WW2 From the Chinese Perspective | Animated History

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  • @SeanDahle
    @SeanDahle Рік тому +3065

    For China WW2 was pretty much a battle of survival just like Poland only on a bigger scale. Not only that but the Chinese Civil War took place around the same time and continued after ww2 until 1949

    • @pancholopez8829
      @pancholopez8829 Рік тому +268

      And before. You can say the civil war began since the 1911 Beiyang Revolution, which then lead to the Warlord Era till 1928. Where the Civil War between the CCP and KMT began till 1949.
      That is 38 years of civil war, with 8 of those being invaded by the foreign power that is Japan.

    • @delta2372
      @delta2372 Рік тому

      And the chinese has greater atrocities committed on them than those the germans deemed "undesirable" you want some nightmare fuel go read on unit 731.

    • @蔡蔡不是台独应该争取
      @蔡蔡不是台独应该争取 Рік тому

      As a Chinese, I don’t like the idea of ​​a large Poland. We have resisted for 14 years. The Kuomintang and the Communist Party have launched countless counterattacks in front of the enemy’s rear. and Crush India (UK) If China is defeated, think about how many Japanese troops can be transferred to other places. They can immediately take down Australia and India, they can take down these places without much effort, and they can rush all the way to the Middle East.

    • @GerMFnU1848Sax
      @GerMFnU1848Sax Рік тому +157

      As an American, I respect the Chinese for their heroism and will to defeat their foe. WW2 is always written about USA and USSR winning

    • @john2g1
      @john2g1 Рік тому

      How different would the world be if all leaders could follow one simple rule?
      Don't be a d***.

  • @toastertastic5085
    @toastertastic5085 Рік тому +4725

    China is such an overlooked aspect of WW2. It warms my heart that this is finally getting talked about more.

    • @redwind5150
      @redwind5150 Рік тому +47

      No it's not really.

    • @longarmboiiiiiiiiiii6823
      @longarmboiiiiiiiiiii6823 Рік тому +268

      @@redwind5150 I mean not necessarily, is just that in most schools in the U.S it isn’t really talked about

    • @Ihavpickle
      @Ihavpickle Рік тому +7

      Wait actually?

    • @redwind5150
      @redwind5150 Рік тому +27

      @@longarmboiiiiiiiiiii6823 how would you know most schools don't talk about it?

    • @reichjef
      @reichjef Рік тому +40

      I don’t think anyone is really overlooking it. I’d argue that people the world over are at least tangentially familiar with the tragedy at Nanking.

  • @antitroller101
    @antitroller101 Рік тому +1258

    The irony of the safety zone in Nanking was that the de facto leader was the Nazi supporting German diplomat. Another ironic thing is that he also wrote back to his superiors and to Hitler describing his disgust at the atrocities and questioning if a alliance with Japanese was morally and practically acceptable

    • @miliba
      @miliba Рік тому +282

      John Rabe
      A true hero despite his affiliation

    • @jink1768
      @jink1768 Рік тому +287

      That man’s grave was moved to China after he passed and he is still viewed as a hero by most people there.

    • @kuenluo1207
      @kuenluo1207 Рік тому

      那个时候的德国人没有不做纳粹党员的自由

    • @lolasdm6959
      @lolasdm6959 Рік тому

      @@jink1768 only based nazi

    • @tacitus6384
      @tacitus6384 Рік тому +233

      He saved the lives of 250,000 Chinese, he's viewed as a hero.

  • @TristanOlea-Rivera
    @TristanOlea-Rivera Рік тому +1825

    it is nice that you covered the Chinese perspective of the war. Most books on ww2 books I find don't go into detail about the Chinese in ww2

    • @TristanOlea-Rivera
      @TristanOlea-Rivera Рік тому +14

      woops I added books twice my bad

    • @itsblitz4437
      @itsblitz4437 Рік тому +57

      Right?! Its ridiculous as the Pacific War is not very often covered.

    • @nexusthenormie5578
      @nexusthenormie5578 Рік тому +16

      ​@@itsblitz4437I always wondered what happened to China during the second world war, i know there was the chinese civil war

    • @jimmynoobtron3516
      @jimmynoobtron3516 Рік тому +28

      Its ironic that history books always cover America's and Russia's rise as world super powers because of WW2 but never cover the other country that benefited from that war: China. With 2/3rds of Asia being left in disarray after Japans imperial collapse, it set the stage for China to quickly take over as the predominant power in the region which is huge considering how much that region came to be involved in world politics during the 20th century.

    • @ricklopez8431
      @ricklopez8431 Рік тому +4

      I recommend you give a read to "Tower of Skulls"

  • @thecolorofstone1819
    @thecolorofstone1819 Рік тому +1457

    China really endured a lot of pain and suffering during the war and after. I'm glad this is getting talked about more often.

    • @GerMFnU1848Sax
      @GerMFnU1848Sax Рік тому +10

      Same

    • @CobraQuotes1
      @CobraQuotes1 Рік тому +1

      @@sandwich5344 i know it’s such a disgrace what white people from USA and EU did to the indians and africans

    • @squirrelsinjacket1804
      @squirrelsinjacket1804 Рік тому +150

      The history of this era explains why modern China still holds a lot of animosity against Japan.

    • @LittleBridge77
      @LittleBridge77 Рік тому +6

      Yes, and much more than that​@@squirrelsinjacket1804

    • @jink1768
      @jink1768 Рік тому +62

      @@sandwich5344 dude you're not saying the truth you're just being racist towards Chinese specifically by treating like they're the only evil in the world.

  • @shojunichi
    @shojunichi Рік тому +641

    Thank you for all your hard work on this episode as well as the others. As a 3rd generation Chinese Singaporean, my grandfather escaped from China in the 1920s during the country's turbulent period. The Sino-Japanese war of 1894 was still felt in the 1920s as Japan conquered the Korean peninsula with parts of Northeast Manchuria commiting numerous atrocities, long before they invaded again in 1931. In 1942, Japan invaded and conquered Singapore and killed an estimated 50,000+ civilians (mostly Chinese) out of a population of 900,000+ people for their purportedly monetary support of China against Japan. This history is made a compulsory subject for all secondary school students here in Singapore.

    • @goofyahking
      @goofyahking Рік тому +44

      I'm also a singaporean and the japanese were so brutal to us Chinese people rest in peace to the fallen soldier of most sea county and china :(

    • @川流不息233
      @川流不息233 Рік тому

      鬼子的不做人程度是鬼见了都怕的程度

    • @flyingfox2548
      @flyingfox2548 Рік тому

      Let's be clear that even if overseas chinese did not send monetary support to China, those Japanese soldiers will still kill and torture overseas chinese reason being China gave them a hard time to accomplish their goals.

    • @chunyanmi5643
      @chunyanmi5643 Рік тому +6

      You can talk about wars happened in China over and over again, it makes no difference like talking about any wars in the world. Chinese people are mostly Han Zu 汉族. Han languages, Han rituals, Han ancestors' efforts, .... all of these make a difference when you talk about war or any historical events. Our ancestors had made great contributions to the world's progress, and BEFORE any other country did. Why the word today puts us into such a hard time today? They all think that they are the best in the world, while pushing the real one that deserves that into destruction.

    • @ferapont1756
      @ferapont1756 Рік тому

      respect the truth!

  • @龙忠伟
    @龙忠伟 Рік тому +198

    My hometown is in the mountainous area of ​​Xiangxi, China. When I was young, I heard from my grandma that more than 20 young people in our village went to fight against Japan, and only two returned in the end. Thank you for letting more people know about our history of suffering.

    • @gijones82163
      @gijones82163 6 місяців тому +7

      Government wise the Chinese people are extremely brave, honorable, and heroic. Much respect to the elderlies, that is why there is so many benefits for elders in China

    • @Ho-Husheng
      @Ho-Husheng 3 місяці тому +3

      湘西老乡吗?

    • @pengshengzhu
      @pengshengzhu 3 місяці тому +1

      致敬🫡

    • @JK_Anthony
      @JK_Anthony 2 місяці тому +2

      湘军在抗战中的牺牲尤为惨烈❤

  • @SirBoggins
    @SirBoggins Рік тому +248

    Man, the designs of these Armies and their equipment are amazing! Goes to show how far you guys could go 👍🏼

  • @E-Flight
    @E-Flight Рік тому +755

    As a Chinese I feel happy that the world acknowledges more and more of our history and suffering

    • @thebomber7641
      @thebomber7641 Рік тому

      I hope your communist gov would not bring even more suffering to the world. Looking back at what the communist russia did to Ukraine in 2022 and prior to that all the other acts of genocide throughout the history. Cant say that communism is any better than the reich of ww2.

    • @Nevancen
      @Nevancen Рік тому +80

      Japanese never felt sorry for that

    • @zervont3046
      @zervont3046 Рік тому +1

      @@Nevancen be quiet race traitor

    • @rocketman831
      @rocketman831 Рік тому +8

      How are you using youtube are you using a vpn?

    • @vasilikosolov
      @vasilikosolov Рік тому +11

      @@rocketman831 probably taiwanese or ethic Chinese in other countries, or a priviledged CCP member hahahah

  • @asianperson104
    @asianperson104 Рік тому +1918

    My grandpa was a medic for the Nationalist army up until ichi-go where he was hit by shrapnel. He said that at some times, the men didn’t have rice to eat or ammunition to fire, yet they still resisted to their last for China as subjugation to the Japanese meant the destruction of Chinese civilization

    • @clownpendotfart
      @clownpendotfart Рік тому

      A contrarian (who I won't name here) said the Japanese were better than the KMT because they did a better job of running Taiwan. I think basically everyone in mainland China would disagree with that.

    • @harryholden795
      @harryholden795 Рік тому +277

      @@willsung5965 bro why would you support the Japanese Empire?

    • @willsung5965
      @willsung5965 Рік тому

      @@harryholden795 Many people don't understand the truth.All this begin from 1927 ,Chinese killed several Japanese in Nanking with no reason.Japanese just revenge and unfortunately 🇺🇲 's kindness
      was be used by China so that they sanction 🇯🇵,force 🇯🇵 to start a war can not win.All this is because Chinese hide their true side.

