Follow Me I'll Show You"
Cloud’s descent into madness the deeper the party pushed into the Temple was so well done. It was genuinely terrifying, to the point I became worried for the party. Especially for Tifa and Aerith, who seemed to be the most concerned and scared for him.
I was just thinking about this - how well Square is rewriting a story where 'we already know the ending.' The first game followed the OG pretty well, but the dialogue at the end said, "Y'all don't know where this is going, but it's Not going to be the same as the OG." Rebirth is splitting off even further from the OG, and Square is making spectacular use of facial expressions to show Aeris' hope, Tifa's doubt, and Cloud just all over the spectrum of confidence, despair, focus and being out of it. In the OG, we knew Cloud was losing his mind in theory, but he would 'snap out of it' each time, as if it had only been a momentary lapse. Here, as you say, it is a gradual descent through the game, and, well... I'm really wondering why they let Cloud come to the Temple at all. Part of the fear is watching Cloud's mind degrade, which is one of the most frightening things in human experience to witness. Part of the fear is worry about what Square is 'going to do' to this story, because I want it to have as happy an ending as possible (which might not be much, but Aeris is telling us to be hopeful). I'm emotionally invested (too much) and if they wreck the game, they wreck a part of me. I only have seven seconds left to write... what will I post with it?
This track DESTROYED me when I rounded that corner and it kicked in for the first time, completely unexpectedly at that part of the game. You Can Hear the Cries of the Planet is the single most ominous track from my childhood. Gives me chills every time I hear it. Knowing what we're helplessly marching toward in Rebirth...then this track kicks in earlier than expected...and THEN combines the Sephiroth theme AND the Shinra theme at the end!? It was so utterly PERFECT for this phase of the temple experience. Square nailed this so hard.
Did anyone else notice the 7 second count? It goes *clock clicks on* the clock then ticks down 7 times and proceeds to click off. You'd think the first and last click are part of the count by that's actually meant to signal to you the start of the count. like a go and finish sign in a race. Purposefully so as IT IS A RACE AGAINST TIME. This whole area is a nod to the original. Implementing a clock theme as we change parties. Even the trial area is a clock. Remember what Cloud keeps doing here? He keeps rushing us. It's also a nod to Sephiroth's line. "7 seconds to till the end.." giving us the illusion of control. That maybe we can beat the clock. That maybe we can save Aerith. Only for us to be playing directly into Sephiroth's hand.
It's 8 ticks, you're making things up for it to fit better with your fan fiction. The clock theme is there because this dungeon had a giant clock puzzle in the original, not because of the Sephiroth scene at the end of Remake.
@@CaptainFalcoyd Dude you're just a dick. You could have been nice and said hey, your off man It's 8 clicks, listen again. Had a conversation. Instead, you called me theory fan fiction. Like seriously, you want people to listen to you? Don't call their theories that, mind you EVERYBODY HAS HAD, fan fiction. Second, the music that plays at the ancient capital, which plays IN THE LITERAL SCENE SEPHIROTH SAYS 7 SECONDS, plays in this song. In the og, that doesn't play here. I know all about the clock puzzle. I played the og like most people. Heck the final part with the trials is literally the clock puzzle from the og. But whatever man. Have a nice day.
@@CaptainFalcoyd To be fair this song (or at least a version of it) WAS playing during that Sephiroth scene. It's not too far of a stretch to imagine some sort of connection may be intentional.
@@WaitWwhaaat The song has a literal remix of Sephiroth's theme. That- and it's the song that plays in the City of the Ancients in the original game. It has nothing to really do with the whole "Seven seconds" thing.
This whole area gave me the same wanderlust the original did. The entire rebuild series is a masterpiece and on par with OG FF7. The story, characterization, mood and all are a step up. Bravo square 👏🏾!!
I love how even though it's playing at a different part of the game (the Temple rather than the Capital), that same sense of dread that accompanies the song is still very present. However, instead of immediately preluding Aerith's untimely death, it conveys the march toward the Black Materia as Cloud's mind starts to unravel.
I don't know... the original is better I think. This one is definitely more of a doom theme.. but the original had that + an ethereal quality that I really liked.
Actually it makes sense. The song was called the Promised Land and the Forgotten Capital was the main city of the Cetra but destroyed. What I think is that Sephiroth will "revive" this capital transforming it in the new Promised Land using all the concentrate lifestream energy (thanks to the "hate" generated in the Shinra vs Wutai was) that Aeris uses trying to stop Meteor (this will fuse all the realities and worlds into one). This will create this new land in the same spot where the Cetra Civilization were living. Thats what i think. And the final battle will be in the same spot that Aeris dies but in the Promised Land version.
