The ANC is failing the black people regarding education and jobs,There are less jobs for poor black people now than in the Apartheid era which is actually shameful
+Black Pride You are soon full of "pride" that you have become a person who cannot make sane decisions or judgements. The world and world view has changed so move ahead or stay in the stone age.
+Ethiopian Rainbow you have no chance because you are unable to see beyond the immediate - whites built South Africa out of nothing, mostly empty land - Africa would still be in the stone age without the whites and you would be sitting round the cooking pot outside your mud hut, probably with your views the best place to be
Correct! Great analysis! When there will a greater or larger African middle-class, there will also be more respect. What's needed, is more educated and economically independent African people in South Africa, there will come more respect. The lack of respect is also due to the economical and educational gaps between groups.
As a Cape Townian I myself also am aware of racism, but I do experience this from other cultures as well. As been mentioned because of the diversity of cultures in this country alot of the people struggle to embrace one another. The behavior vissible is that every culture has their own ethichs and that is set as the norm for each group's ideology. Compromising with a different culture is unacceptable. But there are people that do respect others, but they are in the minority.
As a expat South African it hurts me that after all this time, citizens of SA.still think of themselves as a so-called black, white, coloured.Why not US or WE. We need to change our ways of looking at ourselves and be one regardless of whatever. Change mean change not reversal.
The majority of the citizens have moved on. Sadly many still teach their children the old ways. Both black and white. The one gentlemen mentioned the they were 6 people living in a little shack. They have been like that for 16 years.....indicating that the 21years of the new government has provided them with nothing. In any community you will have people focussed on the bad and who are stuck in the past. Let them be and let them dig their own graves. Those of us who choose to live better lives and live in harmony with others, we are the ones who are truly free. We need to stand together and show South Africa and the world that there is more good than bad in our country.
@@AreYouKenneth they done a documentary where Jewish communities were bring forced to go into work. Being told top jobs are waiting for them, just do some studies and its gauranteed. Nobody else in the world has a luxury of being forced to work, THEY NEED TO WORK TO SURVIVE.
@@AreYouKenneth u can dig it up ur self. but they targeted the ultra orthodox jews, as originally they were not a community that worked, but one who more was into religion. now the government have so many well paid jobs they cant just give to anybody, so now they are forcing the orthodox jewsish community to put down the bible and work baring in mind how seriously jews take the lie thay they are the chosen people. and how serious they take the tasks assigned by god himself. but because they so greedy they are exposing themselves loads of content mate
I`ve never been to South Africa, but what i can see from this video is that racism is still a very touchy subject over there. Awesome video, it`s nice to have this as a discussion group. I just cannot understand why it is so hard for some people to have, at least, respect for each other. Up here in Canada, it is exactly what you mentioned in the video. Today people live more in harmony, but there is still a need to preserve First Nation territories and their traditional knowledge properly.
Thank you for that. I very much agree with you regarding Canada. I absolutely love this country, I do believe we have a lot to be proud of and there are certain Canadian values that really unite us, which in my opinion people who come here should be open to. At the same time, with regards to our First Nations communities, we need to acknowledge what happened in the past and I also believe the culture of the First Nations and their history needs to receive more attention.
Bahador Alast That`s true and twenty years is really a very short time to expect a deep change in people`s mind, mainly from those who lived during apartheid. On the other hand, you guys should be really proud of the live you have today. Of course, we always have internal problems and so on, but hope time will guide you to a more comprehensive and respectful environment.
Bahador Alast I wonder if you knew that South African Apartheid was based on the apartheid in Canada? Today Canada is a modern Apartheid so Native Americans aren't forced to live in the reserves but, the many do. interesting read www.tgmag.ca/magic/mt3.html
3:41 seconds is how far i got..... I used to be proud that people called me a hippie and that i had such an open world view. Now many years later i came to realize that the 60-70's was the time we were attacked and our realistic view of everything/our humanity got destroyed. Touchy feely men/boys and butch women/girls...all trying to figure out who they are when ..well they are human beings. We are white or pink. We are western civilisation. Other races come here because of the amazing things we have created. And we have lost our sight to see how special we are.
Apartheid has earlier roots than when the 'Dutch Afrikaner minority' came to power by popular vote via the National Party. In fact early origins can be traced back as far as 1776 when the British implemented the first race-based land act in the British Cape Colony. Notably the British arch imperialist Cecil John Rhodes was a super racist and dreamed of a United South Africa in which the white man would rule supreme, exactly what he got after defeating the sovereign, independent, anti-colonial Boer Republics by means of methods of barbarism. The newly established British Union of South Africa implemented a plethora of race-based laws, including a 'morality' type act. It was from these prior principles that Apartheid rose and hence Apartheid can not be associated with 'white Dutch Afrikaner minority' alone. Interesting that the media of the time only aligned themselves with the blacks' cause AFTER the N.P. came to power. Also, the pass laws was introduced by the British, so was the practice of ringing bells after sunset to chase all non-whites out of town. Furthermore there were plenty of English speaking South Africans who also supported Apartheid.
THE BANTU EXPANSION The notion that Black people migrated from West Central Africa downwards to the South a 100 years after the Whites had settled in South African is utter nonsense and if you research it you will quickly discover that there is no archaeological evidence or any genetic evidence that has been conclusive enough to substantiate that such a mass migration ever took place but the validity of most studies and at best this White Theory is solely based on linguistics. The similarity in the languages is the only submitted argument, there's no DNA proof Mr "Williems" because just recently a Cultural DNA study was done and the Genetic study involving 220 participants representing 11 populations across southern Africa , revealed around 2.3 million DNA variants per individual, according to the journal Science this challenges the theory that modern humans came from just one place in Africa as well. So let's revisit the story of who the Khoisan are? THE KHOISAN were not a Southern African Tribe but they are descendants of Slaves who arrived with the Dutch East India Company and the term Khoisan was coined by Leonhard Schultze of Germany. (Please read: Oxford Research Encyclopedia - African History - Slavery at the Cape and Ethnology of Africa) I have copied an extract from the Oxford Book and it reads "Slaves were transported to the Cape from a wide range of areas in the Indian Ocean world, including South and Southeast Asia, Madagascar, and Mozambique. The majority were sold to settlers and worked as domestic servants in Cape Town or as laborers on the grain, wine, and pastoral farms of the Cape interior. Throughout the 18th century slaves outnumbered settlers. Although there were few major revolts, individual resistance was widespread and desertion common. Some runaways joined indigenous groups in the Cape interior, while others formed more isolated maroon communities." What happened to those maroon communities? They became what is now known as the KHOISAN and this name was established in 1905 Leonhard Schultze. So now let's focus on the man who gave them this name Leonhard Schultze, he was a Zoologist and Anthropologist. In his research he says that in Southern Africa he discovered two groups of people and they were the Hottentot and the Bushman which he later compounded into the group called KHOISAN and he says that the word Koi came from the Bushman when referring to the Hottentots. Okay, so where does the word Koi originate from then?. Koi or more specifically nishikigoi (錦鯉) is an informal group of the colored variants of the Cyprinus carpio. Several varieties are recognized by the Japanese. Koi varieties are distinguished by coloration, patterning, and scalation. Koi are Japanese fish! Remember earlier in the Oxford extract. It says that slaves who ran away joined indigenous groups in the Cape interior. We all know that when two different races mix, a multiracial child is born. Hottentots and Bushman (Maroon Communities) they were similar in terms of their built and features but varied in color, why? Bushman runaway slaves who fled into the Bush and did not want to join the indiginous groups (Marron Community) and then the Hottentots ARE THE GROUP OF SLAVES WHO JOINED THE INDIGENOUS TRIBES --- even the word Hottentot is a Dutch word from German hotteren-totteren ‘stutter’ (with reference to their language, in which clicking sounds are used). In Southern Africa we all know which groups of people use Clicking sounds. the NAMA are located in the North most parts of Southern Africa and even to this day can be found in Namibia ( also home of the HERERO people), Mozambique, Zimbambwe, South Africa (Most around the Kruger National park) and the NGUNI people( Xhosa's, Zulu, Ndebele, Tsonga, Sotho etc.) If you check the map the closes tribes to Cape Town has alwas been the XHOSA's and they have predominantly 5 clicking sounds where in the case of the Nama they have three clicking sounds. Okay let's focus on the Hottentots again. If it is true that Schultze took the word Koi-koi from the Bushmen who themselves used this term to refer to Hottentots (meaning that the Hottentots were indeed mixed race) then this proves without a measure of doubt that in fact they were descendants of those slaves who were Asian and lets not leave out the fact that Schultze himself was a Zoologist who had traveled the known world and he must have known about about the Japanese Fish called the Koi which is distinguishable by it's coloration. Either way Khoisan is of foreign origin. Schultze named them Koi-koi --- due to their multiracial features and please I know some of you try to say that Khoisan are the NAMA people. They are not Khoisan and this is most evident in their language. Which brings me to my final point. Khoisan people use Afrikaans and the development of the Afrikaans language can also be attributed to slavery. Slaves came from many different places and spoke different languages but the NAMA like their close relatives the NGUNI and HERERO use Clicking sounds when they speak...Click Click Click. Remember what studies say about THE BANTU EXPANSION most of the studies use similarity in our languages to prove we are from North African and if you search you will find that all the African groups in the Southern Territories use Clicks, all of them except but one and that is the Khoisan, they mostly use Afrikaans. A language influenced greatly by non-African languages. So how can they be the original people? I Xhosa and my name is Cumani and Mr Williams says he is my great grand father and yet his surname is European, a name of a slave master and that's a fact. White people are trying to write us out of our history... research about Willie Lynch and then google South African Shacks...see who pops up! Another thing guys. We know that in South Africa we have an existing Ethnic group of Colored People. I am not in any sharp or form saying that they are Khoisan. I was informed by my Colored colleague that they are two separate groups as well. I just pointed out that the Khoisan are also mixed race and I acknowledge them as South Africans like I acknowledge White South Africans as well but I just wanted to set the record straight. NGUNI people are not children of the Khoisan! Wee need to respect each others identities if we aim to succeed as a Multicultural society!!!
Interestingly enough the first goverment in South Africa to build schools and universities for blacks was the Apartheid goverment. Before that, all British colonies relied on mission schools.
+Rowan Quatre did you just say powerless, all western countries are backing white people. And by the way white people own 50% of the land even though they are 10% of population.
+Rowan Quatre there is wanting wrong about your opinion, you are saying that black people can't do anything and if white give back the lands than people wil die starvation. To be honest that's white supermacy. And that's what white people used to think before apertaid and after
+Rowan Quatre yes i have heard about it. And you are right about educating black people. I don't want south Africa to be another Zimbabwe but if majority of people get oppressed and feel discriminated in their own country it does anything except violence, so there must me solution fast.
The neighborhood segregation has nothing to do with racism. It has to do with the way humans are wired, in that they feel more comfortable with their own kind. That's why Polish have their neighborhodos in Chicago. Chinese have Chinatown in San Francisco. It has always been like this historically, that people of the same background settled togethor, because they feel more comfortable with their own kind. But I DO agree with that guy's comment on the ANC. It's the same in America. Black people still blame slavery for Black opression in America. And what kind of Democracy is it, if one party has been ruling over 20 years? That's no different than Communism.
I actually agree with you. As long as they're not murdering innocent people it's perfectly reasonable to treat others the way you yourself have been treated. I personally wish everyone could just forget the past and live in harmony together, but that's not how the world works.
briantravelman so clearly you dnt see what ANC has already done ? first you must put your brain back to your head sir & think straight . south africa was made fo 8% population e.g power stations were for white ,hospitals, university, economicaly ,etc .now you expect the ANC in 20 years to uplift 80% of south africa & expand every thing in same time while you know tht our gorvment dipends on tax .you must tell me how long it takes apartheid gorvment to build white south africa ??? am sure it was more than half century
briantravelman Ya But whites where slaves too for 1200 years but you will never hear a black talk about that right. They just won’t to still the white men history it’s said. Get your own. Let us tell are history and you tell your. There is slaves on both sides.