    • @channel7zip
      @channel7zip Рік тому +229

      @@harryholden795 it's bait

    • @hydrogenivtinyhare5218
      @hydrogenivtinyhare5218 Рік тому

      @@willsung5965 bro why not go to Germany and show your support to the Third Reich and see how long they will let you rot in prison

  • @lordkent8143
    @lordkent8143 Рік тому +186

    This honestly made me tear up a bit. My late grandfather lived in those times under Japanese occupation. He was a child but he remembered it well: Constant hiding in the forest from troops, his sisters dressing up like men to avoid harassment, his grandpa being beaten up by troops by just showing up at the wrong place at the wrong time. It was a miracle my grandfather even survived.

    • @高高哈哈
      @高高哈哈 4 місяці тому

      呢nookooooo oo
      oo
      olj

    • @Yugracefwoodel
      @Yugracefwoodel 3 місяці тому +1

      Your grandpa’s grandpa being beaten by troop? Chinese army or Japanese army?

    • @ninos19861
      @ninos19861 3 місяці тому +2

      @@Yugracefwoodel of course by Japanese army

    • @dinx3815
      @dinx3815 3 місяці тому +1

      @@Yugracefwoodel he said Japanese occupation time so.

    • @Yugracefwoodel
      @Yugracefwoodel 3 місяці тому

      @@dinx3815 I thought he mean because it’s military charged period so that the Chinese army will force normal citizen to cooperate with them otherwise gonna be beaten or punished, anyway, respected eight cross and any other protect their nations Chinese army

  • @heakhaek
    @heakhaek Рік тому +413

    As a Chinese Australian I'm glad that you're shining light on forgotten fronts off WW2. I suggest you try looking into the other forgotten fronts like the West Africa against Vichy France or Burma theatre. My grandmother from Thailand remembers when the Japanese occupied Thailand.

    • @wl82
      @wl82 Рік тому +20

      30M people dead in China during WW2, they shall not be forgotten.

    • @DerickC_
      @DerickC_ Рік тому +2

      As a Chinese australian english **

    • @Battlefield1918
      @Battlefield1918 8 місяців тому +2

      Australia and Chinese contributions in WW2 (for the Chinese the late 30's aswell) needs to be talked about more.

    • @tantank
      @tantank 4 місяці тому

      ​@@wl82 most of which were civilian, like most other countries in ww2

    • @ryana5435
      @ryana5435 2 місяці тому

      Because Murica “re-educated” Japan after WWII and gained a lot of benefits from that and since then. Now Japan is Murica’s ally. Murica controlled the majority of western literacy world and media. So that’s why.

  • @AquaStrategist
    @AquaStrategist Рік тому +431

    The struggles of China that defined the nation in modern days, and led to her seat as a major power on the UN Security Council is so often underrepresented and not talked about enough. So many times I talk to people in America and commonly the response is “what did Japan do?” or “China fought in WW2?!”
    We appreciate anyone who puts notice into this deadly theater and brings it to western attention.
    All over, thank you so much.

    • @bigredwolf6
      @bigredwolf6 Рік тому

      That’s because they didn’t pay attention in history class. I guarantee if you asked them about the constitution or American history in general, they will be just as ignorant.
      We get taught about China in WW2. Flyin tigers, Grape of Nanking, etc. hell we even went over the opium wars and the boxer rebellion which is even further back in time than WW2.

    • @lolasdm6959
      @lolasdm6959 Рік тому

      No, the Americans which forged the UN, were correct to recognize China will eventually become a great power. Because United States went through a similar progress of long industrialization process and eventually converted itself from a agrian economy to a industrialized economy after the American Civil war. Had it been the Europeans that formed the UN, China would be excluded 100%.

    • @TopGuardDawg
      @TopGuardDawg Рік тому +7

      I know in school in history we look alot into WW2 but mostly in europe and sometimes the pacific but i do remember China being talked about a bit during WW2 but they don’t cover them alot compared to other countries in europe or the island hoping campaign in the pacific it wasn’t until i got to college where we actually digged deeper in the history of other countries including Chinas problem

    • @purevjargalpuujee4845
      @purevjargalpuujee4845 Рік тому

      As an Asian, I want to ask you too. “China fought in WW2 ?”

    • @Unlocked-c8c
      @Unlocked-c8c Рік тому +33

      @@purevjargalpuujee4845 You must be Japanese then, because everyone in China and Korea knows

  • @Dmitri_Donskoy
    @Dmitri_Donskoy Рік тому +642

    the resilience and the will of the Chinese nation is utmost admireble, even after years of wars and turmoil they still managed to climb their way back to the top...

    • @sandwich5344
      @sandwich5344 Рік тому +44

      By the means of undermining human rights, global health and sanity, freedom of religion and all the cruel crimes against humanity?
      I dont think that's very acceptable :(

    • @ericlee5515
      @ericlee5515 Рік тому +190

      @@sandwich5344 You didn't say what they did specifically and you provided less proof than a flat earth believer.

    • @christianhaupt2637
      @christianhaupt2637 Рік тому +43

      @@ericlee5515 oh buddy that list is extremely long, just go watch the news and you’ll see atleast one or two of each

    • @justinkim7756
      @justinkim7756 Рік тому

      ​@@ericlee5515lmao are u saying the ccp is a kind government who cares about human rights? Average socialist iq right here 😂😂

    • @arandomperson5649
      @arandomperson5649 Рік тому +172

      @@sandwich5344 I think you should look back at history abit.What happened to the native Red Indians when the Americans expand westward?Bombing nations to the ground is very good for their economy.The moment a nearby hostile state is unstable,invade them.Took advantage of the instability of Libiya,supported the rebels and overthrow the government and kill their leader and now westerners can buy oil cheaper.Also what happened in My Lai?Both China and USA have committed crimes and violated human rights for their own good,so westerners have no right to criticise china or they are just hypocrites

  • @yung8717
    @yung8717 Рік тому +44

    My great-grandfather was an army Officer in Kuomintang during the war against Japanese invasion. He died during the battle. He sacrificed his life protecting his family and motherland. I'm proud to have such an honourable ancestor.

    • @SaveSoilSaveSoil
      @SaveSoilSaveSoil 9 місяців тому +9

      感恩!英雄永垂不朽!

    • @kevinchen4514
      @kevinchen4514 6 місяців тому +7

      May God bless your grandfather in heaven. People like him are the most honourable kind of people to China.

    • @拉希德华莱登
      @拉希德华莱登 3 місяці тому +1

      国军共军都是中国人,只要你们别忘了根就行

  • @naturefan99
    @naturefan99 Рік тому +50

    My great grandfather was in the KMT army. He never talked about the war. Can't imagine what he must have went through

  • @jericho5253
    @jericho5253 Рік тому +216

    The Japanese were savage in every sense of the word. Even being warned of the nuclear weapons, they still resisted. Madness.

    • @NeostormXLMAX
      @NeostormXLMAX Рік тому +4

      that was the navy, the army were cowards of the highest degree@DililahSiti

    • @db4517
      @db4517 Рік тому

      @DililahSiti nanking

    • @成阳-m1x
      @成阳-m1x 10 місяців тому

      There are still a small number of Japanese people who believe that the invasion of China in 1931 was correct

    • @simonsimon2888
      @simonsimon2888 7 місяців тому +2

      Don't view WWII at its face value. It is well-planned and mastermind too. Japan in the East and Germany in the West. The common objective is to reduce the vast population on both sides and at the same time to get rid of all the out-dated weaponery. Hence, after WWII in rememberance of OUR GLORIOUS DEAD. In conclusion: "They died so we may live!" Hypocritical?

    • @anonimosu7425
      @anonimosu7425 2 місяці тому

      @@NeostormXLMAXarmy was insane
      everything that happened can be traced back to them.

  • @wanghugo4456
    @wanghugo4456 Рік тому +207

    As a Chinese, I appreciate your very detailed description of the war against Japan in this video, because mainland Chinese history books also describe this story in detail, and we call many generals, including but not limited to the Kuomintang, foreign friends who protected the Chinese during the Nanking Massacre. In China nowadays, we also have museums and memorials on the theme of anti-Japanese resistance, as well as monuments for all the brave martyrs and related commemorative days.Anyway, thank you very much for the video, which can make more people know this history that not many people know.

    • @Franklin-hx5pu
      @Franklin-hx5pu Рік тому +1

      I appreciate the narration from the bro,and so do you.Frankly speaking, I've never been so proud of our country, together with her contribution to the war aiming for the liberty of the whole world.

    • @andrew3203
      @andrew3203 Рік тому +1

      Yeah, but no. The communist guerillas did about 3-5% of fighting against Japan, but assumed all the honors. And after they massacred everyone else involved (and their families too), there was nobody else to tell the tale. The Japanese may have killed 10 million Chinese, but the communists killed 100 million.

    • @JC-ie3gj
      @JC-ie3gj Рік тому

      Your so-called foreign friends protected you so they can continue to exploit your countries resources. You can thank Japan for preventing that by weakening Chiang's army just for the communist to swoop in and take power

    • @luewang6977
      @luewang6977 11 місяців тому +7

      ​@@andrew3203We welcome you to learn about the history of China's War of Resistance Against Japanese Aggression, but it is clear that you are only trying to discredit the Communist guerrillas, which is completely baseless. China has built many monuments, and even the veterans of the Kuomintang are given adequate subsidies and care. And you don't know anything about it, and you're even spreading rumors!

