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“LOAD REJECTED” double the Rate $$$ to return? Not my Mistake so why should I Pay? Spot market

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  • @bigdogbandal
    @bigdogbandal 4 роки тому +346

    I had something similar happen at the company I used to manage and drive for. I had extra trailers, a broker that was worthless, and a shipper who didn't want to pay. It went to my yard, and sat until they decided to pay me. I made it very clear that after 60 days it would go to auction as abandoned property. They paid me for 27 days of storage, the original load, the trip to my shop, and the trip to take it to one of their warehouses.

    • @bojanglesthewizard8875
      @bojanglesthewizard8875 4 роки тому +35

      Now that is a smart idea on your side, and not a very bright idea to not pay people hauling your stuff lol

    • @thevan3293
      @thevan3293 3 роки тому +16

      Excellent result.

    • @jimdillon2123
      @jimdillon2123 3 роки тому +12

      Jon Diesel, I also did something similar in the UK, so good for you mate, in the UK haulage industry we can also charge " standing time " as well as the return rate, however we used to get the same BS.

    • @sj7601
      @sj7601 3 роки тому +7

      What if you had a trailer full of cows, who would take care of them in this situation lol

    • @bigdogbandal
      @bigdogbandal 3 роки тому +7

      @@sj7601 they'll go in my field.

  • @davidnee6157
    @davidnee6157 3 роки тому +367

    Back in the late 80's, I had brokered a load of watermelons out of GA. I really didn't want to
    but the 4th of July was the w/end coming. Wife and I had some plans. So I took it...
    I got to the field and the farm boys loaded me right up ( flatbed - side kit).
    I was on my way Kroger , Cleveland, Oh. which at the time, I lived 60 miles from.
    I was *"assured"* that Kroger was going to unload these melons... (humm, sounded fishy).
    If I remember right the 4th was on a Saturday, I got to Kroger that Friday morning 6am.
    Back in a hole, I was told to unload them.
    I told that guy on the dock to "Kiss my ass too!"
    After talking to a few people, I basically told them "I am leaving at 9am, with or without the melons."
    9am rolled up , I was pulling out of the dock. Recovered up the back of the trailer, and 3 guys
    was running out toward me. 2 of them in suit and tie!! I kept walking toward my cab. They ask me where I was going.
    Told them it didn't matter where I'm going....
    I left! with the melons! I knew Cleveland fairly well,,,,,, I drive my ass downtown, found me some cardboard.
    "WATERMELONS.....$4ea 3 for $10." These were the BIG 20 -23 LB melons.
    Word got out I was selling these. I sold that load of melons in just over 5 hours and never touched one of them!!!
    I paid the broker and still put over 4k in my pocket. He ask me "What the hell you do?
    I said, "Don't ask" I told him about it a few days later, he just laughed...He never did mentioned watermelons to me again......go figure!
    I don't drive professional anymore , but love your video's. Good job sticking to them!! 👍

    • @alvinreed9231
      @alvinreed9231 3 роки тому

      @christ1313 ji

    • @alvinreed9231
      @alvinreed9231 3 роки тому

      @christ1313 k7

    • @CheezburgerBrown
      @CheezburgerBrown 3 роки тому +7

      Ive heard this one before, funny fable.

    • @zionisimkills1098
      @zionisimkills1098 3 роки тому +9

      I did the same thing at Hunt's point produce market Bronx N.Y. 1978 with a load of Strawberries.

    • @noonecareswhenalltheydo
      @noonecareswhenalltheydo 3 роки тому +3

      these days thats called cargo theft. They put you in prison for that. Could have done it back then had the shipper and receiver really pushed the issue.

  • @paulbrown4625
    @paulbrown4625 4 роки тому +14

    One of the best trucking video's I've ever seen. Real stuff, real situations, good decent hard working man getting shafted but sticking to his guns. Love it!! Great example of "How to" when things go south (No pun intended).

  • @crackinwise18
    @crackinwise18 4 роки тому +187

    I like how the broker is using the Florida outbound rate for your return trip...But that load is not a Florida load originating in Florida going north... You are stuck going back because of their screw up... So Florida outbound has nothing to do with your rate to return the load. Good job standing your ground on that BS...

    • @toddvandervort1377
      @toddvandervort1377 4 роки тому +24

      That is the biggest line of bullshit and lies they ever made up... There is no such thing as a backhaul. One persons backhaul is another’s fronthaul. It’s just an excuse they use to pay dirt cheap rates. SAY NO TO CHEAP FREIGHT.... JOIN OOIDA...

    • @plcwboy
      @plcwboy 3 роки тому

      @@toddvandervort1377 There are very few lanes that have perfectly balanced freight where the rate is exactly the same both directions. There's almost always more demand in one direction, which means some trucks are going to bounce the other way, which makes the freight rate higher going the way that there's no load back from. In many lanes it will be seasonal...the high rate side part of the year will be the low rate side another part of the year.

