Who is Protecting Cytonn and What Exactly Happened

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  • Опубліковано 17 гру 2024

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  • @mugendikariuki7622
    @mugendikariuki7622 2 місяці тому +21

    You lend me money to build a hsouse so we sell and make money, something happens and instead of discussing solutions, you start name-calling and asking for your money, yet the project is halfway done ..where do i get the money to pay you😢

    • @MoneyVersations
      @MoneyVersations  2 місяці тому +2

      This summarized my whole video 💯💯

    • @mugendikariuki7622
      @mugendikariuki7622 2 місяці тому +4

      The investors here are acting as their own enemies. But Kenyans break rule no 1 of investment...only invest in what you understand

    • @aissatasylla5479
      @aissatasylla5479 2 місяці тому +7

      This is not what happened. I lend you money, without seeking my input, you decide to put the business I lent to, into administration.

    • @raydeemed
      @raydeemed 2 місяці тому +5

      ​@@aissatasylla5479 did you read the contract? Did you read somewhere that they have to get input from you?

    • @gabiesanchez8943
      @gabiesanchez8943 2 місяці тому +5

      Plus they signed and agreed to all the terms and conditions of the contract they had. But now they want to run away from that fact; that they willingly and happily signed. No wonder all judges are throwing away their cases. Dande and Cytonn did not misappropriate any funds, it's just Covid that messed up their business model.

  • @adammwangi7720
    @adammwangi7720 2 місяці тому +2

    ‘Luck and Risk: Nothing is as good or as bad as it seems.’ This is chapter 2 in the book The Psychology of Money. Great analysis.

  • @mikemwinzi343
    @mikemwinzi343 23 дні тому

    A summary of court rulings of today
    1. Cytonn applied for removal of OR saying its illegal and wanted the OR to be replaced- this application was denied by the Judge.
    2. Cytonn wanted the court orders on selling assets removed-this application was denied by the Judge.
    3. Cytonn wanted the Debt Restructuring Proposal to be presented to creditors -this application was denied by the Judge
    4. Cytonn wanted Edwin Dande to be enjoined in the cases- the Judge ruled its like he is already enjoined since he is a central party to the cases as Director and shareholder.
    Further orders by the Judge
    1. All assets of Cytonn to be sold.
    2. Cytonn has been ordered to surrender all title deeds within 7 days and if they do not, the OR has been allowed to get provisional titles.
    3. The OCS or police officers of where all the properties of Cytonn are located to assist in taking the assets from Cytonn so they can be given to the OR to be sold.
    4. Cytonn has been allowed 30 days to allow people in houses that have been occupied to vacate the properties.
    5. All parties have been ordered to support and cooperate with the liquidation process being led by the OR.
    6. A date of 3rd February 2025 has been given where the court will be informed on the progress of the court orders issued.
    *the only matter that was not clear today was regarding the houses at Alma, where it is yet not known how many are legally purchased and how many are still available to be sold to pay the bank loan and creditors. The court has also given the 3rd of February 2025 as the date when it will hear applications and updates regarding this matter.
    @mikemwinzi343
    2 weeks ago (edited)
    😂😂😂 these guys were thieves. With his fellow partners, they would craft illegal contracts that would see loan notes unknown to chys/ cpn investors, exchanged for unsecured billlions. They would then buy assets under their names. Further, the thieves would remain in possession of the title instruments. A court appointed administrator confirmed the company has been illiquid since 2017. Covid only happened in 2020. Today, dande has refused to handover these title deeds. He has refused to be liquidated by further lying that creditors would lose 86% of their money. dande is a ponzi schemer, heartless plus very litigious inorder to buy time. Even those invested in their MMF ought be careful. Nothing is legal in Cytonn. Lots of live mines all over their investment landscape

    • @MoneyVersations
      @MoneyVersations  22 дні тому

      My prayer is that the clients get what's rightfully theirs and not end up losing their money. May justice be served ⚖️

  • @ImNimmu
    @ImNimmu 2 місяці тому +3

    I've always struggled to understand Cytonn but now I do. Thank you.
    Question though, can't they sell some of the complete or undeveloped assets to unlock liquidity, complete the stalled projects and return value. Better still, they could do debt to equity swap which is not new in the market. Centum did it after covid and Kenya Airways have done it. The problem looks trivial for them, they just lack imagination.

