Tesla Valve Explained With Fire

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  • @Nighthawkinlight
    @Nighthawkinlight  4 роки тому +389

    Interested in seeing more lost technology? See my most recent video about recreating an ancient Japanese firework: ua-cam.com/video/yvoUYEu3o-c/v-deo.html

    • @subpoena.
      @subpoena. 4 роки тому +2

      very cool

    • @Hickeroar
      @Hickeroar 4 роки тому +9

      What's a practical use for the Tesla Valve? Are they in regular use anywhere today?

    • @RAW_Reality
      @RAW_Reality 4 роки тому +32

      @@Hickeroar This invention was never meant for typical "day to day" functions like that of use in hydraulics or other "pump"-like situations because it A) doesn't have a release, B) only is meant to directionalize flow, and C) won't prevent _ALL_ flow (of either direction). Also, it's not nearly as cost effective as the other forms of typical valve systems that exist, nor was it ever intended to be used as such. It pretty much only has a practical use in fluidics, which isn't what most people would even understand without a background in micro-engineering. It's effectively a diode, not a true "valve", as there are no flaps/points of full restriction, but typicallly most people don't care enough to fight for the name of "Tesla Diode" to the patent office.
      Also, it should be noted that this video does _not_ represent a "true" Tesla Valve's form, as the ports are misaligned, not at the correct internal depth, and the loop-backs aren't fully functioning as Nikola's design would have. Had they been a full "100%" replication, the gas flowing "back to front" through it likely wouldn't have traveled as far as it did. In Tesla's full design, restrictive force multiplies by a factor of 1.7x per rung, needing exponentially more force to travel further through.

    • @Hickeroar
      @Hickeroar 4 роки тому +2

      @@RAW_Reality Very cool! Thanks for the explanation.

    • @thecrazy8888
      @thecrazy8888 4 роки тому +4

      No I want to see the supersonic gas acceleration!

  • @kodman15323
    @kodman15323 4 роки тому +485

    with a title suffix like “explained with fire” it didn’t even matter what this video was about I was sold. In all seriousness that was an awesome video. Very interesting.

    • @johnkimble9965
      @johnkimble9965 Рік тому +8

      Yeah! More things should be explained with fire. 😊

    • @vusi5902
      @vusi5902 Рік тому +1

      Gotta love fire

    • @frozen1255
      @frozen1255 10 місяців тому

      Not a single word in the short

    • @Tom-yc8jv
      @Tom-yc8jv 6 місяців тому +1

      Maybe he can watch a video on how to pronounce "Valve" correctly, instead of "Velve"

  • @MonteFleming
    @MonteFleming 4 роки тому +3567

    There's a lot going on--I'd like to see it at a much higher framerate.

    • @petergoestohollywood382
      @petergoestohollywood382 4 роки тому +111

      Dial playback time of the footage to 1/4 and you’re good to go 👍

    • @realfoggy
      @realfoggy 4 роки тому +94

      Smartereveryday or slowmoguys

    • @jotaro4874
      @jotaro4874 4 роки тому +73

      @@realfoggy totally the slowmo guys, they are made for this job, while smarter every day could experiment on this

    • @pppsss5653
      @pppsss5653 4 роки тому +4

      @@petergoestohollywood382 Thank you Peter
      .. it is really a cool way of watching.

    • @whitewidowgaming4887
      @whitewidowgaming4887 4 роки тому +1

      @@realfoggy my first thought

  • @WPKaverage
    @WPKaverage 4 роки тому +5687

    I am stuck on him saying velve instead of valve.

  • @Sigrafix
    @Sigrafix 3 роки тому +43

    So where's the supersonic extended tesla valve? Let's see it!

  • @gog711
    @gog711 4 роки тому +190

    Hello, I am a physics teacher from Egypt.
    I am a huge fan of your work! I love how easily and effectively you explain these phenomena.
    Thank you sir.

    • @revimfadli4666
      @revimfadli4666 4 роки тому +5

      Wow do you use them to teach? I'd envy your students if so

    • @gog711
      @gog711 4 роки тому +9

      Revi M Fadli I try to use either real experiments or send them links to great UA-cam videos such as this one

    • @AC-hj9tv
      @AC-hj9tv 6 місяців тому +1

      Cool

  • @JonasNeumann6
    @JonasNeumann6 4 роки тому +630

    Use balloons and watch how fast they shrink when their air is released into the valve. Of course you would need to use an airtight adapter for accuracy

    • @HardCoreMore
      @HardCoreMore 4 роки тому +14

      That is awesome idea.

    • @presto709
      @presto709 4 роки тому +17

      That would be interesting but a different issue. Here is trying to illustrate HOW it works. The balloon test would show how well it works.

    • @matevarga3040
      @matevarga3040 4 роки тому +15

      @@presto709 Colored smoke inside the ballonne maybe?

    • @regal_7877
      @regal_7877 4 роки тому +3

      At first I thought this wouldn't work, but upon careful consideration it is a pretty good idea. Also this brings up some interesting applications and questions. If a proper setup is made (following your model), can this valve theoretically infinitely accelerate airflow?

    • @JustinNovack
      @JustinNovack 4 роки тому +9

      You spelled "velve" wrong.

  • @Mireaze
    @Mireaze 4 роки тому +2036

    Up next, explaining the human vascular system using fire

    • @maxzzzie
      @maxzzzie 4 роки тому +34

      Using taco bell i mean?

    • @samalbury9183
      @samalbury9183 4 роки тому +13

      @@maxzzzie vascular is veins and arteries

    • @maxzzzie
      @maxzzzie 4 роки тому +2

      @@samalbury9183 i didn't know. Just guessed xD

    • @rap6586
      @rap6586 4 роки тому +4

      ... using a real human vascular system

    • @IneptOrange
      @IneptOrange 4 роки тому +11

      God I hope someone injects napalm directly between my toes

  • @davenporttj13
    @davenporttj13 4 роки тому +58

    I would be interested to see what the differences are in comparison to just a straight pipe and either direction in this valve to really get a good idea of how much acceleration/deceleration is happening with each direction of travel in the valve.

    • @otakuryuga3221
      @otakuryuga3221 10 місяців тому

      Yes the speed is definitely different, I think both the size of pipe n amount of gas inputted will matter however I’m sure this one would definitely be faster because it has rapid increase meanwhile others will have constant increase.

  • @Raythe
    @Raythe 4 роки тому +1061

    Time to partner with the slow mo guys and smarter every day.

    • @jemmapellemma8185
      @jemmapellemma8185 4 роки тому +7

      YES please: this!

    • @nicholasmcatee4613
      @nicholasmcatee4613 4 роки тому +15

      I can guarantee Destin would love to do the expanded video with you. Potentially throwing some type of projectile at the end...Perhaps. I am thinking 12 foot long with a cork ball at the end.

    • @benschebella673
      @benschebella673 4 роки тому +1

      Nighthawk in slowmo every day

    • @EarlLee14
      @EarlLee14 4 роки тому

      EXACTLY WHAT I WAS THINKING!

    • @classified150
      @classified150 4 роки тому

      The three of them!

  • @potlach001
    @potlach001 4 роки тому +662

    I'd like to see how fast you can get the flames to go in a long one

    • @fat2slow
      @fat2slow 4 роки тому +12

      Like 1 that is 100 feet long. Also I''d like to see one with a Solid Fuel inside and see if that burns faster also.

    • @polygon2744
      @polygon2744 4 роки тому +18

      I wonder could you make a propane engine that uses these as valves both intake and exhaust. No moving parts would be amazing for engines. 2 stroke in this case.

    • @Saka_Mulia
      @Saka_Mulia 4 роки тому +10

      Or a circular one. Like a homemade flaming accelerator :D

    • @polygon2744
      @polygon2744 4 роки тому +1

      @@Saka_Mulia Amazing idea!

    • @keithyinger3326
      @keithyinger3326 4 роки тому +4

      I'd like to see that also. Then stick a ping pong ball in the exit end and see it it goes supersonic like they do with a vacuum cannon.

  • @josiahvonb3426
    @josiahvonb3426 4 роки тому +105

    I guess velve is the cool scientific way of saying valve.

    • @keirfarnum6811
      @keirfarnum6811 4 роки тому +1

      Josiah VonB
      I think it’s a Canuck thing, eh?

  • @kevinleugan6037
    @kevinleugan6037 4 роки тому +223

    Normal people who want to visualize gas: Use a colored gas.
    NHL: SET a colorless GAS ON FIRE
    looped comparison snippet at the end was lit!

    • @duddude321
      @duddude321 4 роки тому +18

      That pun was terrible and you should feel terrible. Have a Like.

  • @CMAllstars
    @CMAllstars 4 роки тому +652

    If you say “velve” one more time! I kid, this is the most entertaining demo of it that I’ve seen!

    • @michiganmitten1147
      @michiganmitten1147 4 роки тому +8

      This is how Michiganders say the word he lives in Michigan and I do too and this is how I speak

    • @CMAllstars
      @CMAllstars 4 роки тому +13

      Lolol. I can’t really talk. I live in Louisiana and we pronounce all sorts of words weird!