I don't understand at all why The Promised Land theme played in the Forgotten Capital. It's a bad place here; it's Not the promised land, and there is nothing good. In Advent Children, the song played at the perfect time because Cloud just discovered the Promised Land inside himself after he defeated Kadaj. It was so delightful because he never expected it. Here it seems meaningless. Maybe if it was in a minor key, or something...
This version isn't bad compared to the original, it just tries to be its own thing rather than being a faithful remade version of the original. And it's not particularly bad, just different.
Crazy how they just slowed down the main melody compared to the OG and added a few extra instrumentals to compliment it and it gives it a serious “Oh no/oh fuck” vibe to it
Hopefully they make this a fully explorable area in part 3, sad they didn't do it for this game. I won't hold my breath on it though, because of how much of it was destroyed in this game :(
I think (or at least I hope) the full version will be in part 3. Not sure why they played this version here honestly, should have reserved it for the Forgotten Capital
At this point it hit me “It’s coming you know it is” The clock is ticking and yet you can’t stop it. “or can you?”
The entire mechanics of the final dungeon being space and time and the fact that the Cetra were known to manipulate the land at will. And the temple being design to kill everything in it. Perfect theming and world building.
Time enough for you perhaps…. Let’s see…
The Theme of Sephiroth whispering in your ear "Seven seconds till the end. Time enough for you, perhaps."
But what you will do with it? Let's see.
You guys! 😂
Someone will try correct me one day, so i'll just say, i was joking. But i will explain without joking why this theme is strange.
The theme from the original FF7 is "You Can Hear the Cry of the Planet" it is played at the city of the ancients AKA the lost capital.
The version i was referring to in my joke is named "Seven Seconds till the End" This is when Jenova or Sephiroth, i think Jenova is messing with the player, not just Cloud, this is the theme is heard for the first time in the Remake and it reminds OG players that this is the theme you hear before Aeriths death. So in good old Jenova fashion, shes messing with the players mind.
This version, here on youtube is strange, something is off about it. the notes are off key. I've not understood that yet. I tend not to follow peoples crazy idea's and just come up with my own. I personally think Jenova is affecting memories of the past and thats why it sounds strange, i'm not so big on the timeline stuff, the Life stream and Materia is memories, Jenova has infected the planet, she alters clouds memory, so why couldn't she do it to the planet as well. Well that's just my reason for this song sounding odd.
I don't know the name of this song, I don't think it's the real "You Can Hear the Cry of the Planet" The Rebirth soundtrack is out on the 10th of April and i'll get it so maybe if i remember i'll update this info here. I suspect the real, clean version will be in part 3.
literally me everytime my microwave has 7 seconds until it finishes heating my dinner
Kids. This is Forgotten Capital ost from OG
"Oh no" in music form
This is both terryfing and beautiful at the same time. Square Enix nailed it bro
Man even as someone who didn’t grow up with the OG, I was born the same year it came out, this theme and walking in to the forgotten capital, hearing Aerith’s prayer, remembering all the good times we’d had together, my stomach hurt so bad thinking about how things might go in the next few minutes.
Her prayer was gut wrenching. She loves her people so much.
hoping a fuller version of this plays when we return to the forgotten capital with bugenhagen in part 3
I agree. This ost build tension so hard it's criminal. ( 00:00 to 1:33 )
I wonder if it is even legal to post this.
This track is dangerous.
Yeah i think during this return with buggenhagen we will also unlock the scene where cloud drops Aerith into water.
Right now he is delusionnal so he erased this memory so that he can cope aerith being still alive.
That's why i think we didnt see it
@@zzephi yup fully agree! I also think that’s where we will see the full true death scene as well. All of it happened just like OG but Clouds brain is too broken to acknowledge the reality.
@@biggestboss12 mmmmh after thinking a bit, i think they might put this scene when tifa repairs cloud's mind. It would be a bit anticlimatic to just put it there because we happen to comeback to the location.
We would go through the 5 stage of grief. Unlocking the "Putting aerith to rest into the water" memory would act as the acceptance stage of cloud.
What do you think ? If they do that i hope it doesn't take too much "place". This life stream sequence should mainly be focus on tifa-cloud past/identity
Spoils !!!!
Agreed to see the scene After tifa give him back memories.
But i'm not sure he sees her only because he have mental injuries.
