It's been a while since I watched a long format video. I'm glad I did, this was genuinely a great story! Uhh... Also has nothing to do with the fact I drew Bagel-Chan for you. :)
If anyone's wondering, Wolflover007 is still on the internet as k1mmyk4t or she was. She hasn't posted to any of her accounts since 2021. She still used Sauken as a character actually! She also mentioned graduating Grad school.
the animation, lighting, and shading in those last few scenes of nyan neko sugar girls' last episode are genuinely phenomenal, like the lighting and color usage in the festival stills are beautiful (also great video, made me cry a few times)
happy my video could have such an emotional response in you! first time ive gotten comments saying a video of mine made them cry but it makes me proud. thank you!
20:17 the dark haired "OC" with the red dress is actually a fanmade design for the vocaloid Prima. Like Miku, but in english, released after her and developed for operas.
Hi! I'm not sure if you'll see this but I was the one who created Koneko-chans Murder mystery! I never thought it would get attention like this so I'm really surprised 😭 I made it over the summer as a joke but I'm glad to see you enjoyed it :)
i remember hearing a theory that the voice ‘actures’ are actually just the same person with the audio being pitched/edited in some way. theres a nightcore version of hitoshi san singing hips dont lie and someone pointed out how his voice seemed rather feminine when pitched up
ive heard that theory and found it unconvincing :P it seems very technical not only for the time but especially for yoli, who, while deliberately doesnt fix her animation and audio errors, nonetheless also doesnt seem to be technically proficient. this clashes with how bloody *good* the pitch shifting would have to be to sound so realistic. its just a lotta hoops to jump through compared to the easier theory of "there are multiple VAs". for comparison, mayonakas hitoshi VA is *actually* a womans voice pitch shifted, and its immediately obvious
@@Crunchybagels it's something even a total amateur could do in like 2 minutes in audacity (which has been around for like, 20 years), if you pitch hitoshi's voice up a tad it's a lot more obvious it's just yoli chan pitching her voice down (compare and contrast with other characters, in particular koneko chan and vet sama). i think hitoshi sounding relatively convincing could be either a stroke of dumb luck or actual skill, but i'm inclined to lean towards the former. haven't tested this out with bokutachi san but i think it is most likely everyone is voiced by yoli chan and maybe a friend of hers (though who this could be remains a mystery)
The ms paint artstyle is a decoy only for the troll element and it is obvious in the later episodes. You can see that for exactly one frame that the show actually using layers 🤣. In the final episode they even use visual effects for Raku's nightmare. SoapOpera knew exactly what she was doing and it is glorious.
To be fair, we knew she had photoshop way before Episode 10 even came out. Hell, even before NNSG with the Last Unicorn. Probably drew on MS Paint and edited using Photoshop.
this is more than just a video essay, this now classifies as historical context, many a generation will use this video as the paragon of research for Sugar Neko Girls, you've done sugoi
The TCM mention legit threw me off because I am still friends with the girl who created the series (aswell as I was close friends with two other VAs) and the creator actually is a successful streamer still doing art. Also she does sell a pin of one of her old pieces art (It was the mutant cheeto joke, and that alone is also a higher teir emote on her twitch)
Everyone here needs to look up "Sparkle On Raven: the Life of Drillgirl". It's a tribute to these kinds of series, but done by animators with professional animation experience (which they hide)
this video was a great excuse to simultaneously throw myself at lemon demons older catalogue, wish sky is not blue and dance like an idiot had official instrumentals so bad i wouldve absolutely used em
did not expect a deep dive into fanime more or less! i was kind of a part of that community and yeah, it was basically a bunch of 9-16 year olds drawing in ms paint and painstakingly editing stuff together in windows movie maker. people were uh. very not nice about it! even knowing these were children. we'd often get trolled by 4chan and sent gore and porn :') it sucked. but then sometimes either they or we ourselves would make parody stuff. if you haven't already (and if it still exists) definitely check out Eternal and Illusions Dreams. Those were pretty much classic fanime, with Eternal being one of the most beloved at the time despite having like one and a half episodes or something.
Okay, so I got this video recommended 2 hours ago. I clicked on it thinking "This sounds funny, and I DO enjoy long videos about going increasingly deeper into a rabbit hole I had no interest in prior to watching". The more I watched, the more entertained I was by your explanations and slow (kinda quick, actually) descent into kawaii desu madness. I thought to myself that this video was great, and by the time I finished it, I would give a shallow attempt at comedy and leave a comment where I go "Uwaaah! Watashi very impressed by ur kawaii skills! Ver desu!!!!" and move on with my day. But then, you did something interesting. You did something I could never be ready for after all the twists and turns of trolling section. You had the gall to make me feel things. The AUDACITY to leave words in this video that would peer into my very soul and ask me... "Don't you miss being cringe?" Not the exact wording obviously, but after you went deep into the fact that every single fanime you looked at in this video has passion and soul put into it despite its obvious (sometimes intentional) shortcomings, all I could think was... yeah. I don't necessarily miss my cringey phases back when I was a kid, but I miss being able to express myself. I envy these ms paint abominations in how they're able to exist without worrying about what others will think of them, or in some cases TRYING to get a rise out of people whilst still being unmistakably pure and true to their creator's selves. You have caught me off guard in a video that I thought would be a silly goofy time where I can sit back, relax and laugh at "haha funny mspaint scribble looks bad" but you took this absurd premise and managed to make me think back on myself. No jokey one-off "kawaii desu" comment could ever reflect that. I guess all I wanted to say is good fucking job lmao. Sorry for the world's largest word salad I puked up in here. I hope that, if anything, it shows just how much this video hit me.
Don't be sorry for the long comment, it's well worded essays like yours that are my favorite to read! I'm glad my video affected you that much, and very happy you enjoyed!
glad I have therapy tomorrow. edit: the ending of this vid nearly made me cry. I rly enjoy 'bad' art. makes my heart ache to see people get bullied cause of it
Holy cow, this video honestly surprised me a ton. I was not intending on getting hooked and going down the Fanime rabbithole, but you did such a good job of portraying it. I love it! Genuinely, my favorite video from you, amazing work Desu!
