After the Porsche Taycan, for me, VW ID3 62KW(58 kW available) is undoubtfully the best, the one who provides a better driving experience and what a good insulation! (vis a vis The Tesla Model 3 that I had, this is much better with the exception of the charging stations). The most charming EV in the Market. Great music by the way!
Hi Chris, I totally agree. During my time as a Car Guy, I drove a lot of BMWs, the ID.3 drives more like a BMW than a VW. Better than a BMW in some features. So the switch from BMW to the ID.3 was not difficult for me and I grew to love it.
I totally agree with your rear-wheel drive (RWD) remark. I am glad that VW determined to return to its original root (Beetle and Microbus were RWD) by making the MEB platform 100% RWD and RWD-biased AWD. Plus, RWD is more cool and fun to drive than FWD.
Would you prefer the RWD biased AWD over RWD for the extra buck? The larger sized skoda sibling (enyaq) is built on the same platform. The AWD will come later this year and expected price bump will be a bit north of 2000 euro (2.500 dollar)
I completely agree with everything you said! All points are very valid, but the most in underrated point in general is (imo) nr. 4. The turning circle is just amazing, and you have no idea what it means unless you've driven it. But here in the Netherlands, with pretty cramped parking spaces in some place, and parallel parking (which I do every day in front of my house) it is just amazing. Also: I was wondering if you were gonna make this video, after the "7 dislike" video 🤣
People have got used to front wheel drive and their terrible turning circle, rear wheel drive always is better as they don't have those constant velocity joints that won't bend past a certain angle.
As a fellow Dutchie I agree. Had to get the hang of it. It's soooo much easier to park now that it was actually difficult at first, simply because I didn't expect it to be that easy.... if that makes any sense. Had to get used to it, but now? 'Fileparkeren' with just one time backwards, one time forwards. And, done! 😁
After 13000 km total driving i got the 2.0 software installed and the AR-HUD is fantastic. I also like the travel assist, and the electric seat's sittingposition. The car is fantastic, my only bad opinion was the first buggy software.
Additions to your list: I love the spacious, open cabin very much. Now I really feel cramped in „regular“ cars. Also the winter performance is amazing. The car supports driving exceptionally well when the roads are slippery. I never felt so safe when driving in winter.
@@dennisbjergmadsen5163 not all of them, many don’t heat up the battery as much as the ID.3. The problem with the ID.3 is that it heats the battery to 13ºC as soon as you start moving, that results in high consumption for a few minutes, and for short distances the battery may be heating for the whole trip, wasting a lot of energy to heat up a battery that in reality didn’t need to be heated.
Love the negative and positive videos Chris, thanks! Shared both to the UK owners group on Facebook. My personal favourite has to be the matrix headlights - I struggle with night vision after an issue 25 years ago and just LOVE how much better night driving is for me now!
I just noticed a light on the inside of the outside mirror. This indicates when a car is on your right or left side (and blind spot). I really like that.
I can't believe how much I like the interior lighting - from the ID light down to the floor. I would have been dismissive of it as a gimmick before living with it.
A lot of reviewers are complaining about the extra button for the rear windows. I love that cause in 95% I want to open the front windows. Even after 6 years I regularly opened unintentionally the rear windows of my previous car when I was at the car wash or Drive through.
"not overwhelming power" -- I love this comment. I may be the only one, but I don't want a car that goes from 0-60 mph in 2 secs. I want a good daily driver.
Same for me. Just lately an ICE Bimmer driver was kind of shocked when he lost the acceleration test after the traffic lights against my ID.3. So there’s still enough power for fun, especially with some grim, fuming ICE friends... 😜🤣
I am exactly the same, I didn't go with the ID.3 but ended up with the Honda e, I've had fast cars, I didn't need something snapping my neck back (+ nice easy entry/exit in tight car parks was important to me) and not having a low sitting position (or overly high) If I had an overly fast car I'd be to tempted to use it and end up having a chat with the police at the side of the road 😁
@@borama7845 It probably was a very underpowered BMW. Even a small 125i would smoke the ID3. I’m actually a little bit disappointed with the acceleration of the ID3. I’ve never expected the ID3 to be as fast as my e-Tron, but 7,3 seconds from 0-100 in 2021?
@@lorenzmuller4000 It´s 7.1 seconds from 0-100 for the ID3 more or less the same 6.8 seconds for the E-tron 50, also the range is similar, 425 kms for the ID3 versus 390 kms for the E-tron 50. ua-cam.com/video/iL4lzVCWN1I/v-deo.html
Really love this car and getting a bit tired of people and certain journalists working hard to make it look bad. They apparently just want Volkswagens EV's to fail or something. Seldomly I heard so much nonsense about a car both from random people and serious journalists as well... Thanks for your honest videos about this car! Keep it up!
Have to thoroughly agree on the Active Matrix headlights. Having had an e-Golf for 2 years, I expected the ID.3 1st Edition Plus (same as you) to be quiet (it is even quieter), to have good acceleration, to be roomy (it is more roomy). I expect that the app, the car will get better functionality as the main software is updated, then as the incremental updates come over the next few years, the integration to even better. The ACC is even better. The auto- headlights, wipers, unlock, hold, all make easy use of the car. I have got the transport hitch installed, though have not used it yet (COVID restrictions) to carry my bicycles. That I could not do with the e-Golf.
