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The irony of the safety zone in Nanking was that the de facto leader was the Nazi supporting German diplomat. Another ironic thing is that he also wrote back to his superiors and to Hitler describing his disgust at the atrocities and questioning if a alliance with Japanese was morally and practically acceptable
John Rabe
A true hero despite his affiliation
That man’s grave was moved to China after he passed and he is still viewed as a hero by most people there.
那个时候的德国人没有不做纳粹党员的自由
@@jink1768 only based nazi
He saved the lives of 250,000 Chinese, he's viewed as a hero.
For China WW2 was pretty much a battle of survival just like Poland only on a bigger scale. Not only that but the Chinese Civil War took place around the same time and continued after ww2 until 1949
And before. You can say the civil war began since the 1911 Beiyang Revolution, which then lead to the Warlord Era till 1928. Where the Civil War between the CCP and KMT began till 1949.
That is 38 years of civil war, with 8 of those being invaded by the foreign power that is Japan.
And the chinese has greater atrocities committed on them than those the germans deemed "undesirable" you want some nightmare fuel go read on unit 731.
As a Chinese, I don’t like the idea of a large Poland. We have resisted for 14 years. The Kuomintang and the Communist Party have launched countless counterattacks in front of the enemy’s rear. and Crush India (UK) If China is defeated, think about how many Japanese troops can be transferred to other places. They can immediately take down Australia and India, they can take down these places without much effort, and they can rush all the way to the Middle East.
As an American, I respect the Chinese for their heroism and will to defeat their foe. WW2 is always written about USA and USSR winning
How different would the world be if all leaders could follow one simple rule?
Don't be a d***.
US: "You need to supply your men."
British: "You need to supply your men."
CCP: "We need to supply our men."
Kuomingtang: "I require more of the stupid juice."
KMT: I NEED MORE FUCKING GAMER JUICE!
For China, WWII began in 1931. Just note that.
那是共产党的宣传话术
@@东北王思演but thats true
@@justacat2 Nope, it was the second sino-japanese war, not ww2. Two countries at war can't really be called a world war especially back in those days, y'know?
@@tantank sorry but my comment doesn't show up, what did i say?
@@justacat2 Saw nothing. Welcome to the new era of YT. Censorship galore. Hopefully it won't be as bad as the firewall in China lmao
The Japanese were savage in every sense of the word. Even being warned of the nuclear weapons, they still resisted. Madness.
that was the navy, the army were cowards of the highest degree@DililahSiti
@DililahSiti nanking
There are still a small number of Japanese people who believe that the invasion of China in 1931 was correct
Don't view WWII at its face value. It is well-planned and mastermind too. Japan in the East and Germany in the West. The common objective is to reduce the vast population on both sides and at the same time to get rid of all the out-dated weaponery. Hence, after WWII in rememberance of OUR GLORIOUS DEAD. In conclusion: "They died so we may live!" Hypocritical?
@@NeostormXLMAXarmy was insane
everything that happened can be traced back to them.
China is such an overlooked aspect of WW2. It warms my heart that this is finally getting talked about more.
No it's not really.
@@redwind5150 I mean not necessarily, is just that in most schools in the U.S it isn’t really talked about
Wait actually?
@@longarmboiiiiiiiiiii6823 how would you know most schools don't talk about it?
I don’t think anyone is really overlooking it. I’d argue that people the world over are at least tangentially familiar with the tragedy at Nanking.
it is nice that you covered the Chinese perspective of the war. Most books on ww2 books I find don't go into detail about the Chinese in ww2
woops I added books twice my bad
Right?! Its ridiculous as the Pacific War is not very often covered.
@@itsblitz4437I always wondered what happened to China during the second world war, i know there was the chinese civil war
Its ironic that history books always cover America's and Russia's rise as world super powers because of WW2 but never cover the other country that benefited from that war: China. With 2/3rds of Asia being left in disarray after Japans imperial collapse, it set the stage for China to quickly take over as the predominant power in the region which is huge considering how much that region came to be involved in world politics during the 20th century.
I recommend you give a read to "Tower of Skulls"
Even till today
Germany: "we are sorry for starting the war. Aplogies to the world"
Japan: "we are sorry for losing the war. Apologies to the japanese people who didnt benefit from it."
Basically
Germany: we remember, we are sorry.
Japan: we are sorry, we don’t remember.
Yes, I just saw that the Japanese regretted that they were well equipped and lost the war. They never felt guilty and reflected on their cruel behavior.
原爆を投下したアメリカはなんの罪にも問われなかった、日本の罪は唯一負けたことだ。
Most of them thought their ruler was a god and had a sense of nationalism which probably led to this
@@Astral_venus The Japanese army also has genocidal tendencies. China has a lot of relevant information, including many notebooks of Japanese soldiers and officers. I once searched and read them. In the diaries about the Nanjing Massacre, the word they used was "purification." The officer told them that Chinese people were just like pigs, and the elderly and women were also included in the purification scope and needed to be killed.
China really endured a lot of pain and suffering during the war and after. I'm glad this is getting talked about more often.
Same
@@sandwich5344 i know it’s such a disgrace what white people from USA and EU did to the indians and africans
The history of this era explains why modern China still holds a lot of animosity against Japan.
Yes, and much more than that@@squirrelsinjacket1804
@@sandwich5344 dude you're not saying the truth you're just being racist towards Chinese specifically by treating like they're the only evil in the world.
My grandpa was a medic for the Nationalist army up until ichi-go where he was hit by shrapnel. He said that at some times, the men didn’t have rice to eat or ammunition to fire, yet they still resisted to their last for China as subjugation to the Japanese meant the destruction of Chinese civilization
A contrarian (who I won't name here) said the Japanese were better than the KMT because they did a better job of running Taiwan. I think basically everyone in mainland China would disagree with that.
@@willsung5965 bro why would you support the Japanese Empire?
@@harryholden795 Many people don't understand the truth.All this begin from 1927 ,Chinese killed several Japanese in Nanking with no reason.Japanese just revenge and unfortunately 🇺🇲 's kindness
was be used by China so that they sanction 🇯🇵,force 🇯🇵 to start a war can not win.All this is because Chinese hide their true side.
@@harryholden795 it's bait
@@willsung5965 bro why not go to Germany and show your support to the Third Reich and see how long they will let you rot in prison
My hometown is in the mountainous area of Xiangxi, China. When I was young, I heard from my grandma that more than 20 young people in our village went to fight against Japan, and only two returned in the end. Thank you for letting more people know about our history of suffering.
Government wise the Chinese people are extremely brave, honorable, and heroic. Much respect to the elderlies, that is why there is so many benefits for elders in China
湘西老乡吗？
致敬🫡
湘军在抗战中的牺牲尤为惨烈❤
As a Chinese I feel happy that the world acknowledges more and more of our history and suffering
I hope your communist gov would not bring even more suffering to the world. Looking back at what the communist russia did to Ukraine in 2022 and prior to that all the other acts of genocide throughout the history. Cant say that communism is any better than the reich of ww2.
Japanese never felt sorry for that
@@Nevancen be quiet race traitor
How are you using youtube are you using a vpn?
@@rocketman831 probably taiwanese or ethic Chinese in other countries, or a priviledged CCP member hahahah
Japan to the Usa: I am sorry
Japan to the rest of Asia: *I would do it again!*
It's because of right-wing nationalist Japanese politicians and groups like Nippon Kaigi, why People's Republic of China and two Koreas still have resentment towards Japanese government and continue to maintain, build and spend money on their own military. They learnt a harsh lesson from their Qing and Joseon predecessors whom neglected their militaries.
@@TechieWidget
Ironically, those Asian countries always remember their resentment due to continuing watching Tokusatsu medium, the only place where Japanese acknowledge their war crimes and Unit 731.
