Ukraine has a mobilization problem | This Week in Ukraine S2 E14
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- Опубліковано 12 кві 2024
- “This Week in Ukraine” is Kyiv Independent’s podcast hosted by Anastasiia Lapatina. Every week, Anastasiia sits down with her newsroom colleagues and experts to discuss Ukraine’s most pressing issues.
Season 2 Episode 14 is dedicated to Ukraine's struggles with mobilization.
Host Anastasiia is joined by Kyiv Independent reporter Francis Farrell.
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Please don't pause the Podcast. I listen to it eagerly and it is a valuable ukrainian perspective, that is generally needed, but what I cherish the most about it. I urge you to continue, please! We need more Ukrainian Voices and your Viewpoints on the war. Don't let others talk about you, otherwise they'll drive the narrative.
Great work Ukraine 🇺🇦 keep fighting for independence you deserve it 🇬🇧
Crap ... if so then provide more Challys ... ASAP
I hope the podcast pause is very temporary - the info you've provided is unavailable elsewhere and extremely appreciated. The reach is global - Canadian Ukrainians especially thankful for your efforts. Slava Ukraini
Im surprised and saddened the podcasts is on pause, its a great and informative piece of journalism!
Shame on Russia
So you're sorry 4th Reich is going down like the 3rd Reich😂😅😅😅
I’m a westerner so I don’t understand Ukrainian culture that well, but it’s absolutely amazing to me that there’s millions of able bodied men who are unwilling to volunteer to fight. This is an existential threat to Ukrainian society/culture/state. There’s thousands (if not 10s of thousands) of foreigners who have fought or are fighting for Ukraine and able bodied Ukrainians are hiding. It’s pretty sad and disrespectful imo. FYI I tried to join international legion but they said don’t bother since I don’t have military experience
Not everyone cares and not everyone understands. Others are scared. They didn't take you, so you have an excuse, maybe try to get military experience then, huh?
Foreign fighters are mercenaries. They fight for living
@samstew6797 Well, if we go by pre 2014 election results, a third to half of the country either identified as Russian or at least wanted close relations...economically especially...with Russia. The men in these groups...largely in the east and south...don't want to die for a NATO/EU/ultranationalist Ukraine.
@@mitchyoung93 ok 👌 😂🤣😂🤣
It was the Ukrainians who really wanted to protect their country. At the beginning of the war, there were so many people in percentage terms that there would be no other Western country. However, Zelensky decided to fight to the end and with his policies ruined Ukrainians within the country. Also, Western countries did not want Russia to defeat and did not take advantage of the chance when Russia was weak. Now the chance is lost. People in Ukraine have already realized that going to war is a one-way ticket. Look at the video with huge cemeteries. Plus, they began to take people with health problems to the front; someone always dies before even reaching the front.
I sincerely hope this is only a pause. The information you have shared is invaluable to "outsiders" like me, and the format is excellent.
Stay strong.
I hope the "pause" in the pod is a brief one. I've really appreciated the information and have been listening since the beginning. Слава Україні!
As always, this has been a great update to explaine the nuance of attitudes and politics of Ukrainian society. Great job! Slava Ukraine!
Sad to hear the podcast will be paused. All of the interviews were very interesting, dealing with current topics, I always enjoyed listening to the episodes and I learned a lot from them. Hope the pause is just temporary and you will resume it soon.
The Ukrainian government needs to offer meaningful incentives, like land, money, pension any bloody thing to make this people that have left the country to come back.. No war is fought for free.. For every month on the front line means 500m2 of land.
This is a very difficult situation to be in! No matter how you look at it and how you feel about war Ukraine doesn't really have much of a choice at this point! I graduated in June of 71 and was drafted in October to go to Vietnam! As a pacifist this is the last thing I wanted to do but I did my service! The conversation about being mobilized and fearing they won't be able to get enough people is dangerous for the country as a whole! For those of us who are sending everything we can and fighting our politicians to continue funding your nation this conversation is deleterious! The corruption issues as we were told with the recruiting offices has been taken care of! If Ukrainians aren't willing to stand up for their own freedom it's only going to help Putin in his quest to destroy your nation! I truly hope your people rise up to the nightmare they're facing and do the right thing! I'm looking at things through American eyes and I know it's different there but the bottom line is freedom vs Russian slavery!
i really like this series so really hope it comes back; it's been so informative!
Thank you for This Week in Ukraine. I'll make sure to continue watching all your other content, & supporting your patreon.
I'm going to miss my Saturday afternoon updates from your team. They have been extremely informative, probably because the format of questioning a journalist colleague to some depth is very rewarding. I like the KI UA-cam content as well, but The Week In Ukraine was my quiet moment of learning about Ukraine. Thanks and good luck.
Another terrific podcast for us outside Ukraine to learn about the political/military/civilian aspects of mobilization.
Thank you! 💙💛 You do a great job!
Good podcast, I havn't listened to each and everyone, but I have found it worth my time every time I have listened to it.
women should be drafted also
They should be drafted into the civilian workforce to replace the men who are drafted.