    • @StormHunter71
      @StormHunter71 3 роки тому +2

      @@plcwboy which is honestly a crap argument, there is absolutely no excuse for taking garbage rates, plenty of bottom feeders will though, I delivered to Orlando and my company called and offered a load to Albuquerque at a decent rate, then the shipper canceled it, which was apparently a mistake because the next day the shipper called in a panic, in the meantime I had a load out of Knoxville booked, they asked if I was willing to take it back, I said yes but my rate just went up for bouncing me around, they accepted then called me on another load immediately out of Albuquerque 3 miles from my delivery to Ohio, countered that one too and was accepted, made for a huge week, so nope no cheap freight for me, ill sit first, a lot of the problem with trucker mentality is they are always impatient and need to keep rolling no matter what the rate is, absolutely no patience to play the game at all

    • @jaybiediger6773
      @jaybiediger6773 3 роки тому +1

      You have to suspect the broker would be getting the same rate back, but paying the driver the fictitious “market rate”

    • @jaybiediger6773
      @jaybiediger6773 3 роки тому +2

      @@plcwboy however, this isn’t a regular market load, this is a load where the problem has arisen due to someone else’s mistake, and the driver has the merchandise on his trailer. If the broker wants to pay detention time and labor etc to cross dock to another driver willing to take the load cheaper, that’s their call. In the meantime, the first driver can be looking for another “market rate” load at a rate they agree to, to a destination they choose. The first driver shouldn’t allow the broker to dictate a rate they don’t agree to. The first driver didn’t create the problem, so it’s not their responsibility to accept a less desirable outcome.

  • @briankindley4859
    @briankindley4859 3 роки тому +18

    I like how you think out loud for this video. Gives an insight into what truckers have to deal with navigating and finding unfamiliar locations to deliver to.

  • @macgyveratlarge2133
    @macgyveratlarge2133 4 роки тому +71

    When you said CH Robinson, it answered ALL my questions.
    I would NEVER take a load from Cheap & Heavy Robinson, no matter WHAT they paid for mileage.

    • @teestirelife1318
      @teestirelife1318 4 роки тому +7

      Lol.. that is a well know thing in the transportation world of cheap and heavy..

    • @angiemartinsmith
      @angiemartinsmith 4 роки тому +2

      Sounds like Rob at CH Robinson

    • @jaeinnmoon3279
      @jaeinnmoon3279 3 роки тому +4

      @Lancemus Blanco - nobody pays you before you deliver. Never heard of such things

    • @jaeinnmoon3279
      @jaeinnmoon3279 3 роки тому +1

      @Lancemus Blanco - just name me one broker that pays you before you deliver. I will shut up after I confirm with the broker. Either you post their name or their MC docket number right here....

    • @sostrucking
      @sostrucking 3 роки тому

      Same here that came to mind first

  • @beachbum9869
    @beachbum9869 4 роки тому +29

    I admire how cool, calm and collective you stayed through that whole process. And you got the burrito too. YAY! Just came across your channel. I subscribed and dinged the bell. Brings back memories. Driving is so different these days. Stay safe and stay healthy.

  • @littlesister3477
    @littlesister3477 3 роки тому +8

    Retired from trucking OTR, Your vids bring back memories, I was just like you. Held my temper ( for the most part lol ) it does you absolutely no good to start screaming. I've held a few loads on customers in situations like this where they never got back to me in my case ,until they gave me my money, back than we didn't have all this tech and it was very difficult to prove when or how many times you called. Plus you had to sit by a pay phone most of the time. I would have the broker involved overnight me a bankers check and only after receipt of it would I give them back their stuff. That's the biggest reason I didn't deliver produce & stuff that could spoil. It was a different era back tha drn.Truckers are screwed every which way from Sunday nowadays. You do a great Job. If I wasn't disabled I'd probably go back to driving atleast on a regional level. Good luck bro.

  • @paulweldon3134
    @paulweldon3134 4 роки тому +70

    Once they know you know the game , they cave just like they did. It’s not personal , just a business game that can be fun to play at times. Definitely worked out for you! That’s awesome

    • @waynedalton7815
      @waynedalton7815 3 роки тому +1

      You are the best love your show. Wayne from Washington State

  • @frozenbits48
    @frozenbits48 4 роки тому +35

    It only took me twice- -slow learner!- -to know I would never again accept a load going to Florida. That was fourteen years ago, never been back to Florida and I don't think I left anything there to go back after!

    • @atomicwedgie8176
      @atomicwedgie8176 3 роки тому +14

      Dad, is that you?

    • @thisismagacountry1318
      @thisismagacountry1318 3 роки тому +3

      @@atomicwedgie8176 Your Dad went to get cigarettes.

    • @atomicwedgie8176
      @atomicwedgie8176 3 роки тому +2

      @@thisismagacountry1318 He'll be back...his nicotine urge is strong, but his love for me is endless! I hope he hurries...I just took early retirement...sigh

  • @spratticus6297
    @spratticus6297 4 роки тому +75

    And this is why truckers are cranky all the time , you handled that well

    • @ciscobriones5904
      @ciscobriones5904 3 роки тому +10

      lots of Bs as a truck driver.... when ppl say happy trucking they mean it but they know...its never a happy stress free day....

    • @johnmcmanus129
      @johnmcmanus129 3 роки тому +1

      amen to that,

    • @daileygaming9488
      @daileygaming9488 3 роки тому +7

      I'm a gate guard at a cereal factory, and i'm always doing what i can to make their job a little easier, offering them a spot on the lot to chill if they need to wait, try to get them unloaded a little earlier if unloading is open, etc. So i genuinely hope it makes their job a little easier

    • @StormHunter71
      @StormHunter71 3 роки тому +1

      @@daileygaming9488 it really does, as a driver of 23 years I appreciate your efforts

    • @StormHunter71
      @StormHunter71 3 роки тому +1

      @@ciscobriones5904 if its never happy or a stress free day every day then it might be time for a career change, yes some days suck but if it was every day I would have hung up the keys long ago

  • @alanrobison3298
    @alanrobison3298 2 роки тому +3

    I was a company driver for 22 years and I know exactly what you have to deal with. Being a O/O has it's advantages in that you have complete control of the freight that you are hauling. Your work ethic is commendable and I am impressed.