Especially through Ultraman and Kamen Rider where the Chinese kids, Filipinos kids, Korean kids, Indonesian kids, and Korean kids learn the resentment facts.
Until now some right wing Japanese think they apologized for military failure, not humanitarian disasters. The Chrysanthemum and the Sword is a good book about the difference.
@@TechieWidget By right wing nationalists you mean like vast majority of the population in Japan?
Japan has a tradition of bowing to the strong and ruthlessly bullying the weak
As a Chinese Australian I'm glad that you're shining light on forgotten fronts off WW2. I suggest you try looking into the other forgotten fronts like the West Africa against Vichy France or Burma theatre. My grandmother from Thailand remembers when the Japanese occupied Thailand.
30M people dead in China during WW2, they shall not be forgotten.
As a Chinese australian english **
Australia and Chinese contributions in WW2 (for the Chinese the late 30's aswell) needs to be talked about more.
@@wl82 most of which were civilian, like most other countries in ww2
Because Murica “re-educated” Japan after WWII and gained a lot of benefits from that and since then. Now Japan is Murica’s ally. Murica controlled the majority of western literacy world and media. So that’s why.
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The struggles of China that defined the nation in modern days, and led to her seat as a major power on the UN Security Council is so often underrepresented and not talked about enough. So many times I talk to people in America and commonly the response is “what did Japan do?” or “China fought in WW2?!”
We appreciate anyone who puts notice into this deadly theater and brings it to western attention.
All over, thank you so much.
That’s because they didn’t pay attention in history class. I guarantee if you asked them about the constitution or American history in general, they will be just as ignorant.
We get taught about China in WW2. Flyin tigers, Grape of Nanking, etc. hell we even went over the opium wars and the boxer rebellion which is even further back in time than WW2.
No, the Americans which forged the UN, were correct to recognize China will eventually become a great power. Because United States went through a similar progress of long industrialization process and eventually converted itself from a agrian economy to a industrialized economy after the American Civil war. Had it been the Europeans that formed the UN, China would be excluded 100%.
I know in school in history we look alot into WW2 but mostly in europe and sometimes the pacific but i do remember China being talked about a bit during WW2 but they don’t cover them alot compared to other countries in europe or the island hoping campaign in the pacific it wasn’t until i got to college where we actually digged deeper in the history of other countries including Chinas problem
As an Asian, I want to ask you too. “China fought in WW2 ?”
@@purevjargalpuujee4845 You must be Japanese then, because everyone in China and Korea knows
Thank you for all your hard work on this episode as well as the others. As a 3rd generation Chinese Singaporean, my grandfather escaped from China in the 1920s during the country's turbulent period. The Sino-Japanese war of 1894 was still felt in the 1920s as Japan conquered the Korean peninsula with parts of Northeast Manchuria commiting numerous atrocities, long before they invaded again in 1931. In 1942, Japan invaded and conquered Singapore and killed an estimated 50,000+ civilians (mostly Chinese) out of a population of 900,000+ people for their purportedly monetary support of China against Japan. This history is made a compulsory subject for all secondary school students here in Singapore.
I'm also a singaporean and the japanese were so brutal to us Chinese people rest in peace to the fallen soldier of most sea county and china :(
鬼子的不做人程度是鬼见了都怕的程度
Let's be clear that even if overseas chinese did not send monetary support to China, those Japanese soldiers will still kill and torture overseas chinese reason being China gave them a hard time to accomplish their goals.
You can talk about wars happened in China over and over again, it makes no difference like talking about any wars in the world. Chinese people are mostly Han Zu 汉族. Han languages, Han rituals, Han ancestors' efforts, .... all of these make a difference when you talk about war or any historical events. Our ancestors had made great contributions to the world's progress, and BEFORE any other country did. Why the word today puts us into such a hard time today? They all think that they are the best in the world, while pushing the real one that deserves that into destruction.
respect the truth!
the resilience and the will of the Chinese nation is utmost admireble, even after years of wars and turmoil they still managed to climb their way back to the top...
By the means of undermining human rights, global health and sanity, freedom of religion and all the cruel crimes against humanity?
I dont think that's very acceptable :(
@@sandwich5344 You didn't say what they did specifically and you provided less proof than a flat earth believer.
@@ericlee5515 oh buddy that list is extremely long, just go watch the news and you’ll see atleast one or two of each
@@ericlee5515lmao are u saying the ccp is a kind government who cares about human rights? Average socialist iq right here 😂😂
@@sandwich5344 I think you should look back at history abit.What happened to the native Red Indians when the Americans expand westward?Bombing nations to the ground is very good for their economy.The moment a nearby hostile state is unstable,invade them.Took advantage of the instability of Libiya,supported the rebels and overthrow the government and kill their leader and now westerners can buy oil cheaper.Also what happened in My Lai?Both China and USA have committed crimes and violated human rights for their own good,so westerners have no right to criticise china or they are just hypocrites
in August 1937, one month after the Japanese invaded the Northern China, my father left school as a freshman of University of Beijing and joint the Army.
then he fought against the invader for the next 8 full years, until August 15, 1945.
during that period, he lost his parents and fiancee, when VJ Day finally came, he had had nothing beside a miserable memory.
Thank you for his service. Wish the world recognize their efforts more
谢谢前辈们为我们所做的一切，谢谢
感谢
您的父亲是一位真正英雄
感谢先辈们的努力
This honestly made me tear up a bit. My late grandfather lived in those times under Japanese occupation. He was a child but he remembered it well: Constant hiding in the forest from troops, his sisters dressing up like men to avoid harassment, his grandpa being beaten up by troops by just showing up at the wrong place at the wrong time. It was a miracle my grandfather even survived.
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Your grandpa’s grandpa being beaten by troop? Chinese army or Japanese army?
@@Yugracefwoodel of course by Japanese army
@@Yugracefwoodel he said Japanese occupation time so.
@@dinx3815 I thought he mean because it’s military charged period so that the Chinese army will force normal citizen to cooperate with them otherwise gonna be beaten or punished, anyway, respected eight cross and any other protect their nations Chinese army
One of the craziest and most unexpected stories of the Nanking massacre was how John Rabe, a Nazi, set up a safe zone and saved the lives of thousands of Chinese civilians.
There is also Ms. Minnie Vautrin of Nanjing Women's College, who protected thousands of Chinese women in the Nanjing Massacre to prevent them from being raped by the Japanese.
"The Flowers of War(2011)"
KMT was the true ally of Nazi Germany, not Japan.
Great work as always, apperciate the effort you put into different perspectives of the WW2 and other conflicts
Til this day, cities across China rings air raid alarms on multiple days marking infamy of the nation
My great-grandfather was an army Officer in Kuomintang during the war against Japanese invasion. He died during the battle. He sacrificed his life protecting his family and motherland. I'm proud to have such an honourable ancestor.
感恩！英雄永垂不朽！
May God bless your grandfather in heaven. People like him are the most honourable kind of people to China.
国军共军都是中国人，只要你们别忘了根就行
Excellent content as always!
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One bit that I think could be highlighted more was Soviet material support to China. For a while there the USSR was pretty much the only country who was still willing to back China's seemingly hopeless situation.
Apart from the flying tigers, soviet also sent their volunteer group from Soviet air force, yet their stories are not as popular as the flying tigers in China as well.
@@Frank-qy4rg Yeah the government pulls out the flying tigers whenever they need the population to like the Americans again.
Also they sent materials for both the nationalists and communists
If China was occupied by Japan, the Soviet Union faced a huge threat from Japan, especially in the Far East. The Soviet Union supported China out of its own national interests. However, the Soviet Union occupied more than 1.6 million square kilometers of China and supported the independence of Outer Mongolia.