    • @yungstalin8936
      @yungstalin8936 4 роки тому +2

      Computer Music All-stars haha same I can go anywhere else outside Louisiana and they just somehow know I’m from there when I speak even though my accent is barely present

    • @JamieVegas
      @JamieVegas 4 роки тому

      Reminds me of my teacher who used to say "melk" instead of "milk."

    • @SushiKing123NorskGaming
      @SushiKing123NorskGaming 4 роки тому +4

      @@JamieVegas In Norway we actually say "melk"!

  • @Bigbuddyandblue
    @Bigbuddyandblue 4 роки тому +671

    I am very familiar with the “rapid passing of gas”

  • @Starbelt
    @Starbelt 4 роки тому +834

    I’m glad to learn about Tesla velves.

    • @dalelarson5274
      @dalelarson5274 4 роки тому +29

      I had to stop watching. Omg... Kinda want to slap him then buy him a beer and explain the correlation between proper pronunciation and OCD.

    • @victorwelkin9136
      @victorwelkin9136 4 роки тому +20

      Does nobody appreciate local accents?

    • @Simon-dm8zv
      @Simon-dm8zv 4 роки тому +2

      So how would you pronounce valve, Emilia?

    • @bodiless99
      @bodiless99 4 роки тому +8

      @@victorwelkin9136 what accent do you think that that is?

    • @splint077
      @splint077 4 роки тому +23

      🤣 I came to the comments to find this. Velve, velve, velve 🤣

  • @MajesticDiabetic
    @MajesticDiabetic 4 роки тому +274

    23 Timestamps for the "velve" lovers out there!
    0:21
    0:24
    0:29
    0:37
    0:49
    0:52
    1:05
    1:24
    1:31
    1:37
    1:43
    1:50
    1:59
    2:17
    2:53
    3:36
    4:22
    4:30
    4:42
    4:50
    4:57
    5:05
    5:16

  • @OFFtheCHIZANE
    @OFFtheCHIZANE 4 роки тому +384

    If I had to guess this guy’s age, I could narrow it down to somewhere between 16 and 40

    • @hedgehogmind3186
      @hedgehogmind3186 4 роки тому +6

      12 and 40

    • @dba_winchester7670
      @dba_winchester7670 4 роки тому +2

      @Sassy The Sasquatch I think they're talking about his round face. Round faces almost always reduce the look of age. With a beard he looks 30ish, without it, he would probably look 20ish. I used to be that way, then I lost weight XD

    • @mdc4runner
      @mdc4runner 4 роки тому +9

      I’m thinking closer to 16 based on his use of the phrase “passage of gas”

    • @jacobk.2706
      @jacobk.2706 4 роки тому

      You missed it by like 4 years.

    • @camofpv
      @camofpv 4 роки тому +2

      I’d guess 25-32

  • @RonakDhakan
    @RonakDhakan 4 роки тому +32

    High speed is not high enough and hence, the slow motion is not slow enough.

  • @matsudaindustries2530
    @matsudaindustries2530 4 роки тому +35

    Do it longer! That would be interesting

  • @zerstorer335
    @zerstorer335 4 роки тому +81

    When the flame is going in the "fast" route, it actually reminds me of the V3 cannon from WWII.
    That cannon worked by having propellant charges in side chambers along the barrel that were angled towards the muzzle and, as the projectile passed each pair of chambers, they'd ignite, giving additional force to the projectile.
    It seems the same could be happening, here. Each time the flame front passes by one of the teardrops, there's a secondary front that makes it's way around the rounded edge and then accelerates down the straightaway back into the main flow, but behind the main front, possibly adding more speed to it.

    • @thebobman69
      @thebobman69 2 роки тому +3

      V3 cannon from WWII
      Well spotted, i wonder how segments it would need to meet peak velocity.
      Also, probably incorrect, but if you could put a few small segments of this valve at the back of a regular gun, prior to a riffle, maybe you could have a more efficent combustion/faster bullet velocity,

    • @devenrobinson6861
      @devenrobinson6861 Рік тому +3

      @@thebobman69 in my head if you add too much length you would build up too much pressure in one of the tear drops and cause failure at some point in the valve. But I'm not engineering inclined.

    • @tecnezio7
      @tecnezio7 Рік тому +6

      this seems like the combustion equivalent of a coil gun

  • @AppliedScience
    @AppliedScience 4 роки тому +276

    Really great idea! Beautifully demonstrated and explained as well!

  • @n3v3rg01ngback
    @n3v3rg01ngback 4 роки тому +488

    “Is there anything propane cain’t do?”
    -Hank Hill

    • @airborne2876
      @airborne2876 4 роки тому +12

      Do I look like I know what a Tesla Valve is?!

    • @kofola9145
      @kofola9145 4 роки тому

      It cant kick your ass.

    • @kofola9145
      @kofola9145 4 роки тому

      @Gray Au Well, figuratively, but does it qualify literary?

    • @Cr1st0ph
      @Cr1st0ph 4 роки тому +3

      A good barbecue

    • @brucesweatman2146
      @brucesweatman2146 4 роки тому

      yeah, no pollution? it can never do that.

  • @takvacs
    @takvacs 4 роки тому +194

    I learned two things today.
    Valve is velve. Tesla valves exist.

    • @-NGC-6302-
      @-NGC-6302- 4 роки тому +8

      I can’t unhear it

    • @dogipug5646
      @dogipug5646 4 роки тому +3

      Actually no, it's "valv" in both american and british english.

    • @vicben1
      @vicben1 4 роки тому

      I'm glad I wasn't the only one!!! :)

    • @versag3776
      @versag3776 4 роки тому

      Thank you

    • @takvacs
      @takvacs 4 роки тому

      @@dogipug5646 sarcasm

  • @willo7734
    @willo7734 Рік тому +17

    That’s a really cool phenomenon! I wasn’t aware of Tesla valves before this but the concept makes sense. This makes me think that it’d be neat to rig up something with different powdered metals in each chamber. I’m envisioning different colored flames in each section of the valve. I don’t know how feasible that would be. Awesome video!

  • @rays5163
    @rays5163 4 роки тому +594

    Ah yes, the “chinese finger trap” of air valves.

    • @d6wave
      @d6wave 4 роки тому +2

      Nope .

    • @KingofJ95
      @KingofJ95 4 роки тому +43

      @@d6wave Thank you for contributing such a wonderfully informative comment.

    • @greenlawnfarm5827
      @greenlawnfarm5827 4 роки тому +10

      I think he is lying cause Teslas dont use gasoline. They have electric valves.

    • @d6wave
      @d6wave 4 роки тому +1

      Ok , theo .

    • @tyttuut
      @tyttuut 4 роки тому +11

      @@greenlawnfarm5827 No, they're belt driven. It's the pistons that are electric. Duh.

  • @-phenring-
    @-phenring- 4 роки тому +264

    I'd love to see this with smoke or colored mist

    • @sciencecompliance235
      @sciencecompliance235 4 роки тому +15

      Rachel Hoffmann Yeah, it would be nice to remove the nonlinearity that is combustion and just see pure flow.

    • @jorgecelis8459
      @jorgecelis8459 4 роки тому +7

      I would have been much instructive on the properties of the valve and more beautiful

    • @astroidyeti2169
      @astroidyeti2169 4 роки тому +4

      I agree I think smoke would have given a much better demonstration to show how the properties of this valve work.

    • @chaostactics
      @chaostactics 4 роки тому

      Rachel, great idea!

    • @lukecope4212
      @lukecope4212 4 роки тому +1

      That was my first thought, someone who vapes would be ideal for blowing through this with a giant puff

  • @Bigfoot_With_Internet_Access
    @Bigfoot_With_Internet_Access 4 роки тому +116

    What if you explained fire with fire

  • @regthebackyardjackofalltrades
    @regthebackyardjackofalltrades 3 роки тому +26

    Thanks for this. I’m thinking about making an intake for my compressor box. I’ve thought about baffles with foam but I think this would work better when adding a flow fan that will be either inside or on the exhaust. I’m in the thought phase and tons of other projects but I would like your opinion.

    • @brucearterbury1856
      @brucearterbury1856 9 місяців тому

      I’m wondering if “compressor box” is:
      A. The intake for a shop air compressor
      B. The intake for a automobile engine with a turbocharger or supercharger
      Btw I am wondering if automobile exhaust pipe performance would be enhanced?

  • @iamdarkyoshi
    @iamdarkyoshi 4 роки тому +81

    I'd like to see water mixed with a particulate like glitter being pumped through this valve. The flame demo was really visually interesting though

  • @zotzot5
    @zotzot5 4 роки тому +325

    "Velve"
    -NightHawkinLight (2019)

    • @michiganmitten1147
      @michiganmitten1147 4 роки тому +5

      Zot Fleischer This is how Michiganders say the word he lives in Michigan and I do too and this is how I speak

    • @tonnymalero6316
      @tonnymalero6316 4 роки тому +6

      Also popular: Nukelar, Aluminum, ............