Usually I lurk here since i hate commenting on videos but The Tokyo Crystal Mew section really made me wanna talk about how insane yr improvement has been on this channel, seeing you go from stuff like the Kayzee video to genuine bangers like this and zaregoto 3 is super cool, hope this video does numbers o7
I wish I had found the fanime corner of youtube back then, I was obsessed with those bizarre corners of youtube back in 2009 and would have totally hyperfixated on this junk like it was peak media. Aw I miss those days. May the algorithm bless this video, it is just the type of unhinged that i love. ^0^ >w< xD >.< :3
I’m literally so glad that I was able to experience the early internet days where beginning artists created their own work and upload their stories online. Although the art and story plot lines can be confusing, I think it’s an important step for newer artists or animators to take the initiative and work on something they really enjoy. Eventually these artists improves their art and I always feel so happy and gets me motivated to do my own artwork. Also, these videos screams NOSTALGIA as I also used to work with a friend to create storyboards like Nyan Neko sugar girls and other amazing creators. Sorry for the long comment. ToT I really enjoyed watching this video! XD
Very good video, I remember watching NNSG episodes with my friends as they came out, my friends and I were OBSESSED with it, I went on to cosplay it to a local convention with friends, and made an AMV. I've definitely gone on some deep dives trying to find out as much about Yoli as possible, but you definitely went WAY deeper and found a lot more than I ever uncovered, great job on that!
watashi actually cried during this, nya. watashi is not joking when watashi says that - this is genuinely one of the best videos watashi has seen in months, maybe years. nya. when watashi started watching, watashi didnt know what to expect, but it certainly wasnt probably one of the most emotional and human stories that the internet has to offer. from the editing to the writing, from the subject, to the passion and dedication that it takes to make something like this, something so.. human. yet something that could only be possible on this wonderful yet kinda-scary entropy-filled plane of existence we call "the internet" i could make an entire five page essay on how this kinda-pretty-much-almost-two-hour video has impacted me so much in so little time, but that would probably exceed youtube's character limit, and this comment is already getting kind of long, so instead watashi is just going to stop typing, and start rewatching the video to see if watashi can spot any easter-eggs.. nyaa~
Arigato for speaking of watashi’s absolute favorite anime nyaa… the dedication you’ve put into this is amazing. This little internet anime has had a chokehold on my life for the last 2 years. I even got married to my friend (not- actually) over nnsg! I have two ongoing aus and fanfics for this absolute legend of a show and I have forced all my friends, my family, and one of my teachers to watch this. My love for Nyan Neko Sugar Girls is eternal, and your essay will have a special place in my heart. Again, I’m so, so, so arigatoful to you.
"i love words"; my man, it shows. this video was a spectacular journey i am so glad i had the courage to take. so well written, so in depth and so personal. this series has come up in my life a handful of times and everytime i loved how insane it was. and i loved when gakuen handsome got a release because it was so funny to see this style of animation in a more produced way. series like nyan girls shaped a whole, albeit ironic, aesthetic and getting to know more about the landscape is genuinely exciting. arigato desu ne ♡˖꒰ᵕ༚ᵕ⑅꒱
I love media that blurs the line between irony and reality, so Im so glad I stumbled upon this fantastic video. Although this sarcasm can sometimes become redundant, it’s still a great medium that has the potential to convey a lot of creative ideas. But as we see with the case of KawaiiSweetBerry, the problems with this type of comedy that has plagued the internet for years become apparent. When someone tries to break free of these ironic shackles, they are almost always met with hostility from their audiences, those who were previously in on the joke may continue to view these sincere efforts to create good content as just another joke or unusual, while the incessant rude comments just keep pouring in despite the honesty of the content merely due to the negative environment of some comment sections and how ridiculously apathetic some people can be on the internet. This 2 hours long documentary gives us a glimpse of how irony developed and evolved on the internet, people poking fun at communities they were already a part of, although not everyone got the joke. This eventually led to a scene overwhelmed with infinite layers of irony that makea browsing the internet feel like getting 50 layers of american cheese forced down your throat. Sorry for the rant the main takeaway is just not to be mean to people just cuz anata is on the net and have no information about people's intent like a baka >:( that is so unkawai and very not desu nor sugoi.
This video has genuinely been the best long form video I've ever watched. I hope you get recognized for the content that you make since this genuinely brought me joy
patricia taxxon mentioned 🎉🎉 also while i wouldn't say the furry roleplay community is competitive, it IS a very artistically driven community. people write whole novels centering around anthro characters and culturally 'furry' tropes in original worlds, some of which are remarkably well thought-out. most others not so much.
holy SHIT i rarely ever leave comments on youtube videos thata arent my friends but this was genuinely so good i am So Shocked this doesnt hve more attention.. i dont usually like sappy stuff in video essays but the thingwith how the internet has become so much more minimalized and passionless speaks to me so so much. this was a top tier video essay i WILL be sending this to all my friends and loved ones
I thank the algorithm for suggesting such a good high quality well written video from a channel that deserves way more attention I normally don’t have the attention to watch a video this long but you somehow managed to keep me really captivated the entire time and I didn’t get bored once the entire time well done
Not gonna lie, I learned nothing and most of it didn't have a clear direction... But the video actually entertained me enough to watch all of it. My brain now has anime brain rot and I blame this video. Great job!
