I love the way they both smile at eachother when they pause from kissing. I love the way that when sarah rings, craig looks at the phone, doesn't think twice about answering and just rests his head on JP's chest. Now that's love.
by far one of my favorite scenes between jp and craig. it explains everything and shows the depth of how much craig really does care and explains his inner turmoil. LOVE THEM!!
The little kisses and genuine smiles spoke volumes. Craig looked so completely happy and content lying in his arms! Just so adorable. I remember watching this scene over and over back in the day.
“How can I? She's involved!” - often I'm going about my life, doing nothing important, and then suddenly I'll remember John Paul saying that line. Not that it fits with whatever I'm doing or seeing, it just pops into my head at random moments.
@@lucyhowarth1193 Spike/JP was more of a casual relationship, so he was not impacted any where near, Sarah and Craig were in a proper long term relationship and it was one of her close friends as well, must been a total betrayal for her.
@@FH1234-u2oI think Spike truly liked John-Paul and could see a future with him so he was very hurt when John-Paul rather abruptly dumped him at of the blue and he hoped they would get back together his eye sparkled when John-Paul asked him to hang out but he was only doing that to make Craig Jealous he was gutted when he found out that John-Paul loved Craig that much he would rather share Craig with Sarah than have an exclusive relationship with him
Awwwwh! This episode is so damn good! In this episode I think that Craig is actually coming to terms with his love for John Paul because after they had sex, Craig didn't leave. He kept cuddling John Paul. Oh and one more thing...the giggles in between their kisses were so, so, so cute!
Ahhh they are just too much! The kiss and then the way JP said Craig,,,oohhh my god. One more replay of that, no really, I mean it. One more and that's it *replays a million time**
It's funny, as soon as John Paul comes along, Craig's dress sense tends to get alot better. I mean, compare this, to when Craig had long hair and was wearing that washing powder T shirt LOL
Though I have not watched many of the earlier episodes--and, frankly, the ones I watched did not interest me in the same way as this storyline did--I completely agree with what you write here. I just watched the whole storyline of John Paul and Craig again, and I became much more impressed with the character of Craig. Yes, he wants to have it all, but he is bemused by his very own feelings. It is, also, clear that he is falling deeper in love with John Paul as every day goes by.
THE LEGENDARY KISS. MOST ROMANTIC PASSIONATE ON SCREEN KISS. THIEY SHUD GET AN OSCAR FOR THIS FINE PORTRAYAL OF EMOTIONS. WONDERFUL ACTING BY BOTH GUY & JAMES. I M SPEECHLESS. THIS EVEN BLASTS THE BROKEBACK MOUNTAIN....SERIOUSLY LEGENDARY. HATS OFF.
@@ianmith3954 Yeah Craig is absolutely besotted with John-Paul if Craig were frightened of social stigma Sarah would of already been out of the picture by now
That must've been the first time he said I love you because JP is in heaven. I am impressed. They don't kiss in a hurried manner but have true intimacy.
Craig actually told John-Paul he loved him at the dance off he said to John-Paul remember this alright i love you i love you John-Paul and Craig were both giggling Craig said again i love you and then leaned in to kiss John-Paul but this is the first time that Craig has told John-Paul he loves him as in He inlove with him
I've watched the 'I love you' scene so many times that I know the script and I repeat the words at the same time with both of them. That is so pathetic, I really should stop watching this over and over again.
@@jlprizm Well they been bestfriends for a while Craig might know the McQueens schedule although the second time John-Paul and Craig slept together probably Mercedes sent Craig up believing Craig is just John-Paul bestfriend Mercedes and russ were arguing about his ex girlfriend Danny so didn't hear what they were up to
@@shwetap8531 Yeah Craig told John-Paul the night of the dance off remember this alright i love you i love you he laughed and then said i love you again Craig then kissed John-Paul not the other way around
WTF is Sarah wearing. She looks like something out of a superheroes comic. This is one of my favourite episodes. It's nice to see that even if Craig can't admit what he wante JP knows his true feelings anyway. Gorgeous kiss and ADORE the scene at the end where Craig ignores his phone knowing it's Sarah, and rests his head contented on JPs chest.