Interesting! It seems like you really got a pretty good perspective of the situation there. Great idea to integrated a variety of footage to make the video interesting.
Melissa Manson In some countries, extra marks are given to women in order to encourage them to go to University. This is because girls do more work in the home in comparison to boys. This gives the boys an unfair advantage. When the same ideology is practiced with different colors, suddenly quarrels and complaints. It is true that most businesses in South Africa are Afrikaans owned. In order for black folk to be seen, they have to push. Since they can do nothing about the business ownership situation besides opening shop, they will make good use of the employment one. Its all politics.
I think there is nothing more enjoyable than spending time with people of different races and nationalities. We have so much to learn from the others,if we could just stop being so arrogant, the world would be a better place.
That's true. Knowing History is important but it shouldnt be imposed on young generation to plant hate\bitterness in their hearts. We honestly need to move forward from other things
Whenever that guy with the sunglasses and blue shirt spoke I listened because it was a pleasure listening to a non-racist, intelligent person stating that it wasn't a race problem, but more a poverty problem, we have to fix things.
I got half way through this before realising who made it! Have you done a video comparing Afrikaans to Dutch? I was in Rome 12 years ago and I got a Dutch guy and an Afrikaaner together for a conversation to see if they can communicate and it worked. I was so pleased 😄
I was planning on it once but all 3 of us agreed that they're too close. They (the Dutch and Afrikaans speakers) said it would be too simple and they'd easily understand each other haha
I'm sorry; I must be looking at this entirely differently. Would someone please tell me how the "whites" are racists when the ANC regime has around a 100 - possibly more - pieces of legislation based on race. I even recall seeing a job ad some months back where it actually listed races from black and ending with white. That people - yes the ANC and their like minded ilk - still blame apartheid and whites for something that happened 20 plus years ago astounds me. What about the racism in sports like cricket and rugby. I look forward to the day South Africa faces sporting isolation because of the racist policies implemented by the ANC. There are a few realities that need facing up to here. The ANC are fascist, racist bigots - if racism was wrong under the National Party then it is also wrong now - the ANC cannot have it both ways. All those people that are trying to appease the ANC need to wake up. The ANC has done tremendous harm to South Africa and it is about time they were also consigned to history. It is also time that when the ANC and their followers start throwing up the race card then they should look in the mirror in order for them to see what a modern day racist is. I will not hold my breath though.
sir your response is so ignorant please go and educate yourself on why white people are racist. Look at your post it's clearly racist, you're the problem.
I experience racism on a daily basis for the last 21 years.....I am pushed aside because I am white....I put up wit BEE, AFIRMATIVE ACTION and Race Quotas daily I don't have a say ....That is Racism no mater how you look at it..... You hear all about correcting the wrongs of the past ....well those racist policies are just driving a wedge between the races ....
umfums Oh, that's nothing. My mother just showed me a video in which white South Africans are beating black children during apartheid. Poor children! Being beaten, killed, mutilated and massacred just for their color in their own continent. That's sad. And you're here whining! Amazing!
Mirquella Santos What makes me sad is how gullible you are. You think that's bad, i'm a white female born in 1993, i never asked to be born to this country but i was and I am a south african even though the public say i am not, My cousin was 11 years old when a black man kidnapped her, raped and sodomized her and then killed her, i wasn't apart of the apartheid but i am being punished for it just like many other whites born in the 1990s, you don't come from this country so you wouldn't know.
i am from Nigeria and i think the big lesson of the day is that ;you cant always have a sense of entitlement on a structure that your people didn't build .the European settlers built south Africa and have a subconscious sense of ownership of the place .in Nigeria the blacks built Nigeria, whether its substandard or not is a discussion for another day .Nigerians are not familiar with racism in africa because the have always felt a sense of freedom and ownership on the continent .Black south Africans could learn from us
Trevor Uzomah Nigeria is a shithole on top of a shithole, you see how stupid as a suffering Black you sound speaking on other suffering Blacks. Nigeria ain't shit to be proud an absolute toilet bowl that place is. All of us have work to do, one section of blacks should not speak down on another group when as a collective suffering the effects of white supremacy and Islam. Keep your mouth shut next time bootlick.
Looool i see where u at , so u jealous that South Africa is better than Nigeria ..well in case u didn’t know black peoples where there during construction actually they were the ones doing most work and paid less just like USA
The guy at 18.56 went to a priviledged private school you can hear that by his accent. People in South Africa call them oreos. black on the outside but white on the inside. The girl at 19.00 also went to a good school. Race has nothing to do with it. socio ecomonics. A black person in America will speak in Eubonics unless his parents choose to send him to a school where he learns to speak english
the last part is actually wrong. what you are referring is not a language related to Africa or the Caribbean (in other words eubonics) it is american. actually while are at the only ones actually speak English are the english everything else is creole
donna jackson don't be an idiot, in SA we have this huge difference in socioeconomic status simply because of what white government did to black communities.. so yes it is all about race
This shows so much, the same experiences around the world, as every country deals with the "operational" realities that are the common aftermath of institutionalized segregation. It is impossible to legislate people's attitudes which will only change through universal growth as expanded understanding and learning. We can each contribute to helping create fairer, more just societies; certainly this is not simplistically political change, it is a change in how each of us helps each other to expand holistic learning about universal human values. Thanks for giving us a "realistic" view of the current situation for the people who are experiencing these conditions and changes first hand. So often, what we think is going on, is not what the operational truths of others, are.
brownbear900 It just shows what an ignorant idiot you are! It is a website for ALL South Africans, black and white and about the TRUTH in South Africa. It has nothing to do with racism. If you really took the time and read what it is about, you would realize that... And, It has many black followers... oh sorry, maybe your intellect is below average and you cannot read or understand the concept.... Crawl back into the shithole you came from...
A friend of mine was born on a white farm in Johannesburg. His entire family lived on that farm as live-in farm workers. The farm was their whole world because during Apartheid that's how they ate. But the owner of the farm did with then whatever he pleased. He raped mother, uncle and child (boy). He was there until the late 1990s. But after the end of Apartheid, his family slowly could move unto other job opportunities. Up until now, my friend never went to school. His childhood was spent farming sometimes with his bare hands, eating scraps of food and being raped by an old white man. So when people say Apartheid was better for everyone, my whole body convulses.
those who say Apartheid was better are ignorant racists. Don't be surprised though because even in America you have Black and White people who say things were better during slavery
The problem in South Africa is, when Nelson Mandela was elected President in South Africa, he never brokered a deal , with the Apartheid government for Economic Stimulus plan for Black South Africans and there should have been a Reparations Bill for the black South Africans. Black people in South Africa must demand Economic integration.
Now the ANC government has had more than two decades and still unemployment climbs, the squalor increases, regime corruption is doing its best to best continental standards, institutionalized racism blossoms on the law-books... These are simple facts that prove only one thing: things are not as simplistic as Marxist rhetoric wants us to believe. I read that even my old alma mater (one of the two at least, namely Fort Hare University), confirms their disgruntlement with this regime, and have rejected the ANC at the SRC polling stations in favour of the DA. The hackneyed view of white oppression and black suppression doesn't tally any longer, as it doesn't improve anything for those who truly suffer. Do yourself a favour and ask WHO the "whites" are that have pillaged the actual gold reserves of the SA Reserve Bank, and who else profited.
Where ever the white man has gone, racism has followed. it is odd how you come up with these policies on everyone else's land when you are the indigenous man of NO land but Europe.
Reconciliation is the way to go. Let's rise above superficial things such as skin color, "race"(social construct), ethnic origin to help each other to make the world a better place!
1:20 Wrong. Historically the true inhabitants of the Cape were only the Khoi San. Settlers came after that. The settlers then encountered the first Xhosas at the Fish River (Eastern Cape). Xhosas only came to what is today known as the Cape because of economic activities and opportunities there (whether it was forced or voluntary migration).
History tells me that the real Khoi and San people ( not fake khoisan people who speak alian language as their home language like Afrikaans) are the part of Xhosa.
Of all the countries I have been to, visited, lived in, I am sorry to say that South Africa was by far the most racist. The segregation levels between races is so highly visible, this also affects social and educational levels in society there. It has by far a much more racist system than the Deep South ( US). Whites are by far the wealthiest and most educated group, while Blacks are by far the poorest, most unemployed and least educated. A perfect example, most maid or domestic worker are Black in over 90% of the cases are Black and most bosses in 80% are Whites. There are still places to this day in that African country that who would not even serve Africans ( Black) or at least discourage it, despite the fact that most workers would be Black. To my surprise, many South Africans regardless of the color aren't even aware of how powerfully racism entrenched in their own society at all levels. Now the strong inequalities between groups or "racial" groups are main cause of great frictions. Both Blacks and Whites are however victims of the most racialist colonialist system in Africa brought by the British and the evil Apartheid regime brought by Boer/ "Afrikaner" nationalists. Any intelligent person knows that there was already a subtle segregationist system before Apartheid in South Africa. Superiority and inferiority complexes are therefore inevitable, this means superiority complexes shown by White South Africans, especially among the Boers more so than with other Whites and inferiority complexes shown by Black South Africans is universal regardless of tribe or ethnic affiliation and is part of their daily lives, though they are mostly unconscious of that. Although, I can attest that great progress has been made ever since 1994, the road to justice is still long. With a high scale of available education and a narrowing of the gaps between the very wealthy and the very poor will help a lot to heal the racial wounds. The excessively high crime rate is directly linked to the great educational and social gaps, no rocket science is needed to understand that. Even Whites need to be fully re-educated on their perception of their Black countrymen, changing from their excessively racialist or racist arrogance to a more analytic understanding of the impact of the damage made by colonialism and Apartheid on the vast majority of the South Africans not just socially but also psychologically! This was made in order to protect their minority right for so long. Black South Africans have to aspire to the great task of social improvement of their own society or societies and not always count on Whites for that ( healing comes from within). The "counting" on Whites is a sign of inferiority complex. Proper education and reconciliation not bias ones is the ultimate key to solve South Africa's racial problem!
This was a very interesting doc. N a good take on in general how South Africans see each other. Yes it's mostly race. We blame most of our short comings on one race or the other. A very crucial part of those short comings should be blamed on the corrupt gov and their failure to deliver the basic promises that they made when we voted for em. Instead of building schools, hospitals, varsities etc they loot n waste all the money on themselves. As a result,we as South Africans get confused, frustrated and start complaining tht there's not enough. So we turn on each other n blame it on race. The fact of the matter is we need to hold this gov accountable and make them deliver on their promises or get out. We need to unit not be divided. SA is big enough for us all... Not to mention very beautiful. No place like this on the planet. I luv this country.
I'm sure segregation and racism still exists. But I still think there's progress in that it's no longer part of the law. It's up to people to change the situation themselves now, not the government. People seem to be open to change there and it can happen. But no one's going to just give the underclass a handout. They have to work to advance themselves . .
The blame lies squarely on the short sighted ANC,. They have not grown anything of value and have failed even providing basic education. they have driven every parastatal into the ground. You can blame the past but keep hitting your head on the wall. The first thing people do when they make money is move to a better area. This aged badly.
I really love this documentary and I would much appreciate you put some subtitles in many speaches which would improve greatly it's reachability. Thanks 🙏and peace all over the World.
Apartheid spatial separation still acts as a huge barrier to socio-economic equality. Lack of public transport infrastructure means that integration has been slow in coming to Cape Town. The indigenous peoples of the Western Cape are the San, Khoi and the mixed race slaves and these groups have been largely marginalised in the race based politics of the new South Africa.
I am right wing. Right means 2 things. Left and right right. A right as in wrong and right. I have battled the boer for being wrong and now I am battling with the black people for being wrong. Two wrongs don't make it right. That's my thoughts for the day
It's good for young people to be talking and listening and thinking about racial issues. They are the people of the future and racial issues are important to debate - with a cool head. Personally I am amazed that the country has managed so well. Credit must go to Mandela for a peaceful transition. We have the example of Zimbabwe to see what could have happened. The future is never certain so people of South Africa need to find a stable future, rather than be concerned only with their own racial group.