I would add the whole heating. My app heating does not work (there is fix but I have not got it yet) so no preheating for me, but when I sit into the car in -25 it will only take minute to be confortable. Heater will start to heat right away, not blowing cold air around as in ICE. Stearingwheel and seats starts to heat nicely. You can take of your cloves right away. BTW the buttons and screen works with cloves. I tested, but I never will drive with cloves on. This is one of those things that is true for most of the electric cars, but I really really like it.
My car dealer, Traktoauto Oy Salo, recommended to reinstall the app (only requires re-login, not new setup). After that remote pre-warming started to work for me with ME2.0, has only failed once since then.
@@chemobejk You got 1st? I have the fastlane model, not 1st, and for that I think there is update (1-2h) that fixes it. Because of corona I'm working from home and don't drive daily so I'm just waiting for big update. Mainly because yesterday again I started in -15 and I did not get far from parking when I was feeling the heating kick in. Another nice plus was when I went shopping and charged. Pushed the "keep heating on" and got back to warm car. That was great!
@@markomaenpaa8552 yeah, mine is a 1st Plus. If you haven't got ME2.0 (0783) then you should go and get it. It's a big update, i.e. 8h, but at least here in Finland everybody gets it without having to ask VW for permission. I doubt that there are different SW releases for 1st, fast lane or regular ID.3's. To be honest I don't think that VW SW engineers would be that stupid to go down that rabbit hole of insanity...
Great video! I’ve a LEAF - for me I like the acceleration (when needed), the seats are super comfy, preheating is amazing and it’s the first car I’ve owned with heated seats and steering wheel which me and my wife love. I’m looking forward to trying out and AWD or RWD EV in the future as the LEAF can get a bit jittery under heavy acceleration 😂
Completely agree on most things, including the very well balanced suspension and the RWD. I don't mind all the FWD feedback at all, but I don't like the understeer accelerating out of a corner and, in a RWD I LOVE the oversteer "gassing" it, so I also decided not to buy another FWD again. Thanks for your comprehensive reviews, mate! 👌
Where I live in Australia we nay get one or two days a year when the minimum temp is below 0C - we are much more concerned about how fast to cool down when the icabin temperature is over 50C which happens when you park in the sun for 6 months of the year😀
I hadn't owned a RWD car for years before I got my 150kW motor / 62kWh battery ID.3 Life Pro Performance. It goes well and is quite fun to drive in all power modes, even ECO. In COMFORT it goes very well indeed overall. In SPORT it even manages to stick its little rear out when accelerating hard out of bends. And the effortless push from that electric motor is very satisfying. So satisfying that I ought to be doing it a bit less. 😋
What I like about my EV is flippers behind the steering wheel for changing the amount of regenerative braking while driving. In the city I set it to maximum but on motorway I set it to low to avoid unnecessary braking.
I much prefer to not using my legs while driving. VW EVs normally have great hand-controls for that (highly controllable adaptive cruise control and regen)... ID.3 lacks the great ergonomics of the e-Golf, Golf GTE and Skoda Enyaq, where you have a wide and solid armrest with toogling of regen right in front of it...
I will love your car or similar when your lease expires in 3 years time and hope I can afford one by then. I wonder what the price will be of a 3 year old used ID3 in 2023?
Great review of what you like to temper the earlier video. What I like about my EV, the charging speed. 50.7kWh in under 13min. 4% to 60% SoC. Manufacturer is also part of VAG. 😏
Are you aware of any tests that show a higher charge speed above 58 % (to be more e-tron like) if you enable the optional 200 kW charge limit? Or is it just a cap without influence on the basic charging curve?
@@abraxastulammo9940 the Taycan drops to 200kW about 30% then halfway then 120kW all the way to 80% then drops to about 85kW. I plan on making a video.
@@ronb4633 The charging curve is well known, see ua-cam.com/video/N6lUY7By8qw/v-deo.html But I would like to know what happens if you press the "limit charging to 200 kW" button with the new software: does it extend the 200 kW charge because the battery doesn't overheat?
Steering feel does indeed mean different things to different people and can vary from car to car of course, tyres etc. The first 10 years of my driving experience was with rear wheel drive. Then I converted to front wheel drive in 1983 and it was a revelation (better). But I was comparing a FWD Ford Escort (notably good in that era) with a RWD Ford Cortina (less good). I have been driving exclusively FWD ever since, and with my Mk7 Golf the steering is fine and hardly affected by torque steer, it is possible to drive with a delicate touch in most conditions I find and I enjoy that. One of the features of modern cars which has changed things a lot I suspect is traction control. One complaint I always had with those RWD Cortinas was that the inside rear wheel would struggle for traction when turning out of junctions, and driving in other difficult conditions. I would expect current day cars with traction control to be far superior now. The ID.3 has a lot of weight to help keep the rear wheels firmly on the ground too. Maybe one day I will convert back to rear wheel drive, with the associated greater purity of feel in all conditions :-)
I have the original classic 28kWh Ioniq. Things I like about it would be efficiency, space including luggage space in rear, fast charging ability(compared to new Ioniq), the tech(compared to what I had in 2003 Nissan) and the safety systems including all the airbags feel much better having my kids in it than my old car.
