Is Pikmin 4 Worth the 10 Year Wait? (No Spoilers)
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- Опубліковано 24 лип 2023
- Pikmin 4 has been taking over my life for the past couple days, and I have to share my thoughts on it. There's so much to enjoy with this new game, and it's super exciting to have new Pikmin content to talk about and discuss. I had a blast playing through this game, and I'm so glad this series is back in the spotlight. What can I say, it's peak man.
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So turns out time doesn't actually come to a total stop in the caves, instead it's 1/6 of the normal speed. But time does stop if you're at the end of the day. My bad for getting that bit wrong
it moves at 1/6th the speed, but pauses at the ten second countdown. also dandori caves DO seem to pause the timer since ive spent plenty of time trying to platinum some challenges by restarting over and over, and time didnt seem to move.
so yesterday i full 100% the entire game and i have to say the difficulty spikes around half way and trying to do the final dandori challenges were difficult but fun as always the olimar side story was a blast a much faster pace then the first game and all the lovely characters you get to meet and talk to are amazing to id say this is the favorite out of the series though i do miss the alone feeling of 1 just a bit.
Pikmin has allways been gameplay over story so its a fair tradeoff
@@joenormal1854 Def from 2 onwards but I'd argue pikmin 1 one of the best minimalist stories from Nintendo
So since you’ve 100% it, is the story a reboot or a continuation of the first 3 games?
the final night expedition makes me want to rip my eyes out
Dude I clicked on the video because it said no spoilers, I don’t want you endgame impression on the final stuff
To me the best improvement is the sense of PROGRESS!! Filling up the base with rescued characters, some of which will provide information, challenges or quests for you, upgrading your character and Oatchi, getting new gear, I really felt like I was achieving something as I progressed through the game
Although I love the quests, they all feel quite the same. Most of them you don't have to backtrack to do. Imagine instead of "kill 500 enemies" it was "kill 5 bosses" or "kill 100 bulborbs in caves". A bit specific but I would love the quests more for that!
Best character is Kingsly btw
But you didn't achieve anything. You just sat in front of a screen clicking buttons
@@charismatic9467 you didn't achieve anything either by sitting in front of your screen typing this message 🤨
@@frenchbloo Good thing it only lasted a couple seconds
@@charismatic9467tf is yo problem
I was a bit hesitant on purchasing this game since i have no experience/nostalgia factor for this series (im 21 currently) but oh my I’m having a blast! The opening music feels so cozy and the gameplay is so unique compared to most stuff I usually play. I’m thinking of just getting the first 3 as well so i can keep playing lmao
The split screen for dandori is hugely useful for using items and planning around what your opponent is up to. The dandori was fantastic
It´s so surreal that we literally waited 10 yrs and 8 days for the sequel. It might be my favourite Pikmin. (And I just completed 100% on it).
It´s probably a bit too much text for me. Sadly, I never got a connection with the rescue team members because they basically chill at the base camp all day long and don´t go with you on the adventure (unlike Charlie, Brittany and Alph did).
They’re also by far the most generic characters in the series
As someone who's played a ton of Pikmin I enjoy near every moment of this game and the difficulty spikes of getting the white and purple Pikmin. The lock on works most the time but I definitely agree it is cumbersome at times. I dislike the auto stop when throwing Pikmin on something especially when it's close to night and the game is preventing me from throwing more Pikmin to make them move the object faster.
As a pikmin veteran the lock on system and pause after throwing the minimum number of pikmin is pretty much my biggest complaint, i miss the precision of putting a pikmin exactly where i want or targeting different collectables in a pile. I also typically put a few more pikmin than necessary on items to bring them back faster but it also makes sense for the dandori battles. They just need to add a toggle for those, ultra-spicy mode, and collin
Agreed. The lock on system and pause between throwing things sometime combine to make a legitimately frustrating experience where you legit have no control over what you're doing. The game pretty much strips all of it from you, and it feels absolutely horrible. It doesn't happen many times, but the fact that this happens AT ALL holds the game back a little for me. There's also the fact there's absolutely nothing to do after you 100% the game, which is alright, considering the game is a pretty good length (would be nice if it was just a bit longer), but it still kind of sucks.
@@carnage0685 im the type to 100% every pikmin playthrough so yeah i dont really hae much else to do now:/ there were times though where i lost a medal or two in a dandori level because there were items in a pile and i had to take so much time to actually get the right amount of pikmin onto it
@@deeb1324 oh im a pikmin 2 vet all i know is pain
Haven't gotten very far in the game, but I'm loving it so far. My least favorite part is definitely the excessive tutorials that interrupt what I'm doing, but it's so minor in the grand scheme of things. The game is gorgeous and incredibly charming and I'm having a blast exploring. And caves seem like they're a lot better than they were in 2! Pikmin 4 is definitely PEAK(min).