    • @锦书-l8i
      @锦书-l8i 10 місяців тому

      I hope your knowledge comes from official sources, not urban legends

  • @sebastiant1577
    @sebastiant1577 Рік тому +39

    Thank you so much for this video, the chinnese front against the japanese is so overlooked when studying the 30s and WW2 and hearing from a youtuber like you warm my heart, as it will spread the information and get it more talked about. Usually when I mentioned my great great grandfather and his brother fought together in the war against the japanese, most people would not even know that the second sino japanese war ever happened or dismissed it completely.
    However i kind of understand the lack of knowledge, media and history classes mostly focuses on the war in Asia being fought by the british commonwealth and the americans against the japanese. The only reason I ever learn about it, is because of my heritage where the involvement of my great great grandparent and his brother in a long fought war at the other side of the world has been passed on. An old binocular is all whats left, but it keeps his story alive.
    Thanks for the effort!

  • @official-ti9hs
    @official-ti9hs Рік тому +129

    Excellent content as always!

    • @JacobFraps
      @JacobFraps Рік тому +4

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    • @pwn3r1
      @pwn3r1 Рік тому +2

      ​@@JacobFraps cry

    • @justinkim7756
      @justinkim7756 Рік тому +7

      ​@@JacobFrapsew poor

    • @JacobFraps
      @JacobFraps Рік тому

      @@pwn3r1 🥺😭 I no money's

    • @JacobFraps
      @JacobFraps Рік тому

      @@justinkim7756 my family Is rich I live in a gated community 🤑 I just no momeys because kids

  • @張理-d8d
    @張理-d8d Рік тому +233

    in August 1937, one month after the Japanese invaded the Northern China, my father left school as a freshman of University of Beijing and joint the Army.
    then he fought against the invader for the next 8 full years, until August 15, 1945.
    during that period, he lost his parents and fiancee, when VJ Day finally came, he had had nothing beside a miserable memory.

  • @terribilisguy246
    @terribilisguy246 Рік тому +38

    So happy we have UA-camrs like The Armchair Historian

    • @russiankodiak6849
      @russiankodiak6849 5 місяців тому +1

      His highlights for me are talking about the Australian, Italian, and Chinese involvement in WW2. Hope he does some Greece videos in the future, such an interesting theater of war the Mediterranean was in WW2

  • @Omsk_War_Criminal
    @Omsk_War_Criminal Рік тому +497

    Japan to the Usa: I am sorry
    Japan to the rest of Asia: *I would do it again!*

    • @TechieWidget
      @TechieWidget Рік тому +115

      It's because of right-wing nationalist Japanese politicians and groups like Nippon Kaigi, why People's Republic of China and two Koreas still have resentment towards Japanese government and continue to maintain, build and spend money on their own military. They learnt a harsh lesson from their Qing and Joseon predecessors whom neglected their militaries.

    • @whathell6t
      @whathell6t Рік тому +22

      @@TechieWidget
      Ironically, those Asian countries always remember their resentment due to continuing watching Tokusatsu medium, the only place where Japanese acknowledge their war crimes and Unit 731.
      Especially through Ultraman and Kamen Rider where the Chinese kids, Filipinos kids, Korean kids, Indonesian kids, and Korean kids learn the resentment facts.

    • @syyin1885
      @syyin1885 Рік тому

      Until now some right wing Japanese think they apologized for military failure, not humanitarian disasters. The Chrysanthemum and the Sword is a good book about the difference.

    • @lolasdm6959
      @lolasdm6959 Рік тому +32

      @@TechieWidget By right wing nationalists you mean like vast majority of the population in Japan?

    • @device_not_found
      @device_not_found Рік тому +82

      Japan has a tradition of bowing to the strong and ruthlessly bullying the weak

  • @loganbagley7822
    @loganbagley7822 Рік тому +44

    One of the craziest and most unexpected stories of the Nanking massacre was how John Rabe, a Nazi, set up a safe zone and saved the lives of thousands of Chinese civilians.

    • @shanzhao-v6v
      @shanzhao-v6v 4 місяці тому

      There is also Ms. Minnie Vautrin of Nanjing Women's College, who protected thousands of Chinese women in the Nanjing Massacre to prevent them from being raped by the Japanese.

    • @DennisC-zc2yi
      @DennisC-zc2yi 2 місяці тому +2

      "The Flowers of War(2011)"

    • @anonimosu7425
      @anonimosu7425 2 місяці тому

      KMT was the true ally of Nazi Germany, not Japan.

  • @tianhaoju4634
    @tianhaoju4634 Рік тому +109

    Great work as always, apperciate the effort you put into different perspectives of the WW2 and other conflicts
    Til this day, cities across China rings air raid alarms on multiple days marking infamy of the nation

    • @徐奥美王
      @徐奥美王 День тому

      中国人这辈子都不可能原来日本的,到现在日本都还期望日本法西斯主义死灰复燃,如果到了日本纳粹复活的那一天,我们会让日本血债血偿

  • @PeacePetal
    @PeacePetal Рік тому +88

    One bit that I think could be highlighted more was Soviet material support to China. For a while there the USSR was pretty much the only country who was still willing to back China's seemingly hopeless situation.

    • @Frank-qy4rg
      @Frank-qy4rg Рік тому +20

      Apart from the flying tigers, soviet also sent their volunteer group from Soviet air force, yet their stories are not as popular as the flying tigers in China as well.

    • @lolasdm6959
      @lolasdm6959 Рік тому +2

      @@Frank-qy4rg Yeah the government pulls out the flying tigers whenever they need the population to like the Americans again.

    • @felixkepler6871
      @felixkepler6871 Рік тому +5

      Also they sent materials for both the nationalists and communists

    • @りんごT-i3t
      @りんごT-i3t Рік тому +12

      If China was occupied by Japan, the Soviet Union faced a huge threat from Japan, especially in the Far East. The Soviet Union supported China out of its own national interests. However, the Soviet Union occupied more than 1.6 million square kilometers of China and supported the independence of Outer Mongolia.

    • @tenshihinanawi1885
      @tenshihinanawi1885 Рік тому +4

      ​​@@felixkepler6871 Mainly to KMT instead of CCP, the Soviet had long relationship with KMT since the China's Warlord period. KMT aren't able to defeat the other warlords without the Soviet's huge support on weapons and equipment and money. For CCP, is totally different situation. One can even say that the Soviet even treat the warlord Shen shicai in Xinjiang better than CCP.

  • @sidogga1234
    @sidogga1234 Рік тому +40

    I’m a Chinese-Vietnamese American. My grandfather was born in the 30’s and left China in 1949 during the end of the Chinese Civil War. Those times were very poor and hard but it wasn’t so long ago.

    • @becritical7476
      @becritical7476 Рік тому

      No, the Chinese civil war is not over until the reunification with Taiwan island according to Chinese' perspective

  • @chowder7256
    @chowder7256 Рік тому +34

    11:04 I heard a story from “The Hump” where an aircraft crew transporting supplies across the mountains was transporting a piano meant for Chiang’s wife. They threw it out of the plane over the mountains.

    • @lolasdm6959
      @lolasdm6959 Рік тому +8

      Based, she can live without a imported piano.

    • @wafl423
      @wafl423 Рік тому +1

      she was the more competent part of their marriage

    • @rayray6490
      @rayray6490 Рік тому +1

      @@wafl423 she was only useful diplomatically.

    • @dsong2006
      @dsong2006 Рік тому

      that just goes to show the level of corruption that is endemic in the KMT gov., its rotten from the core from top to bottom

    • @fargr5926
      @fargr5926 10 місяців тому

      Totally false.
      Stilwell once transported a cargo of sports shoes for the Chinese army.
      Largely what can be shipped into China was decided by USA and British. They sure could find a piano in China, what scarce was gasoline.

  • @Flomply
    @Flomply Рік тому +63

    Masterpiece as always, Grif and the team coming in clutch today

  • @landonli3rd
    @landonli3rd Рік тому +11

    You are one of my favorite history channels, you should do a video on the Chinese Civil War. It seems no one has a desire to cover it, I think you would be breaking major ground by providing your education on such a consequential conflict.

  • @oliversherman2414
    @oliversherman2414 Рік тому +128

    I think it's a shame that China's such an overlooked part of WW2. The loss of life in the Chibese theatre was equal to that of the Eastern front and the atrocities were also just as, if not more brutal

    • @cheungchingtong
      @cheungchingtong 10 місяців тому +3

      The whole system of this world now is still running by the G7, nothing bad for them would be shown to the world. Sad.

    • @oliversherman2414
      @oliversherman2414 10 місяців тому +1

      @@cheungchingtong Yeah. Everyone talks about the Nazis and their atrocities, but nobody pays any attention to the Japanese war crimes

    • @russiankodiak6849
      @russiankodiak6849 5 місяців тому

      So many countries involvement are just overlooked in general, people are forgetting history. I didn’t even know what Australias involment in WW2 was only up until a few months ago, which is turned out they fought in various theaters, such as defending Greece in the Mediterranean, fighting in Africa, and even fighting in the Pacific. Italian involvement is overlooked aswell, so is China

    • @tantank
      @tantank 4 місяці тому

      ​@@russiankodiak6849 Obviously, Australia would be involved, it was a colony back then. Other UK colonies were involved, too (India, Canada, the African colonies, etc.)
      Don't rely on school to teach all of history because we don't have time for all of that in there.

  • @chuck11duck64
    @chuck11duck64 Рік тому +49

    I would love to see you do some videos on the lesser known battles of WW2. Like the battle of Buron or Orsha. I just feel like there’s so much spotlight on the US and Western Front, the Eastern Front and commonwealth countries get overlooked.
    If anyone has a video or stuff on these I’d love it if you shared! I’ve got the Bloody Buron book, but that’s about all I can find

    • @eannamcnamara9338
      @eannamcnamara9338 Рік тому +2

      Burma or Alaska are probably the least covered

    • @bigredwolf6
      @bigredwolf6 Рік тому +1

      It makes sense depending where you live. If you’re an American, you basically have American UA-cam with mainly American content creators. It’s an algorithm thing from my understanding.
      Much like Netflix. American IP address gets you mostly American Netflix. German IP address gets you mostly German Netflix. (It was hilarious watching anime in German)

    • @chuck11duck64
      @chuck11duck64 Рік тому

      @@eannamcnamara9338 right??? I feel like Burma was pretty important

    • @chuck11duck64
      @chuck11duck64 Рік тому

      @@bigredwolf6 that’s funny cause I noticed that a few years ago but I just thought it was a fluke. Thanks man!