    • @greenthizzle4
      @greenthizzle4 4 роки тому +6

      Michigan Mitten you speak wrong, pronounce the word as it's spelled or you sound like an idiot

    • @greenthizzle4
      @greenthizzle4 4 роки тому +5

      Tonny Malero aluminum is correct, aluminium is wrong

    • @tonnymalero6316
      @tonnymalero6316 4 роки тому

      @@greenthizzle4 I know :-P Murican language

  • @theCodyReeder
    @theCodyReeder 4 роки тому +25

    Nice!

  • @uniearesende
    @uniearesende Рік тому +5

    5:02 - Algorithm brought me back here and now I wanna see the supersonic version of this experiment!
    Your work is amazing, btw.

    • @pauls5745
      @pauls5745 4 місяці тому +1

      Yes, he never did come back this to do a super long Tesla valve. I've always hoped.

  • @LegendBegins
    @LegendBegins 4 роки тому +181

    NightHawkInLight: Check out this really cool gas effect with fire!
    Also NightHawkInLight: Oh man, I can make a gun out of this.

    • @ИванСнежков-з9й
      @ИванСнежков-з9й 4 роки тому +7

      Actually I was wondering how this design would work in a silencer. I guess they already do something similar.

    • @tykaboom0113
      @tykaboom0113 4 роки тому +2

      (Plasma cannon)

    • @ketsuekikumori9145
      @ketsuekikumori9145 4 роки тому +7

      @@ИванСнежков-з9й If you look up smarter every day silencer, Destin did a few slow mo shots of suppressors in action. I'm not an engineer but the idea is similar, the main difference, is that the first half of the tube is a big void and the second half is a "valve" setup. If I recall correctly, in the video, the suppressor company owner says that the reason for this half and half split is that you want to bleed as much of the energy of the gas as possible before it exits the gun and suppressor. The most effective way of doing that is just a giant void, but you would need extremely long/large tube to reach subsonic speeds. So they compromise, by have the gas work against itself in the second half. At the time, it was hard to tell how much that affected the gas without something like this in context.

    • @Nuovoswiss
      @Nuovoswiss 4 роки тому +1

      MURICA

    • @capman911
      @capman911 4 роки тому

      ​@@ИванСнежков-з9й I watched a similar video last year where the guy used water as a demonstration. Then it came to me on a suppressor design like this that would cancel out the noise of the gasses. But it would take a cnc machine to cut the parts out. Good thinking ​Иван Снежков.

  • @dl7394
    @dl7394 4 роки тому +867

    velve

    • @MrJUSTJONES205
      @MrJUSTJONES205 4 роки тому +9

      How to make a video to show how smart you are and mess it up with one word smh. It was annoying to hear

    • @skylark4901
      @skylark4901 4 роки тому +2

      Ha! I know right, that's foony

    • @tonyppe
      @tonyppe 4 роки тому +2

      Tesla velves

    • @Kori114
      @Kori114 4 роки тому +1

      Exactly! I was afraid I was the only one who noticed.

    • @sboloshis1188
      @sboloshis1188 4 роки тому +3

      He needs to try it with two types of liquid. Aquavelve-a and aquavelve-b

  • @keith_dixon
    @keith_dixon 4 роки тому +906

    Everytime he says velve my eyes cut to the title.

    • @Dresdentrumpet
      @Dresdentrumpet 4 роки тому +8

      I didn't hear it till I read this. Now I can't stop hearing it

    • @paparottzi
      @paparottzi 4 роки тому +11

      This... totally did it. Looking at the comments solely for this comment. Thanks for not disappointing.

    • @lllBAMlll
      @lllBAMlll 4 роки тому

      I keep hearing bell.

    • @flonker5961
      @flonker5961 4 роки тому

      @@Dresdentrumpet and you never will.

    • @eavyeavy2864
      @eavyeavy2864 4 роки тому

      Smartass.

  • @BeastOrGod
    @BeastOrGod 4 роки тому +292

    Talks perfectly normal, no sign of unique dialect... WHY "VELVE"

    • @DocKing87
      @DocKing87 4 роки тому +2

      Ghostly agreed

    • @legoking9079
      @legoking9079 4 роки тому +5

      i heard valve

    • @RecExistance11
      @RecExistance11 4 роки тому +1

      God I love nerdy youtube comments! perfect.

    • @hellcrow539
      @hellcrow539 4 роки тому

      My guess is Belgium's to blame. Only cause on one of his videos he shows a patent request or paper showing from Royaume de Belgique.

    • @Bartooc
      @Bartooc 4 роки тому

      "My way of spelling the word is the only valid way. No one else can spell it differently."

  • @SerratedPVP
    @SerratedPVP 4 роки тому +224

    Imagine what a car exhaust would sound like with this.

    • @bruzote
      @bruzote 4 роки тому +16

      It depends on the direction it was installed!

    • @krazytroutcatcher
      @krazytroutcatcher 4 роки тому +16

      bruzote Yes, you need some back pressure, just not that much.
      I wonder what would happen if you run a high volume compressed air line the wrong way through the valve?
      🗯🗯🗯🗯🗯🗯

    • @anon_ninja
      @anon_ninja 4 роки тому +1

      Where would you need this? Or why?

    • @sukubann
      @sukubann 4 роки тому

      u mean like tesla?

    • @R3848
      @R3848 4 роки тому +15

      It will go "Wooo-WOOOO"

  • @BryanIrvine
    @BryanIrvine 4 роки тому +147

    make another one and connect them backwards so the flow changes.

    • @OlavLadnav
      @OlavLadnav 4 роки тому +11

      Is that legal?

    • @jeffb6276
      @jeffb6276 4 роки тому +3

      *BOOM*

    • @cw4608
      @cw4608 4 роки тому +1

      That is a perfect comment

    • @jcur7816
      @jcur7816 4 роки тому +3

      How to create an explosion 101

    • @evilovesperry
      @evilovesperry 4 роки тому +1

      Wait. If you do that and have a battery/conversion unit in the middle couldn't you have a damn near infinite propulsion engine? If the increase in speed results in a gain of kinetic energy meaning a surplus which can fuel the combustion process and still have the energy to fuel a battery/ capacitor

  • @TrollFaceTheMan
    @TrollFaceTheMan 4 роки тому +65

    Fascinating, never heard of something like this. But makes sense.

  • @justintimeleave1360
    @justintimeleave1360 4 роки тому +28

    This looks like some runic magic but is really simple once explained.

  • @michaelscott-joynt3215
    @michaelscott-joynt3215 4 роки тому +660

    Everyone out here obsessing over "velve" like they've never heard of dialects while all I could think of is supersonic flamethrowers by using this kind of velve.

    • @joshuadalton6063
      @joshuadalton6063 4 роки тому +37

      Don't you mean suparsonic flemthrewors?

    • @Eddy1A1
      @Eddy1A1 4 роки тому +10

      Well ... technically speaking, the idea of this valve is to restrict the gas flow from a direction rather than accelerate it from the another. For a flamethrower, a straight pipe might be better in terms of gas speed after it's lit up.
      It's just my guess, correct me if I'm wrong.

    • @jamesfair9751
      @jamesfair9751 4 роки тому +5

      VertUnix straight pipe getting more narrow as you get closer to the fire end.

    • @NoName-zn1sb
      @NoName-zn1sb 4 роки тому

      Flammenwerfer!

    • @NoName-zn1sb
      @NoName-zn1sb 4 роки тому

      @David Robinson !!!

  • @Mr.Engineer.
    @Mr.Engineer. 4 роки тому +370

    Some one have probably already meantion this fact, so here it probably goes again:
    In my study on fire and explosion saftey I learned that the flame front in a combustable gas mix will accelerate over a distance. The fun thing is that turbulence in the flame front will make the burn accelerate even faster and that is what you see happens. At one point it will reach a critical speed where the flame front is faster than the speed of sound in the medium/gas mix and the flame front will get a sudden increase in speed. This causes even more turbulence and even further accelerate the flame speed.
    The transition between subsonic and supersonic flame speed the flame goes from deflagration to detonation. Simply put, you go from a burning flame to an explosion 😀
    So you do not need more tesla valves, you just need more stuff inn there with sharp edges to create turbulence and a longer tube. Try it out with a long plexi tube and you will get the same results. One empty and one with a lot of obstacles.
    This is one of the reasons why a gas explosion is so much more dangerous in a confined space with a lot of stuff/obstacles than out in the open.
    Been a few years since I studied this topic, so correct me if I remembered it incorrectly.
    -The random UA-cam mechanical engineer 🤘

    • @saatie
      @saatie 4 роки тому +18

      now that is some real brainfood

    • @awildfilingcabinet6239
      @awildfilingcabinet6239 4 роки тому +8

      So you’re saying the more things in the way, the faster it goes? That’s interesting

    • @Mr.Engineer.
      @Mr.Engineer. 4 роки тому +14

      Not exactly, you do not want to obstruct the flame so much that it can't continue, but yeah, the more turbulence you can create in the gas mix the faster the flame will burn.
      Objects with hard corners will do this as the burning flame front will push on the gas mix infront of it, speeding it up and thereby creating turbulence when the accelerating gas mix hits the objects and disrupt its flow. But it is the turbulence that is the key, so you are free to introduce it into the system however you like.

