I am not sure but why compare this shoe to other "better" alternatives of which none carries the same drop of 4 millimeters? There is a reason that a daily max-cushioned trainer has a lower drop, and that is for instance because you should have variety in your rotation to strengthen different muscles / joints and become a stronger, better runner. In this case, a 4mm drop allows you to work your calves / ankles more, which is crucial to not end up with achilles tendonitis, for instance. If we did all our runs in 8-12mm drop shoes with a carbon plate, not only would you understimulate your calves / ankles severly, you also put a lot of strain on your knees / hips, as you would not have any type of variation in your runs, as race, speedwork as well as slow miles would be done in a shoe with same characteristics. I am honestly surprised this is not taken into account more frequently in shoe reviews. You cannot compare Endorphin Shift 3 which is a 4mm drop shoe with Saucony Triumph, which is a 10mm drop shoe. They are very different shoes and both fill its function, depending on desired outcome, type of runner, type of other shoes in rotation, etc. Would be nice to see drop to be included when brining up "similar" or "competitor" shoes.
Lots of great deals on the Shift 2 right now, even less than half price which was tempting... that is until I tried the Triumph 20 and instantly fell in love !!!😍
I went with the Triumph 20 to replace my Shift 2, mostly because it wasn’t released yet at the time, but I absolutely DON’T regret it at all. It was a welcome difference.
@@DarkKoffeewhich did you go with? I was pretty set on the Shift 3, but now I’m uncertain. I’m training for my first marathon, but I’ve done shorter distance Tris before. Also more muscular than a typical runner (190lbs usually)
I was looking for a max cush shoe and went with the Shift V3. After 53 miles so far so good. It feels great on easy miles and good for steady/easy miles. With the stack I would be surprised if I don't bring the to 400 miles.
The shift is a fine shoe. I liked the Tempo a bit more. And then I tried on the Speed 3. Was just looking for a daily trainer- but the Speed 3 was just so much bouncier, cushier, and every bit as supportive- none of the shoes without the supercritical foam hold a candle. And the Pro 3 is now in a whole other category - up there or maybe better than the vapor or alphafly
I'm sounding like a stuck record, I use the Speed 3 for all my easy runs as it works so well and can also shift up a gear for speed training and even racing. It's as comfy as any shoe I've worn and just a joy to run in, then I have the Pro 3 for racing
I tried these on at the store. Seems a bit firm under foot for me, particularly in the heel, better under the ball of the foot. The upper fit very snugly, very comfy.
Managed to snag a pair of Invincible 2 at nearly 40% off, to eat up miles in my upcoming spring marathon. I think Saucony should look to merge the Shift (4) and the Tempus into the same shoe and keep it in the Endorphin line for the 4th iteration.
I think I’m starting to prefer a little less shoe on long easy runs - currently in the ASICS Glideride 3 which is plenty comfortable and rolls through the miles well but think I might quite like the Evoride a bit more (will look for a bargain pair!)
I would appreciate it if you found someone who is a bit on the larger side to give their verdict on running trainers. I feel like you're missing a trick.
Guys, sounds like Saucony missed the mark with the Shift 3... should the Shift 4 be Saucony's version of a Superblast or New Balances SC Trainer? Leave the Triumph to compete with Nimbus, Magnify/Velocity, Invincible.... Surely as an Endorphin option it should differ from the Triumph by a) having speed roll tech b) is clesrly lighter ... for long distance tempo.
Why should i get a versatile shoe, when i can have this plus a faster shoe in rotation? For me, the fact that this shoe is speciallised for easy kilometers is a big plus. You buy this shoe to give your feet a break from fast sessions with firm and thin shoes. I love how the heel stays securely in the middle. Also the low drop is a necessity for me.
I prefer 4 mm drop and am on 3rd pair of shift1 with 700 miles and 600 miles on first 2. Only fifty miles on shift3 with the updates being what I wanted. I also think Speed 1 and 2 are over rated probably because I mostly am a forefoot striker.
This Saucony seems to be a high cushioning shoe that you would buy because you liked the design rather then if it is better or not versus other cushioning shoes. At least it looks fancy and speedy.
Funny how the Person who likes the shoe, doesnt bend the shoe as much at the toes as the others do. Maybe it depends on the running style and the actual usage of the rolling geometry.
I can’t get on with these. So slow. Just feels like you’re running in mattresses. They’re really hard work to run in. I feel like I’m fighting again them
The only reason I bought these is only because it is in my preferred drop 4mm in a cushioned model. Other than that, this is a dead foam with zero response. Such a slow shoe that works against the runner. A terrible fail on Saucony’s part, a complete waste of my money.
I've clocked over 300k in these with no issues .. a real do it all trainer .. . found no problem when getting a good fast pace on too !!
I am not sure but why compare this shoe to other "better" alternatives of which none carries the same drop of 4 millimeters? There is a reason that a daily max-cushioned trainer has a lower drop, and that is for instance because you should have variety in your rotation to strengthen different muscles / joints and become a stronger, better runner. In this case, a 4mm drop allows you to work your calves / ankles more, which is crucial to not end up with achilles tendonitis, for instance. If we did all our runs in 8-12mm drop shoes with a carbon plate, not only would you understimulate your calves / ankles severly, you also put a lot of strain on your knees / hips, as you would not have any type of variation in your runs, as race, speedwork as well as slow miles would be done in a shoe with same characteristics. I am honestly surprised this is not taken into account more frequently in shoe reviews. You cannot compare Endorphin Shift 3 which is a 4mm drop shoe with Saucony Triumph, which is a 10mm drop shoe. They are very different shoes and both fill its function, depending on desired outcome, type of runner, type of other shoes in rotation, etc. Would be nice to see drop to be included when brining up "similar" or "competitor" shoes.