  • @The_Fishy_Fish
    @The_Fishy_Fish Рік тому +20

    Learning about the Second Sino-Japanese war inspired me to try and learn Mandarin. I hope some day to be able to read primary sources, what ever may exist of them. Good work on this, a forgotten front and a forgotten ally.

    • @svchwsvchw
      @svchwsvchw Рік тому +2

      I’m sure there are plethora of primary sources written in Chinese in museums, libraries, and memorials on both sides of the Taiwan Straight.

  • @Hans69420
    @Hans69420 Рік тому +51

    Great video as always I have always wanted to see World War II from a Chinese perspective

  • @fumingyang1846
    @fumingyang1846 Рік тому +22

    Thanks for talking about this theatre of WW2. Many in the West don't even know about this theatre, and it is often overlooked in textbooks, often appearing as a footnote.

  • @VanMiddeConcrete
    @VanMiddeConcrete Рік тому +21

    Really glad you opted to cover this stage of the war! And the recent Chinese film “The 800” is a very well done depiction of the battle of Shanghai. Highly recommend.

  • @TechieWidget
    @TechieWidget Рік тому +71

    Thank you for finally covering the Chinese perspective and mentioning the notorious corruption and embezzlement that the Kuomintang was involved in when they had control of Mainland China. My family used to have ties with Kuomintang, going back to the time when they were part of Tongmenhui in overthrowing the Qing. It was until 1946 when my great-grandpa had enough of Kuomintang upperclassmen embezzling foreign aid (esp food) and had him and his family fled to Southeast Asia to escape persecution after exposing their embezzlement in newspapers via his friend.

    • @clownpendotfart
      @clownpendotfart Рік тому

      Where in southeast asia did he flee to?

    • @nothingtoseeexceptwaifus
      @nothingtoseeexceptwaifus Рік тому +13

      @@clownpendotfart Singapore or Malaysia would most likely be the location, given how populated Chinese are at there.
      But maybe countries like Vietnam and Burma given how close they're to China's Mainland

    • @HWDragonborn
      @HWDragonborn Рік тому +13

      Your great grandpa made a wise choice escaping to Southeast Asia. If your family stayed in China, they would have being prosecuted during the Anti-Rightist Campaign or Cultural Revolution due to their former ties to KMT.

    • @jink1768
      @jink1768 Рік тому +7

      I think one thing a lot of people in the west don’t realize is that neither the KMT or CCP had the moral high ground and both group committed atrocities. Only difference is CCP came out on top in the end.
      Ultimately it was the average citizen that suffered as a result. My families weren’t KMT supporters nor CCP revolutionary they were a small family of merchants that were caught in the crossfire.
      My family was apparently too rich for the CCP during the purge but they weren’t well off enough to escape the country at the time and most of my family’s clan was wiped out. I was told those that those of my family survived became wandering beggers before finally taken refuge with a community of Hui people and weren’t even allowed to enter large cities until Deng Xiao Ping became chairmen in the 1980s. My family manage to make a living in the mainland until we had to run due to allegations of treason and charges of corruption. I was young at the time but my understanding was someone influential in the province I was from had issues with my family business and when we refused to pay “protection fee” to the local gang and suddenly we were charged with allegation of treason. We were under house arrest and my family eventually “sold” their business to the person and we were released from house arrest. We didn’t take any chance and fled for the U.S immediately fearing they will come after us again with nothing but what little saving we had left.
      Years later we found out from another family who fled to the U.S that this was a common tactic by corrupted official. Had we not sold our business we would have most likely been executed or imprisoned and our assets would have been taken by the government regardless.

    • @TechieWidget
      @TechieWidget Рік тому +3

      @@HWDragonborn Definitely, he would most likely be made a target during Cultural Revolution because of his educational background (he studied law in Fudan University) and former ties with KMT. If he never exposed embezzlement of food foreign aid by KMT in Amoy, he may have stayed on mainland China or fled to Taiwan or Hong Kong.

  • @zumoshiri2157
    @zumoshiri2157 Рік тому +10

    The most devestating period of WW2 is the most overlooked. Glad your giving them recognition

  • @YangLiu-fx9yn
    @YangLiu-fx9yn Рік тому +40

    My Great Uncle, Shanghainese, born in 1922, was a hero during Sino-Japanese war. But not just a hero but a lifetime tragedy.
    When he was young, my great uncle learned martial arts in Shaolin Temple and before the war join the ROC Army as a guard, stationed in Shanghai. He has a photo with other guard and ROC President Chiang Kai-shek at his age of 15.
    When Shanghai was broken by Japanese Army, he followed the guard regiment to Chongqing and then joined China intelligence Bureau for his shooting skill and martial arts. He was later assigned to assassinate Japanese officers and Chinese traitors in Shanghai. After successful killing 7 targets with his special action teammates in Shanghai once he got injured on his leg and almost captured. Fortunately, he finally fled from Shanghai to Hong Kong, though most of his teammates died from the last assassin.
    From Hong Kong he back to Xi Feng, Guizhou Province, to build with Americans the Sino-American Special Technical Cooperative Organization (SASTCO) 3rd branch. As his one disabled leg, he can't go kill Japanese officers anymore. Later he served as a lieutenant colonel instructor in 3rd Branch, to train more Chinese agents with other American instructors, and send bunches of young soldiers to the occupied cities for special missions. In 1949, he was stationed in Hong Kong as a military agent, waiting for new mission from Taiwan Authority.
    In around 50’s he and his team were captured once entering mainland. Almost all his followers were sentenced to death. However, one high rank CCP intelligent officer knew my great uncle as they might have some connection or cooperation action during WW2 in Shanghai. The officer proved my great uncle never killed any CCP but only Japanese, and get wounded during 40’s. So, he was sentenced to life imprisonment from 50’s.
    After Nixon’s visit in China, he was freed from prison in 80’s. But his wife died for years and now his son and daughter didn’t accept this father for the long years’ political persecution and no-responsibility to the family. So, he lived alone in Suzhou in a small rent room until 1993 he was taken to live with my grandfather, his brother.
    He taught me some martial art, but I was not talented on that. He bought me chocolate and always smile to me peacefully. Yes, his eyes are always that peaceful, no regret, no pain even through the death battlefield, 30 years prison, 10 years lonely life.
    He passed away one day around year 2000, with only a few relatives (my grandfather died in 1999 ahead of him). His son didn’t attend the funeral in the end and wouldn’t accept his tomb close with his wife’s.
    20 years passed, I always remember his smiling and peaceful eyes, feed me with chocolate. At that moment, he might recall his son’s childhood at the sight of me. By the way, his name is Qian Jie.

    • @JR5745
      @JR5745 Рік тому +8

      Wow. I wonder how many ROC men like your great uncle never get to tell their stories throughout history.

    • @kianvandenberg6364
      @kianvandenberg6364 Рік тому +3

      Condolences, it’s a shame how heroes like him get screwed by evil governments, is there anyway you could share his picture with Chiang Kai-Shek?

    • @YangLiu-fx9yn
      @YangLiu-fx9yn Рік тому +6

      @@kianvandenberg6364 Thanks. I don't think so. The photo is dangerous to the family, so it must be taken away or hidden in some place.

    • @YangLiu-fx9yn
      @YangLiu-fx9yn Рік тому +4

      @@JR5745 Millions I think. When in childhood in 1985-1995, we often found some neighbor or classmate family are ROC's. But we avoided talking deep even inside family.

    • @kianvandenberg6364
      @kianvandenberg6364 Рік тому

      @@YangLiu-fx9yn I understand, good luck

  • @berlin_actual
    @berlin_actual Рік тому +13

    I'm very glad someone is finally covering the Second Sino Japanese war. This theatre is so rarely covered, yet so many men had died just to protect their land. It truly is astounding.

  • @jasonlee148
    @jasonlee148 Рік тому +211

    Even till today
    Germany: "we are sorry for starting the war. Aplogies to the world"
    Japan: "we are sorry for losing the war. Apologies to the japanese people who didnt benefit from it."

    • @BruhTNT4258
      @BruhTNT4258 Рік тому +55

      Basically
      Germany: we remember, we are sorry.
      Japan: we are sorry, we don’t remember.

    • @shanzhao-v6v
      @shanzhao-v6v 4 місяці тому +25

      Yes, I just saw that the Japanese regretted that they were well equipped and lost the war. They never felt guilty and reflected on their cruel behavior.

    • @user-dd7qe3od9k
      @user-dd7qe3od9k 4 місяці тому +1

      原爆を投下したアメリカはなんの罪にも問われなかった、日本の罪は唯一負けたことだ。

    • @Astral_venus
      @Astral_venus 3 місяці тому +3

      Most of them thought their ruler was a god and had a sense of nationalism which probably led to this

    • @雷鸣鸟
      @雷鸣鸟 2 місяці тому

      @@Astral_venus The Japanese army also has genocidal tendencies. China has a lot of relevant information, including many notebooks of Japanese soldiers and officers. I once searched and read them. In the diaries about the Nanjing Massacre, the word they used was "purification." The officer told them that Chinese people were just like pigs, and the elderly and women were also included in the purification scope and needed to be killed.

  • @codyshi4743
    @codyshi4743 Рік тому +13

    Thank you Armchair Historians, for making another great video about China during WW2.
    China’s role (both the KMT & the CPC) in WW2, shouldn’t be forgotten and deserved more attention.
    Hate it how everyone always remembers Japan as a members of the Axis, and forget to mention’s Japan’s long term enemy of WW2 and a member of the allied power; China. Most Americans and other allied members only mention themselves as the one who’s been fighting Japan in WW2, and forgets to mention that China has been fighting Japan way before them.