    • @Mr.Engineer.
      @Mr.Engineer. 4 роки тому +2

      Filing cabinets hanging from the roof in a 40 feet container filled with hydrogen and oxygen gas mix would make an perfect example! 👌

    • @davidk7529
      @davidk7529 4 роки тому +4

      Yeah the assertion toward the end that the valve actually facilitates acceleration is simply false, showing that the guy didn't bother to learn physics thoroughly before making youtube videos.

  • @johnnyj540
    @johnnyj540 4 роки тому +35

    Tesla had one hell of an imagination.

  • @llewellynpatrick160
    @llewellynpatrick160 4 роки тому +17

    Thanks Ben - a first-class demo. It impressed me so much that when I needed a special respirator valve I remembered it and used a modified version. Great job.

  • @Donteatacowman
    @Donteatacowman 4 роки тому +193

    You explained this, and I'm like "Oh, that makes sense." And then you're like "But you can't picture that unless I set it on fire" and I am okay with that too, since this is the video I chose to click on

    • @Jedidiah_Martin_2
      @Jedidiah_Martin_2 4 роки тому +1

      Mheheheh heheheheheh heheheh mheheheh fire is cool mheheheheheheh heheheh mheheh heheheheh

  • @jakeyaboi6824
    @jakeyaboi6824 4 роки тому +283

    A fire front is different than a moving gas. This doesn’t show the way propane moves through the valve. It just shows the flames progressing.

    • @somestuffithoughtyoumightl6985
      @somestuffithoughtyoumightl6985 4 роки тому +7

      So he should have used liquid?

    • @Headlock123456789
      @Headlock123456789 4 роки тому +25

      Trace Trace He probably should have used steam or something like that. It still gives a good idea of how it works though.

    • @williambarnes5023
      @williambarnes5023 4 роки тому +51

      He should have blown colored smoke through it.

    • @freebordwerm
      @freebordwerm 4 роки тому +25

      Only reason I scrolled through the comments was to see if someone had already mentioned this. Looks good but does not show the valve functioning at all.

    • @davidlong3359
      @davidlong3359 4 роки тому +7

      I think you meant velve.

  • @jkanclark
    @jkanclark 4 роки тому +66

    Is a flame-front really a good analogue for the gas’ movement?

    • @komack1
      @komack1 4 роки тому +21

      No, I don't think so because the Tesla valve operates from disippating kinetic energy from a flow. A flame front is mostly independent of gas dynamic effects in this case. It sure does look pretty though

    • @Pupsi
      @Pupsi 4 роки тому

      It's honestly not. Water with glitter or colouring would do much better. Also doing this in a much smaller scale might exaggerate the effects.

    • @ohctascooby2
      @ohctascooby2 4 роки тому +1

      no gas movement and flame front are two different things.

    • @NoName5589
      @NoName5589 4 роки тому

      But is still clearly shows the effect the valve has does it not?

    • @Pupsi
      @Pupsi 4 роки тому +1

      @@NoName5589 The gas is expanding at a really high rate. It's literally spewing stuff backwards. There's no constant pressure from the inlet. The valve is based on momentum and friction affecting the flow from the inlet. There's no flow. It's equivalent to demonstrating the flow of a river with a burning fuse. There's no momentum in a burning fuse. There can't be resistance of momentum to the burning of a fuse. A boat on water?.... How can we demonstrate the friction of water on boats? Let's move a boat with EXPLOSIONS! YEAH!

  • @PlayNowWorkLater
    @PlayNowWorkLater Рік тому +17

    Very cool video. You should definitely try a longer version to see how fast you can get the flame traveling. Also, would be great to see it in even slower slow motion. Maybe a collaboration with the Slo Mo Guys?

  • @mshayenj875
    @mshayenj875 4 роки тому +134

    I love how this channel has extremely educated followers.

    • @JJRossi
      @JJRossi 4 роки тому

      Agreed

    • @mrljones01
      @mrljones01 4 роки тому +2

      Mshayen J Then there’s me
      confused by all the comments

    • @redcastlefan
      @redcastlefan 4 роки тому +2

      Well like minds think alike. This happens to me on twitch in particular Where after joining a community for a while, I start noticing people from that community in multiple other communities I'm part of. It almost feels like they're stalking me.

    • @Bigloserbox
      @Bigloserbox 4 роки тому +5

      Ooga booga i eat glue

    • @kevinjohnson7300
      @kevinjohnson7300 4 роки тому +1

      I read this comment and the comment directly below it talks about how he got a nerdboner when someone said supersonic speed

  • @maxzzzie
    @maxzzzie 4 роки тому +201

    Show it with blowing smoke in there. Just like a smoke machine or something. Im curious now.

    • @mlk4life
      @mlk4life 4 роки тому +17

      smoke would have been a better demonstration.

    • @gordybishop2375
      @gordybishop2375 4 роки тому +3

      Or tilt it up right and used sand...lol

    • @LudyLoomy
      @LudyLoomy 4 роки тому +3

      Yeah my immediate thoughts too, idk how fire and propane was the first thing this guy thought of.

    • @mehmetmalli
      @mehmetmalli 4 роки тому +2

      Joshua Freeman His last video could be the reason, as he says in this video

    • @brokenwishbone422
      @brokenwishbone422 4 роки тому +7

      The gases that would be used in this "valve" are heavier than air and smoke is lighter. It could be a significant difference in result but it would still be interesting.

  • @suit1337
    @suit1337 4 роки тому +162

    Everybody: just use a liquid with particles like glitter in it to visualize the valve
    NightHawkInLight: there is no other way to show it than using propane and ignite it :D

    • @RR-uc1wb
      @RR-uc1wb 4 роки тому +3

      Destructive minds come up with explosive actions.

    • @DehimVerveen
      @DehimVerveen 4 роки тому +3

      Or run a model in a CFD program

    • @thenaylor
      @thenaylor 4 роки тому +6

      Or use smoke?

    • @jotaro4874
      @jotaro4874 4 роки тому +1

      @@thenaylor it would work, but I prefer explosion

    • @conorstewart2214
      @conorstewart2214 4 роки тому +2

      @@DehimVerveen A program only uses models of how it thinks air should behave, the knowledge and formulas have to be known before CFD software can even be created, this is a much more reliable and concrete way of proving that it works rather than a computer doing what may or may not be the correct equations

  • @professordanfurmanek3732
    @professordanfurmanek3732 Рік тому +17

    Retired University Physics Professor: Where I still teaching, this would be required viewing for every student! These valves have been known about for a long time but I've never seen them explained any better! Kudos on a job well done!

    • @MCphattyStoolz
      @MCphattyStoolz Рік тому

      Hey "professor", it's WERE

    • @michaeladolf628
      @michaeladolf628 Рік тому

      @@MCphattyStoolz I knew that's what the one comment was going to be. lol. Dan Furmanek worked at the University of Buffalo... as an Adjunct Professor... so... position and grammar = non-essential

    • @gargoyleb
      @gargoyleb 7 місяців тому

      Could something like this be applied to accelerate ions?

  • @John-ye9oc
    @John-ye9oc 4 роки тому +45

    Wouldn't using a colored smoke be more accurate? It seems to me that this is just a test of the ignition acceleration of the propane rather than of the speed of the gas through the valve.

    • @David-bc4rh
      @David-bc4rh 4 роки тому +4

      Yes this is pulsed ignition acceleration. If we want to test out a sustained flow, i think it would be harder to see the acceleration. I wonder if the acceleration is only achieved with the continuous ignition.

    • @Solnoric
      @Solnoric 4 роки тому +2

      Well, that flame front is drawing air from the ignition side, which is why it travels like it does. Flames in tubes like this create a suction at the ignition point. Not a strong one but a distinct one.

    • @David-bc4rh
      @David-bc4rh 4 роки тому +2

      ​@@Solnoric Lower pressure/higher velocity is the hallmark of the Venturi Effect. So the flame is lowering the pressure inside the valve behind the flame more and more the further it travels.

  • @coyotedomino
    @coyotedomino 4 роки тому +108

    i just heard about Tesla valves a month or so ago and this such a freaking _cool_ demonstration. i love this

    • @mdrzn
      @mdrzn 4 роки тому +5

      This needs a collaboration with the Slow Mo Guys to see it better.

    • @LifeIsntHealthy
      @LifeIsntHealthy 4 роки тому

      @@mdrzn I was just thinking this!

    • @greenthizzle4
      @greenthizzle4 4 роки тому

      This valve was meant to be a flashback arrestor for hydrogen.. in the video he didn't make the buckets curve back into themselves enough though

  • @alten2122
    @alten2122 4 роки тому +56

    Makes me wonder if you had a Tesla valve that reduced the radius of the openings in the flowing direction if it could behave like a rocket engine.

    • @mduckernz
      @mduckernz 4 роки тому +8

      Yes but it wouldn't become more effective with more "nodes" (the switchback sections) as you will get choked (sonic) flow from just one de Laval nozzle (a constrictive section where it narrows followed by a expansion section)
      I would pair a bunch of these nodes in the same way we has here BUT with the final one having a constrictive and then expansive section. That way the final one may achieve supersonic flow
      You're essentially using the flow restrictive properties of the valve as a kind of virtual combustion chamber - it's not a solid wall, as with a real chamber, but acts like a semi permeable one.