I am rather surprised that some people won't protect their families, their homes, their identity, their existence, War IS terrible, slavery is worse.
Crap ... hundred of millions have survived and even prospered under slavery.
@gerryhouska2859 Not joining NATO != 'Slavery' . Giving autonomy and the right to use the Great Russian language to appropriate oblasts isn't 'Slavery'.
I’m sad that you are putting “this week in Ukraine on pause”. I have noticed that you have fewer followers than some truly terrible channels on UA-cam.
You could grow your viewership by making collaboration videos with other authentic voices.
I’ll mention one: Greg Terry. He worked in Ukraine for years and then started collaborating and has grown exponentially. There are many other examples.
I hope to hear your voice soon.
Разом ми переможемо
Why why why did it take so long.. It's same like the defence line and the severe lack of personal ballistic protection.. Then expecting warriors to clear trenches without this sort of protection.. Such a waste of good troops..
Really loved this podcast. The only reason I really considered becoming a member of TKI.
Excellent report - thanks!
Thank you for this video. I really love your content.
Ukraine needs total mobilization look at South Korea, Taiwan. People need to rotate from battle. whoever is not employed has to join military.
Since you can only train a limited number of men at a time an annual fair draft of 100,000 with incentives I.e. GI bill would likely be more acceptable
Good and informative interview.
Remember that time, when they told us Russia have people and equipment problems. Well, Ukraine is admitting now that they have both in an acute shortagage ( people and equipment)😂😂
Thanks again
What good is a mobilization if Ukraine Can't "win".
I am pro-Uraine, but Ukraine will never reclaim their original borders.
This statement is based on facts. Front lines are crumbling, and Russia isn't even close to "all in".
Peace talks are the Only way lives can be spared. The only way talks happen is if Zelensky and Russia meet at the negotiation table...not the US.
Ukraine will reclaim both Crimea and Donbas.
It was zelensky who didn't accept the talk with Putin.Russia had not been invading Ukraine if Ukraine, NATO alliance didn't have provoked Russia,Putin have been warning west from 2007 that Ukraine should be buffer zone to west and vice versa 👀🤔
@@terjeoseberg990 How?
From the start it was known that this war is a numbers game. Russians came with not enough soldiers and this was the chance of Ukraine to keep up with Russia. But You lost it, when Ukraine didn’t keep it up. Last year people were positive and before the offensive the draft news wouldn’t be seen so negative as now. Now nobody wants to the front and the ones at the front are tired….It should be done like in Israel: 2y for women and 3y for men. It would help with the numbers game.
To be honest: the choice which age to mobilize is not so sound for me. the future are families where the parents are usually between 25 and 50. They are the most active workers and also experienced and many have good education and or job specialization. If You take these generations kids loose the parents and you loose the most productive part of the population. If You draft the 18-25 You have people mostly without families and mostly didn’t start or finish learning a job. So at this moment they are less productive and the calculation 6 citizens pay one soldier is then rather 3:1.
You play with people's lifes too easily.
Great reporting
I've just recently come across this decent program and now it's been 'paused.' Does anyone know why?
The Russians are closing in on the offices
It's a hard choice. The age thing is strange. We see athletes, boxers, MMA. There body drops about 35yo. Which is old for most🙏🤔
Why don’t they just require the women to be trained to take the civilian jobs? The ones that don’t work an essential job but can if trained. If they won’t draft from a pool of everyman. Why not 18 years old?
That’s a good idea. They should offer free daycare so all women can work regardless of whether they have children or not.
@@terjeoseberg990 Latchkey kids turned out ok too.
“Who’s going to protect the streets.”
Draft new police officers who aren’t corrupt. Then send the corrupt cops to the front lines.
This is an excellent, but scary, indication of just how serious the Ukrainian situation is. For those Ukrainian men in the country, they might reflect that if they are not prepared to fight now, once Russia takes over the country they will be FORCED to fight, whether they like it or not and with unbelievable indifference and barbarism. Far from being a brave person, I can totally sympathise with the fear of being called up, but believe me the thought of living under Russian tyranny would make me fight whatever it takes. What I find scandalous is the halt of further American aid because of Trump's evil influence, and the incompetence of the Europeans in providing the munitions required, or hesitation to supply the Taurus missile, despite the war being in its second year, thoughts which I can well understand is very demotivating for the soldiers and people on the ground. For those Ukrainian men living in Ukraine or abroad who can fight, I hope that they can summon up the courage to support Ukraine in its hour of greatest need. They will be fighting pure EVIL, a cause more than worthwhile, and meanwhile the American Congress and the Europeans need to get serious in their support of Ukraine.
Why the "pause"? When back up?
Do I have to post this over and over and over and over and over and over ad infinitum?
It's CONSCRIPTION not "mobilization".
Ukraine must win
With the power of friendship.
Stop smocking that shit .!,,,
@@srve1149 communist propagandist. murder and steal and demand friendship.
Why?
Ok, how? One must deal with reality not fantasy.
Denys Davdov talks a lot. He ran to Switzerland as fast as he could. He flies so his medical is fine!
Nobody wants an "excessively nervous" soldier at the front, but enriching oneself in another country is scarcely patriotic.