@@felixkepler6871 Mainly to KMT instead of CCP, the Soviet had long relationship with KMT since the China's Warlord period. KMT aren't able to defeat the other warlords without the Soviet's huge support on weapons and equipment and money. For CCP, is totally different situation. One can even say that the Soviet even treat the warlord Shen shicai in Xinjiang better than CCP.
Love this video, keep up the great work. Could you guys do a video on the Russian Civil War?
I would love to see that!
No! Forget about this country!
@@user-pf3kv4bv5s Aren't you Russian though?
Weren’t there multiple of those?
Great video as always I have always wanted to see World War II from a Chinese perspective
I think it's a shame that China's such an overlooked part of WW2. The loss of life in the Chibese theatre was equal to that of the Eastern front and the atrocities were also just as, if not more brutal
The whole system of this world now is still running by the G7, nothing bad for them would be shown to the world. Sad.
@@cheungchingtong Yeah. Everyone talks about the Nazis and their atrocities, but nobody pays any attention to the Japanese war crimes
So many countries involvement are just overlooked in general, people are forgetting history. I didn’t even know what Australias involment in WW2 was only up until a few months ago, which is turned out they fought in various theaters, such as defending Greece in the Mediterranean, fighting in Africa, and even fighting in the Pacific. Italian involvement is overlooked aswell, so is China
@@russiankodiak6849 Obviously, Australia would be involved, it was a colony back then. Other UK colonies were involved, too (India, Canada, the African colonies, etc.)
Don't rely on school to teach all of history because we don't have time for all of that in there.
My great grandfather was in the KMT army. He never talked about the war. Can't imagine what he must have went through
As a Chinese, I appreciate your very detailed description of the war against Japan in this video, because mainland Chinese history books also describe this story in detail, and we call many generals, including but not limited to the Kuomintang, foreign friends who protected the Chinese during the Nanking Massacre. In China nowadays, we also have museums and memorials on the theme of anti-Japanese resistance, as well as monuments for all the brave martyrs and related commemorative days.Anyway, thank you very much for the video, which can make more people know this history that not many people know.
I appreciate the narration from the bro,and so do you.Frankly speaking, I've never been so proud of our country, together with her contribution to the war aiming for the liberty of the whole world.
Yeah, but no. The communist guerillas did about 3-5% of fighting against Japan, but assumed all the honors. And after they massacred everyone else involved (and their families too), there was nobody else to tell the tale. The Japanese may have killed 10 million Chinese, but the communists killed 100 million.
Your so-called foreign friends protected you so they can continue to exploit your countries resources. You can thank Japan for preventing that by weakening Chiang's army just for the communist to swoop in and take power
@@andrew3203We welcome you to learn about the history of China's War of Resistance Against Japanese Aggression, but it is clear that you are only trying to discredit the Communist guerrillas, which is completely baseless. China has built many monuments, and even the veterans of the Kuomintang are given adequate subsidies and care. And you don't know anything about it, and you're even spreading rumors!
I hope your knowledge comes from official sources, not urban legends
The truth is that most of the fighting was done by the Kuomintang while the Maoist commies hid in the mountains.
True, but they still brag about their efforts in Resistance dramas
Finally for the world to see the truth in the Chinese theater it's really quite underated
Not just Chinese, WW2 in general. No one seems to know anything about WW1. People need to talk more about the Mediterranean, African, and Pacific theaters. We don’t ever hear anything about the French, Chinese, New Zealanders, Australians, Greeks, or even the Italians. They need more awareness of their involvement
My eternal respect to the Chinese from USA. We could not have defeated the Japanese without China
Disagree. The US had so much more industrial power that the Japanese themselves knew they had no hope of winning a long war. They were entirely banking on the US giving up after early defeats made fighting seem costly, which wasn't going to happen after Pearl Harbor pissed the US off and our early victories (like Midway) made the Japanese seem quite defeatable even while Germany remained the priority.
@@clownpendotfart The Japanese would attack the soviet union if their army wasn't drawn away to china. Many of Japan's best of the Kwantung army was drawn away in china. so the soviets wouldn't have to worry about their eastern flank
@@Huben57 The Japanese abandoned the northern plan of attack against the Soviet Union after Khalkhin Gol.
@@clownpendotfart its exactly because their kwantung army was weakened greatly since their best units were sent to china
@@clownpendotfart it's my respect to them. Also, the bulk of Japanese man power was focused in China
I’m a Chinese-Vietnamese American. My grandfather was born in the 30’s and left China in 1949 during the end of the Chinese Civil War. Those times were very poor and hard but it wasn’t so long ago.
No, the Chinese civil war is not over until the reunification with Taiwan island according to Chinese' perspective
Hope to see more videos about china! Rest in peace to those who suffered from the japanese.
"Imperial" Japanese. A very important distinction.
A cabal of evil men had wormed their way into the upper ranks of the imperial Japanese military. And unfortunately they had the Emperors ear. They basically brainwashed him with militant propaganda and lies.
That whole part of history is a very deep rabbit hole with many tunnels. And quite interesting.
As a Chinese-American, WW2 was only half of the brutality that China faced in the 20th century. We as the people survived such hardships and its not quite a happy ending.
As a Anglo-Chinese, I agree with this statement.
I agree. Our people have suffered through brutal warfare and famine in our country and in our history. Given the bad tensions going on, we can hope that both the US and China will not go to war so our people can suffer less and we may live a peaceful life
Ironically the Stalin-backed communists were actually worse than the Japanese, lol.
@@Young_Baller7sadly , history has shown us that these situations usually end in blood. We can only hope for the best, and i hope nothing bad happens
Haha what about Taiwan fckn rice cooker
Japanese when seeing infants jn Nanjing: "These kills will bring us honor!"
Japanese when seeing Hiroshima and Nagasaki get the big boom: "Was that really necessary 🥺🥺🥺🥺"
Lmao exactly.
The brave Chinese kept over 4 million Japanese soldiers tied down. It was the Eastern Front of Asia.
Totally. This was what i was trying to say.
Thank you so much for this video, the chinnese front against the japanese is so overlooked when studying the 30s and WW2 and hearing from a youtuber like you warm my heart, as it will spread the information and get it more talked about. Usually when I mentioned my great great grandfather and his brother fought together in the war against the japanese, most people would not even know that the second sino japanese war ever happened or dismissed it completely.
However i kind of understand the lack of knowledge, media and history classes mostly focuses on the war in Asia being fought by the british commonwealth and the americans against the japanese. The only reason I ever learn about it, is because of my heritage where the involvement of my great great grandparent and his brother in a long fought war at the other side of the world has been passed on. An old binocular is all whats left, but it keeps his story alive.
Thanks for the effort!
This is really interesting topic to talk about, alot people see Kuouming tan leader Chiang Kai-shek as a angel due to the different between the mainland china and taiwan today. Even tho how corrupted it was during the late war which boost communist spread in China.
I suppose the lesson is that there are far worse things than corruption.
CKS was no angel, even before the Chinese Civil War. Most ppl don’t know that he had to be kidnapped by his own generals to make him form an alliance with Mao to fight the Japanese.
@@TechieWidget Since Mao wound up taking over China after the US defeated Japan, CKS doesn't seem so irrational in retrospect!
Both were pretty ass but i think cks wouldve been better considering china wouldve probably turned into democraxy after his son become president
most of it is exaggerated though, the americans forced him to protect colonial interests.
he wasn't as corrupt as people say, majority of his generals were ex warlords who disobeyed orders.
he himself actually wanted the best for china.
I would say that of the 3 major axis powers japan has answered the least for their crimes against humanity. Germany accepted and apoligised for their crimes. Italy doesn't shy from their history. Japan Pretends they never commited their crimes. My great uncle served in the british army and was captured by japan, his two fellow sergents were executed on the spot and most of his men were executed.