Lots of great deals on the Shift 2 right now, even less than half price which was tempting... that is until I tried the Triumph 20 and instantly fell in love !!!😍
I went with the Triumph 20 to replace my Shift 2, mostly because it wasn’t released yet at the time, but I absolutely DON’T regret it at all. It was a welcome difference.
I’ve been a huge fan of Triumph 20 and been wanting to change to Shift 3. Thanks for your helpful comment!
@@DarkKoffeewhich did you go with? I was pretty set on the Shift 3, but now I’m uncertain. I’m training for my first marathon, but I’ve done shorter distance Tris before. Also more muscular than a typical runner (190lbs usually)
1:58 nick getting cutoff by the intro 😂great video nonetheless and keep up the great reviews :)!
I was looking for a max cush shoe and went with the Shift V3. After 53 miles so far so good. It feels great on easy miles and good for steady/easy miles. With the stack I would be surprised if I don't bring the to 400 miles.
Thanks for your honest reviews on the shoe. I've always enjoyed the Triumph line so will happily stick to it.
I love this shoe! It’s been amazing during my base building.
The shift is a fine shoe. I liked the Tempo a bit more. And then I tried on the Speed 3. Was just looking for a daily trainer- but the Speed 3 was just so much bouncier, cushier, and every bit as supportive- none of the shoes without the supercritical foam hold a candle. And the Pro 3 is now in a whole other category - up there or maybe better than the vapor or alphafly
I currently run in the More v3 and the Novablast 3. The More v3 has a really smooth heel to toe transition.
I'm sounding like a stuck record, I use the Speed 3 for all my easy runs as it works so well and can also shift up a gear for speed training and even racing. It's as comfy as any shoe I've worn and just a joy to run in, then I have the Pro 3 for racing
The speed 3 really is that good though, you’re not wrong.
I tried these on at the store. Seems a bit firm under foot for me, particularly in the heel, better under the ball of the foot. The upper fit very snugly, very comfy.
Thanks for honest reviews.
Managed to snag a pair of Invincible 2 at nearly 40% off, to eat up miles in my upcoming spring marathon. I think Saucony should look to merge the Shift (4) and the Tempus into the same shoe and keep it in the Endorphin line for the 4th iteration.
I think I’m starting to prefer a little less shoe on long easy runs - currently in the ASICS Glideride 3 which is plenty comfortable and rolls through the miles well but think I might quite like the Evoride a bit more (will look for a bargain pair!)
have you considered Hoka Mach 3?
I would appreciate it if you found someone who is a bit on the larger side to give their verdict on running trainers. I feel like you're missing a trick.
Agreed.
Guys, sounds like Saucony missed the mark with the Shift 3... should the Shift 4 be Saucony's version of a Superblast or New Balances SC Trainer? Leave the Triumph to compete with Nimbus, Magnify/Velocity, Invincible....
Surely as an Endorphin option it should differ from the Triumph by a) having speed roll tech b) is clesrly lighter ... for long distance tempo.
Why should i get a versatile shoe, when i can have this plus a faster shoe in rotation? For me, the fact that this shoe is speciallised for easy kilometers is a big plus. You buy this shoe to give your feet a break from fast sessions with firm and thin shoes.
I love how the heel stays securely in the middle. Also the low drop is a necessity for me.
They said it in the review, the Triumph is simply a better choice for that purpose...
I prefer 4 mm drop and am on 3rd pair of shift1 with 700 miles and 600 miles on first 2. Only fifty miles on shift3 with the updates being what I wanted.
I also think Speed 1 and 2 are over rated probably because I mostly am a forefoot striker.
This Saucony seems to be a high cushioning shoe that you would buy because you liked the design rather then if it is better or not versus other cushioning shoes. At least it looks fancy and speedy.
This shoe is much better for larger runners. I think they would do better having different sized runners try the shoes.
Compare with glideride 3?
ASICS Glideride 3 is plated and a different shoe from Saucony shift 3 in terms of geometries.
@@wonkydonkey7899 for long runs?
@@nicklas6973 they both are good long run shoes, but Saucony shift 3 is more ideal for an easy, recovery run.
Is this shoe really needed?
What's better for 50 dollars - shift 3 or ride 15?
shift 3 (though would say Ride 15 if you do a lot of track work)
Thanks
Shoes with plates have ruined people's perception of normal running shoes
can the shoe take marathons?
easily, not a fast shoe but max cushioned - I'd put 100mi in them before doing a marathon to get used to it.
Funny how the Person who likes the shoe, doesnt bend the shoe as much at the toes as the others do. Maybe it depends on the running style and the actual usage of the rolling geometry.
It is a nicer looking shoe than the Speed and Pro, if nothing else.
Almost nobody running properly in this review
Nice
I can’t get on with these. So slow. Just feels like you’re running in mattresses. They’re really hard work to run in. I feel like I’m fighting again them
Agree with true to size. Also very sexy on my feet.
He totally pronounced the shoe wrong 😵💫
The only reason I bought these is only because it is in my preferred drop 4mm in a cushioned model. Other than that, this is a dead foam with zero response. Such a slow shoe that works against the runner. A terrible fail on Saucony’s part, a complete waste of my money.
Other than speed nad pro i ahve no idea what the other saucony shoes are for lol