Really good video, and I personally agree with a lot of the stuff said here! For my personal thoughts on the new throwing system, the auto lock-on is mostly nice, but somewhat defeats the purpose of using ZR as a lock-on button. I personally find the throw limit to be really annoying though, but I understand why it's there. Personally, I love to sometimes throw double the Pikmin for the weight limit of an item so it travels back to base faster, but in this game to do that I have to throw the minimum amount, wait, make the auto target turn off, and then throw the Pikmin around the item but not at the item so they walk to it. I understand it's done to make new players not throw too many Pikmin at an item and then they forget about those Pikmin until the end of the day and they get left behind, bit it still would be nice to be able to turn things like auto lock-on and the throw limit off.
I just finished the main campaign and am in the post game, haven’t even dug into olimars side game, loving it so much. It’s easy, sure, but I actually like that. I hope it’s a big success, because Pikmin needs its chance to shine. This is an excellent game, brimming with charm and tons of content, made with a lot of attention to detail and loads of love. Thank you Nintendo.
As someone who played pikmin 1 & 2 a lot as a kid I love all the subtle Easter eggs and reused mechanics, soundtracks, locations, etc. from the original games
Game feels more like an adventure game than a timed tactical game. I like it more than all the others!
woah your reviews are getting better and better
I never played 3, but played 1 and 2 a lot and have huge nostalgia attached to them. One thing I always felt about the first two was although the graphics and feel of the game is cute and cosy the game play kinda had me on edge all the time. Losing a batch of Pikmin is almost too sad and it put me off the wanting to take risks. This game feels like the stakes aren’t so high with the rewind option and there’s a cosiness element that I always wished the first two had. I love it!!
I’m glad you’re enjoying it!
I really love watching your videos! ❤Love from germany! :)
I absolutely loved playing this game and really curious to see where it ends up ranking for me. 1 is still my favorite and 2 my least favorite and can't really decide between 3 and 4. I think 3 is a more consistently great game but it's also significantly less game. 4 has a lot of little things that bother me and it really adds up but the experience was enjoyable almost the entire way through. I'm also shocked and thankful for how much content we did get. If this was a game the length of Pikmin 3 after the long wait it would've been really hard to swallow.
In response to how veterans feel about some of the changes, specifically the lock on and the pause when you hit the required number of Pikmin, I strongly dislike them. I think they're probably good changes for a new player but for me it caused a ton of frustration. Tbh it's really fine for the main story but it's a real problem in the Sage Trials.The lack of control cost me runs for the platinum medals because I could not get the game to let me do what I wanted to do and it's infuriating. I don't understand why they can't just have a toggle for it. It's really nice to have in some situations but being on at all times is a major problem for me. I hope they could patch in an option but I highly doubt they do that.
I'm also not sure why but i find these areas very forgettable compared to the other games. Don't want to sound too negative though. I absolutely loved the game and was squealing with delight every time i saw some enemy or reference to another game. It was a joy to play.
I’ve completed every game in the series except for Pikmin 2 and I would mostly agree with you although the stopping at the exact amount can be useful although it should be able to be turned off in the options menu. And one fell jump needs to be rebalanced.
Glad someone mentioned the curser thought i was the only one find it frustrating at times but as a vetran miss the old curser and rng which felt more lively like the the real world never know what happens but this game is for more beginers so i understand it being this way so this will be my second fav pikmin so big props to nintendo glad people liking pikmin finally lol
It's more relaxed and it's the most fun I've had with a Pikmin game
For me it's hard to separate my love for the original difficulties with the real amazing gameplay we've been given here. The lock on being of of the biggest "flaws." For any beginning player it's a great tool. For anyone returning, it would have been nice to have a few more control options!
Yeah turning it off should’ve been an option. Even if you just wanted it off for the caves or high enemy areas.
There's so much content in this game, I found myself impressed at least 3-4 times while playing through, and I'm hard to please
I love the auto target but it absolutely should have had an option to toggle off, there's one challenge floor in the post game that really sucks because of the auto lock
Agreed, the game is way to easy
@@o0junglist0o93 I disagree there I never said anything about the difficulty of the game and the post credits content which is like half the game steps up difficulty wise and includes some of the most challenging content in the franchise
Honestly Pikmin 4 may very well be my favourite pikmin game. I absolutely loved it every step of the way, truly a beautiful game and I had so much fun. Already wishing I could experience it again for the first time ☺
Overall, I love this game. And by the way, finally getting white and purple onions is a godsend.