  • @aissatasylla5479
    @aissatasylla5479 2 місяці тому +6

    Thank you. This is an important question. Dande got a court order preventing Kenya Police from investigating this matter even when a formal complaint was made. Have you ever heard of this? Police being told not to investigate?

    • @MoneyVersations
      @MoneyVersations  2 місяці тому

      You're welcome my sister.
      Honestly, that's new, I have not been following it that closely.
      But Wait, I know you can get orders to stop being arrested, so now you can get orders to stop being investigated as well 🙆🏽🙆🏽
      This Kenya I keep learning something new every day

    • @mugendikariuki7622
      @mugendikariuki7622 2 місяці тому

      @@MoneyVersations Conspiracy theorists...Imagine kenya police investigating financial crimes😀😀. Afande akisoma a contract that a well educted guy couldnt read

  • @alphaprinters9765
    @alphaprinters9765 2 місяці тому +7

    That covid thing is just an excuse. Why didn't other real estate companies collapsed? Or they didn't experienced covid? Dande is a shady character, and if you dig a little deep into his background you'll find out that he embezzled funds when he was working in britam as a top manager and left the company nearly dead. This guy has always been having misappropriation of funds issues. Investment in his company at your own peril

    • @MoneyVersations
      @MoneyVersations  2 місяці тому

      Akipatikana na hatia, may he face the full force of law. However don't miss the point of the video bruh.. it just clears the air how and why by law people chained them to something hawana power over. Check the pinned comment to understand the summary of my video. Whether what happened was right or wrong, it's not the purpose of the video, I believe utapeleka evidence now that unajua what happened and how it broke the law tusaidie mainvestor wapate their money by all means. You might be their savior bro

    • @ruddyn8542
      @ruddyn8542 2 місяці тому

      He was taken to court and agreed to settle out of court due to his popularity at the peak of his career at cytonn at the time, he paid his ex employers​@@MoneyVersations

  • @selyne5115
    @selyne5115 2 місяці тому

    When was this .....coz am clueless on the issues

  • @wanjirualice35
    @wanjirualice35 2 місяці тому +1

    Can imagine the volumes of fine print that so many investors overlooked plus the numerous subsidiaries and SPVs the company has. Unfortunately i see a court case going on for decades but a least its a teachable example for many would be finance investors.

  • @incaseyoumissed9268
    @incaseyoumissed9268 2 місяці тому +5

    Wale wamekuja kwa comments kwanza hebu gather here 😂

  • @joshuaonyango5943
    @joshuaonyango5943 2 місяці тому +1

    Knowledge is power... thanks for the enlightenment

    • @MoneyVersations
      @MoneyVersations  2 місяці тому +1

      You're welcome Josh. Good to hear from you

  • @nico-ng3pt
    @nico-ng3pt 2 місяці тому +1

    Thanks for the video ❤

    • @MoneyVersations
      @MoneyVersations  2 місяці тому +1

      You're welcome! I'm glad you found it helpful.

  • @alphaprinters9765
    @alphaprinters9765 2 місяці тому +7

    And by the way you Moneyversations guy normally promote investments like a financial guru and when things go sour you start to act as an outsider... you start to talk as if you never encouraged anyone to invest with them in the first place. You are also a financial con artists like dande😂

    • @MoneyVersations
      @MoneyVersations  2 місяці тому

      Mtatuonyesha mambo😂
      Unfortunately you missed the point of the video but ni sawa kaka. And again you think this event happened yesterday 😂
      I stand to be held accountable if I have spoken about a product that has taken people south. Take each video and prove one by one then claim any prize if I have promoted a product that has hurt people. Anyways, good to hear from you my good friend. Au sio 😂 hii Kenya lazima you allow people to vent

    • @mugendikariuki7622
      @mugendikariuki7622 2 місяці тому +2

      All investments bear an inherent risk. Its not the work of other people to do due diligence for you

    • @moriamartinmariomuriira2644
      @moriamartinmariomuriira2644 2 місяці тому +1

      If you had earn your money and someone directs you to invest your money somewhere n you do without any due diligence, you don't blame anyone but yourself.

  • @kimanianthony3799
    @kimanianthony3799 Місяць тому +1

    Is my mmf safe with cytonn as per now can I continue investing with them

    • @MoneyVersations
      @MoneyVersations  Місяць тому

      MMF is safe 💯

    • @henrycollins3604
      @henrycollins3604 22 дні тому +1

      It's not only safest but also earns an intereat of 18.3% .which in the current momey markets happens to be the highest returns.