“Its not fair because I was born out of apartheid”! Wow, and that’s the selfish perspective you get without a thought for those born in it and starting out miles down the rung. It’s not fair but what about several decades of instituationalised segration of generations and generations of 10’s of millions of people.
Feel your thoughts bro. People in privileged positions have an unrealistic proclivity towards thinking that impoverished people should simply work harder or "get over it" as it were. I loathe that line of thinking and wish it could be reversed just to witness how easily they would "get over it". It's a cop-out and a rather pathetic response as far as I'm concerned
Let the racists be racist it has its own wages that will yield challenges to force change.. I learnt to respect all people because we all benefit from each other and if you are wise you maximize on help from all directions with no cultural barriers..
I find your documentary a little skewed, although I completely get that it must have happened unintentionally... May I suggest you change your title to Racism in the Western Cape after Apartheid? The situation in Cape Town is completely different, as said by the woman at 6:00. I think unless you travelled to other South African urban areas you won't be able to do justice to the issue on video (even then, it's a complex issue that's very difficult to tackle on film). Well done on getting someone to argue about the youth of the new South Africa, the world needs to hear that. Also, the second half of your documentary seems to touch on wider issues than just racism, like the economic divide (eg. townships vs big cities that are direct neighbours) and the lack of educational opportunity, which is a socio-economic problem that is largely on the hands of the people that run this country. I think it's really important to try and move the discussion towards that rather than staying on Racism, which tends to just condone conflict instead of fostering progress. Thanks for your video =)
Lynn Erasmus Thanks Lynn. I can see where you're coming from. I wanted everyone to share their perspective about the country as a whole. It was not my intention to have it lean to one side over the other. Several people do touch on the fact that it's very different in Cape Town than it is in Johannesburg. I am doing a similar documentary this month when I'll be in England, so your advice is very helpful because I'll address that when asking questions. Thank you:)
brownbear900 We whites from South Africa were the only settlement of Europeans outside of Europe not to kill or hunt the indigenous population in the 1800's and the only settlement to hand the country back to the indigenous majority because we did not commit genocide against them and turn the majorities into manorities like Canada, USA, Austrailia, New Zealand etc. We did not hyave a dollar on each scalp brought back. We developed our tribes into the brightest and best GDP figures in Africa.We are less racist then many other cultures around the world....
Racism in one form or another exists all over the world and denying it is like an ostrich sticking its head in the sand. Step into a multi-cutural gathering and people naturally group together according to language, culture and/or religion. That happens everywhere and is natural....
Please go and look at my FB page...Phillippus Rudolph Smith and see my friends...Pakistanis, Nepalis, Bengalis, Fhillipinos, Saudis, and all shades of South Africans....I am not racist as I had a marriage across colour lines and fought for that right in the Houses of Parliment but to think we can ever eliminate racism or that any form of social engineering will work anywhere is disillusioned. One gets racists in all nations and tribes, groups and I do not condone it but I understand it having lived, visited and worked in 14 nations in Africa and the Middle East. Nationalism is a form of racism...Yes, we have to eliminate corruption as it is killing AFRICA and investment in AFRICA. Take care. May GOD be with you.
brownbear900 This does come quite late but I don't believe I was denying anything. I was making a critical analysis of the documentary, not voicing my opinion on the matter of Racism in South Africa. Thanks for categorising me based on my skin colour though, that was completely justified. Have a nice day.
It seems like everyone on both sides has some unjust and hold on to it. I would blame the older generation for subjecting their children, but at some point as a collective need to forgive each other, trust each other and move on to enriching all lives in South Africa.
Coming from Cape Town I can proudly tell you that CAPE TOWN is a progressive racism state with a clear racial segregation, institutional racism. Equality goes beyond diverse cultures, economically it is more than 80% white ones wealth, in joburg every is equal economically, financially and racially. The apartheid government that transformed to what now is DEMOCRATIC ALLIANCE is making sure that no one deserves to be on top of the food chain other than whites. Having political power means nothing if you have no control over the economy and the DA is making sure not to lose that power in cape Town. The ANC on the other hand sold out on it's people before 1994 so that they can stay in power for a long run. It has failed in the educational sector the only way blacks and coloured can get economic power. It's a win win game for Politicians and Whites and it's a losing battle for the majority that was and still is treated like a second class is South Africa.
South Africa's Economic Growth will start to falter in 2019 with the constitutional passing of the Land Reparations Without Compensation which is another word for Governmental Eminent Domain. With the present farmers on the land being kicked out by the native South African's the first economy to crash will be the agricultural sector. in 2020 with the emigration of 8.5 to 9% being threatened by genocide, the whole SA economy will begin a massive fall begining by at least a -10% drop and much worse from 2021 and beyond. This is due to the policies being set by the EFF and the ANC for this economic and political catastrophe. South Africa's destiny is to be a ramshackled mess for the next 1000 years onward from 2020.
I'm a mexican married to a coloured woman, that lady in the beginning of your interview says and I quote "mixed race people, maybe black and white or whatever" is a completely false statement, degrading their culture. I take offense to that. as she says, I say the same about her, that is subtle racism, most coloureds are khoisan descendants, I live in cape town.
I find the comments by the brunet girl at 4:40 inherently offensive . . . that "even then that's only when development came to South Africa", then being the time white settlers got here. Development could be anything really that benefits people. So who said black people were in anyway suffering without white people's development. The lack of consideration some people like her, put into their thought simply baffles me.
It's true tho. Yall never buily anything blacks didn't build ships and explore the world. Sorry truth hurt anc has destroyed south africa and I'm sure you can blame white people for that too. And there is successful black groups around the world. Virgin islands a thriving country that'd lead by black people while hati and south africa is trash holes
Right near the start of this video it turns into utter garbage spoken with great conviction by a young lady (at minute 1:06) who suggests without blinking an eyelid that "The true inhabitants (whatever "true" means) of this area are the Khoisan and Xhosa people". She is speaking total and utter drivel. When the Dutch landed at the Cape in 1652 the amaXhosa lived right at the southern border of what is now the KwaZulu-Natal province. There is a simple way to realise that. The key rivers that formed borders between white and black in the 1800s, the Kei and the Keiskamma ( both EAST of the Great Fish River border) had KHOISAN NAMES, not Xhosa names. What does that tell an intelligent human being? Perhaps this young lady can name me a river anywhere between Cape Town and Port Alfred that bears a Xhosa name. She cannot, OK? It took literally 50 years-- two generations-- for white and black to first meet each other overland in 1702. That happened around 600 miles east of the Cape... and I can provide the names of the people. It took until around 1780--one hundred and thirty years--for the first war between white and black, and it took place SIX HUNDRED miles east of Cape Town. So Bahador should go and edit this thing. When I hear stuff like that, I turn off the video, and so should any other person of intelligence who sees this video. No good can come of it.
Black South African's keep the myth that when the Dutch arrived it was populated with the ancestors of the current Africans. This is, as you point out untrue. The narrative is that the whites stole land from them. But they weren't there at the time. Their ancestors were north. The Africans that live in SA today migrated to SA in order to get jobs in the society that the European settlers created. However, present-day Africans claim that all white ownership of land is based upon theft, and the EFF wants all land taken from whites and redistributed to Africans. Even when repeatedly contradicted, black South Africans continue to latch onto this story. Black South Africans see all property as land, and do not recognize that the reason SA ever developed into what it became was that it was settled by Europeans. Similarly, Austalia would not have any tall buildings or roads today if it had not been settled by Australians. None of this is to endorse mistreatments of blacks, but both things can be true at the same time. The rather surprising thing is that even under apartheid, SA had a long term problem with illegal immigration from African countries north of SA. This means that Africans greatly preferred moving to a white/European based system as second class citizens then staying in their own African run countries. Within one or two generations, the African migrants changed the storyline to be that the whites had not allowed them into the country, but instead had stole their land where they had been for thousands of years.
Either way Africa is not their place. The didn’t come to Cape Town with the intention of living peaceful with the indigenous people of Africa, they came here to dominate and own land. They ended up coming to places where Khoisan and Xhosas stayed, and even so, they didn’t come with peace they were brutalising black indigenous people. So don’t speak kak here.
@@foreverziyanda As people who read here can now see for themselves, people start swearing in public when they cannot handle the truth. The ANC in South Africa has been trying for a long time to pretend that white people do not belong in South Africa. The previous president sang on stage about killing them. But here's the thing: South African President Cyril Ramaphosa's Venda people arrived on the South African side of the border with Zimbabwe at the same time as the Dutch settled at the Cape of Good Hope. Are you suggesting he does not belong? What about the Shangaan people who arrived only in the 1800s? Should they leave? As for "brutalising", do you even know what the Mfecane was and how Mzilikazi would heap branches on groups of women and children and set them alight? You need serious calibration. Try starting with your own history. And, try to be civil, though it is apparently very difficult for you.
This doc is amazing, getting to hear South Africans talk about the actual real life situations - at the beginning of society post-apartheid in the 90's and now in 2015. Your talk with the 3 people on the road and especially the talk with the blue shirt guy who has excelled in sports, was so wonderful to watch. Racism still exists, subtle or not. Keep up the good work!!!
Cape Town is one isolated area of South Africa. It is almost a country in itself. If you wanted to gain a true perspective on the current situation in South Africa you would need to return and interview people of all demographics from ALL the provinces in the country. My opinion, your documentary should be titled Racism in Cape Town after Apartheid. This is definately not a true representation of South Africa as a whole.
I love you guys and thank you for doing this video. Economic freedom we've got but the ANC after president Mbeki squandered our economy. Before Zupta if we can all recall the rand was R6 rand something to the dollar and even planning to find ways to stop the momentum of the rand. Our economy was growing rapidly (above 5%). Then came the Zuptas, we'll we all know how that unfolded. Before Ramaphosa was elected, some white famers were planning to give some of their land to the black communities and mentor them into being farmers, then came land expropriation without compensation (daylight robbery if you ask me), then our rand moved from R10 to above R15 against the dollar, white famers stopped whatever they were planning to do. Too many wrongs I can say, but I think every one who's not biased knows the truth. When Madiba was still the president, most white business man were giving him money to rebuild this country whenever he asked for. As a Black South African, I understand why some white people still hate blacks (mostly thanks to the ANC).
The CATALYST to #BlackGroupEconomics What I think poor South Africans need to do is come together and build an economic base, that has a legal structure with transparency and a financially sound foundation; to provide the capital that every black small business (new, old, start ups, etc.) could benefit from.. across South Africa. Everyone benefits; bar none! WE ARE DISRESPECTED because we don't practice #BlackGroupEconomics 1 million blacks pledging $1.25+ a week towards a BLACK Economic FUND to finance all black projects! $1.25 x 1,000,000 x 4 = 5,000,000+ Yes; start with one million black South Africans and perfect it then spread it. There should be multiple locations for members could select projects for immediate funding! This is what's going to CREATE JOBS FOR BLACK MEN & WOMEN! $1.25 is not a lot for anyone to contribute. Create cooperatives and stop depending on the Government for what you could do collectively for yourselves! South Africans need to form large co-ops and POOL their monies; that's the only way to solve their immediate issues. Do you know how many jobs, businesses, clinics, restaurants, farms, factories, etc. could be created with 5 MILLION DOLLARS+ a month? It's one thing for black folks to post positive images all day.. every day, but there's another thing when we don't take collective action to create and provide for our community. There's a strong force of habituation that locks us down in a cycle of monotony; which also prevents us from UNIFYING on the most critical issue! Many who claim to be conscious are not; they're still governed by the REPTILIAN BRAIN; which is seen in their behavior. Asians, Whites, etc. get together for a few drinks and before you know it, they've created a business from an idea that came up over their beers. Hopefully the right black folks would see our cry for economic unity and take action! Let's make this go VIRAL: #1MillionBlacksForEconomicEmpowerment.
im comin out of america.. excuse my ignorance.. what would be the direct difference between colored and black? they separate colored and black a few times in this vid.. does colored mean brown? like im latino,, am i colored in south africa?
funny inaccuracy at 1:18 - no bantu tribe, including the xhosa, reached cape town or even the western cape, before the europeans. the original inhabitants of south africa, if you feel they should have some kind of legal superiority afforded to them, were the khoi and the san. but I am not too sure what this would have to do with cooperating to build a successful future together.