I absolutely loved this storyline but i wished they had spoken about Craig being bisexual. Would have eased the confusion from John Paul's perspective. And it can feel different with men and women.
Yeah once John-Paul and Craig started sleeping together they both seemed to have a one tracked mind funnily enough after Craig had come back from holiday John-Paul started to initiate most of their kisses when they were in Craig room together John-Paul goes to kiss Craig moves away and says not here John-Paul doesnt listen to Craig and says so stop me and begins kissing Craig neck to get him in the mood he continues to assault Craig neck with kisses until Craig gives and they end up in bed together once again Jack actually walks in on them whilst they are lying in bed together John-Paul hides under the covers and jack thinks that it is Sarah it would of been quite funny if Sarah would of walked into the dog at that moment jack would of been very shocked i don't think he would of given the game away but he definetly would of questioned Craig about it later on i don't reckon he would of guessed that Craig was sleeping with his bestmate though
Craig's character has a lot more depth than just being a 'jerk' The character of Craig had already been on the show 4 years prior to JP's arrival, so there was alot of character development, from a geeky, arrogant Dean, to a sexually confused man. Alot of people liked him for that development, and especially due to the way he matures in his return in 2008. It does help considering Guy is not lacking in the looks department, but Craig is a complex character, which alot of people like him for :)
Am I the only one concerned about Spike? I really like him. I feel bad that John Paul is cheating on him, even though JP and Craig have a lot of chemistry. Spike is such a nice guy.
Spike didn't really deserve it, but at the same time he's presented as an older Out guy who's been around the block and wasn't looking for anything serious when he hooked up with JP so it's not a huge tragic drama that he got shut out in the end. I feel like Spike's character is optimistic and carefree so he probably didn't stay down about it for long.
@@ssian5678 I think spike did actually wanted things to become serious with John-Paul he tried to act like his feelings were quite casually but his actions betrayed his true feelings he said to John-Paul so you think we've got a future he took John-Paul out for a special meal and said happy anniversary he tried to be a loyal and loving boyfriend he was gutted when he got dumped out of the blue spike remained hopeful that John-Paul would get back with him he was heart broken when he realised that John-Paul had left him for Craig and that John-Paul loved Craig that much he would rather share Craig with Sarah than have an exclusive relationship with him he realised he just compete with Craig for John-Paul heart i think John Paul took one look at Craig with the dorky yellow jacket and fell instantly inlove with him he wanted to protect Craig from sonny he became bestfriends with Craig in order to get close to Craig
I believe that Craig was in love with Sarah in the beginning, while around this point he just loved her (he just didnt want to see that) and was IN love with John Paul.
personally i don't think their relationship was ever the same after she kissed rhys tbh, he was always jealous too, I think even if Craig not fell for JP their relationship wouldn't of lasted. I also think she was tempted by that model guy as well? I think she loved Craig but I think she might of bored of him herself or dumped him when she got into modelling or someone else come along.
I love this clip, craig loves JP, alot more than Sarah. There is know way, a straight man would ever want or love a gay man and still call himself straight. He's with Sarah, only because she every man dream. And Craig has always wanted the perfect girlfriend. but, had trouble keeping them or making them happy. With JP, there's know reason to try so hard. he's him self. Not paranoid. Which is a huge part of who he is.
@SteffyPlum I think Craig went a bit mental as you said ever since JP declared his love for him, cos Craig's character in the past was kind of a dork who was used and abandoned for the 2 girls he dated and suddenly he has the hottest girl on school as his girlfriend and the collest guy saying he's in love with him. It fucked up with his head I think, but I never doubted he loved JP more. He just didn't know how to handle the situation.
Yes, exactly. People forget that Craig was treated as a bit of a loser at school and in the village when he was younger (even getting bullied by classmates) and didn't have any close friends. It's a shock to him that when he gets to highschool he suddenly has a popular cool best mate and a gorgeous equally well-liked girlfriend, and he is loathe to let go of either of them because they make him feel good about himself for once.