  • @daviestanyassis128
    @daviestanyassis128 2 місяці тому +8

    This was a clear case of misappropriation of funds. Nothing to do with COVID or anything of that sort. Edwin Dande is a con who tried to use legal jargon to defraud investors but he couldn't outsmart everyone. As you've published this video, the case is now in liquidation and the assets that he bought using investor funds will be sold to recover their money

    • @MoneyVersations
      @MoneyVersations  2 місяці тому

      Thanks for the addition, I think someday perhaps we'll know the exact truth..all in all, we pray everyone gets their money back. That's my sincere prayer.

    • @kennethokumu6375
      @kennethokumu6375 2 місяці тому +1

      ​​​​@@MoneyVersationscytonn investors share the blame themselves l!...in the high yield fund some investors went to court by themselves to liquidate their investments ... Investors fell for politics which were being pushed by some monied investors who drowned with everyone.... This was a private investment... Instead of looking out for individual interest they fell for the group "herd" psychology... Big problem... 🤷🏾 That's what is filtering out... It was better to enter into a medium to long-term restructure agreeable to both parties... So that they can salvage their investments in the long run... People must learn to think individually not as a group as everyone's economic power is different not the same.

    • @alphaprinters9765
      @alphaprinters9765 2 місяці тому +2

      I agree with you 💯%. Dande is a financial con artists and he used covid as an excuse. Look at what he did in britam while he was a top manager...he embezzled funds and they didn't took him anywhere because he had his tracks while covered up by law. He's a very shady character

    • @steo9285
      @steo9285 2 місяці тому

      ​@MoneyVersations What about the Cytonn High Yield Fund (CHYF) they are offering today? It states that the Capital Markets Authority (CMA) has oversight of CHYF's operations.There is a custodian and a fund manager. What's your take? Safe I would say?

    • @fredkangethe7497
      @fredkangethe7497 2 місяці тому +3

      This bulshit cyton almost conned me. They were marketing to me every day. Thank Jehova I didn't get into their pin man. Wakwende huko kubaff.

  • @hezekiahcharles6754
    @hezekiahcharles6754 2 місяці тому +7

    The issue is, people invested in a CYTONN fund that was not regulated by CMA... That's CYHS/CPS
    Their other investment products are all regulated....
    It's not that people lost their money, it's locked up in Cytonn assets.... The case is on going in court...
    Their MMF is the best in the market, and has the best infrastructure.

  • @TheKamikraze
    @TheKamikraze 2 місяці тому +2

    Read your contracts word by word. If you don't understand, get someone who does to read for you. Beware of merchants, vendors and service providers. They have covered themselves fully. It's you who is at risk. Understand what you're signing.

  • @RonnyAwuor-qn2wg
    @RonnyAwuor-qn2wg 2 місяці тому +1

    That was helpful .thank you!

  • @johnmugendi1930
    @johnmugendi1930 2 місяці тому +2

    Can this happen to etica i leave it today??

    • @MoneyVersations
      @MoneyVersations  2 місяці тому +2

      😂😂John, all products in Etica ziko regulated. Make sure the products you deal with in any of this companies ni zile nimeongea about, cz zenye ni scam, hutaskia nikimention or encourage anyone to go near.

    • @io1656
      @io1656 2 місяці тому +1

      😂😂

    • @Pablitonyangs
      @Pablitonyangs 2 місяці тому +1

      Cytonn was regulated as well. Etica might fall​@@MoneyVersations

    • @Unearth_Lyn
      @Unearth_Lyn 2 місяці тому

      Go for cic n the likes of coop n kcB MMF ubaya wa wakenya tunapenda interests za juu na pesa ya haraka alafu kinaturamba

    • @incaseyoumissed9268
      @incaseyoumissed9268 2 місяці тому +1

      ​​@@Unearth_Lynthat's misleading
      All companies are exposed to those same risks. shida ni we jump to conclusions, hata CIC was once upon a time new na wengine wakaogopa. Now they are old

  • @nelimatheusahomesteader
    @nelimatheusahomesteader 2 місяці тому +2

    You were rooting for them. CIC all the way

    • @MoneyVersations
      @MoneyVersations  2 місяці тому

      Hi Mary, the same can happen with any company that chooses to run an unregulated product. I never root for any unregulated product so please recheck the source.. MMF is regulated. If you have watched the video you heard what I'm talking about in this video that went south.

