Ah another stunning Joy Division song, to quote Mark Twain there are two types of people in the world, those who understand and like Joy Division and those who are destined to be tossed into the fiery pits of Dante's inferno, clever man that Mark Twain.
If I may suggest another Manchester band that you should check out - please listen to The Chameleons. They've released a lot of amazing songs, but I'd recommend 'View from a Hill' or 'Second Skin'. Utterly gorgeous, atmospheric rock.
Ian Curtis was a big fan of William Burroughs. Haven't read him, but knowing other transgressive literature I can assume, that despite of the symbolism this kind of art is more about expressing certain feelings, like experience of touring in here. He was looking for his dream there, and the irony is that he gave his dream to those people around him, feeling all alone now.
Love the song. Love JD. No surprises here. Also, to echo someone else's comment, I noticed the static-y sound, JP. Don't know what that's about, but hopefully you can figure it out.
If you look at the Wikipedia article for the Twilight Zone episode Shadow Play, I think the plot might have some bearing on 'in the shadowplay acting out your own death'
Joy Division was the name of the room where nazi officers would abuse women in concentration camps. The band took their name from the 1953 book The House Of Dolls by Ka-tzetnik 135633. A quote from that novella is in their 1977 song No Love Lost. I have a strong feeling that Shadowplay is based on the same ideas. The atrocities of mankind and the powerlessness of the individual that has to experience them. On Unknown Pleasures Ian Cutis is the witness of those atrocities, a guide that takes the listener by the hand to explore emotions of fear, abomination and alienation. Listen to Wilderness. I like the probably unintended pun in Joy Divisions first bandname Warsaw: I "saw" (witnessed) the "war". On another level Shadowplay could be about God. Man is longing and waiting for God in the depths of despair only to find Him murdered once again (like He was on the cross) by the atrocities of mankind throughout history.
You might have a bad contact on the right (or left, if I'm back to front) output channel of whatever you're getting the music from. I thought it might be my headphones going, but it goes away when the song ends. It's also a bit quiet? Seems to be a bit lower than your voice level. Just thought you'd like to know if glitches are appearing with this anywhere. I think my "analysis" of music is really just a mood analysis, and today I was in a Joy Division mood (and even a bit averse to the idea of Joy Division oven gloves being a joke). OK, and the scratches and muting continues when it's just you speaking, so you might have a problem with more than just your music source.
Had a kitten get behind my 1978 Realistic speakers shortly before playing this. I spent nearly 1/2 hour trying to find the short. So glad to see someone else validates the contact prob. on this recording. Whew.
Monochord singing on a rudimentary instrumental layer. That doesn't stop "Shadowplay" from being one of Unknown Pleasures' most accessible tracks, but it's downright off-putting compared to The Cure, Magazine, The Stranglers, Simple Minds, XTC or Talking Heads from the same period !
The Stranglers and Simple Minds are nothing like Joy Division, Johnny and the Self Abusers may have had more in common but it seems like in your mind all 70's/80's bands must sound similar, kinda smells a bit bull sorry
@@mickr1448 Any connection between Joy Division and Simple Minds? Not sure because Jim Kerr said he was greatly influenced by Unknown Pleasures when recording their second album Real to Real Cacophony. Of course musically it's not the same thing because this Simple Minds album is much more experimental in places, while Joy Division's is more Spartan in form, however there are certain aesthetic similarities at times, in particular the use of reverb. As for Johnny and the Self Abusers (which is an early version of Simple Minds as you know) musically it's closer to punk rock than post-punk.
I love JD but this is one of my least favorite tracks of theirs. Starts out very promisingly, with just the bass and shimmering ride cymbal, very atmospheric. But from that point on, they just don't give me enough musically. Guitar, bass, and vocal lines just too limited and repetitive.
Get out the black eyeliner, time for some mope rock. Doubt anyone outside of northern England would have been much interested in them were it not for the iconic album cover and the great production by the late Martin Hannett.
@@mickr1448 Hi Mick, I'm talking about the fan base. I bought their albums a couple years after Curtis put himself out of his misery because I liked early New Order, but really, people still want to listen to them? World is disturbing enough as it is. Cheers
It messes with your brain and your heart as well. A perfect Joy Division song again. Thanks for listening and reacting.
Ah another stunning Joy Division song, to quote Mark Twain there are two types of people in the world, those who understand and like Joy Division and those who are destined to be tossed into the fiery pits of Dante's inferno, clever man that Mark Twain.
This is the best comment I have seen on UA-cam
I can never get enough of this track.
One of my all time favorites
If I may suggest another Manchester band that you should check out - please listen to The Chameleons. They've released a lot of amazing songs, but I'd recommend 'View from a Hill' or 'Second Skin'. Utterly gorgeous, atmospheric rock.
“Swamp Thing” and “Time”
Perfume Garden also
Watch the two films, mate. Control and 24 Hour Party People.
Why? What are these?
Now there’s an album for the ages. I Remember Nothing is one of the most haunting tracks ever recorded.
My favorite track on the album. If you have a covers playlist add the Killers version.
Mine too.
Agree - The Killers do a nice version of this.