He's a experienced pilot who would be been very good by now in F-16. He paid for a medical exemption instead to talk
Ukraine should have already trained everyone in Ukraine from age 16 to 60 with 3 months of military training and an additional 2 weeks of every 4 months. They should all be in Ukraine’s reserves ready to be called up when needed.
Volunteers and recruits should come from this pool of recruits. They should already be confident soldiers.
They shouldn’t be demobilized. They should all become instructors so they can train the new recruits.
The best 10% of the soldiers should train the replacement army first, then they should be added to the remaining 90% for a month before the remaining 90% can become instructors.
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@@aar0n709, Is that your picture?
@@terjeoseberg990 Yup, Love SpongeBob, a lot better than the beggar Jew you have thrown your lot in with eh boy
impossible situation.
MAGICALLY VIA FOR PEACE PERIOD!
If you want peace, go talk to Putin. He can end this any time he wants.
Good discussion ana. Military facts, zero line requires 18-24 soldiers, they are only one out of nine soldiers in the army, the shooters. The other nine are supply, medics, artillery, air defense 25-60 soldiers can do it easily. General Zersky can figure this out. Ukrainians just needs to decide do we preserve the future generation or the current to keep the Ukraine yoou have now. Ana do you want your son to go to the zero line in 19 years, the average age of draftees in Vietnam.
If Ukraine doesn't have the men. It's better to be honest with a peace deal. People should vote how important Crimea is to them
People have left ukraine here in poland i see every day a lot of ukrainian men who dont want to fight for their country ukraine is done if its people dont care why should anynody else care? And btw they should draft women aswell
But but Zelensky said Ukraine only lost 31k soldiers🤷🏽♂️
what about wounded?
That was the confirmed KIA up to this year and didn't include wounded, missing, unidentified, POWs, rotated and all the rest not in the books. Also situation has deteriorated quite drastocally lately and frontline needs more soldiers now than ever before. Real numbers are still classified as it always were for a good reason. You won't really find out till the war is over.
@@dannydetonator Sure ... having a wet dream ?
The ones who wanted fight to up arms in March 2022 the men who just coming on 2 years later or the ones who didn’t want to fight. They easily would surrender at the front. Image a army of men who was force to go to battle
Then they lose their country and everything else
@@chrisconny2285most of them want to leave the country anyway
This has happened throughout history. Hundreds of years. People adapt
Easy to imagine, that is the fact in ruSSia.
Ukraine never stood a chance and sending men to be butchered doesn’t make any sense. Zelenskyy and the Kyiv government are IRRESPONSIBLE on this aspect.
Funny how Ukraine's jews don't need to worry about being drafted.
Are you really that stupid
The boss cant be drafted. 😂😂😂
@@chrisconny2285 Stupid, most likely. A racist and Putler supporter, for sure.
2 weeks, no new episode?! seems like they got bonked after this 😂😂
Where is billions of dollars of aid going? NATOs aim was to weaken Russia militarily,economically but the fact of the matter is russia has become militarily and economically more stronger than ever before. In addition to that in western medias ukraine is winning this war but watch the ground situation russia is winning this war no doubt about it,as russia has 20-30% land in its hands and they will try to move further inwards and we are seeing Ukraine's defence lines crumbling which will be easy for russians to capture more territory 👀🤔
Ukraine is finished 😭😭
Three days to take Kyiv right you subhuman fascist?
If you stand with Putin you don’t mind forfeiting your life 😂
@@MikeGoesBadaBoomAmerica bombing Iraq, Syria, Libya, Afghanistan in civilian areas is right and morality but Russia protecting its sovereignty is fascism,war crimes,such a hypocrite of highest order 👀🤔
Hurraaa 💪 💪 🇷🇺 🇷🇺 💪💪
A country lead by a clown/comedian that begs arms,ammo & money to pay salaries..smh..and citizems that dont want to fight for him.I wonder why😂😂😂
Stop saying bad things about Mr Putin, or I will report you to the thought police.
Ukraine needs to stop, too many people have died because of the leaders unwillingness to negotiate.
You can’t just put the onus on Ukraine russia can also stop this by sending their men home. They’ge also lost thousands upon thousands of Russian men for a war that they started. You can’t just put all on the responsibility on Ukraine they are defending themselves against an invasion and attack. Russia can also easily call of the invasion and send their troops home. They can also do that any moment so it’s unfair to pit all the onus on Ukraine
@@jorgeandrade783 Ukraine can't win, period. I dont understand why won't they cut their losses and try to negotiate with Russia, I mean i do understand that they have suffered far too many casualties to throw in the towel. People need to be realistic. No, Putin can't call off the invasion or he will be deposed the same day. The war will continue no matter who is in charge of Russia, only a comprehensive and acceptable, for both sides, peace deal can stop the war. If Ukraine fails to negotiate it risks having to deal with Russia alone, which will inevitably end in a complete disaster.
@@Mastercane98 Its amazing how politics can ignore reality
So he's deposed. Better than sacrificing thousands of his slaves just to keep his presidency.
impossible situation.