@@ssian5678 I feel differently i think once he realised he had romantic feelings for John-Paul as well he fell very deeply inlove with him and wanted to be with him and not Sarah but he was so frightened how his very homophobic family and others around the village would treat him that he clung to Sarah because she was the perfect cover once John-Paul revealed their relationship Craig finally stopped lying and admitted to his homophobic family that he was inlove with John-Paul and he was the one he wanted to be with and not Sarah Sarah was even willing to take Craig back she begged him 3 times to take her back and he turned her down saying that he wanted to be with John-Paul He wasn't ready how ever to be touchy feeling with his new boyfriend in public so John-Paul dumped him at the airport because he didn't want a relationship behind closed doors once Craig returned and told John-Paul he couldn't stop picturing what their life together could of been like he asked John-Paul whether he'd wished he had come with him John-Paul no i mean what difference does it make anyway Craig grabbed John-Paul by the face jusy swear that you dont want me and I'll walked out of here and you'll never see me again just say it John-Paul kissed Craig passionately and they slept together again at the trainstation Craig kissed John-Paul without any prompting from John-Paul and they boarded the train holding hands looking like any other couple inlove he even made a steve McQueen joke joking that John-Paul should tell people he's his cousin steve as everyone thinks im straight John-Paul exasperated what Craig im messing and throws his arm around John-Paul who laughs and kisses Craig neck
I wish they'd talked more like this rather than always fighting and having sex! This is one of the only episodes where Craig gives us a bit of insight into what's going on in his head, but even that doesn't make much sense. He tells JP that it's different with him, not just about sex - implying that it is with Sarah. But then he goes on to say that he does love Sarah, contradicting what he just said. I wish JP pushed him to explain a bit more when Craig kept saying it was 'different' with Sarah. He said it a lot but never explained why. Craig's confusion is obvious but JP must have been confused by all this too. I think JP's confusion is often overlooked in this storyline.
Yeah! I guess I interpret that statement a bit differently though. When he says that "it's different with you" to John Paul, I actually think he's referring to (and I know this is a little NSFW but I swear I read it in an interview a long time ago where Guy says he thinks Craig is the bottom in the relationship) the different role he plays sexually with Sarah and John Paul. Then when he says "it's not just about the sex" and that he loves him, I see that as him obliquely apologising for trying to get John Paul to accept being his dirty little secret and nothing more a few weeks back. To me this is one of the greatest McDean scenes because of the honesty and vulnerability with which the characters treat each other.
he says is different with you and it not just about the sex i love you and then is like i love you both like wtf lol. unless we suppose believe he is with Sarah mainly for sex and the perfect image of her as a girlfriend on his arm. but think his love for John Paul is pure and much more deeper/ best friends are who love/in love wth each other. I think his love for Sarah is more superficial.
I think it's more that he loves Sarah but he is in love with JP. Like the feelings he has for JP are more intense. I believe Guy Burnett said that JP was an "all consuming obsession" for Craig
@VariahR yes i think he was/is so in love with J-P that it freakt him out but it felt good being with sara, being liket, having friends but he can´t handel that J-P could just walk away.....like after J-P tells C that he´s in love with him and tell him that he will stay away from him and C jumps on the door..but it´s love,,what can one do..
Well he's said it a few times before at the dance off when he went in for their legendary first kiss💋. But this is the first time he says i love you meaning. I'm inlove with you Mcdean still rules would love Craig to come back
Craig definitely did handle it pretty badly, I agree with you there. At times I felt like shouting at my computer screen with the way he reacted on certain occasions. :L His head was an absolute mess. so I wasn't too suprised he acted the way he did, but it doesn't excuse his behaviour either. And I get were you're coming from, I don't think they would necassarily say how sweet he was when he knocked seven shades out of John Paul, or lead him on. ..Clearly I'm more off a prior to SE Craig fan.
Wait so jp is upset because Craig is in love with him but still dating Sarah while jp is in love with him and still dating spike? Like I know Craig's an ads not defending him but Craig is obviously having a hard time dealjng with the fact that he's gay but jp isn't. He knows he loves Craig and wants to be with him yet he stays by spikes side ? Why. How is he in the position to tell Craig to choose when he himself doesn't either or am I missing something .. so confused
Maybe I'm splitting hairs here, but I think John Paul sees it as a slightly different situation because he's openly gay and Spike knows about his attraction to Craig, and in that moment the two of them (John Paul and Craig) are not sleeping together, so even though they did in the past it's not an ongoing betrayal. John Paul views Craig as like him: a gay man struggling to come out. So he sees Craig as lying to Sarah constantly in a way that he isn't to Spike (since he'd told Craig that he wouldn't sleep with him again unless they could be a proper couple). And yeah bisexual erasure is a problem in a lot of media. I'm really really giving John Paul the benefit of the doubt here though. He does have a hypocritical streak to be honest.