I've never heard of Nyan~ Neko Sugar Girls in my life before. I watched through this video in It's entirety, and I cried tears. NNSG is now my hyper fixation. This is unironically beautiful
Okay, wow, this video is crazy. Prefacing this by saying; I am a megafan of NNSG. I have made fanart (one of which is pretty high when you look up bokutachi-san and additionally has a speedpaint) and an au, I've written koneko/raku fic and it's been one of my favorite series and a hyperfixation that comes back every few years. This is probably the best video on Nyan Neko Sugar Girls by far. The research that went into this including things that I didn't know about and taking nnsg seriously and having knowledge about the series is just perfect lol. the discussion about fanime and the underlying themes of this video are all really great and make for like one of the few good nnsg videos lol. I'm rambling on but this is seriously a great video and makes me want to make my own fanime someday, no matter how poorly made and cringe :,)
kono douga was downright sugoi desu!!! No ,but in all seriousness this was actually amazing and now I'm feeling weirdly inspired to just create something, even if it's bad or strange. I love this series and the effort you put into researching and talking about it was just so great to see. If I had access to digital art and animation as a child I 100% would've made an awful fanime. I used to make so much. I'd roleplay, trace anime and crudely color in manga panels. Now I can't help but to look at my own art and think "hmm, the color choices aren't very good" or "I should've chosen a better composition" and it honestly hurts to think of all the buried ideas that could have been something, but I never made because I was waiting to just magically get better at art, or writing, or whatever. The end of this video really did just bring me back in time to rping on the playground with friends I can no longer remember the faces of. idk, its 1:00am and I think I'm rambling. But this video actually has me crying thinking about friends I lost contact with a decade ago. Goodnight my tomodachis, may you find the courage to create with childlike whimsy. Nya~ rawr
It’s crazy to think that nyan neko sugar girls was actually the masterwork of its genre. Like I always thought of it as just a funny meme but it actually encapsulated what the fanime genre was about while finding its own (albeit ironic) huge cultural spot in UA-cam history. So wild. This is why I say that no matter how popular or impactful you think your art will be, just make it. Don’t think about that. The world will decide that without you. Just make it. And release it so that freaks like video essayists have something to yap about for 2 hours (Seriously Though thank you for yapping!!!) Also the dopamine hit I got when you mentioned two days in Moore Oklahoma!!! Great taste! Emp is a master of the video essay art form. He’s really special.
14:43 don’t think you are slick. I cannot stand for the blasphemy. Even through you flashed this “cat” for less than a second, it still brought back extreme trama from beating all the map pack levels. PG clubstep has caused irreversible damage of society. I belive that PG clubstep has set humanly back by DECADES.
The last time a UA-cam video entertained me in this very particular way was probably "The Last Bronycon" by Jenny Nicholson. I hope this gets at least half as big. Have a sub.
This is criminally underrated for the production value and entertaining commentary. 10/10 video to watch while cross-stitching a tiny Spamton G Spamton. ...uh, nya? (Also, I hear that Super Paper Mario bgm. PEAK!)
This seems like the My Immortal of fan animations. And like My Immortal, I personally believe the creator started it off authentically, but eventually leaned into making their work into satire. Also thumbs up just for narrating the ^ o ^ faces ahaha.
It's a lot like Mike and Melissa the show is both genuine and ironic over-escalation of it's absurdity makes it incredibly entertaining to watch "it's so bad it's good" It's honestly really common for early Newgrounds animators to make this stuff it's focusing more on story and plot than animation yet the animation has a unique style because of the animator.
my youtube autoplay followed this video with a tentacruel video thats probably a bigger compliment then everything i can come up with but i try anyways great video the pacing (idk if you use this word in the context of non-fiction) was very good for a very long video, no segment was to was to long and you definitly watched hbomberguy for many hours
I can't tell what is real anymore. You kept insisting all these channels associated with nyan~ neko sugargirls were trolls and I kept yelling at my screen "ARE YOU _SURE_ THEY'RE TROLLS??" I kept watching, remembering what it was like the be a preteen on the internet and making terrible videos that I hope never resurface, and while yes, i could believe a lot of it was potentially rage bait... A lot of this stuff reads like the product of too much creativity without the naturally built talent to back it up. The kind of thing that birthed hundreds of undertale AUs. The kind of thing that birthed Minecraft song parodies. The kind of thing that birthed Sonic and My Little Pony OCs. THE KIND OF THING THAT MADE MY UA-cam PROFILE ABOUT A ORANGE YOSHI NAMED HENRY. I had my google plus role play group, these people had their fanime communities and the new generation will have something else. Your readings of KawaiiSweetBerry's comments particularly convinced me that most of these people were passionate about what they were making and that they always were.
the part of this video talking about troll channels reminded me of my own fangirl troll channel i made when i was like 13-14 😭 it’s still up to this day because idk the password but it’s so bad 😭
1:36:31 acshually.... yoli-chan MIGHTVE voiced every character. koneko-chan may be yoli-chan's real voice, if you listened to the chobits fandub it makes sense. if you speed up hitoshi-san and bokutachi-san's voice, (its more clear in the I Want It That Way and Hips Don't Lie covers) it sounds like koneko-chan. vet-sama also sounds like koneko-chan with a more horrible quality mic
@@Crunchybagels Oh, yeah, I was very present for the community at the time! Wolflover007 often interacted with ilovecorgis and xLushix/Jupimeow a lot...the latter of which I suppose must have deleted their first channel. But there was a larger community, too, that I remember! DarkKokiri was a Warrior Cats animator that animated Lushi in a video once, along with another UA-camr named Sunny (Sunstripe31) who's no longer around but I watched the hell out of, bluekyokitty was another popular one that's still around, though not animating anymore to my knowledge. Oh, AlliKatNya as well! I remember Sunny having a friend named Reokeo who's videos I would watch a lot, too. I think their stuff is gone now, though. :( But yeah, a lot of nostalgic memories for this time! I love the video, by the way! It definitely was a rabbit hole, but an entertaining one!
Honestly, I am 🤏 this close of making a "Fanimation" myself. I have one of the characters design finish. And yeah, I was 14 at that time, It's like a combination of Barney the dinosaur and I don't know, an anime character that I've seen before.
Oh no. I had a big fanime-watching phase in 2011/2012. This video was mesmerizing for me. Pleasantly surprised for the deep-dive into fanime culture. For fellow fans, highly recommend Shikinagi's Quest of Laizen & Tsuki Desu for parody, Superu Ground (now on niconico douga) for legitimate fanime. Happy a lot of these videos are still around and getting new audiences.