THE BANTU EXPANSION The notion that Black people migrated from West Central Africa downwards to the South a 100 years after the Whites had settled in South African is utter nonsense and if you research it you will quickly discover that there is no archaeological evidence or any genetic evidence that has been conclusive enough to substantiate that such a mass migration ever took place but the validity of most studies and at best this White Theory is solely based on linguistics. The similarity in the languages is the only submitted argument, there's no DNA proof Mr "Williems" because just recently a Cultural DNA study was done and the Genetic study involving 220 participants representing 11 populations across southern Africa , revealed around 2.3 million DNA variants per individual, according to the journal Science this challenges the theory that modern humans came from just one place in Africa as well. So let's revisit the story of who the Khoisan are? THE KHOISAN were not a Southern African Tribe but they are descendants of Slaves who arrived with the Dutch East India Company and the term Khoisan was coined by Leonhard Schultze of Germany. (Please read: Oxford Research Encyclopedia - African History - Slavery at the Cape and Ethnology of Africa) I have copied an extract from the Oxford Book and it reads "Slaves were transported to the Cape from a wide range of areas in the Indian Ocean world, including South and Southeast Asia, Madagascar, and Mozambique. The majority were sold to settlers and worked as domestic servants in Cape Town or as laborers on the grain, wine, and pastoral farms of the Cape interior. Throughout the 18th century slaves outnumbered settlers. Although there were few major revolts, individual resistance was widespread and desertion common. Some runaways joined indigenous groups in the Cape interior, while others formed more isolated maroon communities." What happened to those maroon communities? They became what is now known as the KHOISAN and this name was established in 1905 Leonhard Schultze. So now let's focus on the man who gave them this name Leonhard Schultze, he was a Zoologist and Anthropologist. In his research he says that in Southern Africa he discovered two groups of people and they were the Hottentot and the Bushman which he later compounded into the group called KHOISAN and he says that the word Koi came from the Bushman when referring to the Hottentots. Okay, so where does the word Koi originate from then?. Koi or more specifically nishikigoi (錦鯉) is an informal group of the colored variants of the Cyprinus carpio. Several varieties are recognized by the Japanese. Koi varieties are distinguished by coloration, patterning, and scalation. Koi are Japanese fish! Remember earlier in the Oxford extract. It says that slaves who ran away joined indigenous groups in the Cape interior. We all know that when two different races mix, a multiracial child is born. Hottentots and Bushman (Maroon Communities) they were similar in terms of their built and features but varied in color, why? Bushman runaway slaves who fled into the Bush and did not want to join the indiginous groups (Marron Community) and then the Hottentots ARE THE GROUP OF SLAVES WHO JOINED THE INDIGENOUS TRIBES --- even the word Hottentot is a Dutch word from German hotteren-totteren ‘stutter’ (with reference to their language, in which clicking sounds are used). In Southern Africa we all know which groups of people use Clicking sounds. the NAMA are located in the North most parts of Southern Africa and even to this day can be found in Namibia ( also home of the HERERO people), Mozambique, Zimbambwe, South Africa (Most around the Kruger National park) and the NGUNI people( Xhosa's, Zulu, Ndebele, Tsonga, Sotho etc.) If you check the map the closes tribes to Cape Town has alwas been the XHOSA's and they have predominantly 5 clicking sounds where in the case of the Nama they have three clicking sounds. Okay let's focus on the Hottentots again. If it is true that Schultze took the word Koi-koi from the Bushmen who themselves used this term to refer to Hottentots (meaning that the Hottentots were indeed mixed race) then this proves without a measure of doubt that in fact they were descendants of those slaves who were Asian and lets not leave out the fact that Schultze himself was a Zoologist who had traveled the known world and he must have known about about the Japanese Fish called the Koi which is distinguishable by it's coloration. Either way Khoisan is of foreign origin. Schultze named them Koi-koi --- due to their multiracial features and please I know some of you try to say that Khoisan are the NAMA people. They are not Khoisan and this is most evident in their language. Which brings me to my final point. Khoisan people use Afrikaans and the development of the Afrikaans language can also be attributed to slavery. Slaves came from many different places and spoke different languages but the NAMA like their close relatives the NGUNI and HERERO use Clicking sounds when they speak...Click Click Click. Remember what studies say about THE BANTU EXPANSION most of the studies use similarity in our languages to prove we are from North African and if you search you will find that all the African groups in the Southern Territories use Clicks, all of them except but one and that is the Khoisan, they mostly use Afrikaans. A language influenced greatly by non-African languages. So how can they be the original people? I Xhosa and my name is Cumani and Mr Williams says he is my great grand father and yet his surname is European, a name of a slave master and that's a fact. White people are trying to write us out of our history... research about Willie Lynch and then google South African Shacks...see who pops up! Another thing guys. We know that in South Africa we have an existing Ethnic group of Colored People. I am not in any sharp or form saying that they are Khoisan. I was informed by my Colored colleague that they are two separate groups as well. I just pointed out that the Khoisan are also mixed race and I acknowledge them as South Africans like I acknowledge White South Africans as well but I just wanted to set the record straight. NGUNI people are not children of the Khoisan! Wee need to respect each others identities if we aim to succeed as a Multicultural society!!!
South Africa just like the U.S.of America will not find a quick answer to their indigenous people's or the ex slave problem. You can't fix 400 years of colonization slavery murder and c racism. in 20 years. maybe not in 100 years if your not very serious about repairing that problem. The entire population of whites and those of color all have to be re educated. So many Africans were denied an equal opportunity at education housing health etc. Of course if whites have had the best education that money could buy, how can a African compete. Affirmative action alone is not going to solve the problem. People have to love each other enough to come together and deal with what 400 years of abuse has done to everyone
deepthang It’s funny but no one talks about when white where slaves for 1200 years. It’s was not just the white People that had black slaves . So talk about that too.
0:42 It is not easy to achieve economic freedom. It means self-sufficiency. A lot of developed countries are not economically free, especially the small countries without a lot of resources.
Ok, a factual documentary, which is trying to make people sharing their opinions like a friends discussion around a table/in a bar. People share their observations about their neighborhood like you and me if someone ask your opinion in the street . So, I think it is an interesting documentary. Julien
Why wasn't their nice streets and decent council homes built for the majority in southafrica ? We're are the decent respectable council homes ,decent street designs ? Your all hypocrites People are living with the consequences of the complete lack of resources over a hundreds of years address that crime, address them facts
economic transformation isn't jus gonna happen by signing documents and dressing nicely ,,,driving nice cars and speaking English like you've lived in England ..... racial integration in many spheres of our society ....social cohesion , and will from our young people to change the platforms that we only paved for a select few is what we need ... a real BEE diversified nation can only happen when we don look at the color of each other's skins but by educating ourselves about our environment and backgrounds .... i'm happy to work with people who don't see me as being a black man among st them but a colleague that is there becoz i deserve to be there and my contribution to the company isn't measured by my inclusion as a black person but my hard work ...... it also motivates me to know there's more white people willing to come visit me in my township and experience what my social ills than someone who constantly views black communities as slums and impoverished places where only crime and rape is the order of the day..... living in Soweto i happen to see and meet a lot of foreign nationals visiting the museums and tour our neighborhood jus to see how we live ....as i wou'd if i was a tourist in their country ..... the sad thing is to see how few white South Africans make the same effort ..
+Poop Snake ....Tell that Indian you should be obvious partners, in bringing back the English to India. That would be much easier and more fun, wouldn't it?
Economic and entrepreneurial activity is significantly more important than integration. The latter can either be a socially engineered action or left to organic processes. A socially engineered solution would be resisted as it should be.
At the end of the day it is all up to the people to improve themselves. You can't sit around waiting for handouts from the government. You can't just move into a posh neighbourhood if you can't afford it.And as for the White people, you are not alone, in many Southeast Asian countries you need to work much harder if you are considered a non-native, so don't pin your hopes on government jobs and government universities. There is so much we can learn from the Chinese and Indians who migrated to various places in the world, they arrived with nothing, now many of them are thriving.
The ANC is failing the black people regarding education and jobs,There are less jobs for poor black people now than in the Apartheid era which is actually shameful
+Black Pride Get into the modern age
+Black Pride You are soon full of "pride" that you have become a person who cannot make sane decisions or judgements. The world and world view has changed so move ahead or stay in the stone age.
+Ethiopian Rainbow you have no chance because you are unable to see beyond the immediate - whites built South Africa out of nothing, mostly empty land - Africa would still be in the stone age without the whites and you would be sitting round the cooking pot outside your mud hut, probably with your views the best place to be
+RIchard Munday Corruption.... etc...
+RIchard Munday Whites of SA got off very easy if you ask mr.
It really comes down to wealth. Would you disrespect a wealthy, educated, and powerful black person? Probably not.
ARVIN this is exactly what I think about racism.
I would if I was a communist like the murdering a.n.c are!
ARVIN Well said, I actually have a channel where I talk alot about racism in SA you should check it out
+ARVIN That's what I was thinking. Even a guy in the video said it. It comes down to the haves and have nots.
Correct! Great analysis! When there will a greater or larger African middle-class, there will also be more respect. What's needed, is more educated and economically independent African people in South Africa, there will come more respect. The lack of respect is also due to the economical and educational gaps between groups.
Thank you so much for taking the time to do this
the black guy in the blue t-shirt spoke the truth.
sifiso lincoln Mazibuko What truth?, I just heard a black person harping about being an outcast at school.
Black Partikel he spoke the truth about the racism moving from colour to the "haves" and "have not's" & a lot of other things as well.
Govt should stop stealing the money meant for the citizens
As a Cape Townian I myself also am aware of racism, but I do experience this from other cultures as well. As been mentioned because of the diversity of cultures in this country alot of the people struggle to embrace one another. The behavior vissible is that every culture has their own ethichs and that is set as the norm for each group's ideology. Compromising with a different culture is unacceptable. But there are people that do respect others, but they are in the minority.
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Very Interesting...
As a expat South African it hurts me that after all this time, citizens of SA.still think of themselves as a so-called black, white, coloured.Why not US or WE. We need to change our ways of looking at ourselves and be one regardless of whatever. Change mean change not reversal.
The majority of the citizens have moved on. Sadly many still teach their children the old ways. Both black and white. The one gentlemen mentioned the they were 6 people living in a little shack. They have been like that for 16 years.....indicating that the 21years of the new government has provided them with nothing. In any community you will have people focussed on the bad and who are stuck in the past. Let them be and let them dig their own graves. Those of us who choose to live better lives and live in harmony with others, we are the ones who are truly free. We need to stand together and show South Africa and the world that there is more good than bad in our country.
Regardless of what people's view might be, I will commend you for your effort. Well done and keep it up.
Good documentary, just as a side note, dont interview people in bars or pubs where the surrounding noise interferes with the person interviewed.
I guess I'm kinda randomly asking but does anyone know a good site to watch newly released tv shows online ?
1:42 "the luxurious places in Cape Town are all Jewish owned"
Pure coincidence
@Harry Williams because they're disciplined. Study and are hard workers.
@@AreYouKenneth lmao yeah sure
@@AreYouKenneth they done a documentary where Jewish communities were bring forced to go into work. Being told top jobs are waiting for them, just do some studies and its gauranteed.
Nobody else in the world has a luxury of being forced to work, THEY NEED TO WORK TO SURVIVE.
@@fivegoalseason where can I see that documentary?
@@AreYouKenneth u can dig it up ur self.
but they targeted the ultra orthodox jews, as originally they were not a community that worked, but one who more was into religion.
now the government have so many well paid jobs they cant just give to anybody, so now they are forcing the orthodox jewsish community to put down the bible and work
baring in mind how seriously jews take the lie thay they are the chosen people. and how serious they take the tasks assigned by god himself. but because they so greedy they are exposing themselves
loads of content mate
I`ve never been to South Africa, but what i can see from this video is that racism is still a very touchy subject over there. Awesome video, it`s nice to have this as a discussion group. I just cannot understand why it is so hard for some people to have, at least, respect for each other.