If you had all wheel drive, then you would lose the smaller turning circle. The front drive shafts have to have CV (constant velocity) joints, and those cannot be turned to as sharp an angle.
5. Agreed, but *NOT* in winter time in Finland on ice/snow roads with spike tires (nastarenkaat). Compared to my old Jetta TDI with front wheel drive it feels less stable or slides/drifts more. Especially ACC should be OFF at any dangerous piece of road, because it does *NOT* take winter conditions into consideration, e.g. more gentle acceleration or longer breaking distance would be required.
i am quite impressed by rear wheel drive in the heavy winter conditions we have right now in the middle of Germany. Creep mode is great for deep snow where other cars has to be pushed
Here in Sweden, four-wheel drive is probably recommended, especially when there is a lot of snow, that someone gets out of the car to push the car from behind is probably no idea because the big electric cars are not easy.
#5: I felt the steering wheel vibrating once or twice, origin is appearantly the heat pump. And I just noticed we have the same numer on the plate :- )
Thanks, totally agree about the strange obsession manufacturers have with acceleration in electric cars, too much you can't use, pointless. Like the exterior but find the interior very disappointing, still take my Niro every day, cheers 🍻👍
Front-wheel drive cars are considered to be better at getting around in snow and ice. That was probably why it was once introduced on ordinary petrol cars? although Saab had front-wheel drive from the start
Hey, I seem to have a problem that I can't find either you, or in comments here or somewhere else. Not in any forum I found either. The problem is the speed of charging. I live in southern Sweden (so weather like Hamburg or Denmark). I charge at Ionity here their 350 kw chargers. The use case : I start to charge at around 20%. Charge speed at around 50-55 kw. (Only once when I was down to 4% did it reach 73 kw) As soon as the battery starts to reach 30-35% the charging speed drops to 35-40 kw. At 65% and above it goes down to 20 kw. I am dependant on these fast chargers (can't charge at home) so the "charge 20-80% in 40 minutes" becomes almost 90 minutes for me. The car is now with the local VW dealer but here in Sweden they basically take my questions and send to VW in Germany so not so sure how much they can help except "maybe wait for the update?" :) Anyone else experienced this? Any advice? Other than that (and that the battery capacity drops ALOT in 0 degrees temp) I love the car!!
Good review, what about battery size. Does VW offer different sizes and range depending how much money you want to spend. I have a 2016 e-Golf SEL. It’s a great car, rides new and sporty looking. Obviously what I don’t like is the limited range. Range! We all know that is everything in a EV. Maybe Aptera will sell their panels for the roof of my car. Prolly. not. I’m looking to trade in my car and considering the Id3/4, or the new Tesla Model 2 or even the XPeng P7 if it sells in FL, USA.. Open to suggestions anyone... No, second was 25 minutes ago....
@@BatteryLife We have also a white steering wheel (white and orange interior) on our ID.3 and we really enjoy this combination, even was a difficult decision at the beginning. It is not difficult keeping clean.
I know I said I would be headed toward a small Tesla when it comes, but I do like the way this looks and will be interested in your comments once you’ve had the big update done. I have looked at both the ID3 and the Tesla M3, but don’t need a car the size of the M3. The price of the new smaller Tesla and its performance (not speed and acceleration, but range and charging speed) comparison will be important. I hope VW crack over the air updates as well. Definitely enjoy your channel. I suspect the Tesla will be €10k cheaper though......
True, if one wants to compare M3 then with an ID4, ID3 is compact class. There's a video here somewhere, when Elon Musk was taking a tour to Berlin and had to notice that Tesla models in general a a bit to big in size to be real practical for the use in a European city. I know the size of parking lots and why I prefer compact class cars.
Some complain about the brakes not being so responsive. Meaning, you have to apply brakes in steps in emergency situation because of regen thing. What is your opinion? Thanks for the video!
I live in hope that they will bring it to the US. ID.4 is too big for my taste. I had a Golf for 12 years and put 150k miles on it. I would expect to drive the ID.3 for that kind of period too. I am guessing it is comfy in the back given that EVs seem to be more roomy than their ICE equivalents.
Hey Chris, how is the ID3 with regards to active driving and traction control / stability control? Can you turn it off, or does the sport-mode make it better? TCS can become very frustrating if you are trying to put down power out of a corner or in the wet!
Firstly i love watching all your videos about ID.3, but got a honest question about buying ID.3: Im waiting for ID.3 with small battery to arrive to my country, but if i look at its prices in Germany ID.3 with small battery might be only 3000€ cheaper than ID.3 1st plus used as test car would it be still wise to go for ID.3 with small battery or should i go for ID.3 1st Plus and try too haggle price down?
Is Torque-Stear still a thing? or is it just in EVs since the maximum tourque is allways available? I don't feel any in my VW Polo GTI which also has 200 HP and 0-60 in 6,7 seconds (which I never tried to achieve or tested ;) ). For me the power is also quite enough :D
There are still platforms shared by EV and combustion models existing, e.g. BMW Mini or Hyundai Kona. Since the non-EV models are front driven, the EV of the same platforms are also. At best, the tire consumption will rise. I once had a Kona as a rental to make my first experience with an EV. When entering the Autobahn at 80 km/h I pressed the acceleration pedal to the ground to gain speed. The front wheels almost immediately start spinning before ASR came in. I understand the argument of decreased comfort...