    • @benjaminmiller3620
      @benjaminmiller3620 4 роки тому +7

      So: A Pulse Jet engine? I've seen a telsa valve on a pulsejet before, but it didn't seen as efficient as a regular valve.

    • @baneblackguard584
      @baneblackguard584 4 роки тому +5

      ​@@benjaminmiller3620 i would like to see some experiments along these lines.

    • @greenthizzle4
      @greenthizzle4 4 роки тому +1

      Benjamin Miller the one you seen was mr teslonian and he didn't really make it with a proper valve

  • @MaskinJunior
    @MaskinJunior 4 роки тому +21

    It may be possible to utilize this to make a primitive pulse jet engine.

    • @steammachine3061
      @steammachine3061 4 роки тому +2

      Lol i was scanning through the comments to see if someone else had the same idea i just posted. I think it would be a bit more advanced than a standard pulse jet. And a lot more efficient as well

    • @huseyinuguralacatli5064
      @huseyinuguralacatli5064 4 роки тому

      I came from drawing pulse jet projects too

    • @wolfsbanerain6385
      @wolfsbanerain6385 4 роки тому +1

      Oddly enough that was what Tesla originally designed them for, to be used in a pulse jet engine to power his generator that he designed. He designed them for the Pulse Jet engine since the one way valves they normally used used moving parts and simply broke to quickly to be used efficiently when attached to a generator, even Teslas very efficient design. The youtuber Integza has some amazing videos discussing alot of these ideas and even putting them all together and testing them, as well as showing the original patents and improved designs and I highly suggest looking into his videos if youd like to learn more about these things

    • @pedrosabino8751
      @pedrosabino8751 4 роки тому

      I would prefer use the conventional valves

  • @bananajones9396
    @bananajones9396 4 роки тому +85

    I would be interested in seeing smoke pass through the valve

    • @RebelDude989
      @RebelDude989 4 роки тому +6

      it would make more sense that way.. have smoke and a vacuum

    • @BenDover-kk3xz
      @BenDover-kk3xz 4 роки тому +2

      I want to smoke out of it

  • @Technicallyaddicted
    @Technicallyaddicted 4 роки тому +214

    The phrase: "accelerate combustion to near supersonic speeds" gave me a nerdboner.

    • @franciscoguinledebarros4429
      @franciscoguinledebarros4429 4 роки тому +14

      Find a way to put a projectile and you'll have a gas railgun

    • @dr.froghopper6711
      @dr.froghopper6711 4 роки тому

      I’m thinking rocket launcher.

    • @santiagoperez2094
      @santiagoperez2094 4 роки тому

      @@franciscoguinledebarros4429 even ww2 cannons where supersonic

    • @franciscoguinledebarros4429
      @franciscoguinledebarros4429 4 роки тому

      @@santiagoperez2094 yeh but im talking faster

    • @jeremybrouillard
      @jeremybrouillard 4 роки тому +1

      In fact it's a rail gun without any complex electronic or control.
      If it works, it's the simplest version of a "rail gun" you would've ever seen.

  • @UnlucksMcGee
    @UnlucksMcGee 4 роки тому +40

    Would've been nice to have a simple straight tube as a comparison to this valve.

    • @commonnons3ns316
      @commonnons3ns316 4 роки тому

      No it wouldn't. A straight tube isn't a valve. It would be pointless. The demonstration was to show how the Tesla valve works by directional flow. An open flow or unrestricted flow, would be an uncontrolled flow. Valves are meant to control flow in one direction or another and/or increase or decrease pressure or volume of a fluid or gas in a conduit and/or a collection tank. An open conduit or vessel, simply allow a liquid or gas to flow freely and only be controlled by gravity or surrounding atmosphere. In other words... There is no comparison to be made unless your demonstration is on how a valve works in general. This demonstration is being made under the assumption that you already have basic knowledge of what valves are and what valves do.

    • @kreynolds1123
      @kreynolds1123 4 роки тому +20

      @@commonnons3ns316 not pointless. It would serve as a control to contrast with.

    • @DreadX10
      @DreadX10 4 роки тому +8

      @@commonnons3ns316 You just tried to convince the world that zero is useless as a number because it doesn't have a value (it contains nothing).
      The straight pipe flow would be interesting because of the acceleration of the flame-front by expansion of the burned gas compared to the somewhat constricted Tesla-valve.

    • @theGreaterAwareness
      @theGreaterAwareness 4 роки тому +1

      Yeah, a straight pipe would be awesome! it would be like having two cars race each other and then in another split screen we have a tub of fried chicken just so we know what the base level of context is....

    • @NuclearHeadshot
      @NuclearHeadshot 4 роки тому +1

      @@DreadX10 0 IS a value, null has no value.

  • @WeeabooShipPoster
    @WeeabooShipPoster 4 роки тому +13

    mechanically turning a combustion into an explosion sounds like future science

  • @-NGC-6302-
    @-NGC-6302- 4 роки тому +35

    That's pretty interesting.
    I wonder how much of an impact it would have to make a tesla valve shape out of a tesla valve, like a fractal. hmm...

    • @garystat
      @garystat 4 роки тому +1

      Triamcinolone Acetonide One can imagine a logarithmic increase in the differential flow. Hmm

    • @yizelindbizle
      @yizelindbizle 4 роки тому

      Damn you! Now I need to know.

    • @benblank609
      @benblank609 4 роки тому +4

      It may help to have smaller Tesla valves in the main path, but a big reason it works like it does is because of the flow around the branches. If you were to put smaller branches inside the larger branches I have a feeling it would hinder the performance.
      Then again, the whole concept of the Tesla valve is pretty counterintuitive, so it's hard to say. I'd probably watch a video where somebody tried it.

  • @qyuburt2796
    @qyuburt2796 4 роки тому +160

    noone:
    this man: **velv**

    • @KiemPlant
      @KiemPlant 4 роки тому +3

      No one: **original comment**
      Everyone: *No one: ""*

    • @BinaryBunyip
      @BinaryBunyip 4 роки тому

      noone:
      Elon Musk: I own that name now. Ha ha ha, rockets. Ha ha ha, tee hee.

    • @smittywerbenjagermanjensen1051
      @smittywerbenjagermanjensen1051 4 роки тому

      I stopped watching because I couldn't take the pronunciation any more.

    • @BinaryBunyip
      @BinaryBunyip 4 роки тому

      @@smittywerbenjagermanjensen1051 weak, haha

  • @skulengu6854
    @skulengu6854 4 роки тому +167

    I had seen the Tesla valve in one of his (Nikola Tesla's) drawings. While it is fairly easy to comprehend, it is so incredible to watch it in action. I would have never even thought about the fact that the flame front would accelerate in the opposite direction. I had been so focused on the fact that it would arrest the passage when trying to run backwards, that I didn't even think about it. He was operating on another plane of consciousness, to say the least. This was such a simple but elegant way to demonstrate his valve. It was thrilling for a mechanical/science nerd like myself to actually watch this demonstration.
    It reminded me of watching a feather fall like a rock inside of a vacuum chamber. It is so much better to witness than it is to read about. Thank you so much.

    • @shanerountree3623
      @shanerountree3623 4 роки тому +3

      I agree, this is the best visual example of how the Tesla Valve works that I've seen yet

    • @emissarygw2264
      @emissarygw2264 4 роки тому +10

      @@shanerountree3623 quick notes: as the video observes, using a combusting gas causes expansion/acceleration inside the valve, which causes this visual to be a bit misleading. Second, the fact that he's using a short pulse of gas rather than a steady stream means there is no positive pressure preventing the massive back flow that we see. I suspect we would see something quite different with smoke and an air pump. I would also be really curious if we would see some periodic resonance in the flow at steady state or if it would just be random chaotic turbulent flow.

    • @shanerountree3623
      @shanerountree3623 4 роки тому

      @@emissarygw2264 very true, I should clarify that this example reallyshows how the flow acts in the valve in an cool visual manner.

    • @demonsluger
      @demonsluger 4 роки тому

      School should let ppl experiment more not just read and write.

    • @inventgineer
      @inventgineer 4 роки тому

      Tesla Velve* lol

  • @mikeboyd79
    @mikeboyd79 4 роки тому +10

    This is extremely cool, I would love to see you do more with the sped up flamefront in the Tesla valve, like maybe create an extremely long one and see just how fast you can accelerate the flamefront

  • @fabiofdez
    @fabiofdez 4 роки тому +189

    Everyone in the comments: velve

    • @a_green_cat
      @a_green_cat 4 роки тому +2

      Fabio Fernandez i know 😂 *velve* , it's so strange and I love it

    • @PovidisII
      @PovidisII 4 роки тому +2

      *_V E L V E_*

    • @jaminoes_
      @jaminoes_ 4 роки тому +1

      I thought I was hearing this. I had to pause several times. "vehlve"

    • @lajoswinkler
      @lajoswinkler 4 роки тому

      @@PovidisII You know, it *doesn't mean anything* when you separate the letters like that.

    • @PovidisII
      @PovidisII 4 роки тому

      @@lajoswinkler ikr...

