Sound Deadening my Doors (again!) | How and Why
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- Опубліковано 7 бер 2024
- Install Sound Deadening doors of my 2011 Scion xB (again) for more mid bass.
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Adding sound deadening to the doors to help turn the doors into an enclosure, which will help increase the mid-bass from the door speakers.
We're using Noico 80 mil sound deadening, and Noico 150 mil close cell foam insulation.
The sound deadening will help prevent vibrations, and the foam will help to absorb road noise.
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Bruv edited it like a show on spike tv
Thank you…I think? Guess it depends on what show lol. Just trying to make something people will watch
Am all the way from the Caribbean and has a 2013 scion xb and starting a custom audio for competition,... love your work
Oh nice! Is there a decent sized community out there (for audio OR for custom Scions)?
And daaamn I’m getting views all the way out there? That’s really cool! Thanks for checking it out.
Do you have pics/videos of your build?
Great work! I can't wait to hear it!❤
Thank you! Install and distance test in the next one!
@@DaBadNewz Please and thank you! 🎯
Just started watching your stuff and thanks for all the educational information really helps me with planning on my car. Greetings from Scotland have a nice weekend dude :)
Wow I don’t think anyone has called my content “educational”! (Except for maybe as a lesson in what not to do lol).
But very happy to help! And all the way in Scotland?! Wow that’s just unbelievable, never thought my videos would reach across the globe like that.
Thank you so much for your comment! Stuff like that is super motivating, and I truly appreciate it.
@@DaBadNewz For you to explain in depth about how sound dense works has helped me understand better for helping my friend that has a problem with his subwoofer making his car sound a like spray can. Defo loving the content dude and will sticking around for more :)
@@S.A.Autovalets yea they tend to do that! Definitely convince him to add some deadening (even if only patches in the worst areas)…he’ll thank you later.
And thanks again! I’ve recently switched to weekly uploads, so hopefully you enjoy!
Deserve more views.
I appreciate that! Still trying to figure out how to navigate the algorithm.
Thanks for commenting though, that helps!
Really solid editing skills man, cool video.
Thanks man! I'm still working on it but I really appreciate that!
Dope video bro. Subscribed!
Been looking at how to take my trucks audio up a notch. Would be interested to see how exactly you make the speaker mounts and really how you know what shape will work best? Why wouldnt you just want a fully sealed enclosure behind the door speaker itself?
You’re getting ahead of me! The ideal situation is as you said, an actual enclosure for the speakers, mounted in/on the doors. I’m kinda baby stepping my way towards that. Trying to maximize my results each step of the way (partially just for my own understanding).
As far as the mounts, I actually have a video featuring those getting made. I literally just traced the stock speakers (which were speaker/mount in one), and cut out my shape with a jigsaw. Nothing fancy over here!
And thanks for the sub! Definitely appreciate that!
I used that noico shit on my scion too man. I'm pretty happy with it but I could definitely use more deadening. My level 6 15s are tearing shit up 😂
Yea man it’s a slippery slope, I’m like 6 boxes in so far! Scions need it bad tho, even without subs
Great video..
Thank you!
Man I thought I was OCD with my sound deadening, but you just made me wanna rip my door cards off again and stick even more in there lol.
One thing to remember though is the butyl does add weight to the car, doesnt really matter much when you just have a little bit, but if you do the whole car would be like having an extra passenger in your car 100% of the time, which will have a slight impact on fuel efficiency long term.
Probably not something that matters much in NA though, fuel is twice as much here in the UK :D
Oh I don’t have shit, you should see the truck in the Bass Wars video I did, dude covered absolutely everything!
And yea I’ve definitely already added more than my body weight in deadening, and the box/sub/combo is another me. (Definitely not the most economical modifications)
You got a new subscriber
I appreciate that!!
If you do the whole cab of a vehicle it also has a GREAT SOUND FOR SQL & SPL. Great choice for speakers or the M60SQL heck any Deaf Bonce product is #1
Definitely agree! Deadening helps out a ridiculous amount for what it is. Probably have 200+ lbs on mine now!
And yea so far, DB for the win…love these things so far!
Good stuff bro i have 60 sq ft in my single cab S10 and planning on some steel.
My four 15 4th order (Dc audio) is killing my truck...
Oh shit yea I bet! Aint enough sound deadening in the world to fight that kinda pressure…that steel will help tho!
I got the d4s 65v2s which are the Arnold's. I currently have 3 in each door but I got 6 more on the way. Gonna have 6 on each door on a jp322.
Damn that’s gonna be loud af!! People gonna hear those doors before they hear those DCs lol
@DaBadNewz lol ya I like it loud
You mess with vibraflex or sundown rigid sound deadener yet just wondering if it could go over reg butyl sound deadening? I hate to tear off what’s there to apply the vibraflex kind?