I’ve been wondering wether together this game or not, but now I think I am! Thanks for the help lol
THANK YOU FOR NO SPOILERS! Most reviews have spoilers, and i dont know why, like we are seeing the review to buy it, not ruin the story for us
I recently got this game hot off the heels of getting the first ending of Pikmin 2.
I bought the two games on Switch and beat the first one effortlessly like I always did on the Wii. Played the second for the first time and it was a lot to handle XP
Played the 3rd entry WAYYY too many times on both Wii U and Switch so I skipped it to jump to 4 (Still loved it!)
4 is a HUGE improvement over the last three games! Never before have I felt so in control and actually thinking and working with the pikmin! I freaking love this series!
Ur content is awesome dude
This is my first pikmin and i love it. Look forward to playing the other 3
I think 4 trumps all the past games I just wish Groinks were in 4 I know a lot of people don’t like them but I love them
Yeah, careening dirigibugs too!! Miss them both but I guess i can understand why they weren't included
I wish Bulbears could revive, that was such a cool and scary feature they had in the past
bad take pikmin 1 reins supreme 😍
@lukamagnotta666 Agree to disagree tbh, especially since pik4 includes something later on for the pik1 diehards that I'd say has a better take on its core mechanics/gameplay loop. Trying to be vague haha
@@Nymphxoxo yes it does have the perfect atmosphere but lacks all the new pikmin types that later entrys get id still say its better than 2
Time doesnt stop in caves in 4, its explained 1/6th of the time you spen in a cave passes above, there were tomes where i dove into a cave when the day was 80% through and when i emerged again the countdown for sunset sstarted
I’m a pikmin Veteran and I would say Pikmin 4 is very decent, but I do have issues with the game.My issues with the game is that it was WAY too easy, didn’t struggle at all especially with the dog by your side, just made the game ridiculously easy. Only thing that was a challenge was trying to get platinum on a few Sage leaf challenges, but other than that the game was disappointingly easy. The 3 pikmin type limit was sad, I was lowkey excited to bring out every type at once, but oh well. The bosses are honestly horrible in this game, if you have ice pikmin and/or spicy spray they just get melted. The two new pikmin types were very cool, but overpowered, the game is already insanely easy with the auto lock on, items, and the dog, and on top of everything you can freeze monsters? Just wish they had way more sage leaf challenges. They can easily make the game harder if they have difficulty options where the monsters attack more often, and have more health based on your difficulty. You could even make hazards insta kill which would make the game more challenging. I think the rewind feature should not be in the game, it takes away the little bit of challenge it even has. Some positives are the game is gorgeous, the dog while overpowered, is super fun to use and upgrade. The sage leaf challenges were super fun (especially if you’re a perfectionist like me), the upgrade system was interesting, the few new monsters are very cool. The level designs are great too. 8/10
When I tried first dandori, it was like my brain was put on the table next to me (so many button misclicks, so many dog throwing instead of pikmins...). I thought it wasn't for me at all (thought i would be able to skip it.... I was so wrong !).
Then, by completing the story and finishing the game I really upgraded my skills and took back my brain :D
I have all platinium on dandori and timed challenges and had a lot of fun doing them !
Pikmin 4 is the first Pikmin game that I completed 100% with the 3 ( that I found too short tbh)
This game is incredible and I hope it will have the success it deserves, because the improvements in tthe gamplay are really good.
This entry in the series has become my new favorite. I was expecting it to be great but I don’t know if I was expecting it to be THIS great. Personally, I don’t mind the auto-lock & throw limit, I still end up throwing more pikmin once they start carrying though.
I was skeptical of the auto stop on throwing at first, but with the overall increased speed in Pikmin carrying things, I only had a handful of times in the whole game where I really needed more than the required amount. The auto stop is in my opinion a nice addition. No need to count in your head anymore everytime you throw Pikmin
I absolutely love pikmin, and Ive used stick controls for every game(I've only played deluxe for 3). There's so much to love here, the game looks stunning and is so expansive, you can tell they put a lot of love into this game. But there's so many little things that hold it back for me, the biggest one being I did not expect going into this game that it would have the worst controls of the entire series(imo).