John-Paul would dump Spike in a heartbeat for Craig if he'd only dump Sarah for him John-Paul had a conversation with Hannah when he was contemplating sleeping with Spike for the first time John-Paul told her he'd always had these feelings for boys although once he sleeps with him he will definetly be gay ever since Craig walked out of his exam and kissed John-Paul and dragged him upstairs to sleep together John-Paul believes that Craig is also gay but in denial i would say that Craig is not gay neither is he straight anymore i would say that he is bicurious Craig mostly fancies girls but has developed a deep attraction and love for John-Paul Craig is very scared how his mostly homophobic family and the rest of the village will react that why Craig still clings to Sarah
Is it just me or is Craig like a litle kid how whants what he can´t have and whene he gets it, it´s not fun enymore...When J-P givs in to him he´s in love with sarah but when J-P stands up for himself and tryes to kick him out he loves J-P...C loves J-P so every time he thinks he is going to lose him he panics and goes a bit mental...
I think he wants best both worlds and when feels one is slipping away does what he can to win them over, I do think Sarah was the easy option though, I think he loved JP more throughout.
John-Paul doesnt really want Spike though John-Paul has given his heart to Craig and wants Craig to be his boyfriend when you love some one its not logical it emotional spike is openly gay has no girlfriend and wants an exclusive relationship with John-Paul and yet John-Paul just can't switch off his feelings for Craig
I love the way they both smile at eachother when they pause from kissing.
I love the way that when sarah rings, craig looks at the phone, doesn't think twice about answering and just rests his head on JP's chest. Now that's love.
by far one of my favorite scenes between jp and craig. it explains everything and shows the depth of how much craig really does care and explains his inner turmoil. LOVE THEM!!
The little kisses and genuine smiles spoke volumes. Craig looked so completely happy and content lying in his arms! Just so adorable. I remember watching this scene over and over back in the day.
“How can I? She's involved!” - often I'm going about my life, doing nothing important, and then suddenly I'll remember John Paul saying that line. Not that it fits with whatever I'm doing or seeing, it just pops into my head at random moments.
lol
David Santos it happens to me all the time also! Haha
@@leannelynn7938 Haha yeah she was involved at this point but then so was spike
@@lucyhowarth1193 Spike/JP was more of a casual relationship, so he was not impacted any where near, Sarah and Craig were in a proper long term relationship and it was one of her close friends as well, must been a total betrayal for her.
@@FH1234-u2oI think Spike truly liked John-Paul and could see a future with him so he was very hurt when John-Paul rather abruptly dumped him at of the blue and he hoped they would get back together his eye sparkled when John-Paul asked him to hang out but he was only doing that to make Craig Jealous he was gutted when he found out that John-Paul loved Craig that much he would rather share Craig with Sarah than have an exclusive relationship with him
Awwwwh! This episode is so damn good! In this episode I think that Craig is actually coming to terms with his love for John Paul because after they had sex, Craig didn't leave. He kept cuddling John Paul. Oh and one more thing...the giggles in between their kisses were so, so, so cute!
Ugh I love those last 4 seconds of Craig resting on his chest
Ahhh they are just too much!
The kiss and then the way JP said Craig,,,oohhh my god. One more replay of that, no really, I mean it. One more and that's it *replays a million time**
PrinceJax same here Prince
It's funny, as soon as John Paul comes along, Craig's dress sense tends to get alot better. I mean, compare this, to when Craig had long hair and was wearing that washing powder T shirt LOL
Thanks so much for uploading this..
I love the end so much: how they kiss while smiling so happily is adorable!