  • @miked9104
    @miked9104 3 роки тому +12

    It’s great that you are in a good position to negotiate and demand a fair and equitable deal for someone else’s incompetence. Really sad that there are probably many truckers out there that would end up paying for some other jerk’s mistake. 😐😐

  • @Saddletramp1200
    @Saddletramp1200 3 роки тому +6

    Wife & I spent 14 years going to places we had never been before. I drove 31 years. Never got tired of OTR. I subscribed to your Gig. You have style young man,

  • @baxterfarmandhomestead7481
    @baxterfarmandhomestead7481 4 роки тому +76

    You’re the one with leverage! The loads is on your trailer! Hold it until you get exactly what you need! The load is in your possession and you can provost was refused! I had that happen with a load of coconut oil! I ended up with receiver refusing and shipper refusing to pay back haul. I warehoused it. A week later they saw I wasn’t playing. I ended up getting even more because I told them they owed the warehouse bill, back haul, and shipping back. Told broker when we get the money you get it back. Unless they want to take it up in court!

    • @jberry1982
      @jberry1982 4 роки тому +12

      Yes sir you tell them or the broker you'll just store it in the warehouse and charge them storage per day long as you honored your end of the contract your good they'll pay

    • @Rat-Builder
      @Rat-Builder 3 роки тому +5

      @@jberry1982 Many many years ago a friend of mine was hauling for Far West, and they started to not pay for the truck, and then they did not pay for him OR the truck. He took the load that he had loaded, and stashed it out in the boondocks. He then said that it would stay there until he got paid. They actually sent men to "change" his mind. He sent them packing quite quickly. He actually WAS quite the bad ass. He was a nice guy until you did something like this to him.
      He got paid, he delivered the freight, and then never hauled for them again. If I remember right there was a ripple effect for Far West. I hope that Far west was the right name, this was 45+ years ago. LOL

    • @alvinreed9231
      @alvinreed9231 3 роки тому

      @@jberry1982 j

    • @milkshake1993
      @milkshake1993 3 роки тому

      Maybe, but that will probably get you a 411 report for load hostaging

  • @kenn346
    @kenn346 4 роки тому +14

    I just found your channel and enjoyed this video. As there was a absence of swear words, especially the F bomb which is so prevalent today. And because you presented a positive Christian demeanor and ended with a "God Bless" I knew I had to subscribe. Thank you!

  • @karenray7925
    @karenray7925 4 роки тому +18

    Thank YOU FOR ALL YOU DO , YOU ARE APPERCIATED MORE THAN YOU KNOW . MAY THE LORD BLESS AND KEEP YOU ALL SAFE AND YOUR FAMILY ALSO. BE PRAYING FOR YOU.

  • @jodypowell1961
    @jodypowell1961 4 роки тому +205

    No problem just open the back and start selling sinks for half price!!!!!!

    • @leerouse2001
      @leerouse2001 3 роки тому +22

      You actually can't do that it's called embezzlement, you have to wait till everything is completely released and only released in your hands due to the fact you haven't got paid they have to sign off. Just a little hint keep your ass out of trouble

    • @GraduatedIn
      @GraduatedIn 3 роки тому +29

      Popeye Rouse miss the joke much?

    • @TheMattc999
      @TheMattc999 3 роки тому +19

      @@GraduatedIn some people have no sense of humor whatsoever. And if it comes to sarcasm they get _really_ lost....

    • @warriorwk
      @warriorwk 3 роки тому +17

      @@GraduatedIn pretty sure that he got it, he was just educating people as to the actual legality of the situation because some idiot's believe everything they see or hear from the internet

    • @warriorwk
      @warriorwk 3 роки тому +7

      @@leerouse2001 I was thinking felony theft but embezzlement makes sense

  • @randallmidgley7589
    @randallmidgley7589 3 роки тому +4

    The cost of waiting is essential to include.
    I had a warehouse refuse, so returned to distributer, paid both ways, had to return it the next day, a union shop trying to make an impression on new driver. So got paid 3 x for 1 load, never let them forget it, as this was an everyday drop.

  • @toxic1venom
    @toxic1venom 4 роки тому +33

    My dad always told me, the quickest way to get someone's attention is thru their wallet. Make them ****** pay.

  • @pw603
    @pw603 4 роки тому +15

    Great job making them pay your rate, had a similar situation a few years back, worked out fine in the end, had a good broker, but it raised the blood pressure for a minute.

  • @JSmith-kh4vo
    @JSmith-kh4vo 4 роки тому +51

    If I ever get my own truck you've just taught me how to handle a situation like this, great video!

    • @JustTruckin
      @JustTruckin  4 роки тому +11

      Work towards it Bud you can do it thank you so much for watching God bless

    • @notsorry9066
      @notsorry9066 4 роки тому +9

      Now is not the time to get crazy in debt buying your own truck. Thjngs are about to go from bad to waaay worse. The world is imploding. Things are going haywire, less everything, newworld order taking over and starving the people, nothing to buy, people losing their jobs, etc.

    • @mikeherdz1654
      @mikeherdz1654 4 роки тому +8

      @@notsorry9066 I need some of that meth u smoking, bro

    • @13699111
      @13699111 4 роки тому +4

      Big sale of sink's on eBay ,HA!!!

    • @joshcecil5892
      @joshcecil5892 4 роки тому +7

      @@notsorry9066 take the plunge. Life is too short to wait for the world to end

  • @RevinKevDrummer
    @RevinKevDrummer 4 роки тому +9

    As an owner op myself, I stay out of Orlando good paying loads going in , but crappy paying loads coming out. Best of luck and stay safe out there.