I haven't actually yet! But at the last bass meet I went to I got a chance to really check out a fresh job one of the guys had done on his roof, and now I definitely wanna try it out...seems solid af!
As far as going over the butyl, idk about that one. I can imagine that working...or not lol
Dude I was talking to DID say that just doubling up (or more) on the butyl deadener would be a similar result tho, so that might be something to think about too.
Good luck on your build man! If you DO go rigid over butyl, let me know how that works out!
Might consider making panels that will block off the huge hole(s) where there appears to be only a clear plastic membrane there. Totally seal up the door. Very good work. Try also to do a BEFORE & AFTER video clip to realize the benefits of your labor and expense. Good Clip. BDBD/2024
Oh yea! The blank off plates are definitely on the agenda!
And yea this video slacked big time on the before and after. I meant to include some clips from some other videos I made about sound deadening (just for example), but I straight up forgot lol.
I WILL be posting a video later today with the final results (new speakers installed), and I'm literally bout to go film some more AFTER shots right now.
Good lookin on the constructive feedback man, I appreciate you helping me do what I do
How did you run your tweeters.Im running a separate component set 6.5s with the tweeters.But when I unhook the factory tweeter it will not play.So how did you run your tweets
That happened to me too! I wanted to hear the door speakers without the tweeters and you can't because from the factory the audio for the 6.5s actually runs through the tweeters. For now I'm still running the factory tweets in the factory location, but my 6.5s are running off the amp with some wires I ran. (that install video comes out tomorrow)
When I get my tweets I'm gonna run my own wires from the amp to wherever they get mounted.
To hook components up using the factory wires, I THINK you would be able to get away with grabbing your signal from the factory tweeter wires instead of the factory 6.5 wires, but I haven't actually tried that myself.
What would an audio shop charge for this job? I think my speakers are fine but need more bass.
I'm not sure, but I would imagine it would be kinda pricey since it's a pretty labor intensive process. You would probably be looking at a couple hundred for the doors.
Excellent work! 👊🏾 But I ain't got time for that! 😅
You need to make time for it!! It’s definitely a lot of work, but it makes a HUGE difference! Even just hitting it lightly will make help a lot
@@DaBadNewz I have a box of some thick heavy ass 80mil deadening mat. 25lbs worth of material. I looked at it and was like 🤬 maybe I'll take a crack at it come spring break but that time is primarily to replace my head gasket, install the remote start, and upgrade my side mirror and fog lights. So I don't know 🤷🏾♂️
@chrisbellevue well if you have it taken apart at any time and have access to the areas that need it, I highly HIGHLY recommend it. Less vibrations sound better at any volume, but for bass it helps tremendously.
Check out my video where we sound deadened the roof of my car, or the one where we did my homie’s Mazda3 roof, results are really clear in those ones
Yo you should try out or make a video on the Amazon brand sound deadening
I would definitely do that! Not a bad idea at all. I found Noico and Siless there, so I’ve got to imagine they’re pretty comparable, but who knows?
Thanks for the idea!
@@DaBadNewz Hell yeah I randomly found a video about someone talking about it and saying a different sound deadening brand did testing against a bunch of different brands and apparently the Amazon one is better than Second Skin and some other brands as well
That would definitely be an interesting comparison!
So, aboutnto insulate ans sound deadening my door and just upgraded speaker and did and amp,, looking g to do about the same, sound deadening, my question is the foam, what did yiu use as far as the foam?
Do you mean like which one did I use? It was Noico 150mil, but that's pretty hard to find now, so I've been using Siless on my homie Victor's Mazda 3 (I have video of that process too).
Here's a link to a list of sound deadening stuff I recommend on Amazon: amzn.to/4367arM
@DaBadNewz yes, that is what I meant, didn't realize how bad my question and typing it was! I just saw you added the extra foam part over the siless and was wondering if it was the same just with the foil part taken off! I couldn't hear what all you said in the video! Thank you and you did a badass job man!
The Siless is one the brands I have been looking at getting and doing the same as you did! Again thank you for the input!
@@michaelherring6693 oh I gotcha, and it’s all good man, we all type too fast sometimes. But yea the foam is just another product. Good luck on your project !
@@michaelherring6693 no problem! They’re a great option at the price range
Them deaf bonce scream! Bro its almost impossible to get much midbass outta 6.5. Ive ran the Arnolds before and now some Stevens Audio MB6's and they play low af. But even with deadening outter and inner skin theres just so much youll get outta 6.5 speakers. Imma switch to 8s at some point. None of those pro audio mids will play very low to begin with. Love the bass car bro. Shits dope af
Oh don’t worry, I already got something to make up for the limitations of 6.5s, just haven’t installed yet. We gonna have all the mid bass!
But I definitely agree with you. For me it’s all about experimentation and trying to make the most of what you got…(then upgrading like a mf!)