When I was in az and I moved in to a house they rent to someone one day I heard the ep and loved it the first group I saw x
Ian Curtis was a big fan of William Burroughs. Haven't read him, but knowing other transgressive literature I can assume, that despite of the symbolism this kind of art is more about expressing certain feelings, like experience of touring in here. He was looking for his dream there, and the irony is that he gave his dream to those people around him, feeling all alone now.
Think it's unlikely there's a mistake on the snare, as Martin Hannett made Steven Morris record the drum parts separately I believe.
Great song. Unfortunately there seems to be an issue with the sound in the right speaker that is very distracting, so I had trouble watching. :(
Love the song. Love JD. No surprises here.
Also, to echo someone else's comment, I noticed the static-y sound, JP. Don't know what that's about, but hopefully you can figure it out.
If you look at the Wikipedia article for the Twilight Zone episode Shadow Play, I think the plot might have some bearing on 'in the shadowplay acting out your own death'
Good time to listen to JD "Sound of Music"
Joy Division was the name of the room where nazi officers would abuse women in concentration camps. The band took their name from the 1953 book The House Of Dolls by Ka-tzetnik 135633. A quote from that novella is in their 1977 song No Love Lost. I have a strong feeling that Shadowplay is based on the same ideas. The atrocities of mankind and the powerlessness of the individual that has to experience them. On Unknown Pleasures Ian Cutis is the witness of those atrocities, a guide that takes the listener by the hand to explore emotions of fear, abomination and alienation. Listen to Wilderness. I like the probably unintended pun in Joy Divisions first bandname Warsaw: I "saw" (witnessed) the "war". On another level Shadowplay could be about God. Man is longing and waiting for God in the depths of despair only to find Him murdered once again (like He was on the cross) by the atrocities of mankind throughout history.
Fkn myth. Prove it. H was a great man. Hey, TIME said so. Man of the Year. Two. Years. In. A. Row.
Oh yeah war...saw.. never saw it like that.
You might have a bad contact on the right (or left, if I'm back to front) output channel of whatever you're getting the music from. I thought it might be my headphones going, but it goes away when the song ends. It's also a bit quiet? Seems to be a bit lower than your voice level. Just thought you'd like to know if glitches are appearing with this anywhere.
I think my "analysis" of music is really just a mood analysis, and today I was in a Joy Division mood (and even a bit averse to the idea of Joy Division oven gloves being a joke).
OK, and the scratches and muting continues when it's just you speaking, so you might have a problem with more than just your music source.
Had a kitten get behind my 1978 Realistic speakers shortly before playing this. I spent nearly 1/2 hour trying to find the short. So glad to see someone else validates the contact prob. on this recording. Whew.
More miserable gits in the comments so far than there were in the band.
I think Brandon flowers done a cover of this a while ago ??
The best . Lots of early echo and the bunny men in there. But JD was 1st
Closer I think was a better album, a little on the heavy side(lyric wise). Heart and soul, Twenty four hours, Decades, The eternal ...
Lot of crackle on this.
One of my favourite songs ever and Joy Divisions best in my opinion
Yus Mun!!
My first exposure to this was The Killers.
Amfkmazing
F1rsties!!!🎉🎉🎉
also the charlatans, stone roses, inspiral carpets, are worth a listen
brilliant track, only took 5 seconds before i went and made a sandwich
Monochord singing on a rudimentary instrumental layer. That doesn't stop "Shadowplay" from being one of Unknown Pleasures' most accessible tracks, but it's downright off-putting compared to The Cure, Magazine, The Stranglers, Simple Minds, XTC or Talking Heads from the same period !
Joy Division are like scabies, only you've got no hands to scratch.
@@pentagrammaton6793 Good analogy!🤣
@@a.k.1740 hahaha
The Stranglers and Simple Minds are nothing like Joy Division, Johnny and the Self Abusers may have had more in common but it seems like in your mind all 70's/80's bands must sound similar, kinda smells a bit bull sorry
@@mickr1448 Any connection between Joy Division and Simple Minds? Not sure because Jim Kerr said he was greatly influenced by Unknown Pleasures when recording their second album Real to Real Cacophony. Of course musically it's not the same thing because this Simple Minds album is much more experimental in places, while Joy Division's is more Spartan in form, however there are certain aesthetic similarities at times, in particular the use of reverb. As for Johnny and the Self Abusers (which is an early version of Simple Minds as you know) musically it's closer to punk rock than post-punk.
I love JD but this is one of my least favorite tracks of theirs. Starts out very promisingly, with just the bass and shimmering ride cymbal, very atmospheric. But from that point on, they just don't give me enough musically. Guitar, bass, and vocal lines just too limited and repetitive.
Get out the black eyeliner, time for some mope rock. Doubt anyone outside of northern England would have been much interested in them were it not for the iconic album cover and the great production by the late Martin Hannett.
I,m not sure Ian, Barney or Hookie wore black eyeliner, wrong band I think
@@mickr1448 Hi Mick, I'm talking about the fan base. I bought their albums a couple years after Curtis put himself out of his misery because I liked early New Order, but really, people still want to listen to them? World is disturbing enough as it is. Cheers