There's the auto lock on which has been touched on to death. I get that they want it to be accessible which by all means I'm on board with, but give the option for more advanced controls. There's also also halting your throws when reaching the lower limit on anything, this is something that we would do ALL the time in all the other games and now it just feels clunky. the only time i appreciate it is when I'm throwing all of one type on a hazard, but its just not worth the inclusion. and some smaller things like only 1 pikmin picking up a pellet when you throw 2 at a posy, and charge(especially oatchi charge) returning making combat against anything that's not a boss a joke.(this ones preference though, not everyone cares about combat/difficulty)
I will say though while this stuff was wearing on me throughout my play through, the game shut me up and drew me in just as much. While the story/and characters didnt really land for me, there was so much creativity on display here. If they add more options down the line this game all these issues could be completely fixed, I'm hopeful. On that note add a sound setting menu as well. I couldn't tell if the music was just lackluster for the series, or if it was because it was just too quiet.
something a little incorrect here
time does pass in caves, but its at 1/6 the speed (which the game mentions). So if you go inside a cave, a little bit of time will have passed through the overworld. 30 minutes in a cave will equate to 5 minutes in the overworld and the overworld is 15 minutes a day
There is a full pointing system with gyro underneath the targeting system and theres a lock on sytem. I just wish there was an option to turn auto targeting off.
I made my character to be smallimar, olimar's son.
"I'LL FIND YOU DAD!"
Time does not stop in caves it moves at 1/6 the pace and can't move past the 10 second countdown
I'm mostly satisfied with Pikmin 4 only issues I have are it's too easy I wish there was a difficulty setting, while it's not a deal breaker I would have liked there to be a online multiplayer option for those who want it, the pop in for me can get distracting and take me out of my immersion
Yea I’ve legit had maybe 20 pikmin total die so far (to just 2 enemies) and I’m a good 8 or so hours in. Most enemies are killed before they can even attack once. As a fan of the absurd combat and brutal caves from pikmin 2 it’s kind of a let down in that regard, but every other part of the game makes up for it right now and I’ve at least heard the post game content is far more difficult
as a veteran player, i love everyting about this game, aside from the fact that the lock-on feature can't be switched off, but it's not enough of an issue to negatively affect my opinion
The single thing I’m most grateful for in this game is that you can autocomplete the dandori levels and it still counts towards your 100%
I think Pikmin 4 is great and I really have no problems with it except the crew characters design feel a bit un finished and they look to much like the character creator models because that's what they were probably made with. But I give it 10 stars
I personally really loved Pikmin 4 after I 100% completed it. As a Pikmin veteran, I can gladly say P4 is an amazing piece in the franchise.The graphics are beautiful, the gameplay is fun, and the challenge is there. I think this game is an excellent introduction for new pikmin players, even though all pikmin games are different in my opinion.
The only real gripe I really have with P4 is that the auto-lock does NOT have any way to turn it off. I really really did not like this feature. I've had countless instances where I wanted to target something besides what my autolock wanted to target, and I end up throwing my pikmin in the wrong ways. They really need to patch in a way to turn that off, especially in later challenges where your pikmin diversion really matters. I always enjoyed aiming my pikmin using the cursor as I want, spamming the throw-pikmin button like a madman. This game did not allow me that, and I was very disappointed with that feature. If I could just turn it off, this game would be 10/10 for me.
You know that you can switch what your locking onto, right?
Pikmin can't interact with anything that you can't lock onto, so why would you need to turn it off?
@@Cole_McGill
Because it's restrictive and annoying?
I am aware you can switch while I'm being auto-locked on something, but it's clunky. Sometimes the option doesn't even appear when it should, with multiple targets in range.
There's especially some instances where there's many enemies/interactables, and my auto-lock doesn't want to target the right one when I try to "switch targets".
Your question is just silly. I should be able to throw pikmin how I want without an auto-lock feature forcing me to throw pikmin a certain way. Especially since I've been able to do so in literally all of the other games...
Have you even played the game?
@@abluntuser940 yes ive played and its very intuitive. I've never had a problem with the autolock. Its worked perfectly everytime(except for things at higher elevations, but that wasn't even really possible in earlier games, not like how it is in 4).
I've played over 40hours(not actually sure how long, this is a low estimate).
With how you've talked about this, it really just sounds like you expected it to be a certian way and couldn't adapt.
The lock on is better for performance and ease of use(if you've played any game with a lock on feature).
I'm sorry that you weren't able to figure out how to use the lock-on mechanic.
But honestly, who is throwing their pikmin, just press X. Complaining about auto-lock when the swarm button makes throwing obsolete in most situations, shows that you've only made the game harder for youself.
@@Cole_McGill
It's not as though the game is unplayable with the auto-lock feature, but I am way more than okay with criticizing the feature because I don't like being restricted to how I want to direct my pikmin. I am allowed to complain about an annoying feature that I can't turn off. Especially when it wasn't a problem in all the previous main games...
I shouldn't have to be forced to target something I don't want to target every time I happen to walk by it, especially when there's multiple targets.
It sounds like you haven't 100%'d the game yet. There are some sections much later on where you can have up to 10-12 separate things pikmin can target in the same range, and the auto-lock feature will easily get in the way if I want to toss them. The auto-lock doesn't even allow the user to toss pikmin from different angles, which is a big yikes in caverns with the endless abyss.