Pretty sure she is alive Somewhere. (Also during the fight against Jenova/Sephiroth WE fight in 2 timeline) aerith song (dead) Jenova song (alive) u can sée thé discuss between thé team, pretty obvious no one just die. Etc etc
The second i heard this i was hit with massive war flashbacks. Love how they remixed this. It gives me the same feelings of dread and unease that the og did. I was very disappointed that we couldn't explore the Forgotten Capital with this song playing but hopefully they will let us explore it in part 3.
For me as well. Easily in my top 5 FF7 themes.
That shot of Vincent sitting up on the hill showed us how big the area was, I even saw a big building in the background and was so bummed out that we didn't get to explore it. If they put that much effort into it, then it definitely has to be explorable in the next game.
@@officerzack1108later on in the game you have some things to do inside the Capital so for sure we'll be revisiting it and exploring it further in part 3, CAN'T WAIT!
Uh same… when it came on I involuntarily started crying. I remember with the OG hearing this and feeling as is something bad was going to happen without knowing it. Sets the tone incredibly! They have built on it so well in Rebirth!
@@maskofacryingclown3 I Really Wish They Did Something Similar To Aerith's Memories As Cloud Goes Deeper Into The Forest He Starts To See OG Aeris Walking Into The Forest And We See Cloud Grab Her And Say: Aerith Please Dont Enter That Place As She Hears This Aeris Gets The Same Headaches That Cloud Got And Tells Him: "Why Whats Cant I Go Back There?" Cloud Takes Her Back To The Inn And Says: "He Will Kill You Aerith I Know Because I Saw It" And Points To The Spot Where He'll Hit Her Aeris's Eyes Go Wide And Worries And Tells Cloud: "How Do You Know This I Was Gonna-He Stops Her And Answers: "Pray For Holy? Thats Never Gonna Work Aerith But Vincent Tells Her: "Lucrecia Will Stop Him Follow Me I'll Show You"
Try 1.25 speed for a more nostalgic feel.
Cloud’s descent into madness the deeper the party pushed into the Temple was so well done.
It was genuinely terrifying, to the point I became worried for the party. Especially for Tifa and Aerith, who seemed to be the most concerned and scared for him.
I was just thinking about this - how well Square is rewriting a story where 'we already know the ending.' The first game followed the OG pretty well, but the dialogue at the end said, "Y'all don't know where this is going, but it's Not going to be the same as the OG." Rebirth is splitting off even further from the OG, and Square is making spectacular use of facial expressions to show Aeris' hope, Tifa's doubt, and Cloud just all over the spectrum of confidence, despair, focus and being out of it.
In the OG, we knew Cloud was losing his mind in theory, but he would 'snap out of it' each time, as if it had only been a momentary lapse. Here, as you say, it is a gradual descent through the game, and, well... I'm really wondering why they let Cloud come to the Temple at all.
Part of the fear is watching Cloud's mind degrade, which is one of the most frightening things in human experience to witness.
Part of the fear is worry about what Square is 'going to do' to this story, because I want it to have as happy an ending as possible (which might not be much, but Aeris is telling us to be hopeful). I'm emotionally invested (too much) and if they wreck the game, they wreck a part of me.
I only have seven seconds left to write... what will I post with it?
This track DESTROYED me when I rounded that corner and it kicked in for the first time, completely unexpectedly at that part of the game. You Can Hear the Cries of the Planet is the single most ominous track from my childhood. Gives me chills every time I hear it. Knowing what we're helplessly marching toward in Rebirth...then this track kicks in earlier than expected...and THEN combines the Sephiroth theme AND the Shinra theme at the end!? It was so utterly PERFECT for this phase of the temple experience. Square nailed this so hard.
One of my favs from the original
Thank you so much. I have been looking for the Temple of the Ancients version ❤️.
You're welcome.
The theme and the area it represents shows this place is not meant for humans, but to contain pure evil and malice.
This felt like rising dread when it started playing.
When I heard this in the Temple of the Ancients, I thought "Oh God... they're gonna do this aren't they?"
Did anyone else notice the 7 second count? It goes *clock clicks on* the clock then ticks down 7 times and proceeds to click off. You'd think the first and last click are part of the count by that's actually meant to signal to you the start of the count. like a go and finish sign in a race. Purposefully so as IT IS A RACE AGAINST TIME. This whole area is a nod to the original. Implementing a clock theme as we change parties. Even the trial area is a clock. Remember what Cloud keeps doing here? He keeps rushing us. It's also a nod to Sephiroth's line. "7 seconds to till the end.." giving us the illusion of control. That maybe we can beat the clock. That maybe we can save Aerith. Only for us to be playing directly into Sephiroth's hand.