@TPG Studios
What about Tokusatsu, that Japanese medium?
It’s the only place where the Japanese acknowledge their country’s war crimes and Unit 731.
We nuked them. Twice. Seems like an appropriate punishment to me.
@@obvious-troll hardly anyone? there are still several "comfort woman" aka imperial japanese victim, they were assaulted about the age of 10 years old.
@@obvious-troll imagine if the Germans took the same stance, oh man not that many Jews from the holocaust left or victims of our occupation are alive let's never talk about our crimes again.😂
@obvious troll Just to clarify I have nothing against the current nation of Japan it's a great country I intend to visit one day however my point was that overall Japan overall has not answered as much for their crimes as much as say germany dispite having commited more war crimes.
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... i am bothered by the use of "soft" language trying to "protect" the sensitivity of sensitive people. Though I understand it might be for monetization.
Still... say it as it is. The wanton slaughter of civilians. Genocide. Mass rape. Mass slaughter. Gross torture. Crimes against humanity. The Japanese not only raped women and children, but forced family members and religious leaders into sex acts for their amusement. The Japanese throw babies like footballs, tossing them into the air and spearing them with bayonets or chopping them with their katana as if they were playing fruit ninja. They would pump someone dying of thirst full of water like they were balloons, then stomp on their stomach.
They would pile the heads of slaughtered civilians in the town square as a trophies.
All of these, were witnessed by my grandparents and great grandparents.
Thank you for finally covering the Chinese perspective and mentioning the notorious corruption and embezzlement that the Kuomintang was involved in when they had control of Mainland China. My family used to have ties with Kuomintang, going back to the time when they were part of Tongmenhui in overthrowing the Qing. It was until 1946 when my great-grandpa had enough of Kuomintang upperclassmen embezzling foreign aid (esp food) and had him and his family fled to Southeast Asia to escape persecution after exposing their embezzlement in newspapers via his friend.
Where in southeast asia did he flee to?
@@clownpendotfart Singapore or Malaysia would most likely be the location, given how populated Chinese are at there.
But maybe countries like Vietnam and Burma given how close they're to China's Mainland
Your great grandpa made a wise choice escaping to Southeast Asia. If your family stayed in China, they would have being prosecuted during the Anti-Rightist Campaign or Cultural Revolution due to their former ties to KMT.
I think one thing a lot of people in the west don’t realize is that neither the KMT or CCP had the moral high ground and both group committed atrocities. Only difference is CCP came out on top in the end.
Ultimately it was the average citizen that suffered as a result. My families weren’t KMT supporters nor CCP revolutionary they were a small family of merchants that were caught in the crossfire.
My family was apparently too rich for the CCP during the purge but they weren’t well off enough to escape the country at the time and most of my family’s clan was wiped out. I was told those that those of my family survived became wandering beggers before finally taken refuge with a community of Hui people and weren’t even allowed to enter large cities until Deng Xiao Ping became chairmen in the 1980s. My family manage to make a living in the mainland until we had to run due to allegations of treason and charges of corruption. I was young at the time but my understanding was someone influential in the province I was from had issues with my family business and when we refused to pay “protection fee” to the local gang and suddenly we were charged with allegation of treason. We were under house arrest and my family eventually “sold” their business to the person and we were released from house arrest. We didn’t take any chance and fled for the U.S immediately fearing they will come after us again with nothing but what little saving we had left.
Years later we found out from another family who fled to the U.S that this was a common tactic by corrupted official. Had we not sold our business we would have most likely been executed or imprisoned and our assets would have been taken by the government regardless.
@@HWDragonborn Definitely, he would most likely be made a target during Cultural Revolution because of his educational background (he studied law in Fudan University) and former ties with KMT. If he never exposed embezzlement of food foreign aid by KMT in Amoy, he may have stayed on mainland China or fled to Taiwan or Hong Kong.
I would love to see you do some videos on the lesser known battles of WW2. Like the battle of Buron or Orsha. I just feel like there’s so much spotlight on the US and Western Front, the Eastern Front and commonwealth countries get overlooked.
If anyone has a video or stuff on these I’d love it if you shared! I’ve got the Bloody Buron book, but that’s about all I can find
Burma or Alaska are probably the least covered
It makes sense depending where you live. If you’re an American, you basically have American UA-cam with mainly American content creators. It’s an algorithm thing from my understanding.
Much like Netflix. American IP address gets you mostly American Netflix. German IP address gets you mostly German Netflix. (It was hilarious watching anime in German)
@@eannamcnamara9338 right??? I feel like Burma was pretty important
@@bigredwolf6 that’s funny cause I noticed that a few years ago but I just thought it was a fluke. Thanks man!
Japan was so brutal that even the Nazis were worried. Even hardcore nazi's helped Chinese civilians escape.
都是为了国家利益而已。另外就是蒋介石自己就对德国纳粹那套情有独钟，照猫画虎地在国民党搞了个「军统」。他还自以为和希特勒是知心朋友。可惜希特勒对他没多大兴趣，即便援助也只是做做样子。
Absolutely glad China is getting a history lesson, I heard of nankin and was horrified and saddened by the event, to this day I don’t know how anyone any human can commit or think about doing what they did and continuing throughout the war it really shows how humans are when given complete control and freedom to do whatever they want
What makes it even more sad is that it could have been preventable but it happened due to Japanese military generals’ incompetence with disciplining their officers and sub-commanders, and getting them to follow their orders. A lot of officers and sub-commanders often go against their generals’ orders because of factionalism, their egos or conflicting ideals. This issue never got resolved and later on lead to Manila massacre in 1945.
Well the japanese were far from humans, to call them savages is lenient
Japanese soldiers were deeply influenced by militarism and fascism, and they believed in the theory of racial superiority, just like Nazi Germany, which led them to not believe that Chinese people were humans but animals that they could freely kill.
11:04 I heard a story from “The Hump” where an aircraft crew transporting supplies across the mountains was transporting a piano meant for Chiang’s wife. They threw it out of the plane over the mountains.
Based, she can live without a imported piano.
she was the more competent part of their marriage
@@wafl423 she was only useful diplomatically.
that just goes to show the level of corruption that is endemic in the KMT gov., its rotten from the core from top to bottom
Totally false.
Stilwell once transported a cargo of sports shoes for the Chinese army.
Largely what can be shipped into China was decided by USA and British. They sure could find a piano in China, what scarce was gasoline.
My Great Uncle, Shanghainese, born in 1922, was a hero during Sino-Japanese war. But not just a hero but a lifetime tragedy.
When he was young, my great uncle learned martial arts in Shaolin Temple and before the war join the ROC Army as a guard, stationed in Shanghai. He has a photo with other guard and ROC President Chiang Kai-shek at his age of 15.
When Shanghai was broken by Japanese Army, he followed the guard regiment to Chongqing and then joined China intelligence Bureau for his shooting skill and martial arts. He was later assigned to assassinate Japanese officers and Chinese traitors in Shanghai. After successful killing 7 targets with his special action teammates in Shanghai once he got injured on his leg and almost captured. Fortunately, he finally fled from Shanghai to Hong Kong, though most of his teammates died from the last assassin.
From Hong Kong he back to Xi Feng, Guizhou Province, to build with Americans the Sino-American Special Technical Cooperative Organization (SASTCO) 3rd branch. As his one disabled leg, he can't go kill Japanese officers anymore. Later he served as a lieutenant colonel instructor in 3rd Branch, to train more Chinese agents with other American instructors, and send bunches of young soldiers to the occupied cities for special missions. In 1949, he was stationed in Hong Kong as a military agent, waiting for new mission from Taiwan Authority.