  • @1m.1
    @1m.1 2 місяці тому +1

    So is their mmf safe??😢

    • @incaseyoumissed9268
      @incaseyoumissed9268 2 місяці тому

      I thought this was the clarification in the video, MMF is regulated and is safe, the problem was with the two unregulated funds.

    • @MoneyVersations
      @MoneyVersations  2 місяці тому

      yes it is

    • @jaqiw
      @jaqiw 2 місяці тому

      Pull out your money from them. As long as Mr. Dande is running Cytonn and deceiving people you might just loose everything. Don’t say you weren’t warned. Best to invest in government bonds.

  • @robertmuiruri550
    @robertmuiruri550 2 місяці тому +3

    What happened was not investors fault. The investors didn't know cytonn wasn't regulated

    • @MoneyVersations
      @MoneyVersations  2 місяці тому

      I agree with you 💯
      But still terms and conditions got them bound..that's why I pray a miracle happens they get back their money

    • @moriamartinmariomuriira2644
      @moriamartinmariomuriira2644 2 місяці тому

      It's investors fault cos when signing into the investment there's a list of terms n conditions n they signed

  • @kamausamuel5942
    @kamausamuel5942 2 місяці тому +2

    Thanks for the information. The mic is really a put off. Possible to invest in a more tech one, please.Am tempted to think it's something you want to blow or bite.

    • @MoneyVersations
      @MoneyVersations  2 місяці тому +1

      Hey Samuel😂 great feedback bro..I'll be getting there soon, we started from the bottom and yes soon it will get better. You're good friend

  • @sarahwanjiru191
    @sarahwanjiru191 2 місяці тому +3

    Thanks for this info.. Am going to inbox you about KCB mmf.

    • @MoneyVersations
      @MoneyVersations  2 місяці тому

      Great! you're welcome

    • @jamesoyoo2315
      @jamesoyoo2315 2 місяці тому

      @sarahwanjiku is there anything fishy with KCB MMF i have an account there kindly help me sister

    • @jamesoyoo2315
      @jamesoyoo2315 2 місяці тому

      Anything wrong with the KCB MMF 😢😢😢😢 HELP PLEASE

    • @priscillanduta3762
      @priscillanduta3762 2 місяці тому

      Sarah Wanjiru is there a problem with KCB money market? Kindly enlighten us to avoid loses

    • @jamesoyoo2315
      @jamesoyoo2315 2 місяці тому

      @@antonykimeu3102 yes

  • @maryachieng1665
    @maryachieng1665 2 місяці тому

    Iam investing in MMF with cytonn for three years,and i have no issues withdrawing my money....Should i be worried now?

    • @chriswambua4035
      @chriswambua4035 2 місяці тому +5

      Withdraw your funds immediately. Where there is smoke, there is fire. When the situation settles, reinvest your funds.

    • @maryachieng1665
      @maryachieng1665 2 місяці тому

      @@chriswambua4035 Thanks

    • @incaseyoumissed9268
      @incaseyoumissed9268 2 місяці тому +1

      Mary, the video is clearly saying that the problem was with the two products which were not regulated. The regulated products are safe and doing great.

    • @incaseyoumissed9268
      @incaseyoumissed9268 2 місяці тому

      ​@@chriswambua4035that's incorrect bro

    • @maryachieng1665
      @maryachieng1665 2 місяці тому +1

      @@incaseyoumissed9268 Oh! Then iam at peace, Thanks 😊

  • @tonykarim6941
    @tonykarim6941 2 місяці тому +2

    Thanks mm nilikuwa nimestuka

    • @MoneyVersations
      @MoneyVersations  2 місяці тому

      Hii ni story ya 2020 bro.. the other funds hazikuwa za manyumba..all is well

  • @VenenciaAnyango-up3vl
    @VenenciaAnyango-up3vl 2 місяці тому

    Is etica safe

  • @paulnyagini
    @paulnyagini 2 місяці тому +2

    If i was cytonn . I would have lurch an etf it would be easier for the investors to liquidating there position by now.

    • @MoneyVersations
      @MoneyVersations  2 місяці тому

      I think they need to think outside the box to figure out how to raise those funds cz the development projects are stuck and I don't think there's any investor is willing to give them more money to finish them.