  • @captainlocks394
    @captainlocks394 Рік тому +48

    Finally for the world to see the truth in the Chinese theater it's really quite underated

    • @russiankodiak6849
      @russiankodiak6849 5 місяців тому

      Not just Chinese, WW2 in general. No one seems to know anything about WW1. People need to talk more about the Mediterranean, African, and Pacific theaters. We don’t ever hear anything about the French, Chinese, New Zealanders, Australians, Greeks, or even the Italians. They need more awareness of their involvement

  • @kurtcobain3720
    @kurtcobain3720 Рік тому +53

    Love this video, keep up the great work. Could you guys do a video on the Russian Civil War?

  • @Numba003
    @Numba003 Рік тому +21

    As an American, I would very much like to learn more about modern Chinese history. I feel like most of my school-learning on China focused on ancient history. Thank you for another informative video.
    God be with you out there everybody! ✝️ :)

    • @Supersonicspyro
      @Supersonicspyro Рік тому +1

      Modern Chinese history is a bit more controversial lolol

    • @sandwich5344
      @sandwich5344 Рік тому

      unfortunately, modern china is powered by corruption and a rather contriversial form of "soft power" in order to undermine the truth about what actually goes on behind closed, marxist doors rather difficult.
      However - a few key points and main events are:
      - forced labour "re-education" camps, WWII style
      - organ harvesting, the likes of dystopian novels
      - forced steralisation, one way to wipe out religious & ethnic minorites
      - covering up global threats cause "if i warn the government about X, they'll accuse me of X"

    • @forrestZH
      @forrestZH Рік тому +2

      Thank you for your interest in Chinese history. China's modern history begins with the Qing dynasty, specifically see the beginning of China's battle to resist the British dumping of opium into China in 1840. China has experienced semi-colonial and semi-royal rule ever since. After the overthrow of the Qing Dynasty in 1911, China entered a phase of warlord rule and Kuomintang (KMT) rule, with the Civil War and Japanese invasion of China occurring at the same time. The Communist Party of China (CPC) was founded in 1921, and after the Sino-Japanese War ended in 1945, the CPC and the KMT began a civil war of more than 3 years, which culminated in the departure of the KMT from the mainland to Taiwan. And China, after 1949, has been seeking strategic autonomy independence and balance among different forces such as the Soviet Union and the United States.

    • @ryana5435
      @ryana5435 2 місяці тому

      Because Murica “re-educated” Japan after WWII and gained a lot of benefits from that and since then. Now Japan is Murica’s ally. Murica controlled the majority of western literacy world and media. So that’s why.

  • @Young_Baller7
    @Young_Baller7 Рік тому +128

    The Second Sino-Japanese War was a war that is really overlooked in history. It was a war that was part of the Second World War. The stories told from my family during the war was extremely sad and difficult to listen to. Around millions of Chinese people United and fought the Japanese even though they were much more superior in military. 20 million Chinese people died from this war. The Japanese were extremely brutal and inhumane to the Chinese people. Respect to the Chinese who fought and sacrificed for their country.

  • @Y665tt
    @Y665tt Рік тому +238

    Hope to see more videos about china! Rest in peace to those who suffered from the japanese.

    • @lilmike2710
      @lilmike2710 Рік тому

      "Imperial" Japanese. A very important distinction.
      A cabal of evil men had wormed their way into the upper ranks of the imperial Japanese military. And unfortunately they had the Emperors ear. They basically brainwashed him with militant propaganda and lies.
      That whole part of history is a very deep rabbit hole with many tunnels. And quite interesting.

  • @isaaccerrato1528
    @isaaccerrato1528 Рік тому +1

    Man, the quality of your videos is something of another world... I've just recently found this channel and it's pure gold.

  • @BHuang92
    @BHuang92 Рік тому +413

    As a Chinese-American, WW2 was only half of the brutality that China faced in the 20th century. We as the people survived such hardships and its not quite a happy ending.

    • @NotAnAlex_Guy
      @NotAnAlex_Guy Рік тому +39

      As a Anglo-Chinese, I agree with this statement.

    • @Young_Baller7
      @Young_Baller7 Рік тому +55

      I agree. Our people have suffered through brutal warfare and famine in our country and in our history. Given the bad tensions going on, we can hope that both the US and China will not go to war so our people can suffer less and we may live a peaceful life

    • @wisdomleader85
      @wisdomleader85 Рік тому

      Ironically the Stalin-backed communists were actually worse than the Japanese, lol.

    • @martinromerostrack9138
      @martinromerostrack9138 Рік тому +5

      ​​@@Young_Baller7sadly , history has shown us that these situations usually end in blood. We can only hope for the best, and i hope nothing bad happens

    • @AndersB-p6w
      @AndersB-p6w Рік тому

      Haha what about Taiwan fckn rice cooker

  • @Frank-qy4rg
    @Frank-qy4rg Рік тому +81

    As a Chinese myself, I am very glad to see this video with such quality. I am glad to see how you talked about the war crime made by IJA and the fight between Chiang Kai Shek and CCP under the table and what did Chiang do wrong to lose the civil war in the future, as I still often see some people are saying it was the CCP who did not fight with the Japanese and that's how they lost the civil war. (Which I think that is totally not the facts or that just a tiny part of the story.)
    There is actually more to talk about:
    1, The Japan invasion of Jehol Province end up a DMZ between China and Japan, while Japan had significant influences over there. It actually act as way of how the Japanese goods, like yarn, to avoid the import duty from Chinese customs. Imagine what will happen for a industrial country keep selling goods without being charged any duties on it. Also, Japanese companies managed to obtain some local factories with little cost in Jehol Province after that as well.
    2, The Marco polo bridge incident broke out on the 7th of July, 1937. It was until 2 weeks later when IJA launched an attack on Peking as it was an incident made by a few lower rank officers(Mutaguchi Renya and Kiyonao Ichiki) who seem it as an opportunity to be promoted, like 1931. The Japanese authority saw it as an opportunity to occupy Huabei Region. Peking and Tianjin was under another Chinese warlord control, and he did not see this as a full scale invasion as this kind of incident happened many times before, and it often ended up with compensations and Japanese took control over some land around Peking.( And left Marco Polo Bridge the last route to connect Peking with the rest of China that is still under Chinese forces control by 1937.)
    Mutaguchi Renya organised a failed operation, Battle of Imphal, leading to death of lots of their own due to lack of supply, but he managed to survive after the war. Ichiki died in Guadalcanal with that "famous assault" Battle of the Tenaru.
    3, At the start of Battle of Shanghai in August 1937, Japanese authority believed this Incident would be ended within three months, as emperor asked in the meeting when will this finished? The army chief of staff said he believed this incident would be ended within a month. The emperor apparently did not believed that and asked what if it did not end within a month. Another officer, who is a member of royal family said a month is a bit overexaggerated, he believed it this incident can be solved within three months.
    And in fact, Chiang was planned to agree on Trautmann mediation later by the mid of December 1937, so the estimation was correct until the Japanese authority announced the they will not see Chiang as the leader of China anymore and they were looking forward to negotiate with another pro-Japanese Chinese leader on mid January 1938. This make peace between China and Japan no longer possible.
    4, Apart from Trautmann mediation, there were two more peace negotiation between Chiang and Japanese authority before December 1941. Apparently, none of them end with a peace deal. And those deal were pretty harsh. Including but not limited to: admit the division of Manchuria, more compensation, allowing IJA to retreat from China when they wanted to, Against CCP not the Japanese.
    5, Not sure whether this has been mentioned before or not, the Battle of Shanghai was started with surrounding Japanese settlement in Shanghai by Chinese forces as a lesson learned from 1932 battle of Shanghai. After 1932, Chinese Army are not allowed to stay in Shanghai, but Chiang managed to disguised them as military police and placed them outside of Shanghai DMZ. He decided to take Japanese settlement before the Japanese Marine Corps starts to attack them( as a lesson learned from 1932). However, the HQ of Japanese Marine Corps was designed with the ability to become a fort when needed. And Chinese force was lack of heavy artilleries and no air superiority. Both Chiang and Japanese started to bring more force to Shanghai.
    6, Apart from the flood, there were other man-made disaster like 1938 Changsha fire, which shows KMT was lack of organisation and corruption in there.
    7, Japanese occupation the ports and major cities of China that attempt to cut the supply route of China damaged other foreign powers' business, and I personally still believed it was the occupation of Southern Indochina lead to the embargo and the lost of business in China lead to the loans rather than what IJA did in China. At one degree, Roosevelt was about to agree with Japanese that the US will admit the Manchuria and leave Japanese alone as far as they promised not to allied with Germany and they will not occupy British and Dutch colonies.
    8, The Burma Road was not exist before. Due Japanese occupied most of ports by the end of 1937, the Chinese authority started to build this road at the beginning of 1938 and because of lack of heavy engineering equipment, local authorities gathered more than 200 thousand people from locals, old people, children and women mainly, to build this road from mountains to mountains.
    9, Chinese army was not always go well when it came to 1944. With the loses in vassals for Japanese, Japan need to connect South East Asia under its control with Manchuria, so they can bring resources by train rather than vassals. Japanese army launched Operation Ichi-Go at the end of 1944. It ended up with success for Japanese side, and of course, that means great lost on Chinese side(500,000-600,000 casualties according to wiki).
    Overall, this is definitely a great video, I just want to say China did a lot on against the invasion from Imperial Japan, not just lost more that 10 million of its own people, but also this war allowing the ally to focus on the Europe and managed to forced Japan put millions of people in China in order to maintain its occupation. And eventually led to Japan's decision to attack Pearl Harbour that really changed everything.
    I am also a bit surprised when it said the war started 8 years earlier than 1939. (That is 14 years in total.) As before, many would say it was eight years and it wasn't until decades ago that we start to say we fought for full 14 years. And glad to see you mentioned Japanese war crime, despite there are more to say.(Like Three Alls Policy, using of chemical weapons and notorious Unit 731. I really hope many of you can learn about those in the future.)

    • @porksterbob
      @porksterbob Рік тому +8

      The CCP really didn't fight the Japanese after the 100 regiments offensive in 1940.
      It was actually explicit policy to avoid antagonizing the Japanese and focus on expanding base areas in the countryside.