In around 50’s he and his team were captured once entering mainland. Almost all his followers were sentenced to death. However, one high rank CCP intelligent officer knew my great uncle as they might have some connection or cooperation action during WW2 in Shanghai. The officer proved my great uncle never killed any CCP but only Japanese, and get wounded during 40’s. So, he was sentenced to life imprisonment from 50’s.
After Nixon’s visit in China, he was freed from prison in 80’s. But his wife died for years and now his son and daughter didn’t accept this father for the long years’ political persecution and no-responsibility to the family. So, he lived alone in Suzhou in a small rent room until 1993 he was taken to live with my grandfather, his brother.
He taught me some martial art, but I was not talented on that. He bought me chocolate and always smile to me peacefully. Yes, his eyes are always that peaceful, no regret, no pain even through the death battlefield, 30 years prison, 10 years lonely life.
He passed away one day around year 2000, with only a few relatives (my grandfather died in 1999 ahead of him). His son didn’t attend the funeral in the end and wouldn’t accept his tomb close with his wife’s.
20 years passed, I always remember his smiling and peaceful eyes, feed me with chocolate. At that moment, he might recall his son’s childhood at the sight of me. By the way, his name is Qian Jie.
Wow. I wonder how many ROC men like your great uncle never get to tell their stories throughout history.
Condolences, it’s a shame how heroes like him get screwed by evil governments, is there anyway you could share his picture with Chiang Kai-Shek?
@@kianvandenberg6364 Thanks. I don't think so. The photo is dangerous to the family, so it must be taken away or hidden in some place.
@@JR5745 Millions I think. When in childhood in 1985-1995, we often found some neighbor or classmate family are ROC's. But we avoided talking deep even inside family.
@@YangLiu-fx9yn I understand, good luck
The Second Sino-Japanese War was a war that is really overlooked in history. It was a war that was part of the Second World War. The stories told from my family during the war was extremely sad and difficult to listen to. Around millions of Chinese people United and fought the Japanese even though they were much more superior in military. 20 million Chinese people died from this war. The Japanese were extremely brutal and inhumane to the Chinese people. Respect to the Chinese who fought and sacrificed for their country.
So happy we have UA-camrs like The Armchair Historian
His highlights for me are talking about the Australian, Italian, and Chinese involvement in WW2. Hope he does some Greece videos in the future, such an interesting theater of war the Mediterranean was in WW2
This video is eye-opening and allows me to feel that we are more alike than different. Kudos to what China achieved today I just think I can let go of my dislikes of China and start to embrace them more. Respect from Canada.
Republic of China 🇹🇼
Masterpiece as always, Grif and the team coming in clutch today
Thank you for your detailed video explaining the Sino-Japanese war. The atrocities done to the Chinese people cannot be covered even 1% in this 20-minute video. For example, Unit 731 is the most brutal and inhumane crime in modern history. The Japanese beasts unethically conducted the cruelest experiments on Chinese civilians. Women, children and even infants were subjected to gas experiments, vivisection, frostbite experiments, human and horse blood exchange, human and animal hybridization, human limbs exchange etc. And the USA let the ringleaders escaped without any trial in return for experimental data.
江山异域，不共戴天
and so too - can't the atrocities done by the chinese government be covered even 1% by more than decades worth of research and intelligence
@peaceleague6514 thats why the US and Japan are on such good terms today. They are similar breeds.
But in Tibet you guys do those same things, right?😂
@@kokumotu0909 Tibet was another story of a totally different nature. The group of people who cried the loudest were the landlords. But there was social inequalities within the Tibetan societies - slaves. This aspect the West did not mention much, because Tibet was a tool of the West' rhetoric, of course it would not talk about the social inequalities in Tibet, just like the West now wants to use India to handle China, it will not talk about the caste system still has influence in Indian societies, the Muslims were attacked by the Hindus etc.
And your country (if I judge correctly you're Japanese) has done the most appalling harm to humans. Not just about the past brutal killigs, nowadays you still want to pour Fukushima nuclear power plant water into the ocean to contaminate the marine lives? And you put on this laugh smiley?
If you ever do your versus series again American Paratroopers vs Japanese ones would be cool.
I was not aware Japan had paratroopers. Ya learn something new everyday
@@bigredwolf6 they had, they were called Teishin Sudan, and they had a lot of activity between 1942 and 1943 during the Philippine campaign...
Given the United States was directing the majority of their rage and firepower towards Japan, it's unfortunate how little it's thought of and talked about on the more populous East Coast here in the US. The events of World War II in the Indo-Pacific have far more relevance today than anything in Europe.
I disagree. We’re seeing WW2 weapons and tactics on the eastern edge of Europe. Again. Both situations are heavily influenced by WW2.
Disagree. WW2 forged a lot of the closest Allies we see today in the West. It's the reason for the formation of the European Union and the origin of a lot of the issues between Russia and the West. These issues are still at play today.
The European theatre of WW2 is the main factor in the cold war which has been reignited recently
@@TargetFinder72 If you think Russia is a part of the new cold war you are pretty delusional, they are only very loosely economically aligned with China.
Why would the East Coast think of Japan more than Europe that is nearer to them? New York Harbor was invaded by Kriegsmarine subs in 1942, don't act like that it's something they must fear less than Japanese ships...
Because fdr's foreign policy advisors were soviet spies trying to get the POTUS to make bad decisions. Which is why china was overlooked during ww2.
(I'm serious look it up)
Learning about the Second Sino-Japanese war inspired me to try and learn Mandarin. I hope some day to be able to read primary sources, what ever may exist of them. Good work on this, a forgotten front and a forgotten ally.
I’m sure there are plethora of primary sources written in Chinese in museums, libraries, and memorials on both sides of the Taiwan Straight.
As an American, I would very much like to learn more about modern Chinese history. I feel like most of my school-learning on China focused on ancient history. Thank you for another informative video.
God be with you out there everybody! ✝️ :)
Modern Chinese history is a bit more controversial lolol
unfortunately, modern china is powered by corruption and a rather contriversial form of "soft power" in order to undermine the truth about what actually goes on behind closed, marxist doors rather difficult.
However - a few key points and main events are:
- forced labour "re-education" camps, WWII style
- organ harvesting, the likes of dystopian novels
- forced steralisation, one way to wipe out religious & ethnic minorites
- covering up global threats cause "if i warn the government about X, they'll accuse me of X"
Thank you for your interest in Chinese history. China's modern history begins with the Qing dynasty, specifically see the beginning of China's battle to resist the British dumping of opium into China in 1840. China has experienced semi-colonial and semi-royal rule ever since. After the overthrow of the Qing Dynasty in 1911, China entered a phase of warlord rule and Kuomintang (KMT) rule, with the Civil War and Japanese invasion of China occurring at the same time. The Communist Party of China (CPC) was founded in 1921, and after the Sino-Japanese War ended in 1945, the CPC and the KMT began a civil war of more than 3 years, which culminated in the departure of the KMT from the mainland to Taiwan. And China, after 1949, has been seeking strategic autonomy independence and balance among different forces such as the Soviet Union and the United States.
Because Murica “re-educated” Japan after WWII and gained a lot of benefits from that and since then. Now Japan is Murica’s ally. Murica controlled the majority of western literacy world and media. So that’s why.
The saddest part is that not only the Chinese soldiers dies, but civilians too, both children and women.
And the fact that after the Chinese anti Japanese war ended, the civil war then resume and the Kuomintang government escape to the island, known as Taiwan. I honor all Chinese soldiers defending their nations and the families protecting their children and relatives from these Japanese fascism. I apologize for my bad English but…
*GLORY TO REPUBLIC OF CHINA* 🇹🇼 🇹🇼🇹🇼🇹🇼🇹🇼
荣耀归于中国人。跟政权无关！！！！！！
You forget to mention china had the 2nd highest amount of military and civilian causalities accumulating to 20M in total , both china and USSR made up 70% of total ww2 death. Really it was china and USSR that won the world war ,without their sacrifice the axis powers would have won, its no where near comparable to western efforts.
one of the most successful battles china won was "the hundred regiment offensive" it caused the Japanese to be pushed quite far back
*Poor Republic Of China.*
Thank you Armchair Historians, for making another great video about China during WW2.