There's a feature called Auto Hold, which keeps the car stationary after coming to a complete stop. You just need to press the brake pedal a bit when stopped, which enables the feature. Or you brake more softly and you can get the car moving by easing up on the brake pedal.
Has anyone with 0738 figured out how to schedule a charge to happen at certain times to use cheaper electricity? I’ve only managed to set departure times so not maximising my cheaper overnight home electric!
You were a bit unkind listing only 7 things. I guess you are going to make another video listing the other 100 things you like. Dont forget to mention panel gaps, paint finish, permanent roof, waterproof boot lit, indicator stalk that stays in position, grab handles at the top of all doors, shall I make a long list for you?
ID3 is a good car (or will be in the future), but please, get off the Tesla, as any fault of Tesla is overpublished all over the press (sour especially in Germany, as Teslas are the first better US cars than German ones in millenia). This ID3 has unfinished software with buggy app, still no OTA and was in the workshop 4 times. If it was Tesla you would hate it for a next 10 years. And now, just now there is the huge problem with all EV with LG Chem batteries, especially with Leaves, but it will come to ID3 and probably even Teslas from China. These are serious problems like fire and extreme degradation which can result with battery recall! Battery recall! And nobody cares. The faults you mention about Tesla are old FUD - panel gaps are a nuisance incomparable to any of the 7 ID3 faults from the previous video. And now, in current M3s they have perfect paint job and gaps (see Munro). The roof thing was accident of the faulty mounted aftermarket roof rails (it was mounted to the glass). Other issues addressed. Same as will be with ID3. Probably, because we know, that Tesla enhances their cars all the time. We don't know if VW will be the same good.
As far as I’m aware, it handles the snow extremely well, probably due to the fact that it’s an ELECTRIC rear wheel drive: ua-cam.com/video/R8HXFL1Mo2k/v-deo.html
@@BatteryLife so I've now had the privilege of testing an ID3 overall good car but for me not practical I feel that the front was very loose on the road and that in the winter bad weather the car would be difficult to drive and yes I know winter tyres, but here in the UK, they are not mandatory. overall I would feel better if the car had a snow mode like my Tiguan where the throttle response is not so agressive.
Drive it, you'll see what I mean. in Other cars the steering wheel is to light and moves around while driving. When you use power and drive highway. This one is solid. It is a different world!
@@BatteryLife well VW aren't going to pay you to say honest things about their cars if they show up the shortcomings. But as soon as you gush about how wonderful they are well that's worth a contribution to your site from the wonderful fantastically brilliant honest VW (oh I forgot you are German) this was a fun comment, Humor in German.
For me, the 200 hp of my ID.3 feels like a race car. 0-100 km/h in just 7.3 sec. is amazing. I never had a daily driver with such a power.
Talking about the noise level in the ID.3 and how quiet it is while Cannibal Corpse is paused on the stereo. Nice one! 😂
The first one to notice!
After the Porsche Taycan, for me, VW ID3 62KW(58 kW available) is undoubtfully the best, the one who provides a better driving experience and what a good insulation! (vis a vis The Tesla Model 3 that I had, this is much better with the exception of the charging stations). The most charming EV in the Market. Great music by the way!
Really enjoy your balance of what you hate and like. Keep it real
Hi Chris, I totally agree. During my time as a Car Guy, I drove a lot of BMWs, the ID.3 drives more like a BMW than a VW. Better than a BMW in some features. So the switch from BMW to the ID.3 was not difficult for me and I grew to love it.
I totally agree with your rear-wheel drive (RWD) remark. I am glad that VW determined to return to its original root (Beetle and Microbus were RWD) by making the MEB platform 100% RWD and RWD-biased AWD. Plus, RWD is more cool and fun to drive than FWD.
Would you prefer the RWD biased AWD over RWD for the extra buck? The larger sized skoda sibling (enyaq) is built on the same platform. The AWD will come later this year and expected price bump will be a bit north of 2000 euro (2.500 dollar)
I completely agree with everything you said! All points are very valid, but the most in underrated point in general is (imo) nr. 4. The turning circle is just amazing, and you have no idea what it means unless you've driven it. But here in the Netherlands, with pretty cramped parking spaces in some place, and parallel parking (which I do every day in front of my house) it is just amazing.
Also: I was wondering if you were gonna make this video, after the "7 dislike" video 🤣
People have got used to front wheel drive and their terrible turning circle, rear wheel drive always is better as they don't have those constant velocity joints that won't bend past a certain angle.
As a fellow Dutchie I agree. Had to get the hang of it. It's soooo much easier to park now that it was actually difficult at first, simply because I didn't expect it to be that easy.... if that makes any sense. Had to get used to it, but now? 'Fileparkeren' with just one time backwards, one time forwards. And, done! 😁
After 13000 km total driving i got the 2.0 software installed and the AR-HUD is fantastic. I also like the travel assist, and the electric seat's sittingposition. The car is fantastic, my only bad opinion was the first buggy software.
