Cane and stick fighting from New York city - Thomas Monstery's self-defense for ladies and gentlemen

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  • Опубліковано 16 лис 2024

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  • @russ7928
    @russ7928 10 місяців тому +9

    Love to see your Cane Vids! I can't carry a sword down the street, but the Cane I can take anywhere. I love European martial arts and their conversion to cane self defense, So Thanks! More More More!

    • @OliverJanseps
      @OliverJanseps  10 місяців тому +1

      This is Joy to me 😃
      We definetely will do more cane this year. The methodes are mostly shorter so we will love to have a rush at them, let's see what happend and let me know what do you think about them!
      Btw. I saw your comment in the livechat but then the time was over, so I could not answer.
      You were the first ever used this function here 😊🙏

  • @nor0845
    @nor0845 13 днів тому +1

    Excellent stuff!!
    I used to work in a museum and there were photographic glass slides from the early 1900s of Martial Walking Stick Clubs. The photos were group shots of men in traditional tweed and posing with their (again) traditional, bent handled wood walking sticks. This was obviously quite popular as there were around twenty men in the group.
    Great Channel. Thank you for posting.

    • @OliverJanseps
      @OliverJanseps  13 днів тому

      Thank you very much 🙏
      And thank's for your input 🙂

  • @fredazcarate4818
    @fredazcarate4818 10 місяців тому +2

    You Sir have done justice to the aforementioned gentleman's system. Kudos and I await , with a zeal, your next video lecture on the subject.

    • @OliverJanseps
      @OliverJanseps  10 місяців тому

      I tip my hat to you Sir 🤠

    • @fredazcarate4818
      @fredazcarate4818 9 місяців тому +1

      @@OliverJanseps my hearty thank you to you! No pun intended.

    • @OliverJanseps
      @OliverJanseps  9 місяців тому

      @@fredazcarate4818 I am very thankfull I subscribers like you and others here on this channel.
      I know it's the Internet and it ccould be different 🙃
      Also I hope you liked the second part as well 🤞😉

  • @FightCommentary
    @FightCommentary 10 місяців тому +1

    This is super interesting!

    • @OliverJanseps
      @OliverJanseps  10 місяців тому

      I'm glad you like it 😃
      Spreading the knowledge is one of the reasons this channel exists.

  • @DaveCollins123
    @DaveCollins123 10 місяців тому +1

    Excellent, thank you. Very clear demonstrations.

  • @ChrisRi
    @ChrisRi 5 місяців тому +1

    Thanks for the nice Instruction to fighting with Cane and Stick

    • @OliverJanseps
      @OliverJanseps  5 місяців тому

      You're welcome 🙂
      Cane is like sabre, so many different ways to use it. We will come up with some more.
      Btw. As a polearm guy, do you had an eye on Paschas Jägerstock?

    • @ChrisRi
      @ChrisRi 5 місяців тому

      yes I had but never started to get deep in it because it was a very late source
      @@OliverJanseps

  • @peterjaimez1619
    @peterjaimez1619 10 місяців тому +2

    Thank you! You are able to give life to Monstery's system 👍 I'll be waiting for the next instalment 😀 Also I would like to recommend, again, The "Walking Stick Method of Self-Defence" by an officer of the Indian Police (available in PDF, and kindle) 🤔 , more complete than the little from Colonel Monstery, it uses speed and a very light cane. Finally and again you have very strong 💪 wrists, I have a hickory stick and is too heavy for me. I made with a foil, a "trainer" very light, and beautifully balanced, that I use. Cheers

    • @OliverJanseps
      @OliverJanseps  10 місяців тому

      Thank you very much 🙏
      Yes it was fun working the Monstery cane out (again) I also learned something in the meantime 😉
      At some point we will give the 'walkings stick method [...]' a go also. It is a way more complete, but one has to advocate, that this is an actual book for training useage and the Monstery stuff is from two articles from a newspaper, so it is more am advertisment to find New students.
      Btw. The 'Indian book' uses knobsticks with the heavy end on the striking end, the dynamic it different and the impact also 😎

  • @peterjaimez1619
    @peterjaimez1619 10 місяців тому +1

    Very, very good 👍 point the knob in the cane changes the physics of the movement and also the characteristics of the impact, albeit in figure 4 (and others) a same thickness stick is used for practice. I suppose a bit of leeway is allowed 😁 Keep the good stuff coming😀. Cheers

    • @OliverJanseps
      @OliverJanseps  10 місяців тому

      Yes, of course make it work 👍👍

  • @MrKitty-zv3dl
    @MrKitty-zv3dl 10 місяців тому +1

    I'm from the Bronx, this is pretty funny.