China’s role (both the KMT & the CPC) in WW2, shouldn’t be forgotten and deserved more attention.
Hate it how everyone always remembers Japan as a members of the Axis, and forget to mention’s Japan’s long term enemy of WW2 and a member of the allied power; China. Most Americans and other allied members only mention themselves as the one who’s been fighting Japan in WW2, and forgets to mention that China has been fighting Japan way before them.
My mother was born in a little village from northern China where it was contested by Japanese and communist guerrillas. It’s impossible for our family to forgive what Japanese have done to our neighbors, friends, and families. Knowing this, you will understand modern day China a lot better.
hats off to that atomic bomb, even though that is not enough for the loss of Chinese people.
I know you wanted to emphasize both CCP and Nationalists contributed to the war but seriously. What did CCP do other than a small guerilla fight? Even Mao told to his general to use only 10% of their troops to fight against the Japanese. And I think it's not fair saying Nationalists didn't use weapons that were meant to be used against the Japanese, but omitting CCP did that as well. Is it really fair for putting CCP and Nationalists in the same place when one did significantly more than the other?
Mao’s aim was basically to avoid fighting whenever possible and he basically used the war to his advantage
You need to look at what CCP did for China not what it didn’t do
China was hurt just as bad as Russia in WW2 but their story is tragically widely unknown.
Also tragic is how some of Japan's war criminals were never even punished.
It is always a good day when The Armchair Historian uploads. Happy Mothers Day everyone!
I would love to see him do either a perspective on the Philippines, Brazil or Mexico as they are mostly forgotten.
Filipino here, no need, we got blitzkrieg'd (most of SEA countries were). The Philippines wasn't even a country back then.
我奶奶在抗日战中的幸存下来，真实的情况是国名党军队非常缺乏纪律，人们不仅要防着日本人，还要防着国名党军队。我奶奶和我说，国名党军人比日军还要野蛮，他们抢夺搜刮百姓，不留下一口粮食。而共产党奉行：“不拿群众一针一线” 这才是导致最后百姓都愿意加入共产党，而不是国民党最主要的原因。所以我从来不认为国名党在中国可以成功。
er... no, CCP almost did nothing in ww2
谁说的，ccp比国党还早抗日，是一开始抗日的队伍，蒋介石还行攘外必先安内，最后西安事变强迫国民党联合抗日，ccp情报科不知道搞多少情报，百团大战是八路军打的。
thx for mentioning the rape of nanking! japanese need to apologize in this or the next lifetime!!!
1938年日本人攻入广东，我奶奶当时8岁，她经常会跟我讲诉这段历史，每当日本军人进入她们村时，烧杀抢劫是必然的，人们只能躲进深山里避难，或是远处的农田沟里，我奶奶曾在猪屎棚里逃过一劫，她将猪粪便撒满整个棚子躲进棚子里的茅草堆里，因为足够臭日军才不会去搜刮，当时她才8岁，天知道她当时究竟在承受着怎样的心理压力。可恶的是南京大屠杀的暴行在日军侵略时所到之处比比皆是，只是规模大小不一，日军在中国屠杀了3500万人，其中中国军人仅413万，剩下的全是平民！有3100多万无辜平民被残忍屠杀，时至今日日本政府仍未道歉，甚至当局不愿意承认这段历史
I'm so sorry to hear that. I'm from korea so I've heard of Japanese atrocities from my grandfather when I was young but it definitely looks like the Chinese people suffered way more.
在几乎所有的战争里，绝大多数的平民死伤都是粮荒和疾病。抗战中也不例外。不是为日军开脱，这笔账肯定要记在日本人头上。
Japanese invasion was not only cruel & heinous, but for a thousand+ years China was Japan's older brother. China gave language, culture, religion, literature, custom, philosophy... to Japan and this is how they repay
China was an imperial Power forcing it's neighbouring countries into submission via tribute. It didn't deserve anything the Japanese did to them at all and these criminals are to be held to account but let's not pretend chinas and Japan's History is one of mutual respect and aid or smth
@@hospod163如果你看了日本的历史书就能明白，日本历史书上说日本当初向中国朝贡一些礼物，中国就会以20倍的礼物送给日本，日本还以此为傲。而冲绳，当初的琉球王国，和中国朝贡关系特别好，只要她们送给中国礼物，中国就会以20倍的礼物送给琉球。琉球应此为中国创作了歌曲欢迎中国的船到来
@@hospod163China never forced Japan. There was only one time that mongol empire tried to invade Japan but failed. Other Chinese powers never had interest in Japan. Well Japan did really invade Korea in 16th century and China helped Korea. At other times Japan learned from China and trading, until 20th century.
19th century Japan was marked by a shift to move away from Chinese towards European ideas. Mostly because the weakening Qing dynasty, which when Japan defeated only 30 years since they modernised, convinced everyone that China was no longer in any position of power.
As for the second sino-japanese war, it was caused by officers who became unruly due to believing that Japan was swindled from the past few treaties, namely that of the Russo-Japanese war and WW1.
On mainland Asia, IJA officers held administrative power, not the emperor.
This is why I can never hate on china. They have suffered so much in their entire history. It’s good they are what they are today, as they managed to become a nation not to be messed with. Sure I don’t like how they run certain things in their government, but we also need to look a little into their history to understand more.
As a Chinese myself, I am very glad to see this video with such quality. I am glad to see how you talked about the war crime made by IJA and the fight between Chiang Kai Shek and CCP under the table and what did Chiang do wrong to lose the civil war in the future, as I still often see some people are saying it was the CCP who did not fight with the Japanese and that's how they lost the civil war. (Which I think that is totally not the facts or that just a tiny part of the story.)
There is actually more to talk about:
1, The Japan invasion of Jehol Province end up a DMZ between China and Japan, while Japan had significant influences over there. It actually act as way of how the Japanese goods, like yarn, to avoid the import duty from Chinese customs. Imagine what will happen for a industrial country keep selling goods without being charged any duties on it. Also, Japanese companies managed to obtain some local factories with little cost in Jehol Province after that as well.
2, The Marco polo bridge incident broke out on the 7th of July, 1937. It was until 2 weeks later when IJA launched an attack on Peking as it was an incident made by a few lower rank officers(Mutaguchi Renya and Kiyonao Ichiki) who seem it as an opportunity to be promoted, like 1931. The Japanese authority saw it as an opportunity to occupy Huabei Region. Peking and Tianjin was under another Chinese warlord control, and he did not see this as a full scale invasion as this kind of incident happened many times before, and it often ended up with compensations and Japanese took control over some land around Peking.( And left Marco Polo Bridge the last route to connect Peking with the rest of China that is still under Chinese forces control by 1937.)
Mutaguchi Renya organised a failed operation, Battle of Imphal, leading to death of lots of their own due to lack of supply, but he managed to survive after the war. Ichiki died in Guadalcanal with that "famous assault" Battle of the Tenaru.
3, At the start of Battle of Shanghai in August 1937, Japanese authority believed this Incident would be ended within three months, as emperor asked in the meeting when will this finished? The army chief of staff said he believed this incident would be ended within a month. The emperor apparently did not believed that and asked what if it did not end within a month. Another officer, who is a member of royal family said a month is a bit overexaggerated, he believed it this incident can be solved within three months.
And in fact, Chiang was planned to agree on Trautmann mediation later by the mid of December 1937, so the estimation was correct until the Japanese authority announced the they will not see Chiang as the leader of China anymore and they were looking forward to negotiate with another pro-Japanese Chinese leader on mid January 1938. This make peace between China and Japan no longer possible.