Additions to your list: I love the spacious, open cabin very much. Now I really feel cramped in „regular“ cars. Also the winter performance is amazing. The car supports driving exceptionally well when the roads are slippery. I never felt so safe when driving in winter.
Except range if you use your car for short distances... winter range is not exactly "exceptional", heating the battery takes too much power.
@@Gresteh that goes for all EV’s at winter. Remember this one has no heatpump either.
@@dennisbjergmadsen5163 not all of them, many don’t heat up the battery as much as the ID.3. The problem with the ID.3 is that it heats the battery to 13ºC as soon as you start moving, that results in high consumption for a few minutes, and for short distances the battery may be heating for the whole trip, wasting a lot of energy to heat up a battery that in reality didn’t need to be heated.
Love the negative and positive videos Chris, thanks! Shared both to the UK owners group on Facebook. My personal favourite has to be the matrix headlights - I struggle with night vision after an issue 25 years ago and just LOVE how much better night driving is for me now!
In California anxiously awaiting my AWD ID4. Your show is very helpful. Thank you
I just noticed a light on the inside of the outside mirror. This indicates when a car is on your right or left side (and blind spot).
I really like that.
My plus does not have blind spot warning
I think it can push you back to avoid collision.
I fully agree with you about suspension, steering and RWD feeling.
That´s so true. A very good ride and not a single failure since I bought it in late 2020
I can't believe how much I like the interior lighting - from the ID light down to the floor. I would have been dismissive of it as a gimmick before living with it.
Thanks for all the videos! Will pick mine up on Monday :-D
I just got my id.3 and I love it so much. I want to drive it 100 meters to shop
A lot of reviewers are complaining about the extra button for the rear windows. I love that cause in 95% I want to open the front windows. Even after 6 years I regularly opened unintentionally the rear windows of my previous car when I was at the car wash or Drive through.
Thank you for both the things you like AND don’t like
"not overwhelming power" -- I love this comment. I may be the only one, but I don't want a car that goes from 0-60 mph in 2 secs. I want a good daily driver.
Same for me. Just lately an ICE Bimmer driver was kind of shocked when he lost the acceleration test after the traffic lights against my ID.3. So there’s still enough power for fun, especially with some grim, fuming ICE friends... 😜🤣
I am exactly the same, I didn't go with the ID.3 but ended up with the Honda e, I've had fast cars, I didn't need something snapping my neck back (+ nice easy entry/exit in tight car parks was important to me) and not having a low sitting position (or overly high) If I had an overly fast car I'd be to tempted to use it and end up having a chat with the police at the side of the road 😁
I think those numbers are really don't relevant in the real world (below a certain point) and are for people who are into ... comparisons
@@borama7845 It probably was a very underpowered BMW. Even a small 125i would smoke the ID3. I’m actually a little bit disappointed with the acceleration of the ID3. I’ve never expected the ID3 to be as fast as my e-Tron, but 7,3 seconds from 0-100 in 2021?
@@lorenzmuller4000 It´s 7.1 seconds from 0-100 for the ID3 more or less the same 6.8 seconds for the E-tron 50, also the range is similar, 425 kms for the ID3 versus 390 kms for the E-tron 50.
ua-cam.com/video/iL4lzVCWN1I/v-deo.html
Really love this car and getting a bit tired of people and certain journalists working hard to make it look bad. They apparently just want Volkswagens EV's to fail or something. Seldomly I heard so much nonsense about a car both from random people and serious journalists as well... Thanks for your honest videos about this car! Keep it up!
Have to thoroughly agree on the Active Matrix headlights. Having had an e-Golf for 2 years, I expected the ID.3 1st Edition Plus (same as you) to be quiet (it is even quieter), to have good acceleration, to be roomy (it is more roomy). I expect that the app, the car will get better functionality as the main software is updated, then as the incremental updates come over the next few years, the integration to even better. The ACC is even better. The auto- headlights, wipers, unlock, hold, all make easy use of the car.
I have got the transport hitch installed, though have not used it yet (COVID restrictions) to carry my bicycles. That I could not do with the e-Golf.
I would add the whole heating. My app heating does not work (there is fix but I have not got it yet) so no preheating for me, but when I sit into the car in -25 it will only take minute to be confortable. Heater will start to heat right away, not blowing cold air around as in ICE. Stearingwheel and seats starts to heat nicely. You can take of your cloves right away. BTW the buttons and screen works with cloves. I tested, but I never will drive with cloves on. This is one of those things that is true for most of the electric cars, but I really really like it.
My car dealer, Traktoauto Oy Salo, recommended to reinstall the app (only requires re-login, not new setup). After that remote pre-warming started to work for me with ME2.0, has only failed once since then.
You must use different gloves then I do, because some buttons on the steering wheel don't work well with gloves on. E.g. ACC Set.
BTW: Finnish ID.3s have heat pump as standard option, which probably explains the fast warm up speed.
@@chemobejk You got 1st? I have the fastlane model, not 1st, and for that I think there is update (1-2h) that fixes it. Because of corona I'm working from home and don't drive daily so I'm just waiting for big update. Mainly because yesterday again I started in -15 and I did not get far from parking when I was feeling the heating kick in. Another nice plus was when I went shopping and charged. Pushed the "keep heating on" and got back to warm car. That was great!