Though I have not watched many of the earlier episodes--and, frankly, the ones I watched did not interest me in the same way as this storyline did--I completely agree with what you write here. I just watched the whole storyline of John Paul and Craig again, and I became much more impressed with the character of Craig. Yes, he wants to have it all, but he is bemused by his very own feelings. It is, also, clear that he is falling deeper in love with John Paul as every day goes by.
THE LEGENDARY KISS. MOST ROMANTIC PASSIONATE ON SCREEN KISS. THIEY SHUD GET AN OSCAR FOR THIS FINE PORTRAYAL OF EMOTIONS. WONDERFUL ACTING BY BOTH GUY & JAMES. I M SPEECHLESS.
THIS EVEN BLASTS THE BROKEBACK MOUNTAIN....SERIOUSLY LEGENDARY. HATS OFF.
I love how Craig smile when he kiss JP in his bed. That's so sweet !
"A lot of fascism in your game, isn't there?" Craig trying to defend John Paul haha.
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@@ianmith3954 Yeah Craig is absolutely besotted with John-Paul if Craig were frightened of social stigma Sarah would of already been out of the picture by now
Chrolli's and McDean's storylines are definitely addictive, aren't they???
Daniel Vanutti Indeed...have you watch Will/Sony and Ian/Mickey?
@@vanessaschissato not watched will& sony are Ian & Mickey from shameless or something else
That must've been the first time he said I love you because JP is in heaven. I am impressed. They don't kiss in a hurried manner but have true intimacy.
Craig actually told John-Paul he loved him at the dance off he said to John-Paul remember this alright i love you i love you John-Paul and Craig were both giggling Craig said again i love you and then leaned in to kiss John-Paul but this is the first time that Craig has told John-Paul he loves him as in He inlove with him
I've watched the 'I love you' scene so many times that I know the script and I repeat the words at the same time with both of them. That is so pathetic, I really should stop watching this over and over again.
Deepdarkmidnight D.D.M. same here. i think abt these 2 guys ALL THE TIME. EVEN IN OFFICE. ITS BECOMING DIFFICULT TO CONCENTRATE....😢😢😢
I love jp and craig, its a little weird that somehow jp's house is always empty even though so many people live there!xxx
I thought that was odd too. lol
Right?! Craig must always come over at the perfect time.
@@jlprizm Well they been bestfriends for a while Craig might know the McQueens schedule although the second time John-Paul and Craig slept together probably Mercedes sent Craig up believing Craig is just John-Paul bestfriend Mercedes and russ were arguing about his ex girlfriend Danny so didn't hear what they were up to
The look of pure joy on their faces at 9:17. 😍
Finally I found the episode!! This is the first time Craig says "I love you"! Hehehe McDean foreva
flipboidex this is not the 1st time he says it.
@@shwetap8531 Yeah Craig told John-Paul the night of the dance off remember this alright i love you i love you he laughed and then said i love you again Craig then kissed John-Paul not the other way around
they look so content with one another
WTF is Sarah wearing. She looks like something out of a superheroes comic. This is one of my favourite episodes. It's nice to see that even if Craig can't admit what he wante JP knows his true feelings anyway.
Gorgeous kiss and ADORE the scene at the end where Craig ignores his phone knowing it's Sarah, and rests his head contented on JPs chest.
I absolutely loved this storyline but i wished they had spoken about Craig being bisexual. Would have eased the confusion from John Paul's perspective. And it can feel different with men and women.
Jp: Do you wanna?
Craig: nods
Yeah once John-Paul and Craig started sleeping together they both seemed to have a one tracked mind funnily enough after Craig had come back from holiday John-Paul started to initiate most of their kisses when they were in Craig room together John-Paul goes to kiss Craig moves away and says not here John-Paul doesnt listen to Craig and says so stop me and begins kissing Craig neck to get him in the mood he continues to assault Craig neck with kisses until Craig gives and they end up in bed together once again Jack actually walks in on them whilst they are lying in bed together John-Paul hides under the covers and jack thinks that it is Sarah it would of been quite funny if Sarah would of walked into the dog at that moment jack would of been very shocked i don't think he would of given the game away but he definetly would of questioned Craig about it later on i don't reckon he would of guessed that Craig was sleeping with his bestmate though
Craig's character has a lot more depth than just being a 'jerk' The character of Craig had already been on the show 4 years prior to JP's arrival, so there was alot of character development, from a geeky, arrogant Dean, to a sexually confused man. Alot of people liked him for that development, and especially due to the way he matures in his return in 2008. It does help considering Guy is not lacking in the looks department, but Craig is a complex character, which alot of people like him for :)
MapleAndAnimeCrazy guy burnett should be awarded for his mature portrayal of Craig's complex character. wat a growing up.
haha ive watched this so many times i know the dialogue hahaha
ahhhhh i love them :(
Heheh. Sara looks like a Star Trek villain in this one.