2:01 yoo, i remember seeing the drawing on the left during middleschool when i was browsing for fanart after watching the series for the first time. this fanart in particular brought back so many memories
i was hesitant to watch this worried it'd be just an episode recap ending with a "who knows lol!" but i am so glad i did it makes me smile to see someone else acknowledge the fanime community as a viewer. im a little shocked it wasnt mentioned but i'd totally reccomend fanime family fun night; it was the avenue i used to watch fanime back in the day. its' a group of guys watching fanime and though they rib on it its never like, malicious or cruel
Fanime was the glue that bonded a lot of my friend groups after showing them a lot of these, laughing and being in utter disbelief in what we all witnessed. Thank you so much for covering not just the most famous example (NNSG) but highlighting the other's that came before and after❤. One of the ones I really wish didn't get ruined by youtube deletion was "Digimon Season Love". That fanime was WILD.
love the Fanime rabbit hole! I had a fanime hyperfixation phase back in 2016-2018 lmao. It's a nostalgia trip and I never noticed the small references and easter eggs of fanime tropes in NNSG.
I had this video in my recommendations twice probably because UA-cam wanted me to face my demons but like god. I was around for this era of time as a pre teen and used to do fanime dubs, thank you for the ride back in time it feels like whiplash!
@@Crunchybagels ofc, honestly I've always wanted to do UA-cam, but one of the things that is stopping me, is that I started wanting to do UA-cam back when Let's Plays were popular, and where it was normal to have a thumbnail and incremement a number on the same thumbnail, and do minimal editing, just rambling. But each and every year, it feels like the barrier to entry is higher. I have no passion for video editing or filmography, I'm also a man of words, but nobody reads anymore and UA-camrs, even small ones, make longer and longer videos, with more and more research and more impressive video editing. Hence, that part towards the end of your video really resonated with me strongly. Authenticity and effort isn't rewarded anymore, unless that authenticity and effort is agreeable to the masses and to bots running our everyday lives.
How does this almost 2 hour great deep dive into this niche youtube community has only below thousand likes with 6k+ views (as I am writing this) ???? This was very captive adventure and research, with nice moral of some kind on top, like a cherry on a cake Thank you for this scrumptious meal!
That part with KawaiiSweetBerry is honestly disheartening. The fact that this person was trying to do something genuine and the end result was only to be scoffed at plus received death threats. Though, I never had this problem but it still hurts to hear.
It's been a while since I watched a long format video. I'm glad I did, this was genuinely a great story! Uhh... Also has nothing to do with the fact I drew Bagel-Chan for you. :)
Couldn't have done it without you :>
You did great
@@sparksaturn1731 Thanks!
Before I watch the video all the way through, Yoli voiced everyone (Source: It's the most nyanful answer)
i like how their actual art skill bleeds through sometimes
YESS! Although it may be satire she didn't make it 100% shitty on purpose
nyan neko sugar girls was genuinely one of my obssession, I showed it to everyone I knew whether they liked it or not
real ones gave it an 11/10
you're so real for that, NNSG is a genuine masterpiece
Omg same I showed it at a birthday party one time
Same, I showed it to my teacher back in middle school
@@ravenchild7517 based
The best possible start to this video was Raku chan’s scream. You already have made the ultimate UA-cam video, and I have very arigatoful
and watashi is sugoi arigatouful for anatas comment in turn ^_^
Watashi feels so kimochii ii that anatas kind words were taken to kokoro :D
absolutely obsessed with the silly little sounds you do for the emoticons
^0^ *beep*
I'll be damned. Figured Yandere Dev was gonna bust out of prison and finish Yandere Simulator before this video dropped.
Wdym the video is cancelled
He's behind bars?
@@Tusskie i think he used to, im not sure
@@Tusskie It's a joke
@@TusskieNo. He's a crossplay maid for the Crips.
If anyone's wondering, Wolflover007 is still on the internet as k1mmyk4t or she was. She hasn't posted to any of her accounts since 2021. She still used Sauken as a character actually! She also mentioned graduating Grad school.
thats nice to hear ig
can I have a link to their channel?
You made a two hour video about Nyan Neko Sugar Girls, what the fuck do you mean "neurotypical"
sometimes i question that myself
the animation, lighting, and shading in those last few scenes of nyan neko sugar girls' last episode are genuinely phenomenal, like the lighting and color usage in the festival stills are beautiful (also great video, made me cry a few times)
happy my video could have such an emotional response in you! first time ive gotten comments saying a video of mine made them cry but it makes me proud. thank you!
20:17 the dark haired "OC" with the red dress is actually a fanmade design for the vocaloid Prima. Like Miku, but in english, released after her and developed for operas.
holy moly, it seems like you actually cracked the case! thanks for the insight
...........developed for.... soap..operas?....46?
O.O
🤔
..neato. ^^ (bup bup)
soap opera was definitely a vocaloid fan
Hi! I'm not sure if you'll see this but I was the one who created Koneko-chans Murder mystery! I never thought it would get attention like this so I'm really surprised 😭 I made it over the summer as a joke but I'm glad to see you enjoyed it :)
I gasped when I saw this
i remember hearing a theory that the voice ‘actures’ are actually just the same person with the audio being pitched/edited in some way. theres a nightcore version of hitoshi san singing hips dont lie and someone pointed out how his voice seemed rather feminine when pitched up
ive heard that theory and found it unconvincing :P it seems very technical not only for the time but especially for yoli, who, while deliberately doesnt fix her animation and audio errors, nonetheless also doesnt seem to be technically proficient. this clashes with how bloody *good* the pitch shifting would have to be to sound so realistic. its just a lotta hoops to jump through compared to the easier theory of "there are multiple VAs". for comparison, mayonakas hitoshi VA is *actually* a womans voice pitch shifted, and its immediately obvious
It sounds more likely to just be friends and family instead
nah, hitoshi is just fruity
@@Crunchybagels it's something even a total amateur could do in like 2 minutes in audacity (which has been around for like, 20 years), if you pitch hitoshi's voice up a tad it's a lot more obvious it's just yoli chan pitching her voice down (compare and contrast with other characters, in particular koneko chan and vet sama). i think hitoshi sounding relatively convincing could be either a stroke of dumb luck or actual skill, but i'm inclined to lean towards the former. haven't tested this out with bokutachi san but i think it is most likely everyone is voiced by yoli chan and maybe a friend of hers (though who this could be remains a mystery)
"This is what hopes and dreams are made of": Begins to play field of hopes and dreams. Not bad, that farmed engagement out of me.
Very glad someone noticed that
The ms paint artstyle is a decoy only for the troll element and it is obvious in the later episodes. You can see that for exactly one frame that the show actually using layers 🤣. In the final episode they even use visual effects for Raku's nightmare.