4, Apart from Trautmann mediation, there were two more peace negotiation between Chiang and Japanese authority before December 1941. Apparently, none of them end with a peace deal. And those deal were pretty harsh. Including but not limited to: admit the division of Manchuria, more compensation, allowing IJA to retreat from China when they wanted to, Against CCP not the Japanese.
5, Not sure whether this has been mentioned before or not, the Battle of Shanghai was started with surrounding Japanese settlement in Shanghai by Chinese forces as a lesson learned from 1932 battle of Shanghai. After 1932, Chinese Army are not allowed to stay in Shanghai, but Chiang managed to disguised them as military police and placed them outside of Shanghai DMZ. He decided to take Japanese settlement before the Japanese Marine Corps starts to attack them( as a lesson learned from 1932). However, the HQ of Japanese Marine Corps was designed with the ability to become a fort when needed. And Chinese force was lack of heavy artilleries and no air superiority. Both Chiang and Japanese started to bring more force to Shanghai.
6, Apart from the flood, there were other man-made disaster like 1938 Changsha fire, which shows KMT was lack of organisation and corruption in there.
7, Japanese occupation the ports and major cities of China that attempt to cut the supply route of China damaged other foreign powers' business, and I personally still believed it was the occupation of Southern Indochina lead to the embargo and the lost of business in China lead to the loans rather than what IJA did in China. At one degree, Roosevelt was about to agree with Japanese that the US will admit the Manchuria and leave Japanese alone as far as they promised not to allied with Germany and they will not occupy British and Dutch colonies.
8, The Burma Road was not exist before. Due Japanese occupied most of ports by the end of 1937, the Chinese authority started to build this road at the beginning of 1938 and because of lack of heavy engineering equipment, local authorities gathered more than 200 thousand people from locals, old people, children and women mainly, to build this road from mountains to mountains.
9, Chinese army was not always go well when it came to 1944. With the loses in vassals for Japanese, Japan need to connect South East Asia under its control with Manchuria, so they can bring resources by train rather than vassals. Japanese army launched Operation Ichi-Go at the end of 1944. It ended up with success for Japanese side, and of course, that means great lost on Chinese side(500,000-600,000 casualties according to wiki).
Overall, this is definitely a great video, I just want to say China did a lot on against the invasion from Imperial Japan, not just lost more that 10 million of its own people, but also this war allowing the ally to focus on the Europe and managed to forced Japan put millions of people in China in order to maintain its occupation. And eventually led to Japan's decision to attack Pearl Harbour that really changed everything.
I am also a bit surprised when it said the war started 8 years earlier than 1939. (That is 14 years in total.) As before, many would say it was eight years and it wasn't until decades ago that we start to say we fought for full 14 years. And glad to see you mentioned Japanese war crime, despite there are more to say.(Like Three Alls Policy, using of chemical weapons and notorious Unit 731. I really hope many of you can learn about those in the future.)
The CCP really didn't fight the Japanese after the 100 regiments offensive in 1940.
It was actually explicit policy to avoid antagonizing the Japanese and focus on expanding base areas in the countryside.
@@porksterbob No the CCP was restricted to smaller operations instead of large full on operations like the 100 regiment offensive.
The CCP bases in northern China were almost completely destoryed following the Japanese counter offensive post 100 regiment offensive.
Peng suggested the operation to Mao, Mao accessed correctly that should the Japanese counter attack, the existence of the CCP armed forces would be jeperdized.
All the cringe westerners after reading some pro KMT propaganda apperently believed the CCP was capable of fighting the Japanese head on at this time in the war. This is complete BS, the CCP were at the mercy of the Japanese, the CCP's existence behind Japanese lines kept significant Japanese and Chinese collborator troops back as garrison, but they weren't enough wipe out the CCP. Draw too much attention, Japanese will pull back from the frontline and they be all dead.
Therefore Mao correctly instructed the CCP to operate as logistic disruption, as well as infiltrating collaborators. And to launch large scale disruptions in the logistic network anytime the Japanese tried to launch large offensives against the KMT.
Both KMT and CCP were conserving forces tor the final showdown post Japanese defeat.
@@lolasdm6959 you're pretending the entire 1949 to 1990 period didn't exist. This was when the CCP pretended that they did the lions share of the fighting and the kmt didn't.
The CCP could have made Japan's life very difficult during ichigo. They had a million troops in 1944.
They purposely decided not to as they saw it as the best way to defeat the KMT.
Mao was executing the best strategy for the CCP. It wasn't the best strategy for China though.
@@porksterbob A million troops in 1944? You are tripping. CCP only had enough weapons to equip 1 million men after the Soviets handed the Manchurian Japanese arsenal to the CCP.
Mao was trying to not die, he moves something big once during operation Ichigo his dead, and all the men under his command. Mao correctly waited for the Japanese to vacate themselves from northern China during Ichigo, and then launched attack all across North China, the collaborators pretty much didn't give up a fight once the Japanese went south. Reclaiming vast amounts of terrtory with his tiny army and suffering basically no losses, and cutting off the Japanese from their supply depots in the north. You are free to provide an alternative strategy that can have a better result. Trust me you can't, Mao isn't stupid, his the best strategist ever to take helm in China in the last couple hundred years.
Chiang was conserving his strength as well, it's just his troops had nowhere to hide when the Japs come knocking. Something bound to happen when you have 40 armies under your command compared to 2 heavily understrengthed armies under Mao.
As for CCP claiming lion's share of effort in the war of resistance, that is plain wrong. I had read the history book in China, it constantly focuses on the failings of KMT but nowhere did it claim CCP was responsible for most of it. In fact it even teaches that Mao accepted leadership under Chiang. You are free to take out a real source and refute me. It also teaches the Chiang speech where he said that no further conccessions can be made to the Japanese.
@@lolasdm6959 the new fourth army and the 8th route army were massive by 1944.
The handover if Japanese equipment by the Soviets would put them up to 1.5 million by the start of the civil war.
A typical Chinese army was some 5-10 divisions I.e. a little over 100,000 troops at best.
Both the communist armies had grown to be several hundred thousand each by 1944.
Mao was a brilliant strategist. But he was a brilliant strategist for Mao and the CCP, not for China.
The CCP could have done a lot more to make ichigo difficult, but they didn't because it would help win them the civil war.
This was definitely the right call vis a vis defeating the KMT. However, if was not the right call if the goal was defeating Japan and/or protecting the Chinese populace.
Here is what a better result is...
Mao is a bit more aggressive in the summer of 1944. He attacks more Japanese forces directly. He doesn't do full death or glory attacks that wipe out the red army, but enough to make the Japanese keep more troops in the north.
With less troops, maybe the Japanese don't win fourth Changsha, maybe they don't win the battle of hengyang. Essentially, ichigo becomes less successful. Lots of South China stays unoccupied.
That would have been a better result ... For China and Chinese people.
I'm very glad someone is finally covering the Second Sino Japanese war. This theatre is so rarely covered, yet so many men had died just to protect their land. It truly is astounding.
Always great tto see things from alternative perspectives! Another topic that's somehow rarely discussed but might be very interesting would be "Crusades from the Muslim perspective". How much of an impact did the conquest of the Holy Land actually have to the Arab World? Was the Christian Invasion seen as an existential threat to Islam itself like e.g. the Ottoman Expansion was seen by Christianity? Or was it seen as "just" another conflict as the Middle East had already been a war-torn region before? And how much truth lies in the narrative of cruel Crusaders on the one side and a wise, just Sultan Saladin as their counterpart?
To China KMT was corrupted isn't totally true. Under the banner of KMT holds many different warlords that was cohered into joining the KMT, but a lot did what they wanted and wasn't really part of the central group. So, personally gain and corruption would rampage while KMT was still trying to bring the broken nation into one.
