Fixed wing flight controllers: Which to use

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  • @KnutNukem
    @KnutNukem 5 років тому +18

    Guys, just wanted to say that this is one of the few communities on UA-cam, where it's not life threatening to look in the comments. Awesome!

    • @Painless360
      @Painless360  5 років тому +8

      See the note in every video description. I don't tolerate hateful, rude or disrespectful language in comments. This channel is about sharing knowledge and enjoying the hobby as a community. Thanks for the comment.. :D

    • @Ruzwa
      @Ruzwa 3 роки тому

      @@Painless360 Was out of the hobby a few years and back then Bruce (rcmodelreviews) was my source of information. I'm back now and I must say I really love your videos. Keep up the good work!

  • @theflyinggreek6329
    @theflyinggreek6329 5 років тому +3

    Thank you for the video. I am currently building a Mini Drak using the Brain FPV INAV FC and so far have found the setup to be very easy. Just waiting on my M8N module to show up to finish the project. Thank you for the work you do, it is greatly appreciated.

  • @raytron1138
    @raytron1138 5 років тому +2

    Thank you as always for taking the time to keep us all up to date. Very useful.

  • @leadfoot1131
    @leadfoot1131 5 років тому +3

    Nice video Lee. Can I request that when you put together your FC comparison for 2019 you include details of OSD facilities. After your series using the brain the OSD function looked great but I do not have a great deal of info about the OSD available on other FC's. Keep up the good work :-))) ...

  • @nevillecreativitymentor
    @nevillecreativitymentor Рік тому

    Verey educational and informative. This is the first time I came across the F Rating... learnt something new. CHEERS

  • @KnutNukem
    @KnutNukem 4 роки тому

    Thank you for adding the date right at the beginning!

  • @essaysinabox9537
    @essaysinabox9537 4 роки тому

    Great video, but I should clarify, Pixhawk is an open hardware project: it's absolutely not a closed source product. Anyone can legally build and brand a device as a Pixhawk provided that it conforms to certain publicly available schematics and standards. As such, there really isn't any such thing as a Pixhawk "clone". Some people consider 3DR Pixhawks to be the "original" Pixhawk, but in fact even some of their versions had issues, such as the 1MB flash limit problem.

  • @causticfpv5857
    @causticfpv5857 4 роки тому

    Lee another wonderful and informative video mate, absolutely one of my favorite channels.

  • @dempa3
    @dempa3 5 років тому

    Great video! There are several of us looking eagerly forward to the Ardupilot on Omnibus F4 (or similar) video! Would be a great build for this summer's adventures!
    Edit: OHOHOHO! Sneakpeaking into the playlists section brought me to the wonderful videos that I have been waiting for! Many, many thanks Lee!

    • @Painless360
      @Painless360  5 років тому +1

      Series being uploaded now and you can preview them using the playlist..

    • @leveckfamily8841
      @leveckfamily8841 5 років тому

      @@Painless360 I FINALLY got my Revolution Mini working with Ardupilot. I struggled with trying to figure out what I could possibly be doing wrong and it turned out I was going through the motions but didn't know why I was doing what I was doing.
      So there's another guy who did the same thing. I couldn't make it work with the info he provided. Time passes I forget all about till you do your video. Thinking I'll try it one more time.....
      No mas.
      So then I watched them both back to back.
      He gives a description of how it works and you do one that's better on how to make it work.
      Between the two of you and an obscure reference on the Ardupilot website I finally got it.
      It doesn't help that the other video uses beta flight and yours uses inav (or visa versa) and neither of you were using a screen that matches the one that is currently in use on either of those pages.
      And you were using a different flight controller.
      But to have a tiny Blade F-27 working with Ardupilot on a mini Revo is TOTALLY COOL.
      Something that small with that much technology is so awesome.
      Now I'm going to scratch build an "engineered wing" that Samm Shepard built. Only I'm building a BIG mamma jamma. I want to convert the Ramtec OS . 91 ducted fan unit out of my Yellow Aircraft F-4 to an electric inrunner and mount it inside the wing so you can't see it at all. I'm. Going to use Samm's wing design with a blended center section that will look a little like an X-8 blended wing.
      It should be glorious at 8-10 feet, and if it works well scaled up I'm going to go 16 feet with a turbine that's been sitting on my bench for 3 years now....
      Thanks for the inspiration.