    • @lolasdm6959
      @lolasdm6959 Рік тому

      @@porksterbob No the CCP was restricted to smaller operations instead of large full on operations like the 100 regiment offensive.
      The CCP bases in northern China were almost completely destoryed following the Japanese counter offensive post 100 regiment offensive.
      Peng suggested the operation to Mao, Mao accessed correctly that should the Japanese counter attack, the existence of the CCP armed forces would be jeperdized.
      All the cringe westerners after reading some pro KMT propaganda apperently believed the CCP was capable of fighting the Japanese head on at this time in the war. This is complete BS, the CCP were at the mercy of the Japanese, the CCP's existence behind Japanese lines kept significant Japanese and Chinese collborator troops back as garrison, but they weren't enough wipe out the CCP. Draw too much attention, Japanese will pull back from the frontline and they be all dead.
      Therefore Mao correctly instructed the CCP to operate as logistic disruption, as well as infiltrating collaborators. And to launch large scale disruptions in the logistic network anytime the Japanese tried to launch large offensives against the KMT.
      Both KMT and CCP were conserving forces tor the final showdown post Japanese defeat.

    • @porksterbob
      @porksterbob Рік тому +9

      @@lolasdm6959 you're pretending the entire 1949 to 1990 period didn't exist. This was when the CCP pretended that they did the lions share of the fighting and the kmt didn't.
      The CCP could have made Japan's life very difficult during ichigo. They had a million troops in 1944.
      They purposely decided not to as they saw it as the best way to defeat the KMT.
      Mao was executing the best strategy for the CCP. It wasn't the best strategy for China though.

    • @lolasdm6959
      @lolasdm6959 Рік тому +13

      @@porksterbob A million troops in 1944? You are tripping. CCP only had enough weapons to equip 1 million men after the Soviets handed the Manchurian Japanese arsenal to the CCP.
      Mao was trying to not die, he moves something big once during operation Ichigo his dead, and all the men under his command. Mao correctly waited for the Japanese to vacate themselves from northern China during Ichigo, and then launched attack all across North China, the collaborators pretty much didn't give up a fight once the Japanese went south. Reclaiming vast amounts of terrtory with his tiny army and suffering basically no losses, and cutting off the Japanese from their supply depots in the north. You are free to provide an alternative strategy that can have a better result. Trust me you can't, Mao isn't stupid, his the best strategist ever to take helm in China in the last couple hundred years.
      Chiang was conserving his strength as well, it's just his troops had nowhere to hide when the Japs come knocking. Something bound to happen when you have 40 armies under your command compared to 2 heavily understrengthed armies under Mao.
      As for CCP claiming lion's share of effort in the war of resistance, that is plain wrong. I had read the history book in China, it constantly focuses on the failings of KMT but nowhere did it claim CCP was responsible for most of it. In fact it even teaches that Mao accepted leadership under Chiang. You are free to take out a real source and refute me. It also teaches the Chiang speech where he said that no further conccessions can be made to the Japanese.

    • @porksterbob
      @porksterbob Рік тому +6

      @@lolasdm6959 the new fourth army and the 8th route army were massive by 1944.
      The handover if Japanese equipment by the Soviets would put them up to 1.5 million by the start of the civil war.
      A typical Chinese army was some 5-10 divisions I.e. a little over 100,000 troops at best.
      Both the communist armies had grown to be several hundred thousand each by 1944.
      Mao was a brilliant strategist. But he was a brilliant strategist for Mao and the CCP, not for China.
      The CCP could have done a lot more to make ichigo difficult, but they didn't because it would help win them the civil war.
      This was definitely the right call vis a vis defeating the KMT. However, if was not the right call if the goal was defeating Japan and/or protecting the Chinese populace.
      Here is what a better result is...
      Mao is a bit more aggressive in the summer of 1944. He attacks more Japanese forces directly. He doesn't do full death or glory attacks that wipe out the red army, but enough to make the Japanese keep more troops in the north.
      With less troops, maybe the Japanese don't win fourth Changsha, maybe they don't win the battle of hengyang. Essentially, ichigo becomes less successful. Lots of South China stays unoccupied.
      That would have been a better result ... For China and Chinese people.

  • @MrSherloc
    @MrSherloc Рік тому +9

    I glad you have covered this topic as often or not, most schools & history books failed to cover this theater from the Chinese perspective, only covering the USA & Soviet Union perspective.
    I would like to see WW2 from either the Vietnamese, Cambodian, Burmese & Singaporean perspective.

  • @GerMFnU1848Sax
    @GerMFnU1848Sax Рік тому +32

    My eternal respect to the Chinese from USA. We could not have defeated the Japanese without China

    • @clownpendotfart
      @clownpendotfart Рік тому +3

      Disagree. The US had so much more industrial power that the Japanese themselves knew they had no hope of winning a long war. They were entirely banking on the US giving up after early defeats made fighting seem costly, which wasn't going to happen after Pearl Harbor pissed the US off and our early victories (like Midway) made the Japanese seem quite defeatable even while Germany remained the priority.

    • @Huben57
      @Huben57 Рік тому +20

      @@clownpendotfart The Japanese would attack the soviet union if their army wasn't drawn away to china. Many of Japan's best of the Kwantung army was drawn away in china. so the soviets wouldn't have to worry about their eastern flank

    • @clownpendotfart
      @clownpendotfart Рік тому

      @@Huben57 The Japanese abandoned the northern plan of attack against the Soviet Union after Khalkhin Gol.

    • @Huben57
      @Huben57 Рік тому +10

      @@clownpendotfart its exactly because their kwantung army was weakened greatly since their best units were sent to china

    • @GerMFnU1848Sax
      @GerMFnU1848Sax Рік тому +11

      @@clownpendotfart it's my respect to them. Also, the bulk of Japanese man power was focused in China

  • @nigelvestrand4252
    @nigelvestrand4252 Рік тому +17

    I would love to see him do either a perspective on the Philippines, Brazil or Mexico as they are mostly forgotten.

    • @tantank
      @tantank 4 місяці тому

      Filipino here, no need, we got blitzkrieg'd (most of SEA countries were). The Philippines wasn't even a country back then.

  • @stupidnobody4713
    @stupidnobody4713 Рік тому +7

    As a Chinese I am happy that you talked about our perspective, since it is rarely in any books I find.

  • @Mindi0-0
    @Mindi0-0 Рік тому +34

    Absolutely glad China is getting a history lesson, I heard of nankin and was horrified and saddened by the event, to this day I don’t know how anyone any human can commit or think about doing what they did and continuing throughout the war it really shows how humans are when given complete control and freedom to do whatever they want

    • @TechieWidget
      @TechieWidget Рік тому

      What makes it even more sad is that it could have been preventable but it happened due to Japanese military generals’ incompetence with disciplining their officers and sub-commanders, and getting them to follow their orders. A lot of officers and sub-commanders often go against their generals’ orders because of factionalism, their egos or conflicting ideals. This issue never got resolved and later on lead to Manila massacre in 1945.

    • @gustavvondaun4375
      @gustavvondaun4375 Рік тому +1

      Well the japanese were far from humans, to call them savages is lenient

    • @黄捷-r2g
      @黄捷-r2g 10 місяців тому

      Japanese soldiers were deeply influenced by militarism and fascism, and they believed in the theory of racial superiority, just like Nazi Germany, which led them to not believe that Chinese people were humans but animals that they could freely kill.

  • @joeywheelerii9136
    @joeywheelerii9136 Рік тому +25

    If you ever do your versus series again American Paratroopers vs Japanese ones would be cool.

    • @bigredwolf6
      @bigredwolf6 Рік тому +4

      I was not aware Japan had paratroopers. Ya learn something new everyday

    • @Matanza4897
      @Matanza4897 Рік тому +4

      ​@@bigredwolf6 they had, they were called Teishin Sudan, and they had a lot of activity between 1942 and 1943 during the Philippine campaign...

  • @yoyohighness
    @yoyohighness Рік тому +2

    this is one of the best English documentary on Sino-Japanese war, and I must praise the production team as the animations of equipment, uniforms are historically correct. Someone has done a lot of homework before the making of this doc., very well done

  • @WatchPoliceBodycam
    @WatchPoliceBodycam Рік тому +12

    Obsessed with these history videos- you inspired me to also make animated history videos!
    Make more Ancient Greece videos!

  • @Bullet-Tooth-Tony-
    @Bullet-Tooth-Tony- Рік тому +20

    The brave Chinese kept over 4 million Japanese soldiers tied down. It was the Eastern Front of Asia.

    • @snowade
      @snowade Рік тому +1

      Totally. This was what i was trying to say.

  • @winterrain6781
    @winterrain6781 8 днів тому

    Thanks for telling the story of China during WW2. My grandpa was a high ranking officer in the People's Liberation Army, until he retired sometime around the 60s or 70s, due to no promotion for 10 years. He and his two brothers joined the PLA to fight the Japanese, mainly because they were poor. As my grandpa passed before I was born, I got all this information from my father. My grandpa quickly rose the ranks because his superiors kept on dying. I don't know what he did during the war, but I know he did have a bullet inside his shoulder which wasn't removed. One of his brother was killed during the war and the other had PTSD and wasn't the same. After the war, he was the commander in Zuhai and settled down. My father still talk to the descendents of the soldiers who followed my grandpa.

  • @HaruNAJX
    @HaruNAJX Рік тому +28

    It is always a good day when The Armchair Historian uploads. Happy Mothers Day everyone!

  • @peaceleague6514
    @peaceleague6514 Рік тому +89

    Thank you for your detailed video explaining the Sino-Japanese war. The atrocities done to the Chinese people cannot be covered even 1% in this 20-minute video. For example, Unit 731 is the most brutal and inhumane crime in modern history. The Japanese beasts unethically conducted the cruelest experiments on Chinese civilians. Women, children and even infants were subjected to gas experiments, vivisection, frostbite experiments, human and horse blood exchange, human and animal hybridization, human limbs exchange etc. And the USA let the ringleaders escaped without any trial in return for experimental data.