Up here in Canada, it is exactly what you mentioned in the video. Today people live more in harmony, but there is still a need to preserve First Nation territories and their traditional knowledge properly.
Thank you for that. I very much agree with you regarding Canada. I absolutely love this country, I do believe we have a lot to be proud of and there are certain Canadian values that really unite us, which in my opinion people who come here should be open to. At the same time, with regards to our First Nations communities, we need to acknowledge what happened in the past and I also believe the culture of the First Nations and their history needs to receive more attention.
Bahador Alast That`s true and twenty years is really a very short time to expect a deep change in people`s mind, mainly from those who lived during apartheid. On the other hand, you guys should be really proud of the live you have today. Of course, we always have internal problems and so on, but hope time will guide you to a more comprehensive and respectful environment.
Bahador Alast I wonder if you knew that South African Apartheid was based on the apartheid in Canada? Today Canada is a modern Apartheid so Native Americans aren't forced to live in the reserves but, the many do.
interesting read
www.tgmag.ca/magic/mt3.html
are there blacks in Canada?
teirra Butler of course!
Cape Town is not representative of S.A.
If you are not married i would like to marry with you bcz here in india if you are native English speaker you got a lot of jobs in bigg ammount
@ that's funny...lol
@@vikramsingh-yr2wl shut the fuck up stop embarrassing us on internet
3:41 seconds is how far i got..... I used to be proud that people called me a hippie and that i had such an open world view. Now many years later i came to realize that the 60-70's was the time we were attacked and our realistic view of everything/our humanity got destroyed. Touchy feely men/boys and butch women/girls...all trying to figure out who they are when ..well they are human beings. We are white or pink. We are western civilisation. Other races come here because of the amazing things we have created. And we have lost our sight to see how special we are.
Apartheid has earlier roots than when the 'Dutch Afrikaner minority' came to power by popular vote via the National Party. In fact early origins can be traced back as far as 1776 when the British implemented the first race-based land act in the British Cape Colony. Notably the British arch imperialist Cecil John Rhodes was a super racist and dreamed of a United South Africa in which the white man would rule supreme, exactly what he got after defeating the sovereign, independent, anti-colonial Boer Republics by means of methods of barbarism. The newly established British Union of South Africa implemented a plethora of race-based laws, including a 'morality' type act. It was from these prior principles that Apartheid rose and hence Apartheid can not be associated with 'white Dutch Afrikaner minority' alone. Interesting that the media of the time only aligned themselves with the blacks' cause AFTER the N.P. came to power. Also, the pass laws was introduced by the British, so was the practice of ringing bells after sunset to chase all non-whites out of town. Furthermore there were plenty of English speaking South Africans who also supported Apartheid.
THE BANTU EXPANSION
The notion that Black people migrated from West Central Africa downwards to the South a 100 years after the Whites had settled in South African is utter nonsense and if you research it you will quickly discover that there is no archaeological evidence or any genetic evidence that has been conclusive enough to substantiate that such a mass migration ever took place but the validity of most studies and at best this White Theory is solely based on linguistics. The similarity in the languages is the only submitted argument, there's no DNA proof Mr "Williems" because just recently a Cultural DNA study was done and the Genetic study involving 220 participants representing 11 populations across southern Africa , revealed around 2.3 million DNA variants per individual, according to the journal Science this challenges the theory that modern humans came from just one place in Africa as well.
So let's revisit the story of who the Khoisan are?
THE KHOISAN were not a Southern African Tribe but they are descendants of Slaves who arrived with the Dutch East India Company and the term Khoisan was coined by Leonhard Schultze of Germany. (Please read: Oxford Research Encyclopedia - African History - Slavery at the Cape and Ethnology of Africa) I have copied an extract from the Oxford Book and it reads "Slaves were transported to the Cape from a wide range of areas in the Indian Ocean world, including South and Southeast Asia, Madagascar, and Mozambique. The majority were sold to settlers and worked as domestic servants in Cape Town or as laborers on the grain, wine, and pastoral farms of the Cape interior. Throughout the 18th century slaves outnumbered settlers. Although there were few major revolts, individual resistance was widespread and desertion common. Some runaways joined indigenous groups in the Cape interior, while others formed more isolated maroon communities."
What happened to those maroon communities? They became what is now known as the KHOISAN and this name was established in 1905 Leonhard Schultze.
So now let's focus on the man who gave them this name Leonhard Schultze, he was a Zoologist and Anthropologist. In his research he says that in Southern Africa he discovered two groups of people and they were the Hottentot and the Bushman which he later compounded into the group called KHOISAN and he says that the word Koi came from the Bushman when referring to the Hottentots. Okay, so where does the word Koi originate from then?.
Koi or more specifically nishikigoi (錦鯉) is an informal group of the colored variants of the Cyprinus carpio. Several varieties are recognized by the Japanese. Koi varieties are distinguished by coloration, patterning, and scalation. Koi are Japanese fish!
Remember earlier in the Oxford extract. It says that slaves who ran away joined indigenous groups in the Cape interior. We all know that when two different races mix, a multiracial child is born. Hottentots and Bushman (Maroon Communities) they were similar in terms of their built and features but varied in color, why?
Bushman runaway slaves who fled into the Bush and did not want to join the indiginous groups (Marron Community) and then the Hottentots ARE THE GROUP OF SLAVES WHO JOINED THE INDIGENOUS TRIBES --- even the word Hottentot is a Dutch word from German hotteren-totteren ‘stutter’ (with reference to their language, in which clicking sounds are used). In Southern Africa we all know which groups of people use Clicking sounds. the NAMA are located in the North most parts of Southern Africa and even to this day can be found in Namibia ( also home of the HERERO people), Mozambique, Zimbambwe, South Africa (Most around the Kruger National park) and the NGUNI people( Xhosa's, Zulu, Ndebele, Tsonga, Sotho etc.) If you check the map the closes tribes to Cape Town has alwas been the XHOSA's and they have predominantly 5 clicking sounds where in the case of the Nama they have three clicking sounds. Okay let's focus on the Hottentots again.
If it is true that Schultze took the word Koi-koi from the Bushmen who themselves used this term to refer to Hottentots (meaning that the Hottentots were indeed mixed race) then this proves without a measure of doubt that in fact they were descendants of those slaves who were Asian and lets not leave out the fact that Schultze himself was a Zoologist who had traveled the known world and he must have known about about the Japanese Fish called the Koi which is distinguishable by it's coloration. Either way Khoisan is of foreign origin.
Schultze named them Koi-koi --- due to their multiracial features and please I know some of you try to say that Khoisan are the NAMA people. They are not Khoisan and this is most evident in their language. Which brings me to my final point.
Khoisan people use Afrikaans and the development of the Afrikaans language can also be attributed to slavery. Slaves came from many different places and spoke different languages but the NAMA like their close relatives the NGUNI and HERERO use Clicking sounds when they speak...Click Click Click.
Remember what studies say about THE BANTU EXPANSION most of the studies use similarity in our languages to prove we are from North African and if you search you will find that all the African groups in the Southern Territories use Clicks, all of them except but one and that is the Khoisan, they mostly use Afrikaans. A language influenced greatly by non-African languages. So how can they be the original people? I Xhosa and my name is Cumani and Mr Williams says he is my great grand father and yet his surname is European, a name of a slave master and that's a fact.
White people are trying to write us out of our history... research about Willie Lynch and then google South African Shacks...see who pops up!
Another thing guys. We know that in South Africa we have an existing Ethnic group of Colored People. I am not in any sharp or form saying that they are Khoisan. I was informed by my Colored colleague that they are two separate groups as well. I just pointed out that the Khoisan are also mixed race and I acknowledge them as South Africans like I acknowledge White South Africans as well but I just wanted to set the record straight. NGUNI people are not children of the Khoisan! Wee need to respect each others identities if we aim to succeed as a Multicultural society!!!
Interestingly enough the first goverment in South Africa to build schools and universities for blacks was the Apartheid goverment. Before that, all British colonies relied on mission schools.
You can tell the difference between educated and uneducated by language all over the world . Speaking well is really important.
That’s true...
Germany, USA, Australia, all the same. What’s sad is when a person doesn’t learn their mother-tongue well
You can't be sure. A lot of people speak broken versions of languages. It doesn't mean they are not educated. They could be good at other subjects.
@@thessianheart9816it means they’re uneducated
my sister went to south africa she is east indian she said black people there are very racist
wouldn't be surprised after what they went through.
what do you expect from people who have been stoled from their lands. muslim here by the eay
+Rowan Quatre did you just say powerless, all western countries are backing white people. And by the way white people own 50% of the land even though they are 10% of population.
+Rowan Quatre there is wanting wrong about your opinion, you are saying that black people can't do anything and if white give back the lands than people wil die starvation. To be honest that's white supermacy. And that's what white people used to think before apertaid and after
+Rowan Quatre yes i have heard about it. And you are right about educating black people. I don't want south Africa to be another Zimbabwe but if majority of people get oppressed and feel discriminated in their own country it does anything except violence, so there must me solution fast.
The neighborhood segregation has nothing to do with racism. It has to do with the way humans are wired, in that they feel more comfortable with their own kind. That's why Polish have their neighborhodos in Chicago. Chinese have Chinatown in San Francisco. It has always been like this historically, that people of the same background settled togethor, because they feel more comfortable with their own kind.
But I DO agree with that guy's comment on the ANC. It's the same in America. Black people still blame slavery for Black opression in America. And what kind of Democracy is it, if one party has been ruling over 20 years? That's no different than Communism.
I actually agree with you. As long as they're not murdering innocent people it's perfectly reasonable to treat others the way you yourself have been treated. I personally wish everyone could just forget the past and live in harmony together, but that's not how the world works.
briantravelman so clearly you dnt see what ANC has already done ? first you must put your brain back to your head sir & think straight . south africa was made fo 8% population e.g power stations were for white ,hospitals, university, economicaly ,etc .now you expect the ANC in 20 years to uplift 80% of south africa & expand every thing in same time while you know tht our gorvment dipends on tax .you must tell me how long it takes apartheid gorvment to build white south africa ??? am sure it was more than half century
briantravelman Ya But whites where slaves too for 1200 years but you will never hear a black talk about that right. They just won’t to still the white men history it’s said. Get your own. Let us tell are history and you tell your. There is slaves on both sides.
briantravelman, that is why we have different continents.
Interesting! It seems like you really got a pretty good perspective of the situation there. Great idea to integrated a variety of footage to make the video interesting.
Always enjoy your videos. Keep up the good work and don't let the negative comments discourage you. You're doing great!! Good stuff! XO
Melissa Manson In some countries, extra marks are given to women in order to encourage them to go to University. This is because girls do more work in the home in comparison to boys. This gives the boys an unfair advantage. When the same ideology is practiced with different colors, suddenly quarrels and complaints. It is true that most businesses in South Africa are Afrikaans owned. In order for black folk to be seen, they have to push. Since they can do nothing about the business ownership situation besides opening shop, they will make good use of the employment one. Its all politics.
I think there is nothing more enjoyable than spending time with people of different races and nationalities. We have so much to learn from the others,if we could just stop being so arrogant, the world would be a better place.
Florina Amr
Exactly
That's true. Knowing History is important but it shouldnt be imposed on young generation to plant hate\bitterness in their hearts.
We honestly need to move forward from other things
Whenever that guy with the sunglasses and blue shirt spoke I listened because it was a pleasure listening to a non-racist, intelligent person stating that it wasn't a race problem, but more a poverty problem, we have to fix things.
I got half way through this before realising who made it! Have you done a video comparing Afrikaans to Dutch? I was in Rome 12 years ago and I got a Dutch guy and an Afrikaaner together for a conversation to see if they can communicate and it worked. I was so pleased 😄
I was planning on it once but all 3 of us agreed that they're too close. They (the Dutch and Afrikaans speakers) said it would be too simple and they'd easily understand each other haha
Don't know how I ended up here but i am glad I live in Canada o.0 ....