    • @paulnyagini
      @paulnyagini 2 місяці тому

      @@MoneyVersations yeah unless they find a sofisticated investor.
      The problem with that a sharp whale will not be interested because it will probably take time for cytonn to get back to green.
      Honestly speaking paying back the investors will be the only way to get back the credibility.
      The real problem is not the fact that cytonn failed to deliver the profits but they fail to guarantee liquidity for the capital.
      This is a lesson that should be learned by every investment companies.
      If they had Lurch a REIT from the start and give the contract to one of the banks to guarantee liquidity they won't be in this position in the first place.

    • @paulnyagini
      @paulnyagini 2 місяці тому

      @@MoneyVersations i have the ability of creating an ETF asset class that may help cytonn to liquidate the investor at the best price possible without effecting the cytonn cash flow.
      We only need the Capital market approval to list it at NSE. And I can show you how to guarantee the liquidity of that asset class.
      Not only that I have developed several deravatives models that can put cytonn back to the top of its competitors.

  • @Ogolla_Official
    @Ogolla_Official 2 місяці тому +2

    If CHYS was a limited company why were they allowed to collect money from the public

    • @MoneyVersations
      @MoneyVersations  2 місяці тому

      My question too.. perhaps we can start the investigation on the part where they were not regulated and next question, are you allowed to make a private offer as an entity to partner up with someone?

    • @incaseyoumissed9268
      @incaseyoumissed9268 2 місяці тому +2

      I think I must be the only one who saw that part in the agreement that stated that this was a private offer and doesn't need CMA approval, ama mnacomment before mwatch the whole video maybe 🤔
      I think my problem would be, people didn't know exactly what they were getting into. The devil alijificha kwa fine print

    • @gabiesanchez8943
      @gabiesanchez8943 2 місяці тому +2

      Churches, Chamas, Harambees, and other private arrangements to mobilize funds can collect money from the public without needing approvals from anyone. The investors read and signed the terms and conditions, and that's why they cannot charge Dande with any crimes.

    • @incaseyoumissed9268
      @incaseyoumissed9268 2 місяці тому

      @@gabiesanchez8943 💯💯💯

    • @alphaprinters9765
      @alphaprinters9765 2 місяці тому

      Exactly! You can't collect money from the public unless you are licensed and regulated by a government body in the first place

  • @augustinetumuti6730
    @augustinetumuti6730 2 місяці тому +2

    Thank you

  • @judymacharia4638
    @judymacharia4638 2 місяці тому +1

    Are we safe in Erica

  • @tushiyakey9677
    @tushiyakey9677 2 місяці тому +5

    I left as smoothly as possible from their mmf when they started charging Ledger fee. Ledger fee monthly to all customers sounded so fishy to me. I ejected my friend 😄

    • @MoneyVersations
      @MoneyVersations  2 місяці тому

      Yeah..hapo kwa ledger fee pia Mimi ndio I withdrew 100%
      I felt like it's not justified kabisa when you already charge a management fee.

    • @abumagiokiplasma4711
      @abumagiokiplasma4711 2 місяці тому

      i also left

  • @janetmwangi-f4w
    @janetmwangi-f4w 2 місяці тому +5

    You have been marketing cyton for the longest time.

    • @MoneyVersations
      @MoneyVersations  2 місяці тому

      Hey Janet, the product I have reviewed is Money Market Fund, and nobody has been affected in MMF. And FYI I spoke about CMMF last year, this one is a 2020/21 issue.. unfortunately most people think it's a recent event. This video's purpose was to inform what happened and not to blame anyone either the investor or the company. Thank you for the feedback

    • @janetmwangi-f4w
      @janetmwangi-f4w 2 місяці тому +2

      @@MoneyVersations No offense....but it's also good to caution where necessary. Don't be single sided. Some of us have lost money

    • @user-kpkxgtj
      @user-kpkxgtj 2 місяці тому +1

      ​@@janetmwangi-f4w the money market fund and the high yield fund are 2 different things, and they are run differently.

  • @rhymontic
    @rhymontic 2 місяці тому +2

    Bruh, as long as they dont touch/ screw up with money market fund i'm fine

  • @JACKLINETABITHA-l5v
    @JACKLINETABITHA-l5v 2 місяці тому +7

    Dande return our money

  • @fredTek
    @fredTek 2 місяці тому +1

    I sold cytonn a solution worth 50k kumbe ilikuwa pesa zenyu
    Poleni😊

  • @erickjuma7643
    @erickjuma7643 2 місяці тому +2

    Is Cytonn the one that did Crystal Rivers?