  • @michaelrains2268
    @michaelrains2268 4 роки тому +49

    So happy that you stuck to your guns on this account, love the chapter n verse of John 3.16 on the back of your tractor! God bless! 🙏👍😊🏝🌅

  • @peter8488
    @peter8488 4 роки тому +21

    The moment you said C.H. Robinson I face palmed, oh lord.

    • @billhager3811
      @billhager3811 3 роки тому

      never had a problem with them in the 80's CH that is

  • @dalesmith5222
    @dalesmith5222 4 роки тому +28

    I used to deliver to Hughes Supply in another city. They are a pain in the ass!

  • @tonytrumble
    @tonytrumble 3 роки тому +3

    I miss the road. I used to be an otr driver from 1988 to 2009, I had a bad rollover accident which has made me 100% disabled! I'd love to be out there still being a paid tourist! Love the channel!

    • @JustTruckin
      @JustTruckin  3 роки тому +1

      Ts/Ps bud thank you for watching

    • @tonytrumble
      @tonytrumble 3 роки тому +1

      @@JustTruckin great content! And excellent advice!! Love the Ram pickup too👍👍

  • @troypeck4128
    @troypeck4128 3 роки тому +2

    Pin lock for the trailer. They work fantastic. Been a tractor/trailer mechanic for 21 years and those pin locks work the best.

  • @jjl499
    @jjl499 4 роки тому +83

    Worst part about driving truck is actually finding buildings that have the correct address

    • @metalmusic4958
      @metalmusic4958 4 роки тому

      Do the zip codes help much in the US ? Here in England the postcode is quite useful when using satnav.

    • @swaghauler8334
      @swaghauler8334 4 роки тому +6

      @Nick Ulm And every GPS seems to be off at least one building in an industrial park.

    • @956urdaddy
      @956urdaddy 3 роки тому +1

      Just look it up on google that’s what I do

    • @metalmusic4958
      @metalmusic4958 3 роки тому

      @Nick Ulm yes it's as I thought. You need British built sat navs.

    • @jjl499
      @jjl499 3 роки тому +3

      956urdaddy yes but when you have large buildings with one address and you have to find the one loading dock it can be frustrating as all hell.

  • @dispatcheztrucking9739
    @dispatcheztrucking9739 4 роки тому +37

    When the broker can't solve the problem on a decent time and manner just tell them you are taking the trailer to your yard and in addition to the trip you charge $200 dollar per day for storage. Try to work with small brokerage companies, you will develop a much better bussines relation and they will always check with you for future loads, just check their credit before you close the deal.

    • @tech4pros1
      @tech4pros1 4 роки тому +13

      and have a nice watertight contract of haulage, with a clear table of rates and charges covering such eventualities so they can't weasel their way out of paying.. the cost of writing one up and running it past a haulage experienced attorney will soon pay for itself when crap like this inevitably happens.

    • @Halopa60
      @Halopa60 4 роки тому +4

      @@tech4pros1 , now that is helpful advice and anyone in the business would do well to follow it because it's a cutthroat world out there and...when problems like this arise, reminding shippers/brokers to review the contract can hopefully prevent some of these protracted situations that cost drivers time and money. You seem like a smart guy, do you have a UA-cam channel I can follow?😁

  • @BRI33NOR
    @BRI33NOR 4 роки тому +4

    I used to do work for a local area council, after waiting for my money a few times I added a footnote to my invoices. If paid by the due date the price was as stated, if not it carried a 5% credit charge per month. I found it mostly worked and I got paid on time.

  • @Kactapuss
    @Kactapuss 3 роки тому +10

    Hey Man, you got a great attitude, sticking up for yourself, finding solutions and keeping your cool. Glad I found your channel. Keep it up.

  • @michaelhenson9507
    @michaelhenson9507 4 роки тому +15

    I delivered AC units to a consignee, just to find they'd loaded 30 back on for return to shipper from a previous order and figured I'd make it my problem.

  • @TheMinnow101
    @TheMinnow101 4 роки тому +6

    Two things: First, I would never take another load to this place, ever. Second, from now on I would call the receiver and confirm the load and when you'll be delivering it. No more showing up unannounced. Another side benefit is that you can confirm the drop off address.

    • @JustTruckin
      @JustTruckin  4 роки тому +3

      Very good info thank you so much if I wasn’t getting paid the same back up I would be a little more angry thank you for watching God bless

    • @wannabefulltimers
      @wannabefulltimers 4 роки тому

      I'm not a trucker but that is excellent advice.

    • @Halopa60
      @Halopa60 4 роки тому

      Carl Jones, good advice. I've know that some driver's always call the receiver to not only verify the address but hours of operation as well. The little time it takes can save you a lot of headaches and I know that should not be the driver's responsibility but it's almost always the driver who ends up paying in the end for someone else's mistake so why not do everything reasonable to protect yourself. 🚚

    • @skrill5407
      @skrill5407 3 роки тому +1

      Totally agree with 2nd @Carl Jones. As a former long hauler that was the first thing I did once loaded. Called the receiver. Several reasons. confirm appointment time or could I bring it in early, and to let them know I'm on the way with it, and what time I thought I could get it there; directions to the delivery. (now more and more of y'all use that gps thing and don't know how to read maps, but i'm old school. Towards the end people would say.."I don't know how to get here i just follow my gps." like really?) Next I'd ask them is there a place I can park overnight on your property. Rarely used truck stops for other than fuel & showers. I was never an O/O but worked for a few that had from 1 to under 500 trucks. In my mind it's always good business to communicate your intentions with the customers. God Bless, and thanks to everyone of ya'll for the sacrifices you make to keep them big wheels rollin and keep our shelves stocked. Peace.