  • @100SteveB
    @100SteveB 5 років тому +1

    Certainly looking forward to learning more about porting the Ardupilot family onto boards other than Pixhawk. Having spent a few years using Ardupilot i am very comfortable with it, it's thought thought of having to learn a new system from scratch that's put me off trying other boards. Built in osd would be a reason i would try another board - not that i do not have osd with Pixhawk, i still use the minimosd boards, old school, but still work great with the Pixhawk, and displays everything i need it to. It's just a pain having to have that extra board somewhere on the craft.

    • @Painless360
      @Painless360  5 років тому

      You can preview the videos by checking out the playlists - I'm currently making them but the first two are on the channel ready for next month.. ;)

  • @tabdougherty8549
    @tabdougherty8549 5 років тому

    I have been amazed at ardupilot"s ability to pilot. The software is truly amazing to me. INAV in contrast is also really cool until you try Ardupilot ! The Chibios ..? port for omnibus v3 boards makes an instant robot out of my wings. I flew 3 consecutive missions with auto land perfectly. Then had a go in FBWA and walked to retrieve my plane from the neighbors yard, LOL. MAYBE I can edit video so it looks like I landed it!!!
    I am simply amazed at the software!
    Thanks for all the work you do!!

    • @Painless360
      @Painless360  5 років тому

      I've been impressed too - the Arduplane/Omnibus build into that little 600mm wing makes it one of the most versatile, capable wings I own! Currently building a Matek F405-Wing powered AR wing with more cool tech on it.. Very cool stuff indeed..

  • @jameskaplan1932
    @jameskaplan1932 5 років тому

    Lux F7 would be an interesting candidate for an ardupilot wing build. Dual camera switching and S5-S8 for servos or even running a gimbal/shutter

  • @alanjones4747
    @alanjones4747 5 років тому

    As always, very informative. Got a matek 405-wing, fitted to a large acro plane, mainly for a safety net, need to complete the setup. Need to get back into planes as I mainly fly quads.

    • @Painless360
      @Painless360  5 років тому

      I'm having a blast with fixed wing at the moment and you get less quizzical looks in public places when it's a fixed wing ;)

    • @alanjones4747
      @alanjones4747 5 років тому

      Just got to workout how to program knife edge and flat spin.

  • @MCsCreations
    @MCsCreations 5 років тому

    Fantastic compilation, Lee! Thanks a lot! 😃
    And yeah, I have a Matek 411 Wing here. I just need to buy the pins for soldering. 😃

    • @MarcAntoine01
      @MarcAntoine01 5 років тому +1

      My F405 Wing came with pins, are you sure you didn't threw them away? I have F722 on the way for my skyhunter long range fpv plane!

    • @MCsCreations
      @MCsCreations 5 років тому

      @@MarcAntoine01 No, dude, I just checked here... It's still in the original plastic, I didn't opened it yet. It only comes with the 2 boards and hardware (screws and standoffs and so on). 😕

  • @donphobos
    @donphobos 5 років тому

    This video has opened up a treashurechest of possibilities for me. Thanks for sharing.

  • @rainel1826
    @rainel1826 5 років тому +2

    Excellant video as always. Like a lot of others i'm getting into wings from multirotors and your vids give us everything we need in a nice easy way. Thanks!

  • @yzed971
    @yzed971 5 років тому

    Great video. I use the f405-wing with the chibios building of ardupilot. Very often the hobby grade plane (diy or kit) doesn't have the cargo place for the all pixhawk system.
    You don't like the minim osd board?

    • @Painless360
      @Painless360  5 років тому +1

      I'd like it more if the setup was accessible with a simple USB cable rather than mess about with an FTDI adapter ;) I've made dozens of videos on it but in this modern age it feels a little out of date now..

  • @erikskanes5552
    @erikskanes5552 3 роки тому

    does Pixhawk have a return to home? researching the Pixhawk 2.4.8, thanks. Videos are awesome and informative, great for learning!