You mention the swarm feature, but why would you want to swarm everything? There's plenty of instances where it's objectively better to just toss a few pikmin instead of commanding an entire squad to rush or swarm the target. I definitely don't think it's "most" situations like you state.
Throwing really should be just as easy as being able to aim where I want, and toss, just like all the other pikmin games I've completed before it.
Your reply is just snobbish and narrow minded. Auto-lock should not be forced on players. It should be an option, just like everything else in this game.
FYI there is always recommended Pikmin for your area, I usually just tap “X” for auto unless I’m going deep diving and need all blues. It never steered me wrong
5:30 I hate it, its the worst of both worlds. The motion controlls might as well not exist only being useable when holding throw or whilstle? or using lock on.... thats dumb. I want to be able to back up while throwing pikmin if i get to close, I litteraly cannot.
The auto targeting should be mapped to a button, like the left or right trigger.
That way, the auto targeting is only on when you want it to be
Pikmin 4 is such a fun game, 100%ing this game is going to be a blast
Surprised this isnt a 30 second clip with a 25 second intro, followed by 4 seconds of silence and a "yes"
Knowing the pikmin community, this is what i expected 😂
I’ve been convinced they wanted a larger budget, released deluxe version before releasing the 4th so that they could add more
I didn't even have to watch the video yet to know that it's gonna be dope! Definitely watching this later 🎉
I just got pikmin 4 the other day and I have to say I’m really enjoying it the pikmin carry out tasks a lot quicker like digging for treasure carrying things etc and even tho I thought the enemies were abit to easy to take down it’s not as annoying as the other games whille I agree maybe the game is much easier then the first three games that’s not a complete game wrecker it’s just good to get new players into the game
I really enjoy this game so far.
Funny is that the main skill in this game, that improves or is challenged isn't the characters strength but the Players Dandori.
😂
I think my only issue with the target lock mechanic is how sensitive it is, I think it should probably have an option to toggle how easily it locks on would have been nice.
I did also kinda miss the space shot a bit. I guess they might've decided to not lean into it too much given how much more blatant the world is ours in this one, so giving a space shot which imo emphasises a more alien planet and space explorative feel, might've not been congruent with the idea of 'hey look this is Earth', though it would be in line with the perspectives of the people/crew which is exploring a relatively unknown planet to their knowledge (or atleast an alien one). Maybe they decided to remove it cause not having it creates a more 'base building/home base' feel when you stay settled in one place instead + like Nintendo Hero already said, it gives the planet a more permanent (and 'impactful') presence, like a town, which arguebly enhances the feeling of community vs just everyone in a spaceship going into space everyday.
As a vet I hate the new auto lock on as well as the precise number of Pikmin throw system and the game is way too easy in the strategy is lost overall
I don't get why they have the time rewind mechanic when there isn't a day limit in Pikmin 4 anyway so if your Pikmin die you can just grow more.
11:45 actually I've never had that kind of problems when I went with the recommended pikmin in the areas
The very first change I noticed when first playing was the auto lock on and I gotta say I’m not a fan compared to the previous system. My favorite part of previous pikmin games was the freedom to do whatever I wanted
Caves don't really come to a total stop It's more like time gets really really slow because while I'm making this common I just exited a cave that entered around almost the second to last thought in the day and when I exited it it was the final countdown of the day
You're not supposed to pronounce the "K" in Lumiknoll. It's a blend of the words luminous (to shine) and knoll (a mound or hill). Where knoll has a silent K.
I wish there was an option for full screen dandori battles if two players each had a copy of the game. The split screen isn't ideal
As someone who until recently has only played and beaten Pikmin 1, yes. it was worth the wait, because I wasn't waiting. lmfao.
Played through Pikmin 2 entirely about a month ago, and then started 3 shortly after.
got a gamecube new, and pikmin 1 as my first game. played pikmin 2 when it came out. never had a wii u so never played pikmin 3.
i loved pikmin 4, the auto targeting was annoying in a few instances. but generally great. i think it could have been improved if it detected that you threw a pikmin at an enemy who was going to die by crush damage. then refused to lock onto it. and maybe also locked onto nearby enemies with priority over treasure.
i still had a habit of counting my pikmin throws myself, but eventually learned to let go with the auto stop on right number.
Only down side about this game for me, is that for the first time, I feel like it needs a NG+ just because of the upgrade system. The final few upgrades would have been great to use if they were available earlier in the game, but the only way that would be possible is with a NG+.
Honestly ice pikmin weren't that good imo. They always freeze the enemies whenever you have them in your party so if youre trying to grow your pikmin population it hinders it especially if youre trying to grow the ice pikmins population and only theirs. Also i dont really like how no enemies respawn after a certain period of days so if you break every character with ice pikmin you can only resort to the flowers.