    • @spankthemonkey3437
      @spankthemonkey3437 3 роки тому

      @@wannabefulltimers me either but I'm half way there I got a base CB radio station at home

  • @CONTAINERMAN68
    @CONTAINERMAN68 4 роки тому +30

    If the order was received 3 weeks prior, why didn't someone cancel that order that you're carrying? Lack of warehouse space: not your problem. $120 extension: not your problem. You were paid to deliver a load that was ordered by the receiver. If the receiver refuses the load, they better pay you to return the load.

    • @Cheepchipsable
      @Cheepchipsable 3 роки тому

      They don't care whose problem, just that they can get out of it as cheaply as possible.
      If they could get drivers working for 1 cent a day they wouldn't care.

    • @kenheisner288
      @kenheisner288 3 роки тому

      True that if they could find a way to not pay they would

  • @cmspet1
    @cmspet1 4 роки тому +5

    You played that perfectly. Most O/O's who have done this long enough have had similar situations, and the ball is always in your court. It happened to me last year on a reefer load hauling flavorings for food manufacturing. Receiver didn't want the load and I wound up getting 3 days layover and double the rate they paid to haul it 2200 miles. It turns out one pallet of high end chocolate extract on my trailer was worth over $80,000 and they wanted it back. It was a good week.

  • @miyoung918
    @miyoung918 4 роки тому +5

    You handled it like a true Professional Truck Driver. Relatively new to your channel but have thoroughly enjoyed the ride so far. Hope to see your channel grow exponentially as you deserve it. Stay Safe.

    • @JustTruckin
      @JustTruckin  4 роки тому +1

      Thank you so much for the kind words and thank you so much for watching God bless

  • @kingmike40
    @kingmike40 4 роки тому +10

    I had a partial rejection only about 5 pallets. They had me take it to a LTL carrier and they took it from there.

  • @carlcarpentier
    @carlcarpentier 3 роки тому +2

    Hey brother! Just stumbled on to your channel while staying home with COVID these past couple weeks. What caught me off guard is when you past my red crappy Ford Taurus behind a tree at 3:16 of the video when you went to HD Supply looking for Hughes. I am one of the tractor-trailer drivers at HD Supply. Just wanted to say thanks for your entertaining video content, and you are blessed to have a supportive wife and some pretty cool kids! I have subscribed and will be looking forward to following your journey. (Oh yeah, we're not all asses in Orlando like the people at Hughes!) One more thing, when I first heard your voice watching the first video, you are a dead ringer for WWE's John Cena! Stay safe out there!

  • @BigRockyD
    @BigRockyD 3 роки тому +25

    Tell you what brother I smiled big when you eventually ended up at the beach and showed it. Props to you for taking the good with the bad!

  • @denster9566
    @denster9566 3 роки тому +5

    I was a broker for 35 years. I worked for people and then I had my own for 20 years. I have a clue as they say.
    I loved working with owner operators like you. You don't get emotional you state the facts and it was my job to get them done. I was usually successful on behalf of my drivers which brought me many drivers and so I had my own business for a long time. This is why I hope your videos are successful it's the way you speak that is so important which is why I was successful and you will be too.
    Oh, and one more thing. Most of the time the broker is being hung up with making a decision or presenting you what your looking for. We have to have permission to agree to the new rates whether it comes from our boss, we make it ourselves, or the shipper pays, we do get hung up trying to clarify that process most of the time.

  • @jaycroyle8761
    @jaycroyle8761 4 роки тому +6

    Good job sticking to your guns, good thing you know what you are doing, just learned from this, thanks for sharing.

  • @nanafarm1952
    @nanafarm1952 3 роки тому

    Being an independent trucker is a hard way to go. We ran 9 trucks and owned our own traiers, flats and containers. This same thing happened to my husband once and luckily he was close enough to home that he just dropped the load and grabbed another trailer. I guess you could say he held the load hostage behind our yard gates, but you might be surprised at how fast they came to his terms to get his costs covered and mileage plus fuel. He didn't make money but he wasn't sitting around playing the waiting game like his truck time wasn't important. He did quit working for that broker after that. Keep on trucking. You are what is keeping America alive. God bless.

  • @farmerjer9339
    @farmerjer9339 3 роки тому +1

    Im up in Canada where "proffesional" truckers are a dying breed! Keep up the good work!

  • @mresch8
    @mresch8 4 роки тому +26

    I4 through Orlando is always under construction, and traffic always sucks.

    • @ronniewilliz153
      @ronniewilliz153 3 роки тому

      Fl road work never ends iv been here 30 years an its always tearing up medians an foxing water main breaks lol

    • @Rat-Builder
      @Rat-Builder 3 роки тому

      I live in Idaho, and use to live in Nevada. These 2 states have 2 seasons! Winter, and road construction!

  • @kelvintorrence5994
    @kelvintorrence5994 4 роки тому +11

    I get that all the time I have been hauling for the same company g or 12 years and I can't count the times the employees when off about me hauling their junk.i tell them tell some 1 who cares it's not me.i just haul the crap I am not in love with it.

  • @leerouse2001
    @leerouse2001 3 роки тому +22

    I truck as an owner and operator, I owned five trucks at one time. for many years I dealt with brokers you name it stick to your guns brother trucker

  • @The19bull52
    @The19bull52 4 роки тому +1

    I had a water company in New Jersey load 6 packs instead of 12 packs. They wouldn’t allow you on the dock or to seal your trailer. It went to Orlando, FL. JB Hunt was trying to pay me Florida rate and I told them I wanted the rate it came down for plus 250$. They agreed and sent me a rate confirmation. Their only other option is to cross dock to another carrier.