Yeah thank god your there.. The weak can't survive in this country
They're stuck!
@@emiliodeolim-thefisherman9957 😂😂😂😭
@@emiliodeolim-thefisherman9957 xDDDD
Yeah. And you should be glad you are not an indigenous person in Canada.
Not really a doco more like the musings of some cape town hipsters.
Great doc Bahador! well done
I'm sorry; I must be looking at this entirely differently. Would someone please tell me how the "whites" are racists when the ANC regime has around a 100 - possibly more - pieces of legislation based on race. I even recall seeing a job ad some months back where it actually listed races from black and ending with white. That people - yes the ANC and their like minded ilk - still blame apartheid and whites for something that happened 20 plus years ago astounds me. What about the racism in sports like cricket and rugby. I look forward to the day South Africa faces sporting isolation because of the racist policies implemented by the ANC.
There are a few realities that need facing up to here. The ANC are fascist, racist bigots - if racism was wrong under the National Party then it is also wrong now - the ANC cannot have it both ways. All those people that are trying to appease the ANC need to wake up. The ANC has done tremendous harm to South Africa and it is about time they were also consigned to history. It is also time that when the ANC and their followers start throwing up the race card then they should look in the mirror in order for them to see what a modern day racist is. I will not hold my breath though.
sir your response is so ignorant please go and educate yourself on why white people are racist. Look at your post it's clearly racist, you're the problem.
I believe you have "forest for the trees" syndrome. Please consult a physician.
@@antdell8730 I am struggling to understand what you are saying?
@@POTATO44WW I am so ignorant? Is that because I do not swallow the warped narrative coming out of the mouths of the ANC regime?
@@moses5159 I am certain that you struggle at a lot things.
I experience racism on a daily basis for the last 21 years.....I am pushed aside because I am white....I put up wit BEE, AFIRMATIVE ACTION and Race Quotas daily I don't have a say ....That is Racism no mater how you look at it..... You hear all about correcting the wrongs of the past ....well those racist policies are just driving a wedge between the races ....
Welcome to our reality !!
umfums Oh, that's nothing. My mother just showed me a video in which white South Africans are beating black children during apartheid. Poor children! Being beaten, killed, mutilated and massacred just for their color in their own continent. That's sad. And you're here whining! Amazing!
Mirquella Santos What makes me sad is how gullible you are. You think that's bad, i'm a white female born in 1993, i never asked to be born to this country but i was and I am a south african even though the public say i am not, My cousin was 11 years old when a black man kidnapped her, raped and sodomized her and then killed her, i wasn't apart of the apartheid but i am being punished for it just like many other whites born in the 1990s, you don't come from this country so you wouldn't know.
Jessie Bern so basically every ones getting screwed over in south africa blacks and whites okay
German Girl blacks are the majority , they get everything .coloureds, Indians and whites are the minority,we get fucked around
I'm from Cape Town and there's no denying it's the most "racist city" in South Africa and one of the most racist precincts in the Western Cape.
i am from Nigeria and i think the big lesson of the day is that ;you cant always have a sense of entitlement on a structure that your people didn't build .the European settlers built south Africa and have a subconscious sense of ownership of the place .in Nigeria the blacks built Nigeria, whether its substandard or not is a discussion for another day .Nigerians are not familiar with racism in africa because the have always felt a sense of freedom and ownership on the continent .Black south Africans could learn from us
Trevor Uzomah Nigeria is a shithole on top of a shithole, you see how stupid as a suffering Black you sound speaking on other suffering Blacks. Nigeria ain't shit to be proud an absolute toilet bowl that place is. All of us have work to do, one section of blacks should not speak down on another group when as a collective suffering the effects of white supremacy and Islam. Keep your mouth shut next time bootlick.
@@JimmyCrackCorn_ thnk y
Looool i see where u at , so u jealous that South Africa is better than Nigeria ..well in case u didn’t know black peoples where there during construction actually they were the ones doing most work and paid less just like USA
Black ppl built south africa slima ndini, we dont care about your country. Our great grandparents built this damn country nxa
Thank you for this video.
The guy at 18.56 went to a priviledged private school you can hear that by his accent. People in South Africa call them oreos. black on the outside but white on the inside. The girl at 19.00 also went to a good school. Race has nothing to do with it. socio ecomonics. A black person in America will speak in Eubonics unless his parents choose to send him to a school where he learns to speak english
Ur an idiot
shut up stupid
the last part is actually wrong. what you are referring is not a language related to Africa or the Caribbean (in other words eubonics) it is american. actually while are at the only ones actually speak English are the english everything else is creole
donna jackson don't be an idiot, in SA we have this huge difference in socioeconomic status simply because of what white government did to black communities.. so yes it is all about race
Great video, with interesting topic, first video of yours I've seen I love documentary/interview style videos
This shows so much, the same experiences around the world, as every country deals with the "operational" realities that are the common aftermath of institutionalized segregation. It is impossible to legislate people's attitudes which will only change through universal growth as expanded understanding and learning. We can each contribute to helping create fairer, more just societies; certainly this is not simplistically political change, it is a change in how each of us helps each other to expand holistic learning about universal human values. Thanks for giving us a "realistic" view of the current situation for the people who are experiencing these conditions and changes first hand. So often, what we think is going on, is not what the operational truths of others, are.
Thank you Ruth :)
Ruth, you clearly have no idea what you are talking about, and this video is so far from the real truth it is actually a joke!
www.thetruthaboutsouthafrica.org/
Do yourself a favor and get educated.....
brownbear900 It just shows what an ignorant idiot you are!
It is a website for ALL South Africans, black and white and about the TRUTH in South Africa. It has nothing to do with racism. If you really took the time and read what it is about, you would realize that... And, It has many black followers... oh sorry, maybe your intellect is below average and you cannot read or understand the concept.... Crawl back into the shithole you came from...
the European colonists destroyed the world
Great documentary Bahador... Maybe you should come to Brazil and do a similar one. Still a lot of hidden racism here, no matter what people say.
A friend of mine was born on a white farm in Johannesburg. His entire family lived on that farm as live-in farm workers. The farm was their whole world because during Apartheid that's how they ate. But the owner of the farm did with then whatever he pleased. He raped mother, uncle and child (boy). He was there until the late 1990s. But after the end of Apartheid, his family slowly could move unto other job opportunities. Up until now, my friend never went to school. His childhood was spent farming sometimes with his bare hands, eating scraps of food and being raped by an old white man.
So when people say Apartheid was better for everyone, my whole body convulses.
those who say Apartheid was better are ignorant racists. Don't be surprised though because even in America you have Black and White people who say things were better during slavery
The problem in South Africa is, when Nelson Mandela was elected President in South Africa, he never brokered a deal , with the Apartheid government for Economic Stimulus plan for Black South Africans and there should have been a Reparations Bill for the black South Africans. Black people in South Africa must demand Economic integration.
Easiest place to escape is across the Atlantic: Arg, Uru, Bras, Chil. Europeans will have to move there too, as Europe is being taken over
Now the ANC government has had more than two decades and still unemployment climbs, the squalor increases, regime corruption is doing its best to best continental standards, institutionalized racism blossoms on the law-books... These are simple facts that prove only one thing: things are not as simplistic as Marxist rhetoric wants us to believe. I read that even my old alma mater (one of the two at least, namely Fort Hare University), confirms their disgruntlement with this regime, and have rejected the ANC at the SRC polling stations in favour of the DA. The hackneyed view of white oppression and black suppression doesn't tally any longer, as it doesn't improve anything for those who truly suffer. Do yourself a favour and ask WHO the "whites" are that have pillaged the actual gold reserves of the SA Reserve Bank, and who else profited.
Where ever the white man has gone, racism has followed. it is odd how you come up with these policies on everyone else's land when you are the indigenous man of NO land but Europe.
Since the end of apartheid in 1994 the average lifespan of black south Africans has declined 9 years.
Ari Riyadh and that is fake news
Very good! I've never seen a doc about racism in South Africa and have been wondering for a while how life in post-apartheid South Africa is.
Sarah Goolsby Thank you.
Reconciliation is the way to go. Let's rise above superficial things such as skin color, "race"(social construct), ethnic origin to help each other to make the world a better place!
1:20 Wrong. Historically the true inhabitants of the Cape were only the Khoi San. Settlers came after that. The settlers then encountered the first Xhosas at the Fish River (Eastern Cape). Xhosas only came to what is today known as the Cape because of economic activities and opportunities there (whether it was forced or voluntary migration).
If i can find empty land as black in Europe and its mine what do u think is gonna happen can white alow thst?
Khoi Sans are black people. What are you talking about?
History tells me that the real Khoi and San people ( not fake khoisan people who speak alian language as their home language like Afrikaans) are the part of Xhosa.
The Minority in South Africa is getting rich off the Majority of Black South Africans People.
Of all the countries I have been to, visited, lived in, I am sorry to say that South Africa was by far the most racist. The segregation levels between races is so highly visible, this also affects social and educational levels in society there. It has by far a much more racist system than the Deep South ( US). Whites are by far the wealthiest and most educated group, while Blacks are by far the poorest, most unemployed and least educated. A perfect example, most maid or domestic worker are Black in over 90% of the cases are Black and most bosses in 80% are Whites. There are still places to this day in that African country that who would not even serve Africans ( Black) or at least discourage it, despite the fact that most workers would be Black. To my surprise, many South Africans regardless of the color aren't even aware of how powerfully racism entrenched in their own society at all levels. Now the strong inequalities between groups or "racial" groups are main cause of great frictions. Both Blacks and Whites are however victims of the most racialist colonialist system in Africa brought by the British and the evil Apartheid regime brought by Boer/ "Afrikaner" nationalists. Any intelligent person knows that there was already a subtle segregationist system before Apartheid in South Africa. Superiority and inferiority complexes are therefore inevitable, this means superiority complexes shown by White South Africans, especially among the Boers more so than with other Whites and inferiority complexes shown by Black South Africans is universal regardless of tribe or ethnic affiliation and is part of their daily lives, though they are mostly unconscious of that. Although, I can attest that great progress has been made ever since 1994, the road to justice is still long. With a high scale of available education and a narrowing of the gaps between the very wealthy and the very poor will help a lot to heal the racial wounds. The excessively high crime rate is directly linked to the great educational and social gaps, no rocket science is needed to understand that. Even Whites need to be fully re-educated on their perception of their Black countrymen, changing from their excessively racialist or racist arrogance to a more analytic understanding of the impact of the damage made by colonialism and Apartheid on the vast majority of the South Africans not just socially but also psychologically! This was made in order to protect their minority right for so long. Black South Africans have to aspire to the great task of social improvement of their own society or societies and not always count on Whites for that ( healing comes from within). The "counting" on Whites is a sign of inferiority complex. Proper education and reconciliation not bias ones is the ultimate key to solve South Africa's racial problem!
Τhe white couple in the bar must be some kind of recruiters for some skinhead organisation.
This is probably the most accurate documentary about modern South Africa (I only know the western cape well enough) I have seen in a while...
This was a very interesting doc. N a good take on in general how South Africans see each other. Yes it's mostly race. We blame most of our short comings on one race or the other. A very crucial part of those short comings should be blamed on the corrupt gov and their failure to deliver the basic promises that they made when we voted for em. Instead of building schools, hospitals, varsities etc they loot n waste all the money on themselves. As a result,we as South Africans get confused, frustrated and start complaining tht there's not enough. So we turn on each other n blame it on race. The fact of the matter is we need to hold this gov accountable and make them deliver on their promises or get out. We need to unit not be divided. SA is big enough for us all... Not to mention very beautiful. No place like this on the planet. I luv this country.
this was great thanks!!
Thank you
South Africa is a wonderful Country, but racists should leave this Country.
What a brilliant and interesting discussion. People make more similar types of documentaries.
I'm sure segregation and racism still exists. But I still think there's progress in that it's no longer part of the law. It's up to people to change the situation themselves now, not the government. People seem to be open to change there and it can happen. But no one's going to just give the underclass a handout. They have to work to advance themselves . .