I'm mixed on the new throwing system fir the exact same reasons I think it is better for collecting but worse for combat as it limits your control when you need it most
8:09 Time doesnt stop in the caves. It slows down to 1/6 the speed, and the dey wont end in a cave
The k in the word knoll is silent and is the case in lumiknoll as well
I don't mind the lock-on system all of the time, but in some cases, it is impossible to throw at the right target. I wish that instead of ZR doing a super lock on that holding ZR would bypass the lock on, making it feel more like Pikmin 1 or 2's cursor. That way I have the option to throw in the direction I want without all of the possible targets being in the way.
My game of the year. I’m loving it
tl;dr - yes it absolutely is and if you have ANY interest in leading an army of adorable creatures then get Pikmin 4 right now!
I just beat pikmin 4 and I have to say that it’s good but something feels off about it. I feel like it’s missing the charm that all of the other games in the series have. Don’t get me wrong, It’s a really good game but just something about it doesn’t feel right to me. I don’t know how to describe it. It’s probably just me though but I definitely think Pikmin 3 is better. I also have a lot of little problems with 4 that start to pile up after a while
I do think the identity of the series has changed a bit with 4, and I'm sure everyone will feel differently about that. For me I like the new vibes but I can totally understand why you might not
@@NintendoHero its missing something
@@cloverkip The more nature documentary type of vibe or slighty more gritty atmosphere maybe
Edit: Nvm the caves had some of the slightly more gritty atmosphere i guess
It might also be the less alien or wilderness looking environmental aspect, this entry being a lot more grounded in a more blatant garden environment.
@@cloverkip OMG ITS YOU, the man, the myth, the legend, the guy who soloed a water wraith,
@@The76532 no i got help from the 1 purple pikmin
I like the idea of auto targeting, but I wish there was an option to turn it off in settings. You know, for players who like the extra bit of challenge
You can use bombs for a lot of stuff even the ice gates....helps you mutlitask without havin to grab a specific pikmin
They need it to be more gloomy less vibrant. Like the first. It made you feel alone ... loved it
I've only got one problem with this review, and it may be a nitpick, but time does not come to a complete halt in the caves. Time slows a 1/6 of time on land, which doesn't all too bad but some of the later caves need to be handled early and fast if you want to continue exploring the surface.
Along with that, being a veteran of the Pikmin franchise for around the time Pikmin 3 was released on Wii U, I have to say that this is my favorite in the franchise. Not by a whole lot, since Pikmin 2 is still very much up there, but there are so many changes in this game over P3, P2, and even P1 that this feels like a fresh start that I hope carries over to the next console.
Pikmin 4 is good but the post game is really good
Good to hear. What is the postgame without any big spoilers?
@@jasonmann3775two full areas, access to a simplified side mode of pikmin 1, a way to get white, rock, winged, and purple onions, a super challenging time trial mode and the "true" final boss.
I've been playing for awhile now and I think imo overall this is my favorite Pikmin game to date in terms of content, polish and most definitely enemy variety! It takes the best parts of all 3 past games and blends them all together masterfully in 4! The difficulty level may be an issue for some, but overall the difficulty is very similar to that of Pikmin 2, it starts out fairly easy, but there is definitely a noticeable difficulty spike towards the mid-game by the time you reach the 3rd area and beyond; The difficulty spike won't be too much of problem for Pikmin veterans to adapt to, but it will probably give newcomers to the series a run for their money in some of the more difficult late-game caves and dandori challenges.
Pikmin 4 is an embarrassing new low for the series and Nintendo. And this is coming from a 20-year long Pikmin fan
I agree with most of what you say, except the difficulty stuff. The only thing I even remotely has trouble with was the last night mission, but even then I got it first try. The game just never really revs up enough to REALLY make veteran think. The last mission of the leaf sage was the only think where I actually had to strategize and turn my brain on.
@@WalmartWhite.you're like 1 in all pikmin fans sayin this
@@Xf3rnaPlays it's not my fault 4 is a visual downgrade from 3 and it's not my fault they lazily copied multiple caves one for one from 2.
There's no way that this game was in development for nearly a decade. This game deserves a $40 price tag
the skill expression of the pointer even in 1 and 2 , but especially 3 is sort of sorely missed , but i get why they made the change and i think it suits what this game is going for .
maybe they will patch in the option to disable it
i think my biggest gripes with this game so far are that the first two areas feel too easy , and that the side missions are all stuff you’re doing anyway and not really anything exciting or creative .
that and no challenge mode co-op . i played pikmin 3’s challenge mode with my sister for longer than i played the main story and we were looking forward to doing that again
The co-op in general in this one is really lackluster and disappointing.