  • @jeniferb4183
    @jeniferb4183 4 роки тому +4

    Double a really great rate. Sucks you didn’t get detention or layover. But better than actually finding a different cheap load back out. Good luck out there 😎

  • @bradleygoode116
    @bradleygoode116 4 роки тому +7

    had this to happen years ago when i was a company driver, my dispatcher told me that it was written in to the contract to haul that if the load is refused they have to pay to return the load to the shipper, so im sure ch robinson has it spelled out in the contract how much the charge is to return the load if this is to happen, this could be a lesser charge than the full rate or more. if this went to court the judge would award the trucker the same rate either way plus detention after 2 or 3 hours of waiting however ch robinson has it in the contract.

    • @rangerrider5
      @rangerrider5 3 роки тому

      Really depends. I used to schedule FTL loads for my company, one broker we used had a refusal rate but it was only applicable to certain lanes and I believe was limited to certain times of the year as well.
      What I will say is that it is just as hard for shippers to get ahold of carriers when we are trying to figure out where the drivers are that were an hour away five hours ago.
      Also, I see alot of detention rates thrown around in this thread. This really makes me question the rates that we paid and just how much the broker was keeping of that on top of what we paid for loads.

  • @terryj-londonontariocanada4605
    @terryj-londonontariocanada4605 4 роки тому +2

    Good for you standing up to these culprits. Drivers need to know that they are the captains of their ship.

  • @joshithankenapalli5701
    @joshithankenapalli5701 4 роки тому +14

    I am amazed on how you do some many things while having the job of a truck driver. Keep up the work :D

  • @gwechoochoo
    @gwechoochoo 3 роки тому +3

    The way you handled this was as professional as I have ever seen. Plus sand under your feet and a kick ass burrito. Thanks for the videos. Liked and subscribed.

  • @bbbykelly
    @bbbykelly 4 роки тому +21

    Love it! Really enjoy seeing how shady these brokers are.

  • @pnwRC.
    @pnwRC. 4 роки тому +1

    I DON'T miss long haul at all! I did it for 2 years as a team driver. I think the part that ALWAYS got me was you ask, is a lumper needed, & get told NOPE. When you arrive at destination, they want you to hire a lumper, OR be their laborer, & move the freight for them fro FREEE!
    After long haul, I went to hauling logs. After 10 years truckin logs, I went to dump trucks. I've been in teh industry for 23 years now. Some of the things that happen just make ya scratch your head & wonder.

    • @JustTruckin
      @JustTruckin  4 роки тому +1

      Thank you for all you’ve done for America and keeping us going God bless and thanks for watching

    • @pnwRC.
      @pnwRC. 4 роки тому

      @@JustTruckin Without you, & the rest of the freight haulers, what I currently do wouldn't be possible!

  • @chefwest77
    @chefwest77 4 роки тому +2

    New sub here driver of 2+ yrs under 30 and a local driver for FedEx frieght been kicking around the idea of otr and I am enjoying the videos so far man👍 love the tips on the inns and outs of the owner op world, totally different from just being a big company driver. Keep up the good vids man👌

  • @runtellthatlol2234
    @runtellthatlol2234 4 роки тому +5

    I remember these days hated when it happens I be saying I want 2.5 times the rate otherwise I'm dropping trailer at a yard

  • @kingdomseeker88
    @kingdomseeker88 3 роки тому +11

    10:50 Sorry for showing up with your stuff LOL It's also hilarious when people are upset when I arrive early. #drivesafe

    • @JustTruckin
      @JustTruckin  3 роки тому +3

      Exactly 🤷🏽‍♂️🙏🏽

  • @patriciaalexander9751
    @patriciaalexander9751 4 роки тому +8

    I used to love those delivery addresses that turned out to be an empty lot.

  • @jasonredman2719
    @jasonredman2719 4 роки тому +2

    I have been in the trucking business long 16 yrs on an off the only thing that surprises me is that anything can an dose happen .way to hang in there good job stay safe😇😇.ps did everything work out with your brothers new house

    • @JustTruckin
      @JustTruckin  4 роки тому

      His new house is awesome man thank you so much for checking in God bless thanks for watching

  • @Tuzlak22
    @Tuzlak22 4 роки тому +7

    What if the receiver is scamming the supplier? If employees figure out the system, if both addresses receive the products for multiple destinations, and they rotate. First address orders it and routes you to Second address, second address ordered same thing and they have confirmation letter that they received it. Even though first address legitimately still needs it, second address play the game with shipper and postponed the payment because they use it to their advantage.

  • @watomb
    @watomb 4 роки тому +8

    Love it great move not bad for 3 days work and miles on your truck

    • @Philthaentrepreneur
      @Philthaentrepreneur 4 роки тому +1

      535 ain’t but two day trip sir up and back 1000 miles 🤦🏽‍♂️🤦🏽‍♂️🤦🏽‍♂️

  • @GoodOlBoy1976
    @GoodOlBoy1976 4 роки тому +2

    Back when I was driving truck before I left the shipper I always called the receiver to tell them I was loaded and headed their way. I had a few that told me they already received the shippment.

  • @taistingtheair1368
    @taistingtheair1368 4 роки тому +8

    Old trick, if you get held up for delivery then you tell the parties involved that if the wait is to long (to be determined) then the shipment will be unloaded into a warehouse and they will have to pay for storage and double shipping of the rate. They will have so many days to pay for storage and shipment before the shipment will be liquidated. (Check local laws)
    You might consider also buying a 5th wheel pin lock.
    Those rates are close to rates 30 years ago when fuel was 50 cents a gallon and the expenses were 1/3 or 1/4 as much and less restrictive regulations.