The blame lies squarely on the short sighted ANC,. They have not grown anything of value and have failed even providing basic education. they have driven every parastatal into the ground. You can blame the past but keep hitting your head on the wall. The first thing people do when they make money is move to a better area. This aged badly.
The number of adverts on this clip is frustrating....
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Stacy Abrams is crazy if she thinks that L'm giving the Democrats any money.
I really love this documentary and I would much appreciate you put some subtitles in many speaches which would improve greatly it's reachability. Thanks 🙏and peace all over the World.
She's living in a very beautiful place.Capetown is the place.
Apartheid spatial separation still acts as a huge barrier to socio-economic equality. Lack of public transport infrastructure means that integration has been slow in coming to Cape Town. The indigenous peoples of the Western Cape are the San, Khoi and the mixed race slaves and these groups have been largely marginalised in the race based politics of the new South Africa.
Real San peolpe and Khoi-khoi people ( not fake khoisan speak alian langauge, Afrikaans ) apart of Xhosa people.
I am right wing. Right means 2 things. Left and right right. A right as in wrong and right. I have battled the boer for being wrong and now I am battling with the black people for being wrong. Two wrongs don't make it right. That's my thoughts for the day
It's good for young people to be talking and listening and thinking about racial issues. They are the people of the future and racial issues are important to debate - with a cool head. Personally I am amazed that the country has managed so well. Credit must go to Mandela for a peaceful transition. We have the example of Zimbabwe to see what could have happened. The future is never certain so people of South Africa need to find a stable future, rather than be concerned only with their own racial group.
The first woman you interview really explain things in an easy to understand way; how did you two meet?
“Its not fair because I was born out of apartheid”! Wow, and that’s the selfish perspective you get without a thought for those born in it and starting out miles down the rung. It’s not fair but what about several decades of instituationalised segration of generations and generations of 10’s of millions of people.
Feel your thoughts bro. People in privileged positions have an unrealistic proclivity towards thinking that impoverished people should simply work harder or "get over it" as it were. I loathe that line of thinking and wish it could be reversed just to witness how easily they would "get over it". It's a cop-out and a rather pathetic response as far as I'm concerned
Let the racists be racist it has its own wages that will yield challenges to force change.. I learnt to respect all people because we all benefit from each other and if you are wise you maximize on help from all directions with no cultural barriers..
Awesome answer.
Great documentary.
Great video, lots of good perspectives on an important issue that affects everyone.
I find your documentary a little skewed, although I completely get that it must have happened unintentionally... May I suggest you change your title to Racism in the Western Cape after Apartheid? The situation in Cape Town is completely different, as said by the woman at 6:00. I think unless you travelled to other South African urban areas you won't be able to do justice to the issue on video (even then, it's a complex issue that's very difficult to tackle on film).
Well done on getting someone to argue about the youth of the new South Africa, the world needs to hear that.
Also, the second half of your documentary seems to touch on wider issues than just racism, like the economic divide (eg. townships vs big cities that are direct neighbours) and the lack of educational opportunity, which is a socio-economic problem that is largely on the hands of the people that run this country. I think it's really important to try and move the discussion towards that rather than staying on Racism, which tends to just condone conflict instead of fostering progress.
Thanks for your video =)
Lynn Erasmus Thanks Lynn. I can see where you're coming from. I wanted everyone to share their perspective about the country as a whole. It was not my intention to have it lean to one side over the other. Several people do touch on the fact that it's very different in Cape Town than it is in Johannesburg. I am doing a similar documentary this month when I'll be in England, so your advice is very helpful because I'll address that when asking questions. Thank you:)
brownbear900 We whites from South Africa were the only settlement of Europeans outside of Europe not to kill or hunt the indigenous population in the 1800's and the only settlement to hand the country back to the indigenous majority because we did not commit genocide against them and turn the majorities into manorities like Canada, USA, Austrailia, New Zealand etc. We did not hyave a dollar on each scalp brought back. We developed our tribes into the brightest and best GDP figures in Africa.We are less racist then many other cultures around the world....
Racism in one form or another exists all over the world and denying it is like an ostrich sticking its head in the sand. Step into a multi-cutural gathering and people naturally group together according to language, culture and/or religion. That happens everywhere and is natural....
Please go and look at my FB page...Phillippus Rudolph Smith and see my friends...Pakistanis, Nepalis, Bengalis, Fhillipinos, Saudis, and all shades of South Africans....I am not racist as I had a marriage across colour lines and fought for that right in the Houses of Parliment but to think we can ever eliminate racism or that any form of social engineering will work anywhere is disillusioned. One gets racists in all nations and tribes, groups and I do not condone it but I understand it having lived, visited and worked in 14 nations in Africa and the Middle East. Nationalism is a form of racism...Yes, we have to eliminate corruption as it is killing AFRICA and investment in AFRICA. Take care. May GOD be with you.
brownbear900 This does come quite late but I don't believe I was denying anything. I was making a critical analysis of the documentary, not voicing my opinion on the matter of Racism in South Africa.
Thanks for categorising me based on my skin colour though, that was completely justified. Have a nice day.
Funny how every single person has a different accent :D
Because there are a lot of different cultures in South Africa. And people over-seas love coming here. For some reason
@@waltermisery451 The British has a tendency to mix every race together in a salad bowl.
It seems like everyone on both sides has some unjust and hold on to it. I would blame the older generation for subjecting their children, but at some point as a collective need to forgive each other, trust each other and move on to enriching all lives in South Africa.
No bitch. Africa is for Africans
@@davidjohnsonGT Yes and if you were born in Africa then you are African. Whether if you are black or white.
Coming from Cape Town I can proudly tell you that CAPE TOWN is a progressive racism state with a clear racial segregation, institutional racism.
Equality goes beyond diverse cultures, economically it is more than 80% white ones wealth, in joburg every is equal economically, financially and racially. The apartheid government that transformed to what now is DEMOCRATIC ALLIANCE is making sure that no one deserves to be on top of the food chain other than whites. Having political power means nothing if you have no control over the economy and the DA is making sure not to lose that power in cape Town.
The ANC on the other hand sold out on it's people before 1994 so that they can stay in power for a long run. It has failed in the educational sector the only way blacks and coloured can get economic power. It's a win win game for Politicians and Whites and it's a losing battle for the majority that was and still is treated like a second class is South Africa.
South Africa's Economic Growth will start to falter in 2019 with the constitutional passing of the Land Reparations Without Compensation which is another word for Governmental Eminent Domain. With the present farmers on the land being kicked out by the native South African's the first economy to crash will be the agricultural sector. in 2020 with the emigration of 8.5 to 9% being threatened by genocide, the whole SA economy will begin a massive fall begining by at least a -10% drop and much worse from 2021 and beyond. This is due to the policies being set by the EFF and the ANC for this economic and political catastrophe. South Africa's destiny is to be a ramshackled mess for the next 1000 years onward from 2020.
You basically predicted the future
I'm embarrassed to be a white person😔, it's our fault we colonised South Africa.
Really?
Yes😔, i like your pic.
Nice Reporting!
I'm a mexican married to a coloured woman, that lady in the beginning of your interview says and I quote "mixed race people, maybe black and white or whatever" is a completely false statement, degrading their culture. I take offense to that. as she says, I say the same about her, that is subtle racism, most coloureds are khoisan descendants, I live in cape town.
The Xhosa were way up by the Kei River. Not in Cape Town in those days.
yes most not all
I find the comments by the brunet girl at 4:40 inherently offensive . . . that "even then that's only when development came to South Africa", then being the time white settlers got here. Development could be anything really that benefits people. So who said black people were in anyway suffering without white people's development. The lack of consideration some people like her, put into their thought simply baffles me.
Lesego Rapoo no modern medicine, no quick transport, oh wait! No wheel.
It's true tho. Yall never buily anything blacks didn't build ships and explore the world. Sorry truth hurt anc has destroyed south africa and I'm sure you can blame white people for that too. And there is successful black groups around the world. Virgin islands a thriving country that'd lead by black people while hati and south africa is trash holes
Right near the start of this video it turns into utter garbage spoken with great conviction by a young lady (at minute 1:06) who suggests without blinking an eyelid that "The true inhabitants (whatever "true" means) of this area are the Khoisan and Xhosa people".
She is speaking total and utter drivel. When the Dutch landed at the Cape in 1652 the amaXhosa lived right at the southern border of what is now the KwaZulu-Natal province. There is a simple way to realise that. The key rivers that formed borders between white and black in the 1800s, the Kei and the Keiskamma ( both EAST of the Great Fish River border) had KHOISAN NAMES, not Xhosa names. What does that tell an intelligent human being? Perhaps this young lady can name me a river anywhere between Cape Town and Port Alfred that bears a Xhosa name. She cannot, OK?
It took literally 50 years-- two generations-- for white and black to first meet each other overland in 1702. That happened around 600 miles east of the Cape... and I can provide the names of the people. It took until around 1780--one hundred and thirty years--for the first war between white and black, and it took place SIX HUNDRED miles east of Cape Town. So Bahador should go and edit this thing.
When I hear stuff like that, I turn off the video, and so should any other person of intelligence who sees this video. No good can come of it.
Black South African's keep the myth that when the Dutch arrived it was populated with the ancestors of the current Africans. This is, as you point out untrue. The narrative is that the whites stole land from them. But they weren't there at the time. Their ancestors were north. The Africans that live in SA today migrated to SA in order to get jobs in the society that the European settlers created. However, present-day Africans claim that all white ownership of land is based upon theft, and the EFF wants all land taken from whites and redistributed to Africans. Even when repeatedly contradicted, black South Africans continue to latch onto this story. Black South Africans see all property as land, and do not recognize that the reason SA ever developed into what it became was that it was settled by Europeans. Similarly, Austalia would not have any tall buildings or roads today if it had not been settled by Australians. None of this is to endorse mistreatments of blacks, but both things can be true at the same time. The rather surprising thing is that even under apartheid, SA had a long term problem with illegal immigration from African countries north of SA. This means that Africans greatly preferred moving to a white/European based system as second class citizens then staying in their own African run countries. Within one or two generations, the African migrants changed the storyline to be that the whites had not allowed them into the country, but instead had stole their land where they had been for thousands of years.
@@supersnapp WHY did the Dutch ARRIVE ??
Either way Africa is not their place. The didn’t come to Cape Town with the intention of living peaceful with the indigenous people of Africa, they came here to dominate and own land. They ended up coming to places where Khoisan and Xhosas stayed, and even so, they didn’t come with peace they were brutalising black indigenous people. So don’t speak kak here.
@@foreverziyanda As people who read here can now see for themselves, people start swearing in public when they cannot handle the truth. The ANC in South Africa has been trying for a long time to pretend that white people do not belong in South Africa. The previous president sang on stage about killing them. But here's the thing: South African President Cyril Ramaphosa's Venda people arrived on the South African side of the border with Zimbabwe at the same time as the Dutch settled at the Cape of Good Hope. Are you suggesting he does not belong? What about the Shangaan people who arrived only in the 1800s? Should they leave? As for "brutalising", do you even know what the Mfecane was and how Mzilikazi would heap branches on groups of women and children and set them alight? You need serious calibration. Try starting with your own history. And, try to be civil, though it is apparently very difficult for you.
Go to London , there is separation there too. Whites and blacks live in different areas.
This doc is amazing, getting to hear South Africans talk about the actual real life situations - at the beginning of society post-apartheid in the 90's and now in 2015. Your talk with the 3 people on the road and especially the talk with the blue shirt guy who has excelled in sports, was so wonderful to watch. Racism still exists, subtle or not. Keep up the good work!!!
Cape Town is one isolated area of South Africa. It is almost a country in itself. If you wanted to gain a true perspective on the current situation in South Africa you would need to return and interview people of all demographics from ALL the provinces in the country. My opinion, your documentary should be titled Racism in Cape Town after Apartheid. This is definately not a true representation of South Africa as a whole.