  • @vibeuel
    @vibeuel 4 роки тому +153

    I loved when you said,”it’s actually louder” because in a way this is exactly how a ruffle suppressor works. The gases released by the combustion of the power is what’s causing most of the noise other than the projectile making its own dispersion of the air around it. A suppressor is kind of like a bunch of holes and stuff with a path for the bullet and so when the expanding gases exit the barrel they are slowed down by their own turbulent way of moving around and so the effectiveness just comes down to what design helps me release the pressure slow enough so suppress the noise but not decreasing velocity or compromising the unit

    • @jotaro4874
      @jotaro4874 4 роки тому +5

      Maybe very small modified version of this valve could act as a suppressor

    • @aprilbehling498
      @aprilbehling498 4 роки тому +1

      @@jotaro4874 my thoughts exactlt

    • @omgz8876
      @omgz8876 4 роки тому

      Sound is a relativity thing governed by particle state, in aircraft design its also there for the combustion, supersonic & hyper-sonic combustion.
      So everything you're hearing, which can be considered as loud from gun fire, is probably breaking the sound barrier including the combustion of the ammunitions fuel. eg; gunpowder combustion velocity and projectile velocity.
      Pressure and Temperature will also make a difference.
      Particle state is everything, up to and including charged particles traveling instantaneously (faster than light) around a pulsar star creating superluminal booms in an electron blue color via a vacuum known as the quantum vacuum. (pulsar emissions consist of Cherenkov radiation)

    • @CHOPERUS23
      @CHOPERUS23 4 роки тому +1

      Actually most of the noise from a rifle bullet is down to the bullet travelling supersonic. Hence why silencers work better on subsonic ammunition.

    • @omgz8876
      @omgz8876 4 роки тому +1

      @@CHOPERUS23 ^^^^^^^THIS GUY^^^^^^

  • @akashmukherjee2405
    @akashmukherjee2405 4 роки тому +45

    As from my class notes, I remember that the internal edges of the Tesla valves should be a little bit steeper. You can try that and see what's gonna happen
    Edit: sharper

  • @artisan002
    @artisan002 2 роки тому +10

    Every time I look at this, I wonder how well it might apply to exhaust and intake systems on cars.

    • @906MediaProductions
      @906MediaProductions 11 місяців тому

      It might increase scavenging by a lot, since exhaust gasses are also still expanding when they pass the exhaust valve.
      Interesting...

    • @artisan002
      @artisan002 11 місяців тому

      @@906MediaProductions Ah! I hadn't considered that at all. My primary thought was accelerating the expulsion of exhaust, since we want it gone in a hurry. It might also tamper with catalytic converter performance, which hadn't dawned on me until you commented. If nothing else, it might make for a slightly boosted intake system, maybe approaching the level of a cold air intake system. I wonder if anyone has even tested the notion.

  • @RobB-vz2vo
    @RobB-vz2vo 4 роки тому +34

    It would be interesting to see water flow through this.

    • @atartup
      @atartup 4 роки тому +1

      I would as well

    • @WatsitTooyah
      @WatsitTooyah 4 роки тому +4

      @@atartup I'm inspired to give this a try with blender. The mantaflow engine can simulate smoke, fire and liquid through this geometry.

    • @Amin.Ashraf
      @Amin.Ashraf 4 роки тому

      The valve could be more effective on a denser fluid.

    • @Doughy_in_the_Middle
      @Doughy_in_the_Middle 4 роки тому

      This was my thought too. What kind of water pressure increase would occur similar to the combustion pressure.
      Next video!!!

    • @Christian-cz9bu
      @Christian-cz9bu 4 роки тому

      A collab with Practical Engineering is in order.

  • @TechIngredients
    @TechIngredients 4 роки тому +51

    Hey, really nice visual presentation!
    I believe, just like in a pulse jet engine, the sub atmospheric pressure in the wake of the mainline flow accelerates the return loop flow. I agree with your prediction on burn acceleration to supersonic speeds. Pulse detonation engines use flow restriction coils called a Shchelkin spiral to transition from a simple combustion to detonation.

    • @Nighthawkinlight
      @Nighthawkinlight  4 роки тому +12

      Wow, I did not know about Shchelkin spirals. I'll be looking into those quite a bit. Thank you!

    • @PhilbyFavourites
      @PhilbyFavourites 4 роки тому +4

      Now that is a clever guy. UA-cam isn’t all bad after all!

  • @zarodgaming1844
    @zarodgaming1844 4 роки тому +76

    "So i had the idea of filling it with propane ..."
    *"Everyone, GET DOWN!"*
    my brain when he said that xD

  • @thomgt4
    @thomgt4 4 роки тому +9

    The engineer in me likes this because of the elegant design, the simple human in me likes this because fire

  •  4 роки тому +68

    Two things to mention:
    - schlieren imaging
    - tesla rocket motors

    • @asdfasdf71865
      @asdfasdf71865 4 роки тому +1

      I am not sure if tesla rocket motor could ever be light enough for flying.

    •  4 роки тому +5

      @@asdfasdf71865 what?
      I meant, instead of turbines, a tesla valve could be used as a burn chamber.

    • @Methoverbitches
      @Methoverbitches 4 роки тому +8

      Maybe as a vacuum optimized engine.
      But I’d go watch everyday astronauts video on areospikes. A bell nozzle engine is about as good as you can get. Especially the raptor full closed loop.

    • @asdfasdf71865
      @asdfasdf71865 4 роки тому +1

      Aerospike engine came to my mind also. Just forgot the word.

    • @Sgt.Hartman
      @Sgt.Hartman 4 роки тому

      @@Methoverbitches but imagine a rocket engine with no moving parts. You could also use it to make extremely small engines, saving literally tons of weight.

  • @JerrodFuller
    @JerrodFuller 4 роки тому +172

    I am going to re-upload this video with the title "Edison Valve Explained With Fire"
    .
    .
    .
    (That was an obvious attempt at a joke and should not be taken seriously)

    • @4jones82
      @4jones82 4 роки тому +10

      As long as they don't do one where they kill elephants to see how dangerous it is. Lol

    • @dustinerickson1253
      @dustinerickson1253 4 роки тому +3

      hahaha.. might want to make sure its profitable first.

    • @RSChris666
      @RSChris666 4 роки тому

      @@4jones82 I thought it was a cow?

    • @dustinerickson1253
      @dustinerickson1253 4 роки тому +1

      @@RSChris666 nope, elephant

  • @ayemjake
    @ayemjake 4 роки тому +236

    It's like Petyr Baelish and Shia Labeouf had a son and learned science

    • @inventgineer
      @inventgineer 4 роки тому +1

      Lmao, too accurate; hit me with the lulz outta nowhere there; well played, sir.

    • @Doriamo
      @Doriamo 4 роки тому

      Spot on haha

    • @grimecritic6511
      @grimecritic6511 4 роки тому

      Then forgot how to speak English and pronounced simple words like valve completely wrong ☠️

    • @RaritiesInc.
      @RaritiesInc. 4 роки тому +6

      i was thinking Ted Cruz on the dot since he also grew his beard out, possibly to throw off speculation that he is in fact the Zodiac Killer

    • @tabchanzero8229
      @tabchanzero8229 4 роки тому

      I'm thinking of a less sarcastic and less eccentric Wil Wheaton. But I'll have to see his d20 rolls first.

  • @hamarana
    @hamarana 4 роки тому +72

    Let me be redundant here: Tesla was a genius!

    • @wantedwanted3186
      @wantedwanted3186 4 роки тому +1

      yeah he was.how electricity transmitted our house,it was his idea

    • @christopherbraud
      @christopherbraud 4 роки тому +4

      That is more like an understatement, he was a mega-ultra genius.

    • @Roonnam
      @Roonnam 4 роки тому +1

      And a Filantroop.. its like he baked the cake and we are playing with the crumbs..

    • @birbies
      @birbies 4 роки тому

      @@wantedwanted3186 that was never possible and never worked well

    • @geethanjalibalaji5232
      @geethanjalibalaji5232 3 роки тому

      Not just genius ...He was extremely hardworking and we are enjoying hus benefits

  • @AlejandroBelloRD
    @AlejandroBelloRD 4 роки тому +163

    The real Tesla was a gifted genius.

    • @gappuma7883
      @gappuma7883 4 роки тому +7

      Alejandro Bello no shit Einstein

    • @mast3rNate
      @mast3rNate 4 роки тому +4

      podak10 someone is having a tough life

    • @gappuma7883
      @gappuma7883 4 роки тому +5

      Nathaniel Zamora or someone can’t get a joke

    • @Rpearce79
      @Rpearce79 4 роки тому +15

      Versus the fake tesla?

    • @mast3rNate
      @mast3rNate 4 роки тому

      podak10 i just don’t see the humor lmao.

  • @weaponologist1121
    @weaponologist1121 4 роки тому +57

    Hey so this happens to be something that is quite interesting in the combustion world. Flame acceleration is caused by a few things but a common thought is that turbulence and flame instabilities are driving forces in flame acceleration. As you wrinkle a flame it gets more surface area, which in turn increases the heat release rate, thus making the flame go faster. You can in fact accelerate a flame to very high speeds possibly even supersonic speeds. An interesting phenomenon is whats called Deflagration to Detonation Transition (DDT) where an accelerating flame can form into a detonation wave under the correct conditions. Its still not fully understood but definitely something interesting to look into. Thanks for making this video! A lot of interesting physics going on here.