Am I the only one concerned about Spike? I really like him. I feel bad that John Paul is cheating on him, even though JP and Craig have a lot of chemistry. Spike is such a nice guy.
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+Merlin Arthur Hahah. Thank you! ^.^
Spike didn't really deserve it, but at the same time he's presented as an older Out guy who's been around the block and wasn't looking for anything serious when he hooked up with JP so it's not a huge tragic drama that he got shut out in the end. I feel like Spike's character is optimistic and carefree so he probably didn't stay down about it for long.
@@ssian5678 I think spike did actually wanted things to become serious with John-Paul he tried to act like his feelings were quite casually but his actions betrayed his true feelings he said to John-Paul so you think we've got a future he took John-Paul out for a special meal and said happy anniversary he tried to be a loyal and loving boyfriend he was gutted when he got dumped out of the blue spike remained hopeful that John-Paul would get back with him he was heart broken when he realised that John-Paul had left him for Craig and that John-Paul loved Craig that much he would rather share Craig with Sarah than have an exclusive relationship with him he realised he just compete with Craig for John-Paul heart i think John Paul took one look at Craig with the dorky yellow jacket and fell instantly inlove with him he wanted to protect Craig from sonny he became bestfriends with Craig in order to get close to Craig
I believe that Craig was in love with Sarah in the beginning, while around this point he just loved her (he just didnt want to see that) and was IN love with John Paul.
personally i don't think their relationship was ever the same after she kissed rhys tbh, he was always jealous too, I think even if Craig not fell for JP their relationship wouldn't of lasted. I also think she was tempted by that model guy as well? I think she loved Craig but I think she might of bored of him herself or dumped him when she got into modelling or someone else come along.
Darren then and Darren now, always damn good looking. . .
He's less annoying now though
I think Craig is straight, and just has feelings for John Paul :)
what is that song playing in the backgournd whil the 4 of them is at craigs fam pub(i really like it)
Because this is the episode where Craig tells John Paul he loves him? And it's one of the sweetest McDean scenes ever?
JP and Craig are so beutiful together! Loved this ep :D
But sad he can't choose /= I could never be with some1 like that.
He ignored Sarah's call !!!! :D
I love this clip, craig loves JP, alot more than Sarah. There is know way, a straight man would ever want or love a gay man and still call himself straight. He's with Sarah, only because she every man dream. And Craig has always wanted the perfect girlfriend. but, had trouble keeping them or making them happy. With JP, there's know reason to try so hard. he's him self. Not paranoid. Which is a huge part of who he is.
@SteffyPlum I think Craig went a bit mental as you said ever since JP declared his love for him, cos Craig's character in the past was kind of a dork who was used and abandoned for the 2 girls he dated and suddenly he has the hottest girl on school as his girlfriend and the collest guy saying he's in love with him. It fucked up with his head I think, but I never doubted he loved JP more. He just didn't know how to handle the situation.
Yes, exactly. People forget that Craig was treated as a bit of a loser at school and in the village when he was younger (even getting bullied by classmates) and didn't have any close friends. It's a shock to him that when he gets to highschool he suddenly has a popular cool best mate and a gorgeous equally well-liked girlfriend, and he is loathe to let go of either of them because they make him feel good about himself for once.