Personally, i think the pause is nice for me, but i do want the option to toggle it. It gets really annoying when there's a pile of raw material (not the bunched up ones, but singular ones that are somewhat close to each other) and I'm forced to take a pause after every single throw.
Next time, try pressing x. It swarms the selected pikmin type around the object(s). If you want to double up, press it again(after the rest of the swarm has returned to you).
8:15 there is a time change in the cave like I will enter a cave mid day and the end it will be night fall
pikmin 4 is not the first time the timeline has been change. pikmin 3 takes place in an alternative version of 2
Playing & replaying this series frequently for the last 20 years!
Wow. The sense of isolation is out in favor of building a team. Being timed is more of a gimmick now.
Dandori only has 6 stages, less than other games. Bingo Battle and Capture the Marble modes were more exciting.
Overall the gameplay is pretty great, Nintendo can simply add modifiers to Dandori and a higher difficulty setting.
I've 100 percent completed the game and it is my new favorite game in the series
It nice 5:32 only issue is the auto lock into enemy’s
I wish there was a turn off option
In my opinion Pikmin 4 is the best one for beginners because you can rewind time if you’ve lost a lot of Pikmin
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YES, PIKMIN GODS AND MIYAMOTO ANSWERED MY PAYERS
My only complaint is that it’s not a sequel and that really bums me out but I love the game
100% the game yesterday and I got say it was worth the wait
There's a few aspects of the game I find a bit too hand-holdy, the auto-target in particular really bugs me... but now that I'm in the "post-game", the game has really opened up. And of course, who can't help but love Oatchi? The way he can swim while carrying Pikmin adds a lot to the game.
I wish the delay between the right amount of pikmin thrown was a tad shorter but its not a minus just a preference
dont get me wrong, the game is good, if this was the first pikmin game i played it would sell me on the series
but i dont think anything will be able to match 1 and 3(dx)…
its minor jank, hand holding, and lack of time limit made the main story an absolute drag
however, olimar’s side story was a blast (though id love a harder difficulty with 15 days, or more to collect), the maps feel large with lots of space that serves little purpose, while i suppose more realistic it loses the charm of the first 3s miniture gardens
i played through the game in multiplayer which made the whole thing a joke, you get constant free items and most bosses are made redundant, additionally theres tons of sequence breaks and shortcuts. this leads me to believe the multiplayer was untested.
the entire thing screams spin off and does not feel faithful to formula the first 3 games set up, and was finally close to mastery at 3dx.
for the sake of my own sanity and enjoyment of the story, the lore here isnt canon. pikmin 4 shouldnt have been mainline pikmin, imo.
as i said, a good game, but when compared to the other games it’s close to being worse than 2, saved only by improvements to pikmin AI
also the new camera and lock on is ass, 3’s controls where fine, did not need a rework.
they took a charming RTS game about collecting, planning, and mortality which urged me to try and optimise each decision and movement to… a generic nintendo game just about collecting for a 24 hours or so with nothing making it unique enough to replay
While I do completely disagree with basically everything you said, I also wish Olimar's shipwreck tale would be harder. On the other hand the 15 days might be a challenge for new players.
What I don't get: You blame the lack of urgency in the game and then mention Pikmin 3? That game never had any urgency except the first few days. After that the fruit potions pile up so much that I never had the feeling I need to play efficient at all.
I like the new fresh style the game has. It feels like a genuine, modern Pikmin with the charme of the prequels. I don't think this one or the older ones are better. Both styles have their own advantages.
I did not deep-dive into every little thing in the game (despite 100%ing it today), but it does not necessarily breaks the canon. It seems more like a complete separate adventure that Olimar is on.
Never played the Switch Port of 3, but I enjoy that the controls feel snappy and I don't waste my time on stupid Pikmin that will run against a wall instead of around it. I barely ever had to go back to get a Pikmin, who just wasn't able to simply follow me, into my squad.
Not sure how I'd rank the games, but I assume Pikmin 1 is the worst of them.
2, 3 and 4 all of their unique charme. 2 with the amazing caves and new funny lore with Louie, 3 with the beautiful and big levels and 4 who combines all aspects of 1, 2 and 3 while adding great ideas, such as Oatchi, which allows for a higher skill cap.
@@Rocky712_ play mission mode or on ultra spicy! 3 has a difficulty problem as well, but its no where near as bad as 4 which feels like the tutorial never ends.
@@penwozhere Ultra spicy is Deluxe-exclusive and not the normal difficulty. It was made for people that want a challenge on purpose, which I like.