    • @猫猫-l8x
      @猫猫-l8x Рік тому +2

      江山异域,不共戴天

    • @sandwich5344
      @sandwich5344 Рік тому

      and so too - can't the atrocities done by the chinese government be covered even 1% by more than decades worth of research and intelligence

    • @untilcrazy
      @untilcrazy Рік тому

      @peaceleague6514 thats why the US and Japan are on such good terms today. They are similar breeds.

    • @kokumotu0909
      @kokumotu0909 Рік тому +3

      But in Tibet you guys do those same things, right?😂

    • @untilcrazy
      @untilcrazy Рік тому

      @@kokumotu0909 Tibet was another story of a totally different nature. The group of people who cried the loudest were the landlords. But there was social inequalities within the Tibetan societies - slaves. This aspect the West did not mention much, because Tibet was a tool of the West' rhetoric, of course it would not talk about the social inequalities in Tibet, just like the West now wants to use India to handle China, it will not talk about the caste system still has influence in Indian societies, the Muslims were attacked by the Hindus etc.
      And your country (if I judge correctly you're Japanese) has done the most appalling harm to humans. Not just about the past brutal killigs, nowadays you still want to pour Fukushima nuclear power plant water into the ocean to contaminate the marine lives? And you put on this laugh smiley?

  • @YoonJintae98
    @YoonJintae98 Рік тому +11

    This video is eye-opening and allows me to feel that we are more alike than different. Kudos to what China achieved today I just think I can let go of my dislikes of China and start to embrace them more. Respect from Canada.

  • @nepmagnum4299
    @nepmagnum4299 Рік тому +5

    I was looking for a channel quite like kento bento. It has been more than a year since he last uploaded some contents & i have finally found a best fitting alternative. This video gave me the same feeling. Your voice, narration skills& knowledge are admirable. It's not your gain as a subscriber in me but my gain as a quality content provider in you.

  • @dylangtech
    @dylangtech Рік тому +135

    Given the United States was directing the majority of their rage and firepower towards Japan, it's unfortunate how little it's thought of and talked about on the more populous East Coast here in the US. The events of World War II in the Indo-Pacific have far more relevance today than anything in Europe.

    • @bigredwolf6
      @bigredwolf6 Рік тому +16

      I disagree. We’re seeing WW2 weapons and tactics on the eastern edge of Europe. Again. Both situations are heavily influenced by WW2.

    • @TargetFinder72
      @TargetFinder72 Рік тому +14

      Disagree. WW2 forged a lot of the closest Allies we see today in the West. It's the reason for the formation of the European Union and the origin of a lot of the issues between Russia and the West. These issues are still at play today.
      The European theatre of WW2 is the main factor in the cold war which has been reignited recently

    • @lolasdm6959
      @lolasdm6959 Рік тому

      @@TargetFinder72 If you think Russia is a part of the new cold war you are pretty delusional, they are only very loosely economically aligned with China.

    • @theotherohlourdespadua1131
      @theotherohlourdespadua1131 Рік тому +6

      Why would the East Coast think of Japan more than Europe that is nearer to them? New York Harbor was invaded by Kriegsmarine subs in 1942, don't act like that it's something they must fear less than Japanese ships...

    • @BilalAhmad-ff3xq
      @BilalAhmad-ff3xq Рік тому

      Because fdr's foreign policy advisors were soviet spies trying to get the POTUS to make bad decisions. Which is why china was overlooked during ww2.
      (I'm serious look it up)

  • @stuka6082
    @stuka6082 Рік тому +2

    finaly been waiting for this video for months

  • @barbaragiardinidillon2399
    @barbaragiardinidillon2399 Рік тому +42

    Probably the less known invasions of WW2. Really put in prospect what China had to go through fighting the Japanese. I suggest you do a video on the 1st AVG, aka the "Flying Tigers", who defended the Burma Road and played a crucial role during the invasion. Overall great job and keep up the amazing work!

    • @lolasdm6959
      @lolasdm6959 Рік тому

      Flying Tigers were mercs, paid hefty salaries by the Chinese government.

  • @stevemc01
    @stevemc01 Рік тому +16

    US: "You need to supply your men."
    British: "You need to supply your men."
    CCP: "We need to supply our men."
    Kuomingtang: "I require more of the stupid juice."

  • @wj40014
    @wj40014 Рік тому +7

    thank you very much for this video! it provides a great perspective of the sino japanese war and its nice seeing western media talk about it more. in china, every 18th of septemebr, there are still air raid alarms.

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  • @totochi
    @totochi Рік тому +20

    Thank you for doing this video. The story of China in WWII is not often told but provides the context for the China/Taiwan conflict today. It is also the story of my dad's family. Originally from Ningbo, my dad was born in Chengdu as the Nationalists were retreating from the Japanese. I believe my grandfather was an accountant in the Nationalist Air Force and they ended up in Taiwan. I have many relatives in China today that I have never met.

    • @nanjiang1953
      @nanjiang1953 Рік тому +3

      China suffered disastrous amount of casualties and material destructions during the second Sino-Japanese war. The only meaningful gain from it was the return of Taiwan back to China. Do you think China can easily let it go?

    • @svchwsvchw
      @svchwsvchw Рік тому

      Thank you for your grandfather’s service to the country! Welcome to come visit your homeland.

    • @LiYunLong666
      @LiYunLong666 9 місяців тому

      感谢❤虽然未曾谋面,深受其恩

    • @Gu0xy
      @Gu0xy 4 місяці тому

      希望两岸和平❤

  • @donutsarecute5209
    @donutsarecute5209 Рік тому +5

    Hello Armchair Historian! I suggest that you look into the Philippine Perspective for WW2. It is overlooked in most textbooks. However, it is an interesting story and I think should be brought to light. Thank you.

  • @torarara_3
    @torarara_3 Рік тому +14

    It's really cool that you guys are now moving onto the pacific theatre of the war. I hope one day, y'all make a WW2 from the Philippine perspective. That country basically became a battle ground for 2 rivaling world powers at that time.

  • @whyareyoureadingmynickname8158

    Great video, although I was hoping that there would be more talk about Chinese collaborators (AKA Jingwei's regime, Manchukuo and Mengjiang). I always wondered if all of them had active roles in combat against regular Chinese troops, how were they viewed by Chinese and wondered about their legacy (since, from what I heard, some of collaborators remain polarizing figures to this day), but all information I managed to find about them was scarce and relatively brief.

    • @curtiswong7280
      @curtiswong7280 Рік тому +7

      Collaborators themselves were perceived negatively, but they usually didn't stay collaborators for long; among the soldiers within the puppet states like Manchukuo and the Reorganised RoC, defection rates were astronomically high. Japan also found it difficult to locate potential collaborator leaders as well; even many exiled warlords who had to flee to the concessions in Shanghai after Chiang Kai-Shek's Northern Expedition refused to join the Japanese, and so the collaborationist governments were usually filled with underqualified individuals far above their previous positions in government.
      Leaders of the collaborationist governments such as Wang Jingwei are seen today as Hanjian(race traitors) because of their role in the war, and are reviled in both the RoC and the PRC.

    • @rayray6490
      @rayray6490 Рік тому

      I read a article of a former child soldier of the puppet army at the time. The former puppet soldier said the puppet army consider themselves the “Peace Army” while the actual National army as the “Fighting Army”. One side keeps the peace in occupied territory while the other in Free China actively fights the invaders. Honestly it sounded like a coping mechanism for the puppet troops

  • @mahimainduwara643
    @mahimainduwara643 Рік тому +9

    Japan was so brutal that even the Nazis were worried. Even hardcore nazi's helped Chinese civilians escape.

    • @cocolll9040
      @cocolll9040 Рік тому

      都是为了国家利益而已。另外就是蒋介石自己就对德国纳粹那套情有独钟,照猫画虎地在国民党搞了个「军统」。他还自以为和希特勒是知心朋友。可惜希特勒对他没多大兴趣,即便援助也只是做做样子。

  • @HistoryUnforgotten
    @HistoryUnforgotten Рік тому +7

    The saddest part is that not only the Chinese soldiers dies, but civilians too, both children and women.
    And the fact that after the Chinese anti Japanese war ended, the civil war then resume and the Kuomintang government escape to the island, known as Taiwan. I honor all Chinese soldiers defending their nations and the families protecting their children and relatives from these Japanese fascism. I apologize for my bad English but…
    *GLORY TO REPUBLIC OF CHINA* 🇹🇼 🇹🇼🇹🇼🇹🇼🇹🇼

  • @montrelouisebohon-harris7023
    @montrelouisebohon-harris7023 6 місяців тому +3

    I'm American and as I grew up and took 11th grade history I realized that whatever the paper said didn't seem true to me and that World War II started with Japanese imperialism into China in 1931

    • @Huajierenmeiluziye
      @Huajierenmeiluziye 6 місяців тому +1

      The tragedy of China is that China was a country but not a country at the time, the Japanese saw an opportunity, and the Chinese resistance to Japan was not out of patriotism, but the land was left by their ancestors and could not be given to the Japanese for free。Japan was already an industrial power at that time, and the Chinese were still fighting with warlords at home with knives, so the Sino-Japanese war had a huge psychological damage for the Chinese people, and the two sides were not in the same era。

    • @tantank
      @tantank 4 місяці тому

      2 countries at war is not a WORLD war unless the 2 countries are the entire world. World war 2 began after France and the UK (with colonies literally around the globe) declared war on Germany and that's it. Japan was never in ww2 until pearl harbor and Germany declaring war on America. Before pearl harbor, it was the 2nd Sino-Japanese war

  • @talleywa5772
    @talleywa5772 Рік тому +10

    Japanese when seeing infants jn Nanjing: "These kills will bring us honor!"
    Japanese when seeing Hiroshima and Nagasaki get the big boom: "Was that really necessary 🥺🥺🥺🥺"

  • @mrsandwich6000
    @mrsandwich6000 Рік тому +3

    People tend to forget how quality this channel is

  • @neiljia2332
    @neiljia2332 Рік тому +10

    My mother was born in a little village from northern China where it was contested by Japanese and communist guerrillas. It’s impossible for our family to forgive what Japanese have done to our neighbors, friends, and families. Knowing this, you will understand modern day China a lot better.