@@ssian5678 I feel differently i think once he realised he had romantic feelings for John-Paul as well he fell very deeply inlove with him and wanted to be with him and not Sarah but he was so frightened how his very homophobic family and others around the village would treat him that he clung to Sarah because she was the perfect cover once John-Paul revealed their relationship Craig finally stopped lying and admitted to his homophobic family that he was inlove with John-Paul and he was the one he wanted to be with and not Sarah Sarah was even willing to take Craig back she begged him 3 times to take her back and he turned her down saying that he wanted to be with John-Paul
He wasn't ready how ever to be touchy feeling with his new boyfriend in public so John-Paul dumped him at the airport because he didn't want a relationship behind closed doors once Craig returned and told John-Paul he couldn't stop picturing what their life together could of been like he asked John-Paul whether he'd wished he had come with him John-Paul no i mean what difference does it make anyway Craig grabbed John-Paul by the face jusy swear that you dont want me and I'll walked out of here and you'll never see me again just say it John-Paul kissed Craig passionately and they slept together again at the trainstation Craig kissed John-Paul without any prompting from John-Paul and they boarded the train holding hands looking like any other couple inlove he even made a steve McQueen joke joking that John-Paul should tell people he's his cousin steve as everyone thinks im straight John-Paul exasperated what Craig im messing and throws his arm around John-Paul who laughs and kisses Craig neck
@BITCHnBEECH1702 I dont have this episode in higher quality atm, although I do still search for HD episodes from 2007 from time to time. :-)
kimbaforeva kimba, u r adorable uploading all these eps. can't Thank you enuf.
They made love again for the third time. :)
@kimbaforeva don't u have this vid on HD ? coz this one isn't as good as d rest. hope u can help.
I wish they'd talked more like this rather than always fighting and having sex!
This is one of the only episodes where Craig gives us a bit of insight into what's going on in his head, but even that doesn't make much sense.
He tells JP that it's different with him, not just about sex - implying that it is with Sarah. But then he goes on to say that he does love Sarah, contradicting what he just said.
I wish JP pushed him to explain a bit more when Craig kept saying it was 'different' with Sarah. He said it a lot but never explained why.
Craig's confusion is obvious but JP must have been confused by all this too. I think JP's confusion is often overlooked in this storyline.
Yeah! I guess I interpret that statement a bit differently though. When he says that "it's different with you" to John Paul, I actually think he's referring to (and I know this is a little NSFW but I swear I read it in an interview a long time ago where Guy says he thinks Craig is the bottom in the relationship) the different role he plays sexually with Sarah and John Paul. Then when he says "it's not just about the sex" and that he loves him, I see that as him obliquely apologising for trying to get John Paul to accept being his dirty little secret and nothing more a few weeks back. To me this is one of the greatest McDean scenes because of the honesty and vulnerability with which the characters treat each other.
he says is different with you and it not just about the sex i love you and then is like i love you both like wtf lol. unless we suppose believe he is with Sarah mainly for sex and the perfect image of her as a girlfriend on his arm. but think his love for John Paul is pure and much more deeper/ best friends are who love/in love wth each other. I think his love for Sarah is more superficial.
I think it's more that he loves Sarah but he is in love with JP. Like the feelings he has for JP are more intense. I believe Guy Burnett said that JP was an "all consuming obsession" for Craig
Really can't picture Evan as a model and Melissa is no stunner either
Honestly all I'm hearing is the Austin Powers whistle in the background at JP's house.
It's driving me MAD.
@VariahR yes i think he was/is so in love with J-P that it freakt him out but it felt good being with sara, being liket, having friends but he can´t handel that J-P could just walk away.....like after J-P tells C that he´s in love with him and tell him that he will stay away from him and C jumps on the door..but it´s love,,what can one do..
I have re-watched their scene like 20 times now but I can't tell if it's romantic or just frustrating. Both??
Jasmine L love lust & pain. but true love nonetheless.
John Paul... how could you believe he chose you just like that?
That's SOO hilarious! xD
@coffeetea720
Hahaha. I burst out in tears laughing at that table flip. xD
ROFL!
What's up with John Paul's hair in this episode?
do you wanna? lol that is so crazy!
is this the first time he says 'I love you' to JP? I can't remember..
Well he's said it a few times before at the dance off when he went in for their legendary first kiss💋.
But this is the first time he says i love you meaning. I'm inlove with you Mcdean still rules would love Craig to come back
jp has the most beautiful blue eyeees 8)
Jeez, whenever I look at Evan's face, I think of Ike Barinholtz.