  • @peglegstacker
    @peglegstacker 3 роки тому +4

    I know the feeling i drove a truck for 22 years ,i've seen it all ,i would still be driving if i hadn't had my leg amputated !

  • @ronaldrickard3551
    @ronaldrickard3551 3 роки тому +7

    Damn been on the other side , trying to figure out who orderd what b4 unloading when oddball material came in , no matter how many time i emailed out to contact me on oddball shipments nobody did Retired Jan 2019 I dont miss it.

  • @TheCalWillden
    @TheCalWillden 3 роки тому

    I use to run a warehouse and distribution department for a large manufacturer here in Charlotte. We had some warehouse space we didn't use at all, no racks or bins. I knew a lot of truckers and if they had something happen like what happened to you, they would give me a call and I'd open that part of the warehouse and let them unload their truck until they got the money straightened out. They ALWAYS got their money before it would qualify as abandoned property, plus a heafty storage fee. I got taken care of by them!

  • @williejaster
    @williejaster Місяць тому +1

    I acknowledge that this is an old story, but noticed something that I have to comment on. That gladhand lock shown is as useless as a screen door on a submarine. Easily removed with basic hand tools in about 30 seconds without causing any damage, & just as easily put back on in the same amount of time. Only really secure lock is the kingpin lock.

  • @jerrydyke2291
    @jerrydyke2291 4 роки тому +4

    Good video!👍Good Standing your ground.Well I see it's the same as it was in the late 80's,No good paying loads coming outta Florida,and I always pulled a 48 ft Reefer! Have a good rest of tha day and God bless! Keep it between tha Ditches!👍😁

  • @CONTAINERMAN68
    @CONTAINERMAN68 4 роки тому +6

    Always call ahead, tell them who you are, trucking company you drive for, where you picked up, what you picked up and then give them a PO #. That way they can tell you where to go. The address on your bills were for the main office more than likely, but they have different buildings for different products that they sell.

    • @terrismith9095
      @terrismith9095 3 роки тому

      The address was old. He was told they moved to a new building the week prior.

  • @kennethpensyl7791
    @kennethpensyl7791 3 роки тому

    I'm glad you have the camera and microphone to document what is happening in shipping. I'm not surprised at the difficulties that you encounter. And I'm glad to learn about it, thank you.

  • @jaybiediger6773
    @jaybiediger6773 3 роки тому

    I’m not a professional warehouseman, but I’ve worked for several companies where part of my job was getting trucks loaded/unloaded. I always try to get trucks loaded or unloaded promptly and respect the driver’s time. (Although there are some crazy drivers, I had a Russian out of Canada who screamed at me I had to find him a mechanic to fix his truck before he died from the Texas heat). Frequently I would tell a driver who was worried they were going to be a little late or too early “Just get here, and we’ll get you unloaded and back out on the road.”
    To avoid the “not it” game, most drivers who haven’t been to my location before call me within 24 hours of arrival to confirm loading/unloading hours, what gate and direction to enter, exact directions, etc so they didn’t have to wander around looking for us, or get into a situation they can’t maneuver out of. Nowadays, it’s usually easy to send them a dropped pin down to the exact gate they need to enter.
    When possible on regular runs, I deal directly with the drivers, without the brokers taking a cut I can pay a little less, and the driver can make a little more.
    Love your neighbor as yourself, follow the Golden Rule, and life is better for everyone.

  • @barnkieth3857
    @barnkieth3857 3 роки тому +5

    I give you a lot of credit on your calm relax demeanor.

    • @dabmaster9039
      @dabmaster9039 3 роки тому

      Anger solves nothing wisdom solves everything

  • @Godsman_42
    @Godsman_42 4 роки тому +3

    Hey, could you have called the receiver before you left? And made sure that the load is good? This is a great lesson for me....next year at some point I'll buy a truck. God bless you bro...you do have a great attitude too.

  • @abqpinkman
    @abqpinkman 4 роки тому +2

    Playing the waiting game, trying see if you're bluffing. Also gets a kinpin lock and some of those glad hand locks you can buy in big brand truck stops are cheap hard plastic and can easily be broken with hammer or tire bat. The glad hand locks that are hard rubberized are the ones you want.

    • @kp__truckin
      @kp__truckin 4 роки тому +1

      Yep king pin lock but carry plastic grocery bags to cover king pin from grease👍✌🏻🚛💨

  • @ForrestGump1212
    @ForrestGump1212 3 роки тому

    that red lock is called a glad hand lock :) I work at a distribution center and we are required to use one, and chock the trailer tires when we load or unload a trailer

  • @jams4041
    @jams4041 3 роки тому +5

    So, that company ordered the shipment and when it arrived they didn't have the money and refused it with a BS excuse. People get an attitude when they are wrong and you only ask very simple challenging questions. You handle this situation like a professional.

  • @Mike-cv7hv
    @Mike-cv7hv 4 роки тому +5

    Stuff like this is why i left trucking. If the wheels don't turn I don't get paid.

  • @waynebrogdon9628
    @waynebrogdon9628 3 роки тому +1

    One thing I did when cell phones came out is called the shipper/receiver for directions in because bills can be wrong and gps’s are screwy

  • @_A4A
    @_A4A 4 роки тому +1

    Hahahahaha!... The part where you say that you are going to go and get a burrito and the sound you made right after @ 24:40, had everybody in the room watching your video CRACKING UP!... 🤣🤣🤣

  • @cynthiatolman326
    @cynthiatolman326 4 роки тому +4

    Were they thinking you wanted double the rate you got to take it down? As in if you were paid $1550 initially and now want $3100 to bring it back? The 'double rate' wording might have been confusing at least, in the beginning. What you wanted was reasonable, we can't let them intimidate us, thanks for the lesson.