SoapOpera knew exactly what she was doing and it is glorious.
To be fair, we knew she had photoshop way before Episode 10 even came out. Hell, even before NNSG with the Last Unicorn. Probably drew on MS Paint and edited using Photoshop.
this is more than just a video essay, this now classifies as historical context, many a generation will use this video as the paragon of research for Sugar Neko Girls, you've done sugoi
Much arigatou for the kind words, and happ you enjoyed watching!!
The TCM mention legit threw me off because I am still friends with the girl who created the series (aswell as I was close friends with two other VAs) and the creator actually is a successful streamer still doing art. Also she does sell a pin of one of her old pieces art (It was the mutant cheeto joke, and that alone is also a higher teir emote on her twitch)
its been fun getting comments from people who actually know about fanime before watching the video lul. wishing kisaka luck in the future!
Kore wa so sugoi!^_^ Watashi is very arigatoful for this masterpiece :3
arigatou!!!~
Everyone here needs to look up "Sparkle On Raven: the Life of Drillgirl". It's a tribute to these kinds of series, but done by animators with professional animation experience (which they hide)
never heard of it but will keep in mind!
Can vouch, Sparkle On Raven is PEAK
sparkle on raven is PEAK highly recommend. it sparks joy
I LOVE THIS SCHOOL, I WANT TO LIVE HERE!
SPARKLE ON RAVEN MENTIONED
i heard the lemon demon music in the background and my autism senses started tingling /pos
great video 👍
this video was a great excuse to simultaneously throw myself at lemon demons older catalogue, wish sky is not blue and dance like an idiot had official instrumentals so bad i wouldve absolutely used em
i was gonna comment on that too as soon as i heard it my attention SNAPPED to the screen! xD
Same lol
Same!
did not expect a deep dive into fanime more or less! i was kind of a part of that community and yeah, it was basically a bunch of 9-16 year olds drawing in ms paint and painstakingly editing stuff together in windows movie maker. people were uh. very not nice about it! even knowing these were children. we'd often get trolled by 4chan and sent gore and porn :') it sucked. but then sometimes either they or we ourselves would make parody stuff. if you haven't already (and if it still exists) definitely check out Eternal and Illusions Dreams. Those were pretty much classic fanime, with Eternal being one of the most beloved at the time despite having like one and a half episodes or something.
Now THIS is the type of UA-cam video I’ve needed
Happy to provide 🫡
Okay, so I got this video recommended 2 hours ago. I clicked on it thinking "This sounds funny, and I DO enjoy long videos about going increasingly deeper into a rabbit hole I had no interest in prior to watching". The more I watched, the more entertained I was by your explanations and slow (kinda quick, actually) descent into kawaii desu madness. I thought to myself that this video was great, and by the time I finished it, I would give a shallow attempt at comedy and leave a comment where I go "Uwaaah! Watashi very impressed by ur kawaii skills! Ver desu!!!!" and move on with my day.
But then, you did something interesting. You did something I could never be ready for after all the twists and turns of trolling section. You had the gall to make me feel things. The AUDACITY to leave words in this video that would peer into my very soul and ask me... "Don't you miss being cringe?" Not the exact wording obviously, but after you went deep into the fact that every single fanime you looked at in this video has passion and soul put into it despite its obvious (sometimes intentional) shortcomings, all I could think was... yeah. I don't necessarily miss my cringey phases back when I was a kid, but I miss being able to express myself. I envy these ms paint abominations in how they're able to exist without worrying about what others will think of them, or in some cases TRYING to get a rise out of people whilst still being unmistakably pure and true to their creator's selves.
You have caught me off guard in a video that I thought would be a silly goofy time where I can sit back, relax and laugh at "haha funny mspaint scribble looks bad" but you took this absurd premise and managed to make me think back on myself. No jokey one-off "kawaii desu" comment could ever reflect that.
I guess all I wanted to say is good fucking job lmao. Sorry for the world's largest word salad I puked up in here. I hope that, if anything, it shows just how much this video hit me.
Don't be sorry for the long comment, it's well worded essays like yours that are my favorite to read! I'm glad my video affected you that much, and very happy you enjoyed!
your comment is one of the few reasons i really enjoy looking at the comment section on youtube. this was really well said hylion!!!
long-form reply on a long-form video
Bro “arigatoful” was in the episode 1 script, NNSG is a literal masterclass in parody from its first breath
finding out that the creator of Nyan neko sugar girls is a hetalia fan has made my week
glad I have therapy tomorrow. edit: the ending of this vid nearly made me cry. I rly enjoy 'bad' art. makes my heart ache to see people get bullied cause of it
side note: I recommend checking sparkle on raven
"watashi can't go outside, nya" SOOO REAL
If this video doesn’t take off, I will coop myself up in my room all day 24/7 and never interact with anyone ever again.
may the youtube algorithm bless the #bagelnaysh
real
i love how you explored old internet fanimations the entire video is so good
Thank you!
Holy cow, this video honestly surprised me a ton. I was not intending on getting hooked and going down the Fanime rabbithole, but you did such a good job of portraying it. I love it! Genuinely, my favorite video from you, amazing work Desu!
Very glad to hear it! :D maybe those six months weren't a complete waste after all lol
Usually I lurk here since i hate commenting on videos but The Tokyo Crystal Mew section really made me wanna talk about how insane yr improvement has been on this channel, seeing you go from stuff like the Kayzee video to genuine bangers like this and zaregoto 3 is super cool, hope this video does numbers o7
YOU REMEMBER THE KAYZEEE VIDEO? I THOUGHT EVERYONE FORGOT ABOUT THAT ONE
@@CrunchybagelsLMAO if it helps I remember all the stuff from back in the day in concept alone, the uhc era was a dark age
Middle aged weaboo here! This video took me back to the good old days. Things were just more fun. Try looking into amv history lol
They really did unironicly talk that way, some grew out of it, some didn't.