Pikmin 3 feels like a tutorial until you reach the fourth area, which is mainly because it has such a linear structure. 4 has a lot of dialogue for sure, but the tutorial parts are just some short clips, similiar to the data nodes you find in Pikmin 3 here and there. It's always annoying to rush Pikmin 3 until I got all 5 types, because before that exploring an area is somewhat useless.
But I'll not consider that as a critique. It's not meant for first playthroughs.
Pikmin 3 for Wii U definitely was easier than Pikmin 4. The areas and boss fights in 3 were 100% focused on the new Pikmin type you find in each area. It makes it kinda predictable and boring, although it also has its own charme (reminds me a bit of Mario Bros Games), while 4 focuses more on exploring with multiple pikmin types.
And the missions are (more or less) part of the Pikmin 4 story, which actually pushes beginners to play better.
The mission mode on 3 for Wii U was challenging (at least the free ones I played), but it was entirely separate from the main game, so not relevant for story mode players.
@@Rocky712_ pikmin 4 is only story mode, it gives no options for people like me who want a different experience, which, at the least, 3dx did. the mission modes are my favourite part of 3 being something i actively enjoy doing, where in 4 im doing the same ride on oatchi, get item, wait, platinum. until near the very end where i have to start doing half of what 3 had me doing. even if 3 was easy, it was at least punishing, it didnt have saftey nets. unlike 4 which feels like making baby steps towards the end, with zero chance of losing any progress. this makes 3’s difficultly, small, but interesting. and thats kind of what pikmin is all about in my opinion.
i glad some people are enjoying 4, so i dont want to bum them out. but i am a bit sad that i dont enjoy it, because i really wanted something great.
I think Pikmin 4 should have two different ratings. It's the best single player Pikmin, but the worst co-op Pikmin. It really sucks that P2 was reduced to a FPS. You can't move as P1 or P2's shot will be messed up and they have nothing to do if you've killed everything. My 11 year old was bored more often than not as P2 (and so was I when we'd switch who was P1 to be fair,) and really hates he can't just be Oatchi since Oatchi can do everything a captain can do and then some.
ETA: Pikmin veteran- auto-targetting causes more trouble than good when trying to fight. I've lost way, way too many Pikmin when trying to attack one enemy, then a second after. Once ones's dead, the game still tries locking onto the dead body more often than not, so the Pikmin are trying to pick up a body. In something like fighting two Emperor Bulbax's, that brief second trying to get the autolock to lock on the right target can end up with 10+ dead Pikmin. Just adding an option to turn it off when you want, so you can turn it off on big fights where you can't swarm and easily kill multiple enemies, would be a vast improvement.
8:02
actually, it doesn't. Time moves slower, but it still moves. You can test this yourself if you really want. Go to an area and immediately jump into a cave. Wait a few real life hours, and then leave the cave. You'll likely come out to the 10 second countdown.
beat the game in 3 days and it was the most fun i have ever had
imma have to say hard no, the forced auto aim is objectively worse. theres no telling how many times its screwed me over wasting time targeting junk and getting my pickmin killed cuz of it. small fast enemies that i can LEAD MY pikmin to hit them now just move out of the way cuz of the autotargeting. I just want to hit the dang leaf on the ground, not auto target my pikmin picking up a carcass amidst a horde of enemies. idk what nintendo's problem is; CONTROL SCHEMES. toggle auto lock, theres already a hard lock on button why the freak does auto lock have also be forced. and toggle npc dialogue in the field. they're annoying. only russ and bernard are cool cuz they dont freaking ubisoft tell you how to play like the rest do all the time.
other than that the game has been really fun. its been very easy, a lil too much, but I also am yet to make it to post game so at least with the beginning caves i wish they were longer. enemies not respawning is lame but the night mode is exhilarating allowing you to go all out with the glowmin. i personally don't like the olimar dandori battles but i do like the leafling dandori challenges. And, if anyone who is reading this is curious, my personal experience with pikmin is ive only ever played marble battle with my brother on pikmin 2 gamecube when we were young and pikmin 3 bingo battle, only ever watching him play pikmin 2 and 3. prior to pikmin 4 tho i have 100% marathoned all 3 games in order on switch. my favorite controls are the pikmin 2 switch aiming with motion control active when hold pikmin. the analog and motion movements aren't switchy and fennecy like 3 and more egregious 4 allowing for smooth and precise aiming to hit enemies where you want which is important. pikmin 2 control with pikmin 3/4 toggle targeting, why in space and time is that such a hard concept???
Agreed on the auto lock. Those fights with the double Emperor Bulbax's it really screwed me over. Kept locking onto the dead one trying to carry it off while the second ate them, or would try targetting the one with full life instead of the lower life. 3's ability to use L & R to cycle between targets was the better system, IMO.