  • @FarmerFpv
    @FarmerFpv 5 років тому

    I love the furious f-35 lightning. Even though it's plug and play it's very easy to make a mistake on ivav I have done it plenty of times disarming in the air not being able to rearm because I left my switch on nav launch. All the switches it gets complicated. I'm building a strix strata surfer I put a lot of money into it with 3D printed parts and aluminum parts and a custom canopy that holds a GoPro Hero 7. I was thinking about taking the furious f-35 lightning and put it in my AR wing instead and getting an eagle tree vector s
    Since there's over $1,200 in the air you think it would be the right choice good micro bacteria or the full-sized vector? I would hate just to lose the GoPro Hero .
    Thanks in advance for your help
    And thanks for the stickers again
    Rob

    • @Painless360
      @Painless360  5 років тому

      That's a lot of money to have in the air so I wouldn't try anything I couldn't rely on. The Vector if you want OSD and the Pixhawk cube if you dont.. best of luck!
      P.s. permanently enable nav_launch and then you will not have that problem with iNav ;)

  • @RobbyRCPROBE
    @RobbyRCPROBE 5 років тому +1

    Great comparisson and overview !!!

  • @KTDrones
    @KTDrones 4 роки тому

    how Dows the pixhawk mini stands in here?

  • @IRonen
    @IRonen 5 років тому +2

    I would be happy if you could refer to the sensor for measuring air speed (Pitot). Air speed is critical in a fixed wing. Do all the pilots you mentioned support air speed sensor?

    • @Painless360
      @Painless360  5 років тому +1

      All do.. Se their documentation and build series for more details..

    • @IRonen
      @IRonen 5 років тому

      @@Painless360 thank you for the answer. And special thanks for your wonderful channel.

  • @Omercaran35
    @Omercaran35 5 років тому +1

    Fantastic, I learned so much from you. Thanks

  • @upperechelon3456
    @upperechelon3456 5 років тому

    Excellent video [as usual]. Whats your opinion regarding using the F35 Furious Board and Ardu Pilot? Are they compatible as of this video.
    Thanks

    • @Painless360
      @Painless360  5 років тому

      Yep. Check out the playlists to get a preview of the new Ardupilot series..

  • @damienmilk3025
    @damienmilk3025 5 років тому

    Thanks for your review. I used to use RVOSD but had 2 in a short time period fail in the air. Exit 2 sky hunters. Now using the vector and not looked back.

  • @abdullahal-qahtani9521
    @abdullahal-qahtani9521 5 років тому +2

    Thank you always. You are wonderful and useful. You are a great teacher in helping people
    Greetings to you with a happy life

  • @j3fron
    @j3fron 9 місяців тому

    Lol, i still using mini apm in my bixler style plane 😂
    Still working good even after this 6 years 😂😂

  • @macieks.5959
    @macieks.5959 4 роки тому

    So I would like to ask few questions to fully understand this topic since together with starting FPV I would like to get flight stabilization/control & OSD systems too.
    In this video, firstly you presented SOFTware followed by a HARDware stuff. I am particularly interested in iNav (software) ran on one of Matek's board. What is ArduPilot then? Is it equivalent to iNav? I havent seen it mentioned on this video while I think you mentioned it as a flight control system on one of other videos of yours. Can you please where my understanding is wrong?
    There is a second question. From beginner RC pilot standpoint who just started to get interested in all of these electronics beyond motor and ESC - is there any important difference between iNav vs. ZOHD Kopilot? I think both have stabilization (iNav might have more modes such as angle and horizon i think), OSD, RTH, autolaunch, GPS module and would support FPV too. And I dont mean how hard would it be to install it (I bet with help of your vids it would be smooth in both cases).
    I appreciate your help - thanks!

    • @Painless360
      @Painless360  4 роки тому

      Check out the latest mini series that covers the basics of control, power and FPV in 3 videos.. They may help..

    • @macieks.5959
      @macieks.5959 4 роки тому

      @@Painless360 thanks, will try that.

  • @Purusotaman
    @Purusotaman 5 років тому

    Great Summary...

  • @emilgabl9069
    @emilgabl9069 4 роки тому

    I was really counting on you to help me since u have taken the time to produce these videos and I know you have a t16 and a Orbit...I just need to know inputs. I can’t find it out of your many videos...thanx

    • @Painless360
      @Painless360  4 роки тому

      Please see this video - ua-cam.com/video/P4soR6QgOk0/v-deo.html - that should help you find those videos of mine and help you find the answers you need quickly. I cover my setup in my Orbit video and there is a video in the T16 series on model setup tips. Not sure why you're only commenting on this videos as its content won't help you find the answer.. Best of luck!