@@markomaenpaa8552 yeah, mine is a 1st Plus.
If you haven't got ME2.0 (0783) then you should go and get it. It's a big update, i.e. 8h, but at least here in Finland everybody gets it without having to ask VW for permission.
I doubt that there are different SW releases for 1st, fast lane or regular ID.3's. To be honest I don't think that VW SW engineers would be that stupid to go down that rabbit hole of insanity...
Great video! I’ve a LEAF - for me I like the acceleration (when needed), the seats are super comfy, preheating is amazing and it’s the first car I’ve owned with heated seats and steering wheel which me and my wife love. I’m looking forward to trying out and AWD or RWD EV in the future as the LEAF can get a bit jittery under heavy acceleration 😂
I like your positiv likes 😀
I'm gonna take delivery of mine next Tuesday. Can't wait!
Completely agree on most things, including the very well balanced suspension and the RWD. I don't mind all the FWD feedback at all, but I don't like the understeer accelerating out of a corner and, in a RWD I LOVE the oversteer "gassing" it, so I also decided not to buy another FWD again.
Thanks for your comprehensive reviews, mate! 👌
So true about rear wheel drive, I drove my wife's mini recently and had to check the tyres were fully inflated because the steering felt so 'heavy'!
We have the ID3 Tech......and I find all your positive Point 100% like you👍👏😳... nice Video 👌
Where I live in Australia we nay get one or two days a year when the minimum temp is below 0C - we are much more concerned about how fast to cool down when the icabin temperature is over 50C which happens when you park in the sun for 6 months of the year😀
I hadn't owned a RWD car for years before I got my 150kW motor / 62kWh battery ID.3 Life Pro Performance. It goes well and is quite fun to drive in all power modes, even ECO. In COMFORT it goes very well indeed overall. In SPORT it even manages to stick its little rear out when accelerating hard out of bends. And the effortless push from that electric motor is very satisfying. So satisfying that I ought to be doing it a bit less. 😋
Thanks for the ID 3 videos. Very helpful!
I'm tempted to move up from an e-Golf 😁
What I like about my EV is flippers behind the steering wheel for changing the amount of regenerative braking while driving. In the city I set it to maximum but on motorway I set it to low to avoid unnecessary braking.
If I drive a korean I always keeo it in full. I can control the regen with the accelerator anyway. One pedal driving.
I much prefer to not using my legs while driving. VW EVs normally have great hand-controls for that (highly controllable adaptive cruise control and regen)... ID.3 lacks the great ergonomics of the e-Golf, Golf GTE and Skoda Enyaq, where you have a wide and solid armrest with toogling of regen right in front of it...
I will love your car or similar when your lease expires in 3 years time and hope I can afford one by then. I wonder what the price will be of a 3 year old used ID3 in 2023?
Just subtract all the leasing payments and allow for a little profit...
Very nice video and great points! I had not considered that about RWD. My FWD FIAT 500e does like to keep things interesting!
Great review of what you like to temper the earlier video.
What I like about my EV, the charging speed. 50.7kWh in under 13min. 4% to 60% SoC. Manufacturer is also part of VAG. 😏
Are you aware of any tests that show a higher charge speed above 58 % (to be more e-tron like) if you enable the optional 200 kW charge limit?
Or is it just a cap without influence on the basic charging curve?
@@abraxastulammo9940 the Taycan drops to 200kW about 30% then halfway then 120kW all the way to 80% then drops to about 85kW. I plan on making a video.
@@ronb4633 The charging curve is well known, see ua-cam.com/video/N6lUY7By8qw/v-deo.html
But I would like to know what happens if you press the "limit charging to 200 kW" button with the new software: does it extend the 200 kW charge because the battery doesn't overheat?
@@abraxastulammo9940 good question, I don’t have that software as mine is a 2020 and they have not pushed that update there yet.
So maybe ordering the ID.3 wasn’t a mistake after all ;-)
For a second i read "7 strings", if you know what i mean 😉 Cool video!
Steering feel does indeed mean different things to different people and can vary from car to car of course, tyres etc.
The first 10 years of my driving experience was with rear wheel drive. Then I converted to front wheel drive in 1983 and it was a revelation (better). But I was comparing a FWD Ford Escort (notably good in that era) with a RWD Ford Cortina (less good). I have been driving exclusively FWD ever since, and with my Mk7 Golf the steering is fine and hardly affected by torque steer, it is possible to drive with a delicate touch in most conditions I find and I enjoy that.
One of the features of modern cars which has changed things a lot I suspect is traction control. One complaint I always had with those RWD Cortinas was that the inside rear wheel would struggle for traction when turning out of junctions, and driving in other difficult conditions. I would expect current day cars with traction control to be far superior now. The ID.3 has a lot of weight to help keep the rear wheels firmly on the ground too. Maybe one day I will convert back to rear wheel drive, with the associated greater purity of feel in all conditions :-)
VW needs to pay you for this review
I have the original classic 28kWh Ioniq. Things I like about it would be efficiency, space including luggage space in rear, fast charging ability(compared to new Ioniq), the tech(compared to what I had in 2003 Nissan) and the safety systems including all the airbags feel much better having my kids in it than my old car.