  • @royspencer9344
    @royspencer9344 3 роки тому +14

    With CH Robison as broker don't hold your breath waiting on that broker. I've dealt with them before.

    • @garywendeln7114
      @garywendeln7114 3 роки тому

      C H Robinson ......that's really all that needs to be said ..

  • @ICRedsox
    @ICRedsox 3 роки тому +1

    I’ve delivered to advance auto in Gastonia, I delivered the warehouse racks when they were updating their distribution center. Great people there. Very friendly and accommodating.

  • @404TRUCKERTV
    @404TRUCKERTV 3 роки тому +2

    yep, i had calgate load to Walmart. same shit. hold your guns, they will pay because you have the freight. that freight is worth at least a quarter of a million retail. it took them a week to pay but they paid triple the rate.

  • @stevencruz9112
    @stevencruz9112 4 роки тому +6

    I think a lot of people are skeptical of who carrying the virus. And I work for HD supply here in Brooklyn, NY. Seems like how a warehouse would work call you into the dock and then realized the order is for down the street

  • @ggbbqsamsulagilbert5719
    @ggbbqsamsulagilbert5719 4 роки тому +5

    Zurn is much bigger than HD supply .they will charge $3100.00 in restocking fees.

    • @rabbitintheview1581
      @rabbitintheview1581 4 роки тому +1

      Zurn is not even on the fortune 500 list, but HD Supply is ranked 479.
      But you're right about the restock fee. I sold Zurn for 20 years

  • @ronstoudt717
    @ronstoudt717 3 роки тому

    i worked at hughes supply i 1972-1985. They were bought buy home depot , henceforth HD supply. Big companies , big business. Glad you are firm in your ways and not there for charities or donations of your work and truck. Like your attitude. Keep trucking.

  • @hectordrake6535
    @hectordrake6535 4 роки тому +1

    that's exactly how to handle that situation because you are not JUST a truck driver YOU ARE A BUSSINES OWNER. I hope every owner operator out there watch this video and LEARN. Thank YOU

  • @rodgercottrill3342
    @rodgercottrill3342 4 роки тому +25

    People have no respect any more

  • @rollinghillstrucking
    @rollinghillstrucking 4 роки тому +7

    Gotta love finding places on the fly

  • @radarmike6713
    @radarmike6713 4 роки тому +1

    Next time you tell them. Same rate for return. Will not haul till payment approved in writing. And they have 60min to approve of you will removed freight from trailer and or you charge 250/hr to broker and shipper for making you sit and wait. I've done that and it goes quick for me

  • @briankingwelding4531
    @briankingwelding4531 4 роки тому

    Just a FYI, get a good forged alloy kingpin lock, they are VERY DIFFICULT to remove.
    Those glad hand locks can be popped off in seconds or the brakes can just be backed off.
    If you can't hook up to it then you can't steal it

  • @rout9291
    @rout9291 4 роки тому +4

    Good job on holding your ground but I think your down time has value as well I think you should have burned them on your down time on top of freight return? Mike

  • @mark2gmtrans
    @mark2gmtrans 4 роки тому +10

    Great video brother, I've been doing this over 30 years and you are right, stick to your guns. If only we could educate the morons who run dirt cheap on the fact that if we all demand, let me yell it DEMAND, a higher rate, then the shippers, brokers, and the rest will have zero choice. Over 90% of all trucks are small companies and owner operators, we control this, except for the fact that we allow a certain sector of the industry to keep hauling cheap freight.
    Those trucks with the dingleberries hanging all around the windshield, and the track suits with their feet on the dash of a volvo have got to be forced to either bring the rates up or get out.

  • @johnmeadows5645
    @johnmeadows5645 2 роки тому

    Oh boy, this reminds me of my truck driving days. I was a company driver and never received any payment for layovers.

  • @karstenb4669
    @karstenb4669 3 роки тому

    I'm not a driver, been on a couple runs back in the late 70's with a friend. I'm glad you stuck to your guns. You guys are the life line of America. Specially through this pandemic. You seem to be a good family man, Happy New Year to you and your family. And to all those drivers out there, have a safe and healthy New Year.

  • @karmageddon1535
    @karmageddon1535 4 роки тому +4

    Next time this should happen you should tell them that your detention rate is $20. an hour and the longer they take to decide the higher the bill gets!

    • @ronaldmacpherson4380
      @ronaldmacpherson4380 3 роки тому

      20 dollars an hr? I have $250,000 invested in truck and trailer......$20 isn't going to cut it!!!! Just sayin

  • @CONTAINERMAN68
    @CONTAINERMAN68 4 роки тому +3

    I don't get to do any of that, getting my feet wet or a shrimp taco. I deliver, drive, reload, leave Florida!

  • @bamafan762
    @bamafan762 3 роки тому +1

    Awesome job at keeping your cool and having class.. Some people are just miserable at work and even in life in general. Job well done. I lost my job in April due to covid and actually just started truck driving school this week. Although I won't be jumping right in to owner/operator all your tips about the industry and driving are awesome. Keep up the good work and be safe!!

  • @wayneparke554
    @wayneparke554 3 роки тому

    I use CH Robinson!
    I have never had one of my vendors double ship an order.
    I always try to unload my inbound within minutes.
    The only time to reject in inbound is if the trucking company has destroyed the freight.