It's 8 ticks, you're making things up for it to fit better with your fan fiction. The clock theme is there because this dungeon had a giant clock puzzle in the original, not because of the Sephiroth scene at the end of Remake.
@@CaptainFalcoyd Dude you're just a dick. You could have been nice and said hey, your off man It's 8 clicks, listen again. Had a conversation. Instead, you called me theory fan fiction. Like seriously, you want people to listen to you? Don't call their theories that, mind you EVERYBODY HAS HAD, fan fiction. Second, the music that plays at the ancient capital, which plays IN THE LITERAL SCENE SEPHIROTH SAYS 7 SECONDS, plays in this song. In the og, that doesn't play here. I know all about the clock puzzle. I played the og like most people. Heck the final part with the trials is literally the clock puzzle from the og. But whatever man. Have a nice day.
@@CaptainFalcoyd To be fair this song (or at least a version of it) WAS playing during that Sephiroth scene. It's not too far of a stretch to imagine some sort of connection may be intentional.
@@WaitWwhaaat The song has a literal remix of Sephiroth's theme. That- and it's the song that plays in the City of the Ancients in the original game. It has nothing to really do with the whole "Seven seconds" thing.
This is what “I have a bad feeling about this” sounds like. What a masterpiece!!! Thanks Uematsu!!!
man when i heard this start playing with headphones on. i never smiled so damn hard in my life
This whole area gave me the same wanderlust the original did. The entire rebuild series is a masterpiece and on par with OG FF7. The story, characterization, mood and all are a step up. Bravo square 👏🏾!!
I love how even though it's playing at a different part of the game (the Temple rather than the Capital), that same sense of dread that accompanies the song is still very present. However, instead of immediately preluding Aerith's untimely death, it conveys the march toward the Black Materia as Cloud's mind starts to unravel.
The one i was waiting for the most ...so beautiful and what a good remix
I don't know... the original is better I think. This one is definitely more of a doom theme.. but the original had that + an ethereal quality that I really liked.
I wish it was 7 ticks of the clock
this is the moment i started freaking out
Amazing scared soundtrack
I love this song
This should have switched places with that Advent Children theme they played in the Forgotten Capital.
Totally, I was kind of disappointed they didn’t play this in the forgotten capital
Actually it makes sense. The song was called the Promised Land and the Forgotten Capital was the main city of the Cetra but destroyed. What I think is that Sephiroth will "revive" this capital transforming it in the new Promised Land using all the concentrate lifestream energy (thanks to the "hate" generated in the Shinra vs Wutai was) that Aeris uses trying to stop Meteor (this will fuse all the realities and worlds into one). This will create this new land in the same spot where the Cetra Civilization were living. Thats what i think. And the final battle will be in the same spot that Aeris dies but in the Promised Land version.
I don't understand at all why The Promised Land theme played in the Forgotten Capital. It's a bad place here; it's Not the promised land, and there is nothing good.
In Advent Children, the song played at the perfect time because Cloud just discovered the Promised Land inside himself after he defeated Kadaj. It was so delightful because he never expected it.
Here it seems meaningless. Maybe if it was in a minor key, or something...
This version isn't bad compared to the original, it just tries to be its own thing rather than being a faithful remade version of the original. And it's not particularly bad, just different.
My stomach dropped when it cut into sepiroths theme wow...chills
I places it reminds me of the night king music by Ramin Djawadi, the one good thing about the last season...
I Hear it the Clock The 7 Seconds to the End.
seven till the end ,perhaps what will you do it , lets see
1.5x speed sounds identical to the original
kinda sounds like OWA near the end
Crazy how they just slowed down the main melody compared to the OG and added a few extra instrumentals to compliment it and it gives it a serious “Oh no/oh fuck” vibe to it
Hopefully they make this a fully explorable area in part 3, sad they didn't do it for this game. I won't hold my breath on it though, because of how much of it was destroyed in this game :(
This game didn’t destroy any areas. We literally had everything remade and we visit the forgotten capitol in part 3 not in rebirth
@@scqvenger Watch a playthrough of the game towards the end again, Sephiroth destroys the Forgotten Capital
The thumbnail is a little out of touch my friend. Play the game.
No where near as good as the original, lacks so many prominent instruments
I think (or at least I hope) the full version will be in part 3. Not sure why they played this version here honestly, should have reserved it for the Forgotten Capital
Agree, the original is on another level
There were a lot fewer instruments in the original version
They changed way too much here. The original was better. Much better
terrible compared to the original
This version is incredible