  • @saraheart8527
    @saraheart8527 3 роки тому

    I have settled on PixHawk hardware and Mission controller software. How do I avoid copy-cat PixHawk controllers? I will be using a 2M powered glider, and doing photo missions. (5 ch with Flaps).
    I will be using GPS with a laptop for monitoring flight, and OSD/ and Run Sift Cam 2, Flying with a Radio Link 10II 12 channel radio.
    I am a very experienced fixed wing pilot, with only the flight controllers being new to me. Thank You.

    • @Painless360
      @Painless360  3 роки тому

      The reason that the PixHawk Cube exists is to provide pilots with a 'quality' flight controller as so many of the PixHawk clones were terrible. HolyBro also do some nice kit with the Durandal too..

  • @flighttherapybullisticfpv133
    @flighttherapybullisticfpv133 5 років тому +5

    "Pretty much of a muchness" haha

  • @michelcote
    @michelcote 2 роки тому

    What kind of osd did you run on INAV controller demo in this video ? I really like the look of it and I wish I could duplicate it.
    Thanks

    • @Painless360
      @Painless360  2 роки тому

      At which point in the video?

    • @michelcote
      @michelcote 2 роки тому

      @@Painless360 9:30 minutes after looking twice, I realise that it look like the Brain fpv osd that is shown while you speak of INAV. Thanks for the follow-up.

    • @Painless360
      @Painless360  2 роки тому

      Yep. That's the vectored osd from the BrainFPV FC
      Lovely stuff...

  • @user-xz9st8hm1n
    @user-xz9st8hm1n 4 роки тому

    GREAT VIDEO VERY HELPFUL

  • @arnerrvik7586
    @arnerrvik7586 5 років тому

    Very informative.
    Thanks!

  • @amirullaahad955
    @amirullaahad955 4 роки тому +1

    i think im gonna go with tht Furious fpv since there's no need to solder ths n tht.pnp so much easier

  • @heggy_fpv
    @heggy_fpv 5 років тому +1

    from your experience, do all of these require the same level of pid tuning for flying wings? i.e. how long does it take to fine tune for daily flights, wind/no wind profiles

    • @Painless360
      @Painless360  5 років тому +1

      All are pretty fast as they have autotune modes..

  • @brianevans4
    @brianevans4 4 роки тому

    Is there a difference in flight performance between the different boards? Will INAV fly differently (flight feel) to Ardupilot? Is one of them easier to fly? Or is there no difference at all? Thanks!

    • @Painless360
      @Painless360  4 роки тому

      Yes, Arduplane is very smooth from the start.. See my builds and video about the differences. Best of luck!

  • @Katana50cc
    @Katana50cc 5 років тому

    Great vid, thanks! : )
    Do you know if there is any flight controller for airplanes that supports 3 to 4 motor outputs, please?
    i would still need 2 servo outputs for ailerons.

    • @Painless360
      @Painless360  5 років тому +1

      You can have a few motors on things like the Pixhawk for stuff like VTOL setups..

    • @Katana50cc
      @Katana50cc 5 років тому

      @@Painless360 Appreciate your info : )

  • @timbosparks
    @timbosparks 4 роки тому

    I'm about to start a build on a ZOHD Dart XL, I have a MyFlyDream available to me, but wonder if this is old technology now and would I be better off using a Matek F405 / F765 for Inav?

    • @Painless360
      @Painless360  4 роки тому

      I've not flown that flight controller here so tricky for me to comment. From the specs it looks impressive. Best of luck with whatever you choose.. Happy flying!

  • @ryandconan
    @ryandconan 4 роки тому

    at 09:35 how can you use that osd display? Ive been using inav long time ago but dont have any font or display like that. im stuck in version 1.9. because the version above that experienced so many bug like horizon drift, etc... is that display comes from a new version?

    • @Painless360
      @Painless360  4 роки тому +1

      I guess you've not watched from the beginning of the series. Check out the intro to this series and the recent iNav builds for how I do everything.. Happy flying!