I love you guys and thank you for doing this video. Economic freedom we've got but the ANC after president Mbeki squandered our economy. Before Zupta if we can all recall the rand was R6 rand something to the dollar and even planning to find ways to stop the momentum of the rand. Our economy was growing rapidly (above 5%). Then came the Zuptas, we'll we all know how that unfolded. Before Ramaphosa was elected, some white famers were planning to give some of their land to the black communities and mentor them into being farmers, then came land expropriation without compensation (daylight robbery if you ask me), then our rand moved from R10 to above R15 against the dollar, white famers stopped whatever they were planning to do. Too many wrongs I can say, but I think every one who's not biased knows the truth. When Madiba was still the president, most white business man were giving him money to rebuild this country whenever he asked for. As a Black South African, I understand why some white people still hate blacks (mostly thanks to the ANC).
The CATALYST to #BlackGroupEconomics
What I think poor South Africans need to do is come together and build an economic base, that has a legal structure with transparency and a financially sound foundation; to provide the capital that every black small business (new, old, start ups, etc.) could benefit from.. across South Africa. Everyone benefits; bar none! WE ARE DISRESPECTED because we don't practice #BlackGroupEconomics
1 million blacks pledging $1.25+ a week towards a BLACK Economic FUND to finance all black projects!
$1.25 x 1,000,000 x 4 = 5,000,000+
Yes; start with one million black South Africans and perfect it then spread it.
There should be multiple locations for members could select projects for immediate funding! This is what's going to CREATE JOBS FOR BLACK MEN & WOMEN! $1.25 is not a lot for anyone to contribute. Create cooperatives and stop depending on the Government for what you could do collectively for yourselves! South Africans need to form large co-ops and POOL their monies; that's the only way to solve their immediate issues.
Do you know how many jobs, businesses, clinics, restaurants, farms, factories, etc. could be created with 5 MILLION DOLLARS+ a month? It's one thing for black folks to post positive images all day.. every day, but there's another thing when we don't take collective action to create and provide for our community. There's a strong force of habituation that locks us down in a cycle of monotony; which also prevents us from UNIFYING on the most critical issue! Many who claim to be conscious are not; they're still governed by the REPTILIAN BRAIN; which is seen in their behavior.
Asians, Whites, etc. get together for a few drinks and before you know it, they've created a business from an idea that came up over their beers. Hopefully the right black folks would see our cry for economic unity and take action!
Let's make this go VIRAL:
#1MillionBlacksForEconomicEmpowerment.
Is it me or does this tragedy only happen in protestant countries? Are they being punished ...
I was born in cape Town
And leave in 1979.How
Is the living there? Is it
Peaceful?
Channel:
Loving Life
Daily reports from SA.
03:48 Says South Africa is a racist country. 04:04 Fourteen seconds later says South Africa isn't a racist country. LOL
A very eye opening documentary good job.
i regret watching and reading the comments from this video,
im comin out of america.. excuse my ignorance.. what would be the direct difference between colored and black? they separate colored and black a few times in this vid.. does colored mean brown? like im latino,, am i colored in south africa?
Love the South African accent. Pleasing to the ear. Clear, with no use of slang,....etc.
funny inaccuracy at 1:18 - no bantu tribe, including the xhosa, reached cape town or even the western cape, before the europeans. the original inhabitants of south africa, if you feel they should have some kind of legal superiority afforded to them, were the khoi and the san.
but I am not too sure what this would have to do with cooperating to build a successful future together.
+Charles N the xhosa settled, after their migration south, about 1000kms from Cape Town!
THE BANTU EXPANSION
The notion that Black people migrated from West Central Africa downwards to the South a 100 years after the Whites had settled in South African is utter nonsense and if you research it you will quickly discover that there is no archaeological evidence or any genetic evidence that has been conclusive enough to substantiate that such a mass migration ever took place but the validity of most studies and at best this White Theory is solely based on linguistics. The similarity in the languages is the only submitted argument, there's no DNA proof Mr "Williems" because just recently a Cultural DNA study was done and the Genetic study involving 220 participants representing 11 populations across southern Africa , revealed around 2.3 million DNA variants per individual, according to the journal Science this challenges the theory that modern humans came from just one place in Africa as well.
So let's revisit the story of who the Khoisan are?
THE KHOISAN were not a Southern African Tribe but they are descendants of Slaves who arrived with the Dutch East India Company and the term Khoisan was coined by Leonhard Schultze of Germany. (Please read: Oxford Research Encyclopedia - African History - Slavery at the Cape and Ethnology of Africa) I have copied an extract from the Oxford Book and it reads "Slaves were transported to the Cape from a wide range of areas in the Indian Ocean world, including South and Southeast Asia, Madagascar, and Mozambique. The majority were sold to settlers and worked as domestic servants in Cape Town or as laborers on the grain, wine, and pastoral farms of the Cape interior. Throughout the 18th century slaves outnumbered settlers. Although there were few major revolts, individual resistance was widespread and desertion common. Some runaways joined indigenous groups in the Cape interior, while others formed more isolated maroon communities."
What happened to those maroon communities? They became what is now known as the KHOISAN and this name was established in 1905 Leonhard Schultze.
So now let's focus on the man who gave them this name Leonhard Schultze, he was a Zoologist and Anthropologist. In his research he says that in Southern Africa he discovered two groups of people and they were the Hottentot and the Bushman which he later compounded into the group called KHOISAN and he says that the word Koi came from the Bushman when referring to the Hottentots. Okay, so where does the word Koi originate from then?.
Koi or more specifically nishikigoi (錦鯉) is an informal group of the colored variants of the Cyprinus carpio. Several varieties are recognized by the Japanese. Koi varieties are distinguished by coloration, patterning, and scalation. Koi are Japanese fish!
Remember earlier in the Oxford extract. It says that slaves who ran away joined indigenous groups in the Cape interior. We all know that when two different races mix, a multiracial child is born. Hottentots and Bushman (Maroon Communities) they were similar in terms of their built and features but varied in color, why?
Bushman runaway slaves who fled into the Bush and did not want to join the indiginous groups (Marron Community) and then the Hottentots ARE THE GROUP OF SLAVES WHO JOINED THE INDIGENOUS TRIBES --- even the word Hottentot is a Dutch word from German hotteren-totteren ‘stutter’ (with reference to their language, in which clicking sounds are used). In Southern Africa we all know which groups of people use Clicking sounds. the NAMA are located in the North most parts of Southern Africa and even to this day can be found in Namibia ( also home of the HERERO people), Mozambique, Zimbambwe, South Africa (Most around the Kruger National park) and the NGUNI people( Xhosa's, Zulu, Ndebele, Tsonga, Sotho etc.) If you check the map the closes tribes to Cape Town has alwas been the XHOSA's and they have predominantly 5 clicking sounds where in the case of the Nama they have three clicking sounds. Okay let's focus on the Hottentots again.
If it is true that Schultze took the word Koi-koi from the Bushmen who themselves used this term to refer to Hottentots (meaning that the Hottentots were indeed mixed race) then this proves without a measure of doubt that in fact they were descendants of those slaves who were Asian and lets not leave out the fact that Schultze himself was a Zoologist who had traveled the known world and he must have known about about the Japanese Fish called the Koi which is distinguishable by it's coloration. Either way Khoisan is of foreign origin.
Schultze named them Koi-koi --- due to their multiracial features and please I know some of you try to say that Khoisan are the NAMA people. They are not Khoisan and this is most evident in their language. Which brings me to my final point.
Khoisan people use Afrikaans and the development of the Afrikaans language can also be attributed to slavery. Slaves came from many different places and spoke different languages but the NAMA like their close relatives the NGUNI and HERERO use Clicking sounds when they speak...Click Click Click.
Remember what studies say about THE BANTU EXPANSION most of the studies use similarity in our languages to prove we are from North African and if you search you will find that all the African groups in the Southern Territories use Clicks, all of them except but one and that is the Khoisan, they mostly use Afrikaans. A language influenced greatly by non-African languages. So how can they be the original people? I Xhosa and my name is Cumani and Mr Williams says he is my great grand father and yet his surname is European, a name of a slave master and that's a fact.
White people are trying to write us out of our history... research about Willie Lynch and then google South African Shacks...see who pops up!
Another thing guys. We know that in South Africa we have an existing Ethnic group of Colored People. I am not in any sharp or form saying that they are Khoisan. I was informed by my Colored colleague that they are two separate groups as well. I just pointed out that the Khoisan are also mixed race and I acknowledge them as South Africans like I acknowledge White South Africans as well but I just wanted to set the record straight. NGUNI people are not children of the Khoisan! Wee need to respect each others identities if we aim to succeed as a Multicultural society!!!
i love south africa im of mixed race, and yes one does feel different, but also there is change in south africa its a melting pot
Cape Town is the only „melting pot“ in the country.
Thank you for the film and your work
South Africa just like the U.S.of America will not find a quick answer to their indigenous people's or the ex slave problem. You can't fix 400 years of colonization slavery murder and c racism. in 20 years. maybe not in 100 years if your not very serious about repairing that problem. The entire population of whites and those of color all have to be re educated. So many Africans were denied an equal opportunity at education housing health etc. Of course if whites have had the best education that money could buy, how can a African compete. Affirmative action alone is not going to solve the problem. People have to love each other enough to come together and deal with what 400 years of abuse has done to everyone
deepthang It’s funny but no one talks about when white where slaves for 1200 years. It’s was not just the white People that had black slaves . So talk about that too.
0:42 It is not easy to achieve economic freedom. It means self-sufficiency. A lot of developed countries are not economically free, especially the small countries without a lot of resources.
Come to Swaziland , we welcome everyone...
Ok, a factual documentary, which is trying to make people sharing their opinions like a friends discussion around a table/in a bar. People share their observations about their neighborhood like you and me if someone ask your opinion in the street .
So, I think it is an interesting documentary.
Julien
Race is real learn to live with it.
Why wasn't their nice streets and decent council homes built for the majority in southafrica ? We're are the decent respectable council homes ,decent street designs ? Your all hypocrites
People are living with the consequences of the complete lack of resources over a hundreds of years
address that crime,
address them facts
Great Job done!!!!
economic transformation isn't jus gonna happen by signing documents and dressing nicely ,,,driving nice cars and speaking English like you've lived in England ..... racial integration in many spheres of our society ....social cohesion , and will from our young people to change the platforms that we only paved for a select few is what we need ... a real BEE diversified nation can only happen when we don look at the color of each other's skins but by educating ourselves about our environment and backgrounds .... i'm happy to work with people who don't see me as being a black man among st them but a colleague that is there becoz i deserve to be there and my contribution to the company isn't measured by my inclusion as a black person but my hard work ...... it also motivates me to know there's more white people willing to come visit me in my township and experience what my social ills than someone who constantly views black communities as slums and impoverished places where only crime and rape is the order of the day..... living in Soweto i happen to see and meet a lot of foreign nationals visiting the museums and tour our neighborhood jus to see how we live ....as i wou'd if i was a tourist in their country ..... the sad thing is to see how few white South Africans make the same effort ..
I was on business in India and had a rare moment to speak to an older, educated Indian man. He said, and I paraphrase, 'bring back the English'
+Poop Snake ...Yeah right...'Bring back the English".....Yes, As long as its not India.....He would not say that to Mahatma Ghandi....
+Poop Snake ....Tell that Indian you should be obvious partners, in bringing back the English to India. That would be much easier and more fun, wouldn't it?
Mean British...
Tell that to a person is in Indian para commando. Then you will get your answer.
THE SAME HAPPENED TO ME IN MYANMAR (BURMA)
Economic and entrepreneurial activity is significantly more important than integration. The latter can either be a socially engineered action or left to organic processes. A socially engineered solution would be resisted as it should be.
Nice docu man. I enjoyed it!
I'm safa. From Jozi. Living in Indianapolis.
At the end of the day it is all up to the people to improve themselves. You can't sit around waiting for handouts from the government. You can't just move into a posh neighbourhood if you can't afford it.And as for the White people, you are not alone, in many Southeast Asian countries you need to work much harder if you are considered a non-native, so don't pin your hopes on government jobs and government universities. There is so much we can learn from the Chinese and Indians who migrated to various places in the world, they arrived with nothing, now many of them are thriving.