    • @preciousplasticph
      @preciousplasticph 4 роки тому +2

      so.. here is a additional twist... I used this same idea on a potato cannon. I was driving marble potato to speeds high enough to punch thru 1/2 inch plywood. But what if this was combined with the tesla valve to make a improved pulse jet?

    • @DreadX10
      @DreadX10 4 роки тому +1

      @@preciousplasticph How did you cause extra turbulence inside your potato-canon to speed up the burning-proces?

    • @DreadX10
      @DreadX10 4 роки тому +2

      Would be interesting to see a detonation wave-front navigating the Tesla-valve.

    • @TC-xt8ts
      @TC-xt8ts 4 роки тому

      @@DreadX10 Could one possibly use this force for weapons of mass destruction? Asking for a friend

    • @i-love-comountains3850
      @i-love-comountains3850 4 роки тому +1

      @@DreadX10
      Mythbusters did a great video on this, I think. Something like junk bailing wire crumpled up or anything really. NOT STEEL WOOL sweet baby jesus i found that out the hard way!!😨
      Lol and yeah maybe avoid using rocks or something that could be swept up inti the barrel and block the exit during ignition...basically be sure not to create a giant claymore by accident😱😂

  • @droolingmonk
    @droolingmonk 4 роки тому +40

    What happens to sound? I'd like to know what happens when you speak in each direction through it. Great video!

    • @David-bc4rh
      @David-bc4rh 4 роки тому +1

      OHH its sure to have different pitches depending on the length. Experimenting with this would require some serious maths and/or some serious time-consuming trial and error with many different dimensions and designs

    • @interestingiftrue8668
      @interestingiftrue8668 4 роки тому

      hahaha playing back at .25 speed to see what is happening... the irony of hearing "rrrreeeeaaaallllyyyy qqqquuuuiiiicccckkkkllllyyyy" 😉

  • @JasonB72481
    @JasonB72481 4 роки тому +9

    how about rigging one of these into a circle. It sounds dangerous, but it was a curious thought.

    • @СергейБазанов-ь8ц
      @СергейБазанов-ь8ц 4 роки тому +4

      you know, that wouldnt really work if you think about it. if its a circle then its a closed loop, right? and if you ignite a gas in a closed space (with walls made out of glass) guess what happens

    • @SylverProductions
      @SylverProductions 4 роки тому +2

      Even if it doesn't explode, after one loop there would be no more gas to combust.

    • @Alienami
      @Alienami 4 роки тому

      It would be really annoying to balance that; too much or too little pressure or resistance or distance causing delay would stop it -- other problems notwithstanding.

    • @michaelschmidt4192
      @michaelschmidt4192 3 роки тому

      That's outside the box! Good chance that some-one will see an application for that.

  • @tomislavseparovic1073
    @tomislavseparovic1073 4 роки тому +33

    Maybe a good way to demonstrate the flow throught the valve would be to flow water through it and add a little stream of colorant

    • @jacobb5484
      @jacobb5484 4 роки тому +1

      The weight may distort it

    • @messenger291
      @messenger291 4 роки тому +2

      @@jacobb5484 unless the valve were laid flat

    • @max-jv3zz
      @max-jv3zz 4 роки тому

      you could use water with glitter in it and let the water flow vertically in both directions vertically

    • @MaksiZockt
      @MaksiZockt 4 роки тому

      I don't think that would work. water is not compressible and the valve seems to work by using the ability of gases to compress

    • @greenthizzle4
      @greenthizzle4 4 роки тому

      Chris Russell he didn't make the buckets curve back enough, he also should have made the channels thinner.. this didn't actually work as a flashback arrestor which is what tesla designed it as

  • @thomasjeskins7063
    @thomasjeskins7063 4 роки тому +34

    “Velve”

    • @xenonram
      @xenonram 4 роки тому +8

      Velve... Lol. I was looking for this comment.

    • @LordDragox412
      @LordDragox412 4 роки тому +1

      Iz a gud velv

    • @Averna222
      @Averna222 4 роки тому +2

      Cool video but man was it hard to get passed that.

    • @Bear8Photo
      @Bear8Photo 4 роки тому

      So cringe. I almost stopped the video early.

    • @LanteanStargater
      @LanteanStargater 4 роки тому

      @@Averna222 Past

  • @goldassayer93555
    @goldassayer93555 4 роки тому +11

    OK, so this is a mechanical diode. it flows easily in one direction and resists in the other. this would allow you to change an oscillating flow into a direct flow is you set up 4 of these tesla valves as in a rectifier.
    how can you use this technique to produce usable energy from a chaotic flow?

    • @jamesburleson1916
      @jamesburleson1916 4 роки тому +4

      Holy shit, wave energy, like from ocean waves, with a *Full Bridge Rectifier!!* of Tesla valves. All you have to do is have an oscillating water source and you have a self acting, low head pump. With enough volume, you could set up a small low head turbine to run either intermittently or even constantly, with a reservoir.

    • @redcastlefan
      @redcastlefan 4 роки тому +2

      @@jamesburleson1916 imma go ahead and screenshot this before big oil makes y'all dissapear.

  • @Miranda.Powers
    @Miranda.Powers Рік тому +1

    (clicked here from the shorts) nifty video! I could watch that side by side for hours it's so neat. Thanks for sharing 💜

  • @jaunty17
    @jaunty17 4 роки тому +165

    Little-known fact: Tesla also invented Velveeta.

    • @mrawolf2946
      @mrawolf2946 4 роки тому +4

      space-x too ?

    • @akbychoice
      @akbychoice 4 роки тому +7

      That was cheesy

    • @justindecker9557
      @justindecker9557 4 роки тому +3

      @@akbychoice kobes pilot gave barrack husseins husband michael a pelvic buldge

    • @joelw8780
      @joelw8780 4 роки тому

      😂😂😂😂

  • @scorpionf1504
    @scorpionf1504 4 роки тому +24

    Acts like a valveless pulse jet.

    • @jeffmcvay
      @jeffmcvay 4 роки тому +1

      Indeed, I wonder how much thrust was generated.

    • @whisperingsage89
      @whisperingsage89 4 роки тому

      A valveless valve?

    • @David-bc4rh
      @David-bc4rh 4 роки тому +2

      @@jeffmcvay Do you think acceleration would be achieved blowing compressed air through the tesla valve, much like the pulse flame?

    • @moegamatnazeer8241
      @moegamatnazeer8241 4 роки тому

      I wonder how a ball bearing would react placed just in front of the initial wave at the start of the valve... would the ball accelerate within the valve and exit, or will it just explode...

  • @donbasuradenuevo
    @donbasuradenuevo 4 роки тому +5

    I'm a simple guy.
    I just want to see a flamethrower built from tesla valves.

  • @jbay088
    @jbay088 4 роки тому +34

    Someone else has probably pointed it out already, but:
    The same reason you noted for the valve system accelerating the expanding gas forward through the valve, also explains why the gas creates fast jets in reverse when you're forcing it backwards through the valve. The expanding gas front finds it easier to turn around and go through the valve "the right way", speeding up in the process.

  • @MarufoVega
    @MarufoVega 4 роки тому +196

    As a person whose entire career was concerned with experimental fluid dynamics and heat transfer, this experiment of yours is seriously flawed but interesting nevertheless. You set out to demonstrate how the fluid flow going one way through the valve differs from what happens the other way with a hypothesis that it will be moving faster one way versus the other. Flame propagation is a different phenomenon. This is why the flame propagation appears to be much more rapid than the fluid flow in the device is likely to be. The fluid flow affects the flame propagation and mixing of the gas within air in the channel but this is not necessarily telling you much about what you set out to show about the fluid flow.
    Flow visualization will be easier to do well using a liquid like water to which you can add particles (need to be near neutral buoyancy or really small, flakes like glitter, dyes, small bubbles etc. Gravity feeding water from a bucket into a funnel and then a tube to an inlet on your valve would be one way to achieve a water flow. Glitter flakes and appropriate lighting would get you there. With a dye, you could establish the flow and then add a bit of dye so a slug of dye moves through the system. I have done work using fluorescent dyes, fluorescein disodium salt or uranine are water soluble and absorb blue light with green fluorescence. The water should not have chlorine in it for best results with these dyes - distilled water or tap water than has sat around at least 5 days to let the chlorine diffuse out of it. These dyes are what they dye the river in Chicago with on St. Patrick's Day. However a food color dye could work but may be more difficult to see. You want to introduce slugs of dye off, on, off with continuous flow. Backlighting particles/flakes may work better than lighting from the camera side and glitter flakes won't need to be introduced in slugs to provide some idea of velocity in a video as long as the frame rate is appropriate for the speed of motion. You can adjust the flow rate some by changing the vertical distance between the water source and you flow channel. An adjustable restriction on the outlet side of the device could also be used to adjust the flow rate.
    For air, you might try using a vacuum cleaner to draw air through the system - don't try and push air into it. But flow vis with smoke requires a dense smoke source or you will not be able to see much. But smoke in the inlet flow, then out, then in, etc. may show what you want.