    • @ryandconan
      @ryandconan 4 роки тому

      @@Painless360 oh god bless you sir,
      and thanks to corona, now Im work from home while running marathon on watching all of your series in midnight.
      your video is so interesting, I cant even stop it.
      cheers!

  • @MGL83
    @MGL83 4 роки тому

    Is this still roughly up to date in spring 2020, or was there some major change in tech since?

    • @Painless360
      @Painless360  4 роки тому

      Yep. Update video on my flight controller choices expected in the next month.. Stay tuned

  • @emilgabl9069
    @emilgabl9069 4 роки тому

    I see that you now have a Zohd Orbit and an T16 Jumper...can you please tell me how you setup the Orbit so inputs/surfaces are being moved by right control sticks.

    • @Painless360
      @Painless360  4 роки тому

      See my T16 series.. best of luck!

  • @car6on14
    @car6on14 2 роки тому

    any advice on DJI naza? I am building a wing and already have it from an old 450 quad build. Yay or nay?

    • @Painless360
      @Painless360  2 роки тому

      Sorry, I've never tried it. Best of luck

  • @jonscot8393
    @jonscot8393 3 роки тому

    HI Painless Is there any updates to this video ? as time has flown by. cheers (Really needing one with stabilizer in them)

    • @Painless360
      @Painless360  3 роки тому

      Not really, a lot of the flight controller have changed a little recently due to chip shortages but you'll see the same vendors stuff used time and time again on the channel because they work; HGLRC, CLRacing, HolyBro, Matek, Pixhawk Cube, Durandal etc..

  • @martincloutier1399
    @martincloutier1399 4 роки тому

    Do you think the INav boards will be one day compatible with DJI Air Unit OSD like Betaflight 4.1+ is ?

    • @Painless360
      @Painless360  4 роки тому +1

      They already are. See my videos about it.

  • @yhsif02
    @yhsif02 5 років тому

    Yep,sorry i meant the stabiliser,and yes your right ive just tried it in my wing and it does,nt work,as you say its tuned for that model,pity it would have saved money.thank you.

    • @Painless360
      @Painless360  5 років тому

      No problem, please use the 'reply' function in the comments as I can loose track of the previous messages.. happy flying!

  • @이시훈-k4n
    @이시훈-k4n 5 років тому +1

    Can you do ardupilot video usingF405 wing? It is the most used nowadays. Thanks!

    • @Painless360
      @Painless360  5 років тому

      Check out the latest Ardupilot series, the process is the same for supported 3rd party boards.. Best of luck!

  • @interman7715
    @interman7715 5 років тому

    All this gear is great if you are good on computers, but I just run Arkbird ,didn't need a computer to set it up ,what is the main differences to these systems ,thanks?

    • @Painless360
      @Painless360  5 років тому

      If you don't want to use a PC then check out the ZOHD Kopilot..

  • @shawnzfpv
    @shawnzfpv 5 років тому

    I see your Radix horizon ladder doesn't work in 2.1 either :)

  • @yhsif02
    @yhsif02 5 років тому

    I have smashed my nano talon,and wondered if you think i could put the flight controller into my ar wing,i know its been flying a v-tail but do you think it will work ,thank you.

    • @Painless360
      @Painless360  5 років тому

      What flight controller are you referring to? If you mean the inbuilt stabiliser then they are setup for that specific model with a certain tune..

  • @fabiofabius7065
    @fabiofabius7065 5 років тому

    useful video as usual thanks but on your qx7 i see grafics nice of gps data do not remind if there is a video on how to do . is it a script or what.. thanks

    • @Painless360
      @Painless360  5 років тому +1

      Yes there is. Check out the telemetry options in the Pixhawk 2.1/Cube series and there is another video in the current Arduplane series.. LUA scripts can do pretty much anything and most are free.. :D

  • @SniperSteve1
    @SniperSteve1 5 років тому

    Do you have an opinion on the MyFlyDream autopilot?

    • @Painless360
      @Painless360  5 років тому

      I've never tried one.. I'll have to have a look.. Happy flying!

  • @chrisdaws5382
    @chrisdaws5382 4 роки тому

    I just watched this and it completely confused me.
    I would like something that will offer 6 axis support, GPS input for RTH, and some telemetry. I don't use FPV so no OSD, I don't solder so must be plug and play, I don't want a complex computer based set up. Is there something that will do what I want? and no, the Kopilot won't.