If you had all wheel drive, then you would lose the smaller turning circle. The front drive shafts have to have CV (constant velocity) joints, and those cannot be turned to as sharp an angle.
Hi, nice reviews. In a future video, could you review the lane assist feature?
Nothing to review. You go over the line, it beeps and pulls you back.
5. Agreed, but *NOT* in winter time in Finland on ice/snow roads with spike tires (nastarenkaat).
Compared to my old Jetta TDI with front wheel drive it feels less stable or slides/drifts more.
Especially ACC should be OFF at any dangerous piece of road, because it does *NOT* take winter conditions into consideration, e.g. more gentle acceleration or longer breaking distance would be required.
You know you can set the acc in eco or comfort mode when you set drive mode individual
@@BatteryLife I only drive in Eco mode, so it should be the "softest" available?
The ACC act's a bit smother if you use individual setting and put acc in eco.
i am quite impressed by rear wheel drive in the heavy winter conditions we have right now in the middle of Germany. Creep mode is great for deep snow where other cars has to be pushed
Here in Sweden, four-wheel drive is probably recommended, especially when there is a lot of snow, that someone gets out of the car to push the car from behind is probably no idea because the big electric cars are not easy.
#5: I felt the steering wheel vibrating once or twice, origin is appearantly the heat pump. And I just noticed we have the same numer on the plate :- )
I have no heatpump, nothing vibrating.
Thanks, totally agree about the strange obsession manufacturers have with acceleration in electric cars, too much you can't use, pointless.
Like the exterior but find the interior very disappointing, still take my Niro every day, cheers 🍻👍
Front-wheel drive cars are considered to be better at getting around in snow and ice. That was probably why it was once introduced on ordinary petrol cars? although Saab had front-wheel drive from the start
Hey, I seem to have a problem that I can't find either you, or in comments here or somewhere else. Not in any forum I found either.
The problem is the speed of charging. I live in southern Sweden (so weather like Hamburg or Denmark). I charge at Ionity here their 350 kw chargers.
The use case :
I start to charge at around 20%. Charge speed at around 50-55 kw. (Only once when I was down to 4% did it reach 73 kw)
As soon as the battery starts to reach 30-35% the charging speed drops to 35-40 kw.
At 65% and above it goes down to 20 kw.
I am dependant on these fast chargers (can't charge at home) so the "charge 20-80% in 40 minutes" becomes almost 90 minutes for me.
The car is now with the local VW dealer but here in Sweden they basically take my questions and send to VW in Germany so not so sure how much they can help except "maybe wait for the update?" :)
Anyone else experienced this? Any advice? Other than that (and that the battery capacity drops ALOT in 0 degrees temp) I love the car!!
Video coming tomorrow!
Good review, what about battery size. Does VW offer different sizes and range depending how much money you want to spend.
I have a 2016 e-Golf SEL. It’s a great car, rides new and sporty looking. Obviously what I don’t like is the limited range. Range! We all know that is everything in a EV. Maybe Aptera will sell their panels for the roof of my car. Prolly. not.
I’m looking to trade in my car and considering the Id3/4, or the new Tesla Model 2 or even the XPeng P7 if it sells in FL, USA.. Open to suggestions anyone...
No, second was 25 minutes ago....
High five, a 2015 SEL too. Yes, there are 3 batteries to choose from.
Yes, 45, 58 and 77 kWh.
77 kWh battery has city range of 750 km according to WLTP (obviously not in winter).
How is the steering wheel in white? Does it get dirty after a while? Is it easy to clean?
It does not get dirty and I have cleaning whipes.
@@BatteryLife We have also a white steering wheel (white and orange interior) on our ID.3 and we really enjoy this combination, even was a difficult decision at the beginning. It is not difficult keeping clean.
I know I said I would be headed toward a small Tesla when it comes, but I do like the way this looks and will be interested in your comments once you’ve had the big update done. I have looked at both the ID3 and the Tesla M3, but don’t need a car the size of the M3. The price of the new smaller Tesla and its performance (not speed and acceleration, but range and charging speed) comparison will be important. I hope VW crack over the air updates as well. Definitely enjoy your channel. I suspect the Tesla will be €10k cheaper though......
Don't hope too much. It will not be cheaper at all. And you could wait for too long. Probably you would see ID.1 and ID.2 earlier...
True, if one wants to compare M3 then with an ID4, ID3 is compact class. There's a video here somewhere, when Elon Musk was taking a tour to Berlin and had to notice that Tesla models in general a a bit to big in size to be real practical for the use in a European city. I know the size of parking lots and why I prefer compact class cars.
Some complain about the brakes not being so responsive. Meaning, you have to apply brakes in steps in emergency situation because of regen thing. What is your opinion? Thanks for the video!
It is in the video before this one. The dislike video.
I live in hope that they will bring it to the US. ID.4 is too big for my taste. I had a Golf for 12 years and put 150k miles on it. I would expect to drive the ID.3 for that kind of period too. I am guessing it is comfy in the back given that EVs seem to be more roomy than their ICE equivalents.
Hey Chris, how is the ID3 with regards to active driving and traction control / stability control? Can you turn it off, or does the sport-mode make it better?