  • @lisaogembo473
    @lisaogembo473 2 місяці тому +1

    Fast forward to 6 minutes into the video to listen to the real issue.

    • @MoneyVersations
      @MoneyVersations  2 місяці тому

      Correct, but that's If you already have the background of where the company started, but if you don't know..you'll miss the history. Imagine some people don't know what's going on entirely or are like what the ... Is this cytonn thing

  • @SheagsEnterprisesLimited
    @SheagsEnterprisesLimited 2 місяці тому +6

    Cytonn mole

  • @MrPushAT
    @MrPushAT 2 місяці тому

    Basically, the law of signing a contract is protecting Cytonn😅

    • @MoneyVersations
      @MoneyVersations  2 місяці тому

      You basically answered the question in the title to the best summary 👌🏽👌🏽 😂

  • @EMMANUEL-GODWITHUS5976
    @EMMANUEL-GODWITHUS5976 2 місяці тому +3

    kindly be going to the point...you bore with a lot of noise just for the sake of the length of the video

    • @MoneyVersations
      @MoneyVersations  2 місяці тому +3

      Great feedback 🙏🏽🙏🏽 and thank you. However,
      Length doesn't matter mister. Whether it's 2mins or 2hrs. There's no quota being chased.
      Anyway, We'll find a balance for those who need clarity through broad explanation and those who prefer shorts kinda videos

    • @langat007
      @langat007 2 місяці тому +2

      ​@@MoneyVersations the 11 minutes were well worthy it.

    • @MoneyVersations
      @MoneyVersations  2 місяці тому

      ​@@langat007thank you 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽

  • @mluhyahalisi6486
    @mluhyahalisi6486 2 місяці тому

    A curse in the house of the thief

    • @henrycollins3604
      @henrycollins3604 22 дні тому

      No thief , here and I there is,then the curse is un necessary..we intercept and send the curse back to sender In the mighty name of Yeshua hamaschia Son of Jehovah Mekkadishken.Lebraanda zooos

  • @ichooseviolence2532
    @ichooseviolence2532 2 місяці тому +4

    Only Cytonn MMF is okay but the rest don't even dare!!

    • @jaqiw
      @jaqiw 2 місяці тому +1

      😂😂😂 you probably work for cytonn. The biggest pyramid scheme to exist to date!

    • @ichooseviolence2532
      @ichooseviolence2532 2 місяці тому +3

      @@jaqiw stop using your sehemu telezi to think 🤚

  • @wanderinderituh459
    @wanderinderituh459 2 місяці тому +1

    Hehehee,more reason why I invested directly with CBK!

    • @incaseyoumissed9268
      @incaseyoumissed9268 2 місяці тому

      Na Ruto akiangusha uchumi..Risks are everywhere

    • @MoneyVersations
      @MoneyVersations  2 місяці тому +1

      😂😂 always calculate your risks

    • @mugendikariuki7622
      @mugendikariuki7622 2 місяці тому +1

      All investments bear an inherent risk. Its not the work of other people to do due diligence for you. Even CBK has risks but we still invest. I am into CBK, cytonn and Etica. Rightnow tomato farmers are crying..Food was a safe investment right?

    • @incaseyoumissed9268
      @incaseyoumissed9268 2 місяці тому

      @@mugendikariuki7622 💯💯💯 correct

    • @wanderinderituh459
      @wanderinderituh459 2 місяці тому

      @@mugendikariuki7622 all investors knows that no investment is risk free,what matters is whether it's low risk or high risk.
      And why should I pay fund manager while I can do it myself?

  • @calebwanyiri8597
    @calebwanyiri8597 2 місяці тому +1

    What is the progress of Etica WhatsApp Group that you were making for us,

    • @MoneyVersations
      @MoneyVersations  2 місяці тому

      Hey, you can WhatsApp me about it. 🙏🏽🙏🏽

    • @io1656
      @io1656 2 місяці тому

      Yaani my dear I joined Etica coz of you then you leave me out of the whatsapp group? Alaaar 😂 nakutext saa hii tu!

    • @peetzpeter6367
      @peetzpeter6367 2 місяці тому

      Great sir,this is the information I have been yearning for.i watched someone's video,he said he can't talk about that company in details.

    • @lydiamuatha1383
      @lydiamuatha1383 2 місяці тому

      Woow, that's great add me too please

    • @MoneyVersations
      @MoneyVersations  2 місяці тому +1

      ​@@peetzpeter6367thank you 🙏🏽🙏🏽