    • @Painless360
      @Painless360  4 роки тому +1

      Sadly the majority of flight controllers are not plug and play. The closest was the FuriousFPV F35 flight controller and GPS kit that you'd install iNav onto. Failing that a Pixhawk might be an option. See my builds. Best of luck...

  • @andrewwilson8317
    @andrewwilson8317 5 років тому

    Have you contact details? Have an interesting project in development and would welcome your thoughts on it. Its an aviation project that uses a pixhawk in a configuration that does not appear to have been done very much. Thanks.

  • @debashishdas4865
    @debashishdas4865 4 роки тому

    I'm making an rc plane, among cc3d ,apm2.8 and pixhawk2.4.8 which should I use, or can you please recommend me some other FC

  • @GRPVideoProductions
    @GRPVideoProductions 4 роки тому

    whats ur view on the ZOHD kopilot lite?

    • @Painless360
      @Painless360  4 роки тому +1

      See my series on it.... Happy flying

  • @Lagggerengineering
    @Lagggerengineering 5 років тому

    I just looked at the price of the Vector and I am like HOOOOLY JIGAHERZ that's expensive.
    Thanks, I will stick to LibrePilot and Ardupilot hardware...

    • @Painless360
      @Painless360  5 років тому

      Check out the latest Ardupilot series ;)

  • @aaronspiller5150
    @aaronspiller5150 5 років тому

    is it possible to run inav without gps? for flight modes and osd.

    • @MarcAntoine01
      @MarcAntoine01 5 років тому +1

      Yes, don't setup RTH if you don't have GPS or you won't be able to arm the craft

  • @urumaguam
    @urumaguam 5 років тому

    Please test the mini pix from bangood, thanks!

    • @sasasasa-lx6cl
      @sasasasa-lx6cl 5 років тому +1

      It will work but on bigger wings. Also it has lots of configuration options as all PixHawk clones and AFAIR needs ground station from Radiolink (at least that was situation last year). I was not quite happy with it, spend more time setting it up than actually flying.

  • @rsilvers129
    @rsilvers129 4 роки тому

    When an F4 controller is $30, why even bother with F3?

  • @zvonimirtrgovcic5499
    @zvonimirtrgovcic5499 5 років тому

    Yes adrupilot on omnibus f4
    😀😀😀👍
    it would be great to I have an old delta wing with an apm plate fc I could only change to new fc on the omnibus and again it would fly super with a new controller😀

    • @Painless360
      @Painless360  5 років тому

      You can preview the videos currently in production by checking out the latest Playlist on the channel if you want to see my do this before anyone else! :D

    • @zvonimirtrgovcic5499
      @zvonimirtrgovcic5499 5 років тому

      👍

  • @zvonimirtrgovcic5499
    @zvonimirtrgovcic5499 5 років тому

    Can omnibus f4 connect on the old mavlink

  • @PauloHenrique-hg7iw
    @PauloHenrique-hg7iw 5 років тому

    Pixhawk 1.6 setup

    • @Painless360
      @Painless360  5 років тому

      Pardon? I don't understand the question..

    • @PauloHenrique-hg7iw
      @PauloHenrique-hg7iw 5 років тому

      @@Painless360
      how to do the software configuration part for
      ZOHD Dart Sweepforward

    • @Painless360
      @Painless360  5 років тому +1

      Same as I'm about to do in that Ardupilot series I mentioned, stay tuned!

    • @PauloHenrique-hg7iw
      @PauloHenrique-hg7iw 5 років тому

      @@Painless360
      ok I'm following the videos.

  • @bg563195
    @bg563195 5 років тому

    Dame it.....

  • @emilgabl9069
    @emilgabl9069 4 роки тому

    Please help me fellow hobbyist?!?

    • @Painless360
      @Painless360  4 роки тому

      Please comment on a video that's relevant to your issue. I've already answered you twice and pointed you towards helpful content on this channel. If you're unable or unwilling to follow those links then I can't see how I can help.. Happy flying!

  • @cummibear69
    @cummibear69 5 років тому

    -1st- lel
    Edit: lel