    • @OliverJanseps
      @OliverJanseps  10 місяців тому

      Entertainment is the main point of YT 🙃😉

  • @maca1436
    @maca1436 10 місяців тому +1

    Einem Gentleman den Hut mit einem sauberen Fünfer zu zerschmettern ist in der Tat probat.

    • @OliverJanseps
      @OliverJanseps  10 місяців тому +1

      😂
      Könnte dann eine echte Duelforderung nach sich ziehen 😅

  • @vovanussi
    @vovanussi 6 місяців тому +1

    Great video! Now I understand where you got your wrist training from. but I completely disagree with how it is used according to the instructions. I'm not criticizing you, you're showing everything perfectly. this method leads to increased fatigue and loss of speed. also, a strong opponent's entry will destroy such actions, it has been proven in practice. it is impossible to move the wrist of a person standing strongly on his feet. it is more rational to do all the same actions by rotating in the shoulder, but this requires longer training and therefore is perhaps less rational in terms of spending time and money on training. therefore, the shoulder rotation method has not been proposed for study.

    • @OliverJanseps
      @OliverJanseps  6 місяців тому

      To be honest, this method would also be not my favorite when it comes to a real encounter.
      And I can add other masters of the cane claimed the same and go for more powerfull strikes from the shoulders and body.
      We discover at the moment different fighting styles and methodes for the cane, just to spread some forgotten knowledge and learn some new.
      So thank you for your kind words and to give you an example that we could also do different, you can have a look at this 😉
      ua-cam.com/video/173VZRK1y50/v-deo.html

  • @canadafree2087
    @canadafree2087 10 місяців тому +1

    I like learning history but this seems from a fencing mentality. In actual street attacks, your attackers will not be swinging with wrist strength only. So learn the basic, then modify it for more modern strikes.

    • @OliverJanseps
      @OliverJanseps  10 місяців тому +1

      Yes, this is totalky from a fencing mentality. As he wrote by himself it is taken from the sabre. But this is true for nearly all the old methods as they were taught by fencing masters.
      My Maestro for traditional Italian cane btw. Taught also fast rapid strikes at the (knife) hand by mulinello.
      But yes, today noone will attack you by wrist strikes 🙃
      What do you mean with 'modern' strikes? Or do you just mean strikes used in modern times?

    • @canadafree2087
      @canadafree2087 10 місяців тому +1

      I meant with modern power using shoulders and if more skilled, body weight too.@@OliverJanseps

    • @OliverJanseps
      @OliverJanseps  10 місяців тому

      @@canadafree2087 ah, I see.
      One also find 'full' strikes in other okd systems. The wrist moulinettes are more the exeption from the rule. But this is what makes it interesting.
      We will have a look on other methodes in the future, maybe there is something that fits your image of a usefull method for today more 🙂
      Let me know! But first we have to finish the final part...

  • @xscale
    @xscale 3 місяці тому

    Real fights happen at boxing range, not fencing range. As in boxing, power comes ground up, feet to hips to hands, engaging core. Think Tyson. The cane is a force multiplier via three weapons - two ends and middle. When you swing it or twirl it as done here you lose access to at least two of those weapons, and in reality likely all three.
    Best strategy is always to throw down your wallet and run for your life, but second best is to grip a cane with two hands and apply its weapons to the attacker's body, never their head. Both because heads are smaller targets, and because a head-shot with a cane will cause the attacker injuries that will cause you to spend a fortune on a lawyer. Literally thousands of times more money than you have in your wallet.

    • @OliverJanseps
      @OliverJanseps  3 місяці тому +1

      @@xscale you mix up a lot of stuff in your comment and I would agree on all you say on modern self defense!
      On the other hand you look at weapon fighting from an unarmed basis, the stuff I reffer about does it the other way around.
      But at the end there are more then one way and more then one truth!