At least we know that Evan is a lot worse than Craig - Evan is a stuck up pinhead whereas Craig is just totally confused.
Do you want me to PM you and tell you?
I don't like how this is Craig who decides everything in their relationship he pushes JP away then wants him then rejects him
Not very healthy
Hello..There's something called being bisexual....it's possible to love both of them..
Craig is the bottom??? wwwwwhat?
The Zutons - Secrets.
Craig definitely did handle it pretty badly, I agree with you there. At times I felt like shouting at my computer screen with the way he reacted on certain occasions. :L His head was an absolute mess. so I wasn't too suprised he acted the way he did, but it doesn't excuse his behaviour either. And I get were you're coming from, I don't think they would necassarily say how sweet he was when he knocked seven shades out of John Paul, or lead him on.
..Clearly I'm more off a prior to SE Craig fan.
dont you just love love-triangles?
haha love that you to are just haven a chat lol
Purdy kisses = win :D
9:40 I could stare at that for hours :)
i know right.
Wait so jp is upset because Craig is in love with him but still dating Sarah while jp is in love with him and still dating spike? Like I know Craig's an ads not defending him but Craig is obviously having a hard time dealjng with the fact that he's gay but jp isn't. He knows he loves Craig and wants to be with him yet he stays by spikes side ? Why. How is he in the position to tell Craig to choose when he himself doesn't either or am I missing something .. so confused
Maybe I'm splitting hairs here, but I think John Paul sees it as a slightly different situation because he's openly gay and Spike knows about his attraction to Craig, and in that moment the two of them (John Paul and Craig) are not sleeping together, so even though they did in the past it's not an ongoing betrayal. John Paul views Craig as like him: a gay man struggling to come out. So he sees Craig as lying to Sarah constantly in a way that he isn't to Spike (since he'd told Craig that he wouldn't sleep with him again unless they could be a proper couple). And yeah bisexual erasure is a problem in a lot of media.
I'm really really giving John Paul the benefit of the doubt here though. He does have a hypocritical streak to be honest.
John-Paul would dump Spike in a heartbeat for Craig if he'd only dump Sarah for him John-Paul had a conversation with Hannah when he was contemplating sleeping with Spike for the first time John-Paul told her he'd always had these feelings for boys although once he sleeps with him he will definetly be gay ever since Craig walked out of his exam and kissed John-Paul and dragged him upstairs to sleep together John-Paul believes that Craig is also gay but in denial i would say that Craig is not gay neither is he straight anymore i would say that he is bicurious Craig mostly fancies girls but has developed a deep attraction and love for John-Paul Craig is very scared how his mostly homophobic family and the rest of the village will react that why Craig still clings to Sarah
JP would dump Spike where as Craig always runs back to Sarah is the difference.
melissa looks well pretty before she gets really underweight! :)
mmmm when JP opens the door and Craigs there, Craig jst looks so mmmmm
I think John Paul is being quite unfair, theres a thing called bissexual!! we know Craig is not, but still he could be.
Craig is a duplicitious, conniving user who requires emotional and psychological manipulations to get what he wants. What a charming guy...
@perfectlyDazzed lol I know, right? It's apparently unheard of. Like unicorns, bisexuals are. :/
Is it just me or is Craig like a litle kid how whants what he can´t have and whene he gets it, it´s not fun enymore...When J-P givs in to him he´s in love with sarah but when J-P stands up for himself and tryes to kick him out he loves J-P...C loves J-P so every time he thinks he is going to lose him he panics and goes a bit mental...
I think he wants best both worlds and when feels one is slipping away does what he can to win them over, I do think Sarah was the easy option though, I think he loved JP more throughout.
OOHH MMYYY GAYYY!!!!!!
@kimbaforeva ok. thanks ! :D
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Why the hell would JP ever wannabe with Craig, that is beyond me. JP is too much of a great guy for Craig. He should just go back to Spike.
John-Paul doesnt really want Spike though John-Paul has given his heart to Craig and wants Craig to be his boyfriend when you love some one its not logical it emotional spike is openly gay has no girlfriend and wants an exclusive relationship with John-Paul and yet John-Paul just can't switch off his feelings for Craig
He always loved Craig though, Spike sure is probably the better option but he loves Craig.