And thanks man! Still got a long way to go on it, but I’m pretty happy with the progress
Also be warned to take care when doing this with the foil backed deadening material it's conductive and is part of the reason my brand new Deafbonce AAK 6k is blown a screw shorted out my LOC and took the amp with it really sad day I didn't realize what happened until after I tried hooking my kicker CXA 1800.1 up and it blew immediately so yeah two amps went up in smoke this morning because of the conductive foil backed silass max 120 mil I know it is probably more operational error than anything (ME) but still please be careful I just blew 2k worth of amps and had to spend another 600$ this morning on a cab45 V2 really expensive morning for me
Damn that’s shitty! It makes sense that it would happen, but definitely not something you would think about. That’s a good point to include in the next video on the subject.
Sorry for your amps, but thanks for sharing your experience so we all might learn better!
@@DaBadNewz that's why I wanted to say it bro just so nobody else has to go through what I'm going through now I'm sick over my amps 🤢 but I got the old cab 45 version 2 with the 2-year no questions asked warranty I'll be bumping one way or another bro
I know how that goes! I've sent my amp out for repair twice cuz I wasn't gonna not have bass...that's just trippin!
@@DaBadNewz not happening bro got a brand new CAB45-V2 out for delivery as we speak LoL I'm going to get bumping one way or another
Let me help you also het so decoupler tape for your wires and loose pins to reduce rattling noises and also get get sound skins spraker snake foam so sound dont escape betreewn your door cover and your speakers you put it on the eage of the speaker and it will make your speakers sound better
I used fabric tape and de-foiled sound deadening for the wires and fasteners, basically the same idea.
And yea something on the front to direct the sound waves a little better would help a lot
Sound deadening is SiCK!
I know by now you put 30_sum boxes!
@@DaBadNewz Shii, that's right
Mines a 2010 xb
Nice! got some music in it?
Ya ive dun all my doors like u , got 1ot 3 hook up under the hood , still need to replace my alternator ive had sitting in the box for going on 4yrs 🥴 i guess i shld of built my own box but got a custom 1 dun for 625 raped in vinal for 2 12s i went with the audiopipes triple stackers , have DS18 pro 61/2 in 4 doors and swapped out my tweets with some BZRK audio RS T150 , my question i had , i notist i dont see anyone using crossovers a guy at work told me to get one ?
he used to build comp cars
Next question ur using that D4S amp for ur front stage correct , so it still sounds good even not being a AB amp or ?
gracias carnall 🤜🤛
A lot of people don’t use crossovers because they’re doing it manually themselves.
A crossover is good if you have more than one type of speaker hooked up to the same output (like a speaker and a tweeter), so that they each get only the signal they play well with.
People who don’t use crossovers are doing the same thing, but with the settings on the amp. They keep each output only to a certain type of speaker, and set the filters on the amp manually so that only the right frequencies go through.
I have a video coming up where I explain all that stuff in detail.
As far as the Class D on mids and highs, I love it! I haven’t noticed any less performance or anything like that. I think that line of thinking is kinda old school, and maybe not as much of an issue nowadays with modern technology. (But that’s just my guess).
I’ll let you know if anything changes!! But for now, for some everyday bumpin, it’s workin just fine for me!
Well thats what i asked him , i even have lowpass and highpass and a sub controler on my head unit
@frankiebaugher3778 yea it really all comes down to the setup. DSP or no DSP, how many channels of amplification, individual preferences, speakers and their specs…
At the end of the day, everybody is doing basically the same thing, but getting there in different ways.
What your homie is describing is basically just a separate unit that does the job of setting the filters on the amp/head unit. The point where the filters are set is even called “crossover points.”
But like I said, he does have a point that they can be helpful, because then you can have speakers and tweeters running off the same channel…but depending on what speakers and tweeters you run and how much power they need, that might not be the best way.
I’m running mine separately so that I can control the power going to the tweeters completely separate from the mids and sub
Sound absorption. Bare metal absorbs the sound frequencies and in effect music loss happens. Sound deadening deflection is what you need. You want sound to travel inside the vehicle instead of being absorbed into the body. Skirt!!
that's why we go so hard with the deadening!
nice build. I love it. my biggest concern is how do I make sure my door panel will clip back properly. can you show that process ???????
This one’s a little older so forgive the quality, but it goes into a little bit more detail on the clips specifically:
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And it depends on how much deadening you use. If you went full crazy, 100% deadened, then you have to cut holes in the deadening for the clips to go into and leave enough space for the clip to go all the way.
Adding deadening only makes things puffed out a bit, so you usually can get away with just using a lil more pressure (carefully of course, so you don’t break anything!)
But if you only deaden 25-50% of the panel, there usually isn’t much issue getting things back together either way.
Hope that helps!
And thanks for the video idea! I DO plan on diving into deadening a lil more, and that’s a good part to cover.