TCS can become very frustrating if you are trying to put down power out of a corner or in the wet!
You can pull the fuse for the ESP.
Firstly i love watching all your videos about ID.3, but got a honest question about buying ID.3: Im waiting for ID.3 with small battery to arrive to my country, but if i look at its prices in Germany ID.3 with small battery might be only 3000€ cheaper than ID.3 1st plus used as test car would it be still wise to go for ID.3 with small battery or should i go for ID.3 1st Plus and try too haggle price down?
Is Torque-Stear still a thing? or is it just in EVs since the maximum tourque is allways available?
I don't feel any in my VW Polo GTI which also has 200 HP and 0-60 in 6,7 seconds (which I never tried to achieve or tested ;) ).
For me the power is also quite enough :D
There are still platforms shared by EV and combustion models existing, e.g. BMW Mini or Hyundai Kona. Since the non-EV models are front driven, the EV of the same platforms are also. At best, the tire consumption will rise. I once had a Kona as a rental to make my first experience with an EV. When entering the Autobahn at 80 km/h I pressed the acceleration pedal to the ground to gain speed. The front wheels almost immediately start spinning before ASR came in. I understand the argument of decreased comfort...
Even Teslas with RWD (SR+) drive better then AWD (yes, the Performance). They are less quick, but have better handling.
It better than a Tesla model 3 from China!
Does it creep at low speeds when you take your foot off the brake, like a car with an automatic transmission?
Yes.
There's a feature called Auto Hold, which keeps the car stationary after coming to a complete stop. You just need to press the brake pedal a bit when stopped, which enables the feature. Or you brake more softly and you can get the car moving by easing up on the brake pedal.
Is it the 19” loen winter wheels ? Or 20”
19
Has anyone with 0738 figured out how to schedule a charge to happen at certain times to use cheaper electricity? I’ve only managed to set departure times so not maximising my cheaper overnight home electric!
Feature will be working as planned in the Id Software.
@@BatteryLife thanks for replying - it will be the next update where it works? Thanks!
I hope so.
Can you pre heat the id.3 without it charging?
Yes
Cheers
You were a bit unkind listing only 7 things. I guess you are going to make another video listing the other 100 things you like. Dont forget to mention panel gaps, paint finish, permanent roof, waterproof boot lit, indicator stalk that stays in position, grab handles at the top of all doors, shall I make a long list for you?
ID3 is a good car (or will be in the future), but please, get off the Tesla, as any fault of Tesla is overpublished all over the press (sour especially in Germany, as Teslas are the first better US cars than German ones in millenia). This ID3 has unfinished software with buggy app, still no OTA and was in the workshop 4 times. If it was Tesla you would hate it for a next 10 years. And now, just now there is the huge problem with all EV with LG Chem batteries, especially with Leaves, but it will come to ID3 and probably even Teslas from China. These are serious problems like fire and extreme degradation which can result with battery recall! Battery recall! And nobody cares. The faults you mention about Tesla are old FUD - panel gaps are a nuisance incomparable to any of the 7 ID3 faults from the previous video. And now, in current M3s they have perfect paint job and gaps (see Munro). The roof thing was accident of the faulty mounted aftermarket roof rails (it was mounted to the glass). Other issues addressed. Same as will be with ID3. Probably, because we know, that Tesla enhances their cars all the time. We don't know if VW will be the same good.
How does the rear wheel drive handle in the snow?
We don't have too much.
As far as I’m aware, it handles the snow extremely well, probably due to the fact that it’s an ELECTRIC rear wheel drive:
ua-cam.com/video/R8HXFL1Mo2k/v-deo.html
What height are you, also how do you find the raised floor it feels a bit strange as a Tiguan Driver
180cm, never drove a tiguan. I do not like to sit too low, so for me it is perfect.
@@BatteryLife so I've now had the privilege of testing an ID3 overall good car but for me not practical I feel that the front was very loose on the road and that in the winter bad weather the car would be difficult to drive and yes I know winter tyres, but here in the UK, they are not mandatory. overall I would feel better if the car had a snow mode like my Tiguan where the throttle response is not so agressive.
Good job, I subscribe to the same things.
Can u turn th esc off?
Only by taking out a fuse.
Why the damn music
So it has a really good steering wheel then🙄
Drive it, you'll see what I mean. in Other cars the steering wheel is to light and moves around while driving. When you use power and drive highway.
This one is solid. It is a different world!
@@BatteryLife yeah have driven. Not a bad car. Good seats
second!
first!
VW cheque in the post
I make a dislike video, all is cool.
But when I make a like video, I am suddenly paid by VW?
I doubt it and I agree 100 with Chris and yes I own an ID.3 not everything is perfect far from it but I jus love the car for similar reasons :D
@@BatteryLife Your sincerity and honesty are obvious to us. On top of that the things you say match up with what others say.
@@BatteryLife well VW aren't going to pay you to say honest things about their cars if they show up the shortcomings. But as soon as you gush about how wonderful they are well that's worth a contribution to your site from the wonderful fantastically brilliant honest VW (oh I forgot you are German) this was a fun comment, Humor in German.
@@tomquimby8669 god forbid someone actually likes a thing they spent their money on and wants to share their enthusiasm about it with other people.