Amv history omg
Absolutely love the sound effects for the ^o^ faces
"This is what hopes and dreams are made out of" and then field of hopes and dreams from hit indie game delta rune starts playing is so strong
It's not often that you see a video that makes you wish you weren't self aware
4:45 as a girl, we totally wanna talk about nyan neko sugar girls
W
Ok, fbi agent
Nice try fed
Soapopera: "My boobs hurt"
Me, a trans girl on estrogen: "i know the feeling"
I wish I had found the fanime corner of youtube back then, I was obsessed with those bizarre corners of youtube back in 2009 and would have totally hyperfixated on this junk like it was peak media. Aw I miss those days.
May the algorithm bless this video, it is just the type of unhinged that i love. ^0^ >w< xD >.< :3
This is the kind of video that'd blow up 3 years after it's uploaded for no discernible reason..
I’m literally so glad that I was able to experience the early internet days where beginning artists created their own work and upload their stories online. Although the art and story plot lines can be confusing, I think it’s an important step for newer artists or animators to take the initiative and work on something they really enjoy. Eventually these artists improves their art and I always feel so happy and gets me motivated to do my own artwork.
Also, these videos screams NOSTALGIA as I also used to work with a friend to create storyboards like Nyan Neko sugar girls and other amazing creators.
Sorry for the long comment. ToT
I really enjoyed watching this video! XD
you shouldnt be sorry, *thanks* for the long comment and glad you enjoyed!
Very good video, I remember watching NNSG episodes with my friends as they came out, my friends and I were OBSESSED with it, I went on to cosplay it to a local convention with friends, and made an AMV. I've definitely gone on some deep dives trying to find out as much about Yoli as possible, but you definitely went WAY deeper and found a lot more than I ever uncovered, great job on that!
happy you enjoyed the video!
watashi actually cried during this, nya. watashi is not joking when watashi says that - this is genuinely one of the best videos watashi has seen in months, maybe years. nya. when watashi started watching, watashi didnt know what to expect, but it certainly wasnt probably one of the most emotional and human stories that the internet has to offer. from the editing to the writing, from the subject, to the passion and dedication that it takes to make something like this, something so.. human. yet something that could only be possible on this wonderful yet kinda-scary entropy-filled plane of existence we call "the internet" i could make an entire five page essay on how this kinda-pretty-much-almost-two-hour video has impacted me so much in so little time, but that would probably exceed youtube's character limit, and this comment is already getting kind of long, so instead watashi is just going to stop typing, and start rewatching the video to see if watashi can spot any easter-eggs.. nyaa~
Thank you very much for the kind words! Or, I'm sorry ... Arigatou goyzaimasu 4 kimochi wordz! ^0^ happy to see the video affecting people like this!
Arigato for speaking of watashi’s absolute favorite anime nyaa… the dedication you’ve put into this is amazing. This little internet anime has had a chokehold on my life for the last 2 years. I even got married to my friend (not- actually) over nnsg! I have two ongoing aus and fanfics for this absolute legend of a show and I have forced all my friends, my family, and one of my teachers to watch this. My love for Nyan Neko Sugar Girls is eternal, and your essay will have a special place in my heart. Again, I’m so, so, so arigatoful to you.
Very happy you enjoyed!
"i love words"; my man, it shows. this video was a spectacular journey i am so glad i had the courage to take. so well written, so in depth and so personal. this series has come up in my life a handful of times and everytime i loved how insane it was. and i loved when gakuen handsome got a release because it was so funny to see this style of animation in a more produced way. series like nyan girls shaped a whole, albeit ironic, aesthetic and getting to know more about the landscape is genuinely exciting. arigato desu ne ♡˖꒰ᵕ༚ᵕ⑅꒱
I love media that blurs the line between irony and reality, so Im so glad I stumbled upon this fantastic video. Although this sarcasm can sometimes become redundant, it’s still a great medium that has the potential to convey a lot of creative ideas. But as we see with the case of KawaiiSweetBerry, the problems with this type of comedy that has plagued the internet for years become apparent. When someone tries to break free of these ironic shackles, they are almost always met with hostility from their audiences, those who were previously in on the joke may continue to view these sincere efforts to create good content as just another joke or unusual, while the incessant rude comments just keep pouring in despite the honesty of the content merely due to the negative environment of some comment sections and how ridiculously apathetic some people can be on the internet. This 2 hours long documentary gives us a glimpse of how irony developed and evolved on the internet, people poking fun at communities they were already a part of, although not everyone got the joke. This eventually led to a scene overwhelmed with infinite layers of irony that makea browsing the internet feel like getting 50 layers of american cheese forced down your throat.
Sorry for the rant the main takeaway is just not to be mean to people just cuz anata is on the net and have no information about people's intent like a baka >:( that is so unkawai and very not desu nor sugoi.
Good content as always crunchy, I look forwards to what comes next
(I have not watched a single video of yours outside of this one)
well this is a good time to become part of the BAGELNATION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This video has genuinely been the best long form video I've ever watched. I hope you get recognized for the content that you make since this genuinely brought me joy
I've reached the age where I can no longer cringe at any of this stuff, looking at it just makes me happy
patricia taxxon mentioned 🎉🎉
also while i wouldn't say the furry roleplay community is competitive, it IS a very artistically driven community. people write whole novels centering around anthro characters and culturally 'furry' tropes in original worlds, some of which are remarkably well thought-out. most others not so much.
holy SHIT i rarely ever leave comments on youtube videos thata arent my friends but this was genuinely so good i am So Shocked this doesnt hve more attention.. i dont usually like sappy stuff in video essays but the thingwith how the internet has become so much more minimalized and passionless speaks to me so so much. this was a top tier video essay i WILL be sending this to all my friends and loved ones
im very happy you enjoyed it! thanks for watching :D
I thank the algorithm for suggesting such a good high quality well written video from a channel that deserves way more attention I normally don’t have the attention to watch a video this long but you somehow managed to keep me really captivated the entire time and I didn’t get bored once the entire time well done
Not gonna lie, I learned nothing and most of it didn't have a clear direction... But the video actually entertained me enough to watch all of it. My brain now has anime brain rot and I blame this video. Great job!
1:45:53 although it could be unintentional, I’d like to think they meant it. They could’ve used “mourning” as grieving and it went over our heads
I've never heard of Nyan~ Neko Sugar Girls in my life before. I watched through this video in It's entirety, and I cried tears. NNSG is now my hyper fixation. This is unironically beautiful
Same here ^^
Glad I could introduce you to this masterpiece :)
@@Crunchybagels Thank you for making this video!