    • @alvaroramirez5086
      @alvaroramirez5086 4 роки тому +10

      Howard Petrie I agree. I may be wrong, but a tesla valve has no practical use in any industry. This valve is great proof that by manipulating the behavior of fluids within a container, you can decrease or increase pressures; just like proportioning valves on hydraulic systems, check valves in pneumatic systems, mufflers in cars, and countless other examples. This video has too many flaws in how it attempts to explain the behavior of fluids in a tesla valve. I guarantee that by using a combustible fluid and setting fire to it, there HAS to be some degree of a vacuum that develops at both openings that affects the flame propagation and does not represent how a fluid, under pressure or not, would behave in the same valve. You want to push a flame to super sonic levels? Lol good luck feeding that flame and good luck building a pressure vessel to handle that.

    • @ZacLowing
      @ZacLowing 4 роки тому +1

      Dude, that sounds beautiful! Make is so!

    • @hommie789
      @hommie789 4 роки тому

      @@jg1503 I like the thought of using air also and use a medium like sugar or flower, easy to get will show accumulations in the system and light enough to reasonable flow results.

    • @brandonshaw7619
      @brandonshaw7619 4 роки тому +3

      I'm glad I didn't have to write this

    • @squiddi1393
      @squiddi1393 4 роки тому +3

      I wanted to write a comment about this but you pretty much covered it. Thanks.

  • @frankh.3849
    @frankh.3849 4 роки тому +20

    Be interesting to see this concept implemented into a 2-stroke exhaust pipe Instead of an expansion chamber.

    • @aSinisterKiid
      @aSinisterKiid 4 роки тому +2

      There is a company that has sorta gone that route, while not a 2-stroke exhaust pipe, but a supressor for a handgun.

    • @frankh.3849
      @frankh.3849 4 роки тому +2

      @FuLLeFFekT1 yeah the Tesla valve has back pressure when used in reverse as we all saw in the video.

  • @chrisbalfour466
    @chrisbalfour466 4 роки тому +6

    I've been thinking about the acceleration effect. Each subsequent valve has a slightly higher pressure in the restricted direction which accelerates the flame. Probably a trade-off where the restrictions convert some heat into pressure. Each valve would cause the temperature to drop slightly. How many valves can be chained together would depend on the average channel diameter and fuel/gas used. Below an ideal channel size excess valves would decelerate or extinguish the flame.
    This could be useful for rocket engines, imho.

    • @cpark2570
      @cpark2570 4 роки тому +1

      I think this serves as the key to what Tesla was talking about when he was saying his turbine engine could achieve 95% efficiency.
      If the Tesla valve is acting the same way a Shchelkin spiral does, enabling a deflagration-to-detonation transition, that means that the thermal efficiency of the device is automatically north of 50% by virtue of the detonation which can even hit 60% if sufficient supersonic velocity is hit (I saw those numbers around mach 6).
      Even around 50% puts Tesla's turboengine it in the same fuel range as the diesel engines that power billion dollar freight ships which is insane.
      Given that Tesla quoted his efficiency at around 60% without steam in the gas it might not be crazy to think he really wasn't talking about mechanical efficiency but rather fuel efficiency.
      If he managed to make true blue pulse detonation chamber he was literally working on someone that the rest of us wouldn't catch up to for another 30-50 years.
      Using the same gas expansion principle as what's hurling the combustion gases faster and faster should apply to liquid water pumped through an adjacent Tesla valve making use of the heat which would normally be wasted turned in to useful force all without any moving parts.
      Considering that you're making use of waste heat by boiling water with it and that Tesla's turbine improves when you adding steam due to (I believe) both water's heat transfer potential as well as viscosity this means he might have been telling the truth.
      Personally I think the 95% thing is a pipe dream but I still have ambitions to make my Turbo-Gasifier fed Pulse Detonation Tesla Turboshaft Steam Engine.... with an aerospike nozzle for added insanity!*
      * My understanding: Aerospike nozzles are really effective/efficient at all kinds of speeds/pressures meaning they'd make a hypothetically great fit with a Tesla turbine as their need for large surface area cooling ties perfectly with the turbine's need for steam to improve viscosity/inner turbine pressure while taking advantage of the fact that the Tesla turbine doesn't care about steam quality so you can prioritize your water flow around the cooling of the nozzle without worrying about water drops running a minigun through your turbine's blades.

  • @clintparsons3989
    @clintparsons3989 4 роки тому +71

    Honestly, I'm surprised. Dyson hasn't used this.

    • @razor1uk610
      @razor1uk610 4 роки тому +6

      they most like;y do use the effect of fast moving air already across sharp baffles and other eddy/vortex making flow obstructions with high-speed electric motors, to work how they do, just not in the specific long 'Tesla' style seen here.

    • @mikuspalmis
      @mikuspalmis 4 роки тому +2

      @Sam Sonite Lol

    • @Zen_Power
      @Zen_Power 4 роки тому +1

      Need a Femto camera. This high speed frame rate isn’t high enough.

    • @gappuma7883
      @gappuma7883 4 роки тому

      Clint Parsons or Elon musk i the new tesla car

    • @dmdrummer23
      @dmdrummer23 4 роки тому

      When it comes to actual applications, although interesting, thermodynamics tells us that the flame cannot gain more energy through the valve. So it removes energy in both directions.
      Check valves (etc.) may just be a simpler alternative that are easier to maintain.

  • @remoterabbit
    @remoterabbit 4 роки тому +145

    isn't that just sonic running really fast through it

  • @alams3860
    @alams3860 4 роки тому +21

    Better view :
    Speed 0.25x and here's the time stamp:
    5:21 - side by side comparison
    2:40 - Reverse direction in valve
    4:04 - forward in valve

  • @flatlandriver2471
    @flatlandriver2471 4 роки тому +5

    Old engineer here. Was unfamiliar with this valve. Thank You!
    Could use to make a woodstove chimney, could even put fins on the retardation loops to further enhance convective heat transfer. Could make a propane patio heater that doesn’t just blow all the heat out the top.

    • @angelocarantino4803
      @angelocarantino4803 2 роки тому

      That's an awesome idea :)

    • @brucearterbury1856
      @brucearterbury1856 9 місяців тому

      This makes me wonder about the benefits of incorporating the Tesla Valve into a rocket stove/thermo-mass heater.

  • @mattshiz
    @mattshiz 4 роки тому +204

    Very interesting. The more I learn about Tesla, the more I realise how much of an under rated genius he was!

    • @reddpill
      @reddpill 4 роки тому +7

      Now lookup Viktor Schauberger

    • @exoticcreature3059
      @exoticcreature3059 4 роки тому +4

      @@reddpill Despite being immediately "discredited" by the mainstream pseudo science establishment, if you will, his technology is being utilized in turbine engines on commercial airplanes. Then end result, the airports charge enormous sums of money for fuel that the airplanes don't use.

    • @Uncashill
      @Uncashill 4 роки тому

      Exotic Creature As a former commercial Aircraft Mech. Trust me they use the Jet A

    • @exoticcreature3059
      @exoticcreature3059 4 роки тому +1

      @@Uncashill I didn't say they don't use fuel. I said they don't use much. A lot less than what we're being led to believe.

    • @mikedickerson2755
      @mikedickerson2755 4 роки тому +4

      Yes, and the deeper you look the more evil Edison gets..

  • @drew4887
    @drew4887 4 роки тому +165

    Drinking game... everytime he says "velve", take a shot.

    • @Arcticthunder105
      @Arcticthunder105 4 роки тому +7

      I have alcohol poisoning now, thanks

    • @parthl
      @parthl 4 роки тому +4

      i’d black out 73 seconds into the vid

  • @FlandersCieAileSud
    @FlandersCieAileSud 4 роки тому +23

    "Supersonic fire" Sounds awesome, i wanna see it...

    • @brenttate9299
      @brenttate9299 4 роки тому +2

      Yeah it's usually known as Dynamite

    • @RR-uc1wb
      @RR-uc1wb 4 роки тому +2

      B G Ok then. Napalm it is.

    • @mayurmahale3049
      @mayurmahale3049 4 роки тому +2

      @@barongerhardt yep. Combustion velocity is hilariously slow. The laminar flame velocity of hydrogen is roughly 3m/s. Gas turbine combustors operate at around 20-40m/s. Turbulent flame velocities are higher but not by that much. And if the velocity increases the engines flameout.

    • @brenttate9299
      @brenttate9299 4 роки тому +1

      @@barongerhardt apparently you've never heard of sarcasm. Now on the other hand the flame from Dynamite is supersonic

    • @brenttate9299
      @brenttate9299 4 роки тому

      @@barongerhardt not everyone is an English major. Maybe you should try reading it thinking about it three times adding common sense to it thinking about it again before answering some of us are here for the Practical knowledge and not the English lesson Had we wanted that we would be watching different videos

  • @BrandonAB
    @BrandonAB 4 роки тому +12

    "Velve" because you don't want to get sued by Gabe Newell.