Tbh, the KMT were really corrupted since citizens lives
They would tax the poor heavily while the rich have to pay NOTHING(sounds like 2024 America)
Some of the things that happened in Nanjing is one of the worst stuff I ever read. It is insane how humans are able to do such stuff to innocent people. In the West this is all ignored, since Germany to this day is the only boogeyman in the entire history of humankind. The German people are mentally broken due to the aftermath of WW2 and the indoctrination. Meanwhile Japan never underwent anything like that.
8:48 my man ran at a tank a blew up 💀
The 20th century was one of if not the worst century ever for humanity. And it happened so recently. Right before what many, including myself, believe to be humanity's greatest times. This comes to show how humans can, and will always, win.
During China's War of Resistance Against Japanese Aggression (1937-1945), more than 35 million Chinese soldiers and civilians were killed or injured.
35? try 100
Unlike Germany, Japan still doesn't think that aggression and killing are wrong. They are peaceful now because they have no means of retaliating against the United States! Believe me, the Japanese are very patient and will show their fangs when the time comes.
@DililahSiti then bomb the US again
Some israeli soldier watching and taking notes from the Japanese
You are one of my favorite history channels, you should do a video on the Chinese Civil War. It seems no one has a desire to cover it, I think you would be breaking major ground by providing your education on such a consequential conflict.
China fought fascism on the east side of the globe in WW2,this should not be forgotten
But why would Nazi Germany send uniforms equipment to China after the alliance with Japan? Who is the real fascism?
The initial defense of Shanghai in 1937 was entirely conducted by the KMT. This is quite an important detail, as the heavy losses suffered by the Nationalists permanently put them on the back foot against the Communists later on. Chiang Kai-Shek gambled the lives of his only highly trained and equipped men (by the Germans) at Shanghai, to show the Western foreign occupiers that China would fight to defend itself, and would benefit from foreign aid.
This sadly never amounted to anything, though there’s an arguable link between the atrocities committed at Shanghai/Nanking and the attack on Pearl Harbor; anti-Japanese imperialism public sentiment may very well have led to the US to cutting off oil sales to Japan, which…well, that’s a whole other can of worms.
Still, I’m glad to see more focus on this aspect of the Eastern theater of WW2. It’s one of many key components to understanding Chinese foreign affairs today, and especially the Taiwan issue. Thanks for your hard work.
真正让国民党处于不利地位的是他的政策，在国民党与共产党对峙初期，国民党有绝对优势。但是他的政策是建立在损害绝大多数农民的基础上的，而中国是一个农业国，绝大多数人都是农民，国民党的政策促使农民拥护共产党
Chiang Kai-Shek received resources and military expertise from almost every world power at the time; yet, he failed to implement a military training doctrine. Cash Mai-Check lost as many soldier as necessary to continue receiving money.
What we really need now is a video on the battles between the ccp and Republic of china.
Japan still being Denial about all those atrocities
Japan is lucky USA accept their surrender waay before The Red Army invade their mainland
The Red Army had no way of reaching the Japanese mainland due to having an insufficient amount of naval craft to perform such landings, but still Japan is extremely lucky that the US decided to stand them back up instead of razing their country of their natural resources or objects of value especially considering how brutal the Japanese were during the war.
The most devestating period of WW2 is the most overlooked. Glad your giving them recognition
Obsessed with these history videos- you inspired me to also make animated history videos!
Make more Ancient Greece videos!
I feel as the video heavily under represents the KMT and it's efforts.. They also made it seem as the CCP was more popular than the KMT at the time.. which was false? I feel as this video heavily under-represents the Sino Theater.
I glad you have covered this topic as often or not, most schools & history books failed to cover this theater from the Chinese perspective, only covering the USA & Soviet Union perspective.
I would like to see WW2 from either the Vietnamese, Cambodian, Burmese & Singaporean perspective.
When communists, nationalists and warlords all agreed that they were Chinese and of the same race and that they shall fight and die side by side not as enemies, but as brothers against a foreign invading force.
Really glad you opted to cover this stage of the war! And the recent Chinese film “The 800” is a very well done depiction of the battle of Shanghai. Highly recommend.
You forgot that Stilwell was mad at everyone around him when things didn't go his way. Wasn't liked by the British or the Chinese. Chiang also knew the Ichi-go Offensive was going to happen, he tried to get weapons and munitions into his ill equipped southern chinese forces (which was commanded by Long Yun and who Chiang also mistrusted) but Stilwell halted that due to his ego of wanting to take overdue seige of Mityikina even though he hated how they were fighting their for the British to take their colony back. Why focus on helping an imperialist power you hated when China was literally facing annihilation? He blocked it due to vague accusations of Nationalist Chinese embezzlement which is also complicated by the famine in Henan (which saw chinese peasants attack nationalist convoys and steal their american radios). The problem Chiang had was mistrust with his generals but also with his own strategic decisions on where to put more effort in which town. When Ichi go was launched, it was all too late. American based airfileds in china which Stilwell somehow neglected under his command of the China burma india theater were taken fast. The most memorable, for some reason not mentioned, battle during that whole offensive was the siege of Hengyang, the 44 day siege where the Chinese Army withstood the Japanese in an old medieval fort before it was taken, longest siege of a city in the entire Sino japanese war II. It is hard to manage an entire backwards country against a technologically superior japanese army, especially when half your generals aren't really Kuomintang and were Warlords seeking their own interests due to their mistrust of other warlord generals. Of course Chiang never trusted the communists, but they had nothing to do with the majority of fighting in the south or central areas where major pushes were put against the Japanese frontlines.
What i read was the kmt did 99 percent of the fighting and took a somewhat similar portion of casualties. But then again mao as i read forbade offensives and open battles. My opinion is that the ccp was still recovering from virtual annihilation, and couldnt afford open battle, so it took power in rurual areas the overstretched japanese could not control, and tried no to provoke them to avoid being pulverized like the japanese were doing to many kmt soldiers. Makes sense. But thats just my opinion. I know i could be wrong.
@@abcdedfg8340 Yes Mao was very smart for doing that. They couldn't fight with such small numbers so harassing the enemy was the only way to keep themselves strong and the KMT also in check. and claiming that the KMT ran away while the CCP did all the fighting was to keep their public relations in a positive light and degrade their enemies any chance they get for security reasons. It's cruel but he knew what he was doing as far as fighting a war. Running a country however, that was a different story. None of these factions had any intentions of running alongside each other because both sides were absolutist. Ever since Chiang took power after Sun Yat Sen, he wanted to make sure China had no more division, so the warlords and communists had to be rid of in his eyes. It's funny though how close both the CCP and KMT were, some of the same leaders trained in the Whampoa Academy, but broke up due to KMT paranoia that convinced Chiang the communists were plotting a coup against him leading to purge of fellow CCP trainees in Whampoa that got some KMT trainees shaken up. No one knows to this day how true that was.
thank you very much for this video! it provides a great perspective of the sino japanese war and its nice seeing western media talk about it more. in china, every 18th of septemebr, there are still air raid alarms.
Thank God the culture that prevailed in 1945 East Asia was not the suicidal Japanese nor the suicidal Korean culture but the more reasonable Chinese culture. Chinese culture is like the British culture of East Asia. The least extreme one.
2:14 Taiwan is shown as part of China despite being part of Japan since 1895
you mean when japanese occupied a part of china since that year?
Taiwan belongs to Taiwan now.
@@bigredwolf6 no, you need ww3 to do that.
@@bigredwolf6 more like Taiwan province belongs to the republic of china along with some offshore islands of Fujian and Guangdong
@@bigredwolf6Republic of China, but it’s not just Taiwan they also control parts of the Fujian province