"I'm very ARIGATO-FUL"
I fucking died
Okay, wow, this video is crazy. Prefacing this by saying; I am a megafan of NNSG. I have made fanart (one of which is pretty high when you look up bokutachi-san and additionally has a speedpaint) and an au, I've written koneko/raku fic and it's been one of my favorite series and a hyperfixation that comes back every few years. This is probably the best video on Nyan Neko Sugar Girls by far. The research that went into this including things that I didn't know about and taking nnsg seriously and having knowledge about the series is just perfect lol. the discussion about fanime and the underlying themes of this video are all really great and make for like one of the few good nnsg videos lol. I'm rambling on but this is seriously a great video and makes me want to make my own fanime someday, no matter how poorly made and cringe :,)
I'm very glad you enjoyed, and especially that you noticed the videos themes ^_^ !
Seeing some of them improve is actually inspiring ngl as a artist myself
kono douga was downright sugoi desu!!!
No ,but in all seriousness this was actually amazing and now I'm feeling weirdly inspired to just create something, even if it's bad or strange. I love this series and the effort you put into researching and talking about it was just so great to see. If I had access to digital art and animation as a child I 100% would've made an awful fanime. I used to make so much. I'd roleplay, trace anime and crudely color in manga panels. Now I can't help but to look at my own art and think "hmm, the color choices aren't very good" or "I should've chosen a better composition" and it honestly hurts to think of all the buried ideas that could have been something, but I never made because I was waiting to just magically get better at art, or writing, or whatever. The end of this video really did just bring me back in time to rping on the playground with friends I can no longer remember the faces of.
idk, its 1:00am and I think I'm rambling. But this video actually has me crying thinking about friends I lost contact with a decade ago. Goodnight my tomodachis, may you find the courage to create with childlike whimsy. Nya~ rawr
it makes me very happy to read comments like this. im glad it affected you so much and wish you luck on your artistic endeavors :)
It’s crazy to think that nyan neko sugar girls was actually the masterwork of its genre. Like I always thought of it as just a funny meme but it actually encapsulated what the fanime genre was about while finding its own (albeit ironic) huge cultural spot in UA-cam history. So wild. This is why I say that no matter how popular or impactful you think your art will be, just make it. Don’t think about that. The world will decide that without you. Just make it. And release it so that freaks like video essayists have something to yap about for 2 hours (Seriously Though thank you for yapping!!!)
Also the dopamine hit I got when you mentioned two days in Moore Oklahoma!!! Great taste! Emp is a master of the video essay art form. He’s really special.
"You think this is f u n n y, don't you?" actually I found crunchy's 'insane person' impression kinda hard to sit through
... Impression?
Vry sugoi vid Bagel-chan ^o^ lotz of rserch! Suprizdu by watashi discord coment sying NNSG is serius!
Edit: It's always Haruno! (me)
Glad you enjoyed! ^_^
0:26 How I look after bro doesn’t pick up
Anyone got a name to the Jewish Sailor Moon fan anime at 53:38? It unlocked a memory from my teenage years that I need to follow.
elemental goddesses
14:43 don’t think you are slick. I cannot stand for the blasphemy. Even through you flashed this “cat” for less than a second, it still brought back extreme trama from beating all the map pack levels. PG clubstep has caused irreversible damage of society. I belive that PG clubstep has set humanly back by DECADES.
The last time a UA-cam video entertained me in this very particular way was probably "The Last Bronycon" by Jenny Nicholson. I hope this gets at least half as big. Have a sub.
ty, and glad you enjoyed!
This is criminally underrated for the production value and entertaining commentary.
10/10 video to watch while cross-stitching a tiny Spamton G Spamton.
...uh, nya?
(Also, I hear that Super Paper Mario bgm. PEAK!)
the super paper mario ost and lemon demons discography collectively probably make up like 70% of songs in this video lmao
THIS IS A REALLY GOOD VIDEO I’m surprised you haven’t gotten that much traction yet. Super entertaining stuff, please don’t stop making videos !!!
Thank you!!
the biggest jumpscare in this video is you mentioning you just recently watched neon genesis evangelion for the first time
"recently" is definitely a stretch now considering how long it took to get this out lmao
I've never watched neon genesis evangelion
This seems like the My Immortal of fan animations. And like My Immortal, I personally believe the creator started it off authentically, but eventually leaned into making their work into satire. Also thumbs up just for narrating the ^ o ^ faces ahaha.
It's a lot like Mike and Melissa the show is both genuine and ironic over-escalation of it's absurdity makes it incredibly entertaining to watch "it's so bad it's good" It's honestly really common for early Newgrounds animators to make this stuff it's focusing more on story and plot than animation yet the animation has a unique style because of the animator.
my youtube autoplay followed this video with a tentacruel video
thats probably a bigger compliment then everything i can come up with
but i try anyways
great video
the pacing (idk if you use this word in the context of non-fiction) was very good
for a very long video, no segment was to was to long
and you definitly watched hbomberguy for many hours
Hbomberguy is in my top two yters so that tracks. Thx for watching!
subbed for the lemon demon /j
this video was so cool !! also loved the emoticon sound effects you made >o<
do cook again plz 🙏🙏
Gooning is dangerous!
So true oomfie
@@Crunchybagelsgooning is desu!
I can't tell what is real anymore.
You kept insisting all these channels associated with nyan~ neko sugargirls were trolls and I kept yelling at my screen
"ARE YOU _SURE_ THEY'RE TROLLS??"
I kept watching, remembering what it was like the be a preteen on the internet and making terrible videos that I hope never resurface, and while yes, i could believe a lot of it was potentially rage bait...
A lot of this stuff reads like the product of too much creativity without the naturally built talent to back it up.
The kind of thing that birthed hundreds of undertale AUs. The kind of thing that birthed Minecraft song parodies. The kind of thing that birthed Sonic and My Little Pony OCs. THE KIND OF THING THAT MADE MY UA-cam PROFILE ABOUT A ORANGE YOSHI NAMED HENRY.
I had my google plus role play group, these people had their fanime communities and the new generation will have something else.