  • @robertortiz-wilson1588
    @robertortiz-wilson1588 Рік тому +5

    The sheer amount of problems Chiang Kai-shek was continually forced to deal with was painfully absurd.

  • @patrickhaeusler
    @patrickhaeusler Рік тому +12

    Always great tto see things from alternative perspectives! Another topic that's somehow rarely discussed but might be very interesting would be "Crusades from the Muslim perspective". How much of an impact did the conquest of the Holy Land actually have to the Arab World? Was the Christian Invasion seen as an existential threat to Islam itself like e.g. the Ottoman Expansion was seen by Christianity? Or was it seen as "just" another conflict as the Middle East had already been a war-torn region before? And how much truth lies in the narrative of cruel Crusaders on the one side and a wise, just Sultan Saladin as their counterpart?

  • @tzar9395
    @tzar9395 Рік тому +3

    Thank you for releasing a video of the Chinese side of the war. It is humiliatingly seldom taught or mentioned by even historians. Yet it was one of the largest, most brutal, and horrifying fronts of the war. It almost seems like the Chinese are disregarded as humans in the conflict by many. The many millions of Chinese people who worked, fought, survived, and lost their lives should never be forgotten for their sacrifices and resistance in the war.

  • @georgelee7277
    @georgelee7277 Рік тому +2

    As a chinese, huge thanks for making this video. The sino-japanese war was one of the most brutal part of the ww2. My grand grandfather fought for the ccp and was killed in action against the japanese forces. Still I’m very proud that my fully divided, chaotic and poor country could somehow consolidate(not entirely as you can see)and fight against the common enemy.
    i’ve just visited nanjing’s massacre museum last month and it was fearful.Everybody remained silent watching the expositions.

  • @ThechefRontop
    @ThechefRontop Рік тому +30

    I would say that of the 3 major axis powers japan has answered the least for their crimes against humanity. Germany accepted and apoligised for their crimes. Italy doesn't shy from their history. Japan Pretends they never commited their crimes. My great uncle served in the british army and was captured by japan, his two fellow sergents were executed on the spot and most of his men were executed.

    • @whathell6t
      @whathell6t Рік тому +1

      @TPG Studios
      What about Tokusatsu, that Japanese medium?
      It’s the only place where the Japanese acknowledge their country’s war crimes and Unit 731.

    • @bigredwolf6
      @bigredwolf6 Рік тому

      We nuked them. Twice. Seems like an appropriate punishment to me.

    • @Tanubtanu
      @Tanubtanu Рік тому +3

      @@obvious-troll hardly anyone? there are still several "comfort woman" aka imperial japanese victim, they were assaulted about the age of 10 years old.

    • @joshuabonilla3491
      @joshuabonilla3491 Рік тому +4

      @@obvious-troll imagine if the Germans took the same stance, oh man not that many Jews from the holocaust left or victims of our occupation are alive let's never talk about our crimes again.😂

    • @ThechefRontop
      @ThechefRontop Рік тому +4

      @obvious troll Just to clarify I have nothing against the current nation of Japan it's a great country I intend to visit one day however my point was that overall Japan overall has not answered as much for their crimes as much as say germany dispite having commited more war crimes.

  • @williamtalbot5549
    @williamtalbot5549 Рік тому +7

    8:48 my man ran at a tank a blew up 💀

    • @徐奥美王
      @徐奥美王 2 дні тому

      In fact, reality is even more cruel than animation. Many children are forced to go to the battlefield, and in the situation of running out of ammunition and food, many of our soldiers choose to be tied up with hand grenades and die with Japanese fascists. They didn't even leave their names or descendants behind

    • @徐奥美王
      @徐奥美王 2 дні тому

      In fact, reality is even more cruel than animation. Many children are forced to go to the battlefield, and in the situation of running out of ammunition and food, many of our soldiers choose to be tied up with hand grenades and die with Japanese fascists. They didn't even leave their names or descendants behind

  • @listenerobserver7160
    @listenerobserver7160 Рік тому +1

    Really overlooked part of history in school. Nice video.

  • @jamesricker3997
    @jamesricker3997 Рік тому +3

    The War in China bankrupted Japan, that is the major reason why they expanded the War. The US oil embargo was a secondary reason.

  • @cannonball666
    @cannonball666 Рік тому +11

    The truth is that most of the fighting was done by the Kuomintang while the Maoist commies hid in the mountains.

    • @jeffrey2326
      @jeffrey2326 Рік тому

      True, but they still brag about their efforts in Resistance dramas

  • @danieln.1034
    @danieln.1034 Рік тому

    The music in this one is phenomenal. Added greatly to the narration

  • @anerfelitedart8273
    @anerfelitedart8273 Рік тому +3

    My great grand father was killed in the Japanese invasion of China, so it’s heartwarming to see a big channel like the Armchair Historian spreading information about the invasion.

  • @CincoYu
    @CincoYu Рік тому +3

    Really appreciated! WW2 From the Chinese Perspective? I am assuming you are talking about Republic of China. Indeed, it was the Republic of China (ROC) that fought against Japan. And ROC is now based in Taiwan and its islands. This is a fact that might not be widely known by many.

  • @ultimate-voyage
    @ultimate-voyage 7 місяців тому

    Thank you for creating this video on China's war of resistance. I previously developed two wargames, "War of the Suns" and "The Everlasting Glory," based on this topic. This conflict is challenging to grasp as it essentially involves a three-sided war, with outcomes significantly influenced by external events beyond the control of those fighting within China.

  • @Tanubtanu
    @Tanubtanu Рік тому +26

    This is really interesting topic to talk about, alot people see Kuouming tan leader Chiang Kai-shek as a angel due to the different between the mainland china and taiwan today. Even tho how corrupted it was during the late war which boost communist spread in China.

    • @clownpendotfart
      @clownpendotfart Рік тому +1

      I suppose the lesson is that there are far worse things than corruption.

    • @TechieWidget
      @TechieWidget Рік тому +2

      CKS was no angel, even before the Chinese Civil War. Most ppl don’t know that he had to be kidnapped by his own generals to make him form an alliance with Mao to fight the Japanese.

    • @clownpendotfart
      @clownpendotfart Рік тому

      @@TechieWidget Since Mao wound up taking over China after the US defeated Japan, CKS doesn't seem so irrational in retrospect!

    • @jassen1924
      @jassen1924 Рік тому

      Both were pretty ass but i think cks wouldve been better considering china wouldve probably turned into democraxy after his son become president

    • @NeostormXLMAX
      @NeostormXLMAX Рік тому +1

      most of it is exaggerated though, the americans forced him to protect colonial interests.
      he wasn't as corrupt as people say, majority of his generals were ex warlords who disobeyed orders.
      he himself actually wanted the best for china.

  • @PrussianPoe
    @PrussianPoe Рік тому +4

    One of the underrated fronts of the Pacific war, great video.

  • @hongcezhang2889
    @hongcezhang2889 3 місяці тому

    Many thanks for reporting this part of the history!

  • @sodarobber
    @sodarobber Рік тому +3

    This was really well made. I was surprised that there was no mention of the Gegenmiao massacre, as it was previously touched upon, but regardless, this is an overlooked area of the war and its great that it's being covered in such detail.

  • @bwboy92
    @bwboy92 Рік тому +4

    Thank you for introducing the views of Chinese in the WW2. And it is a very unbiased view that mentioned the shortcoming from both Nationalist and the Communist. In fact WW2 is just a long series of conflicts since the founding of Republic of China. Since the civil war between the Nationalist and the warlords in the 1920s, the war between the Nationalist and the Communist, the war between the China and Japan, and until the ending of the Chinese civil war in mainland China until 1949. Even until today, the conflicts continue between the Nationalist (Taiwan) and the Communist (China).
    The atrocities the Japanese against the Chinese/South East Asia/Korea was never as known as the Nazis but no less brutal. Besides the Nanking, there was the civilians used as test subjects for biological/chemical warfare in the Northeast China, the use of comfort women as forced sex slave from Korea and Taiwan. These are not as obvious as the Nazi concentration camp but no less brutal.

  • @alanyuen680
    @alanyuen680 Рік тому +3

    My grandfather worked for the KMT and seeked refuge in Hong Kong after the Chinese civil war. He was on a kill list and his brother was sent to a concentration camp. As a third generation descendant, It's humbling to learn how little I know about the conflicts. None of this was taught in school, and a lot of information that I've learned over the years were biased. I would appreciate a video like this one that shine lights on what happened during the Chinese civil war.

  • @longarmboiiiiiiiiiii6823
    @longarmboiiiiiiiiiii6823 Рік тому +19

    Never really seen anyone cover China during WW2, as they were mostly left out of history, and even if you focus on Asia most of the time it’s the U.S island hopping to slowly make their way to Japan

    • @loyalpiper
      @loyalpiper Рік тому +3

      That goes for most of mainland Asia, most forget about places like Burma and Malaysia as well.

    • @aureliusmarcusantoninus3441
      @aureliusmarcusantoninus3441 Рік тому +2

      @@loyalpiper In high school we focused on the pacific campaign and the war in China was mostly ignored

    • @longarmboiiiiiiiiiii6823
      @longarmboiiiiiiiiiii6823 Рік тому

      @@loyalpiper Yep, kinda wish schools teach a bit more WW2 in Asia in general

    • @theotherohlourdespadua1131
      @theotherohlourdespadua1131 Рік тому +2

      Part of the reason for that is that between 1942 to 1944 (before Operation Ichi-Go), there wasn't much fighting on that front...

    • @eodyn7
      @eodyn7 Рік тому

      That's because they did nothing but survive until the US clapped Japan.