Your readings of KawaiiSweetBerry's comments particularly convinced me that most of these people were passionate about what they were making and that they always were.
I get that feeling lol. Remember, this is just my best guess as to what their intentions were, but we'll probably never know for sure.
the part of this video talking about troll channels reminded me of my own fangirl troll channel i made when i was like 13-14 😭 it’s still up to this day because idk the password but it’s so bad 😭
I LOVE THIS. Its not every day i find such a good youtube retrospective on somthing i didnt know i needed
glad you enjoyed!
1:36:31 acshually.... yoli-chan MIGHTVE voiced every character.
koneko-chan may be yoli-chan's real voice, if you listened to the chobits fandub it makes sense. if you speed up hitoshi-san and bokutachi-san's voice, (its more clear in the I Want It That Way and Hips Don't Lie covers) it sounds like koneko-chan. vet-sama also sounds like koneko-chan with a more horrible quality mic
Okay, so I haven't watched the video yet, but I gotta say, seeing Sauken in the thumbnail there in a video in 2024 caught me SUPER off-guard.
crazy seeing someone who already knows about sauken. have fun with the video ^_^
@@Crunchybagels Oh, yeah, I was very present for the community at the time! Wolflover007 often interacted with ilovecorgis and xLushix/Jupimeow a lot...the latter of which I suppose must have deleted their first channel. But there was a larger community, too, that I remember! DarkKokiri was a Warrior Cats animator that animated Lushi in a video once, along with another UA-camr named Sunny (Sunstripe31) who's no longer around but I watched the hell out of, bluekyokitty was another popular one that's still around, though not animating anymore to my knowledge. Oh, AlliKatNya as well!
I remember Sunny having a friend named Reokeo who's videos I would watch a lot, too. I think their stuff is gone now, though. :( But yeah, a lot of nostalgic memories for this time!
I love the video, by the way! It definitely was a rabbit hole, but an entertaining one!
Just waiting before this blows up
Great video btw!
Honestly, I am 🤏 this close of making a "Fanimation" myself. I have one of the characters design finish.
And yeah, I was 14 at that time, It's like a combination of Barney the dinosaur and I don't know, an anime character that I've seen before.
Oh no. I had a big fanime-watching phase in 2011/2012. This video was mesmerizing for me. Pleasantly surprised for the deep-dive into fanime culture. For fellow fans, highly recommend Shikinagi's Quest of Laizen & Tsuki Desu for parody, Superu Ground (now on niconico douga) for legitimate fanime. Happy a lot of these videos are still around and getting new audiences.
2:01 yoo, i remember seeing the drawing on the left during middleschool when i was browsing for fanart after watching the series for the first time. this fanart in particular brought back so many memories
This was good! I just went to a panel at Oni-Con about Neko Sugar Girls this past weekend. The fandom is still going!
Finally, something I can crank it to
Thanks pookiebagels
what do you mean by that
straight up nyaning it. and by "it" well. lets just say. watashi kawaii desu neko
This was such a beautiful video oh my GOODNESS i wish i could be this passionate about anything
“It never gets much better than this”
Duh, this is peak of art
i was hesitant to watch this worried it'd be just an episode recap ending with a "who knows lol!" but i am so glad i did
it makes me smile to see someone else acknowledge the fanime community as a viewer. im a little shocked it wasnt mentioned but i'd totally reccomend fanime family fun night; it was the avenue i used to watch fanime back in the day. its' a group of guys watching fanime and though they rib on it its never like, malicious or cruel
never heard of em, will keep in mind. glad you enjoyed the video!! :D
Fanime was the glue that bonded a lot of my friend groups after showing them a lot of these, laughing and being in utter disbelief in what we all witnessed. Thank you so much for covering not just the most famous example (NNSG) but highlighting the other's that came before and after❤. One of the ones I really wish didn't get ruined by youtube deletion was "Digimon Season Love". That fanime was WILD.
love the Fanime rabbit hole! I had a fanime hyperfixation phase back in 2016-2018 lmao. It's a nostalgia trip and I never noticed the small references and easter eggs of fanime tropes in NNSG.
this is brilliant nya
55:56 alright they finally caught me off gaurd😭
I had this video in my recommendations twice probably because UA-cam wanted me to face my demons but like god. I was around for this era of time as a pre teen and used to do fanime dubs, thank you for the ride back in time it feels like whiplash!
glad i could provide ^_^
i know this is off topic but the random interjects of lemon demon music keeps throwing me off haha, absolutely love those songs
I'm obsessed with how you do sound effects for the emotes xD
"you may have seen a clip online" I HAVE SEEN THIS ENTIRE THING LMAO
You really somehow made this joke of a series into something that resonates with me as an artist, thats crazy writing skills
Happy you liked it, thx for watching ^_^
i... never considered people may not know these things.
This video is fantastic. Your voice is real soothing and your way of telling this story is just hilarious and captivating.
thank you for the comment! :D
@@Crunchybagels ofc, honestly I've always wanted to do UA-cam, but one of the things that is stopping me, is that I started wanting to do UA-cam back when Let's Plays were popular, and where it was normal to have a thumbnail and incremement a number on the same thumbnail, and do minimal editing, just rambling. But each and every year, it feels like the barrier to entry is higher. I have no passion for video editing or filmography, I'm also a man of words, but nobody reads anymore and UA-camrs, even small ones, make longer and longer videos, with more and more research and more impressive video editing. Hence, that part towards the end of your video really resonated with me strongly. Authenticity and effort isn't rewarded anymore, unless that authenticity and effort is agreeable to the masses and to bots running our everyday lives.
How does this almost 2 hour great deep dive into this niche youtube community has only below thousand likes with 6k+ views (as I am writing this) ????
This was very captive adventure and research, with nice moral of some kind on top, like a cherry on a cake
Thank you for this scrumptious meal!
thank you for watching, and very happy you enjoyed! :D
That part with KawaiiSweetBerry is honestly disheartening. The fact that this person was trying to do something genuine and the end result was only to be scoffed at plus received death threats. Though, I never had this problem but it still hurts to hear.
honestly super surprised that this doesnt have more views. Good video 👍
Glad you enjoyed it :)