How to Choose a Coding Bootcamp
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Coding and Software Engineering didn't cross my mind until someone introduced me to coding. I am over 40 and was fortunate that I am computer savvy.
may i ask you privately?
I’m really bad at math. Do I need strong math skills to become a software engineer?
Love the video and the personal experiences through David, Artur, and Jason. Think this is great and timely for those thinking of career changes during these crazy times
I have looked into boot camps recently. I am getting pretty serious about it. This video has helped my research.
This is truly helpful for student like me who wants to start coding and contemplating paying for short courses or online free resources.
I feel so happyy to see you growing as a person and your channel growing!! All of your video give me such comforting vibe!
No offense to David, but the university-affiliated boot camps are deceptive. They’re all taught by Trilogy Education Services without accreditation or university instructors. Borrowing the university brand name for almost entirely independent programs is disingenuous and encourages the students to dishonestly leverage the brand: David is **not** UCI alumni with rights to the UCI "network & prestige". It's somewhat disturbing how many reputable universities have become accomplices.
EDIT: Trilogy Education Services, not Triology.
yup, this needs to be thumbs upped more.
Explain to more please, I'm looking at university of Toronto which has one. Any advice on which ones that are actually good, and does it matter because is education not education. I mean is 1+1 equal 2 everywhere around the world? Or is this a question of quality in terms of depth of study, please your thoughts...
@simisani moyo I was looking into UNiversity of Washington bootcamp a few years ago, which I didn’t find out it was a trilogy bootcamp until a few weeks after I made a down payment. I had a scholarship I was awarded from my prior job, and I thought it was really weird that they wouldn’t accept it. I did some digging, and found out that trilogy was running the bootcamp, not UW. I also read as many reddit posts I could find about trilogy and their were a lot of mixed/negative reviews about trilogy. The fact that they wouldn’t accept my scholarship was the biggest red flag for me. I ultimately dropped out before the first day, got a full refund, and decided to go back to college instead. I currently have two ish years left.
Not to spook you or anything, because there have been many success stories of youtubers who went through bootcamp a and got jobs, but weigh your options of bootcamps or even maybe a college by doing research before committing
I applied to the UCI bootcamp administered by Trilogy Edu Services, now i'm so glad they put my application on hold cause I haven't been "communicating with them" enough and due to my "lack of activity" moving forward to secure the payment plan/ financing. it seems like they just want to twist your arm into the program without giving you time to do some research. I took the assessment test which they said will determine if I am cognitively capable of completing this program. I got a 20/20, but still, i am not sure if their tests are really there to measure my cognition or just a gimmick to make themselves seem more legitimate.
I couldn’t agree more
Hi Mayuko, thanks for this video, a lot of people can benefit from it and make more conscious decision about their futures. 🙂
A few of the boot camps may just be a grab for money because of the economy changes and a lot of incomplete information how much can programmers potentially earn, while not showing all the caveats of this vocation, the ones you showed in the video seem to be the real deal. I'm hoping you're doing well during the crisis, I can truly say that I see you're regained so much energy and happinness after quitting your job 😊
Guy in yellow flannel - what an inspiration! Would love to see more of him in future videos!!!
damn. this is helpful, mayuko :) thanks!
One problem I often find when attending a course where other students have previous knowledge on the matter, is how impatient and discouraged they become because of the difference regarding the speed in which other students with zero knowledge have when it comes to learn new stuff. I came to realize that’s best for me to try and stay away from that type of classmates because it just opens a window to conflict. The problem is that most of the times they put you in groups to work on a project so you can develop a fundamental skill which is teamwork. When you can’t avoid working with others who are just better or learn faster than you, just try to be clear from the beginning that you’re gonna do your best by saying and supporting it with effort. At the end of the day it all comes to focusing on bettering yourself as a developer and always remembering that each one of us have our own time frame to understand and apply the knowledge we are being given.
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ありがとうございます！！👍👍
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いい情報やわ～～😄
Last minute was insightful thanks!
Thank you for blessing my youtube feed =)
I will start mine in June and is April right now, I’m excited!!! I’ll give updates later
I teach on the side for a coding bootcamp. I'm among the few teachers who hasn't gone through the bootcamp itself and instead is coming from a more traditional computer engineering education. First of all, when I see how good my fellow teachers are, I can already tell that in the long-run the bootcamp does prepare you to learn things on your own and grow as a professional.
In the short term, I see many of our graduates being incredibly talented programmers and often they find a job a few months after the end of the program.
As you said, it's incredibly tough and challenging, but it's truly impressive to see how much stuff can be learned in 3/4 months with the right guidance.
Of course, many things can also be learned on the internet using free (or almost free) resources, however, just because of the sheer number of resources out there, it's really hard to choose the right ones.
Plus, as far as the students say one of the greatest added benefits of the bootcamp is being able to bounce off issues and ideas with fellow students and teachers.
I'm in the process of looking for and applying to a bootcamp. This video could not have come at a better time. Good work!
good luck, keep us updated!
how did it go mate?
@@SG-tx1fz Applied to one, got in and am loving it. One of the top in my class! Couldn't be happier.
@@cgriffin522 Can I ask which one did u choose?
Dont do it Christian.
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Keep inspiring insh'Allah
thankyou this is helpful im gonna look for UX Design specific stuff I think
There is actually an advantage when people coming from a different industry into software engineering. It is their domain expertise, and when they apply it into software engineering, it really boosts them by a lot. For example, a software engineer who is also a payment fraud expert is a gold mine for fintech, making them really shine above the average. So what we should do when pursuing software engineering is strategically focus on what domain we already have exp in, and conduct a career plan which targets it specifically.
マユコさん、いつも素晴らしい情報ありがとうございます。
これからも、頑張ってくださいね😆
who else is lowkey excited to learn how to code in 2020
Started my bootcamp 1 month ago!!
Do you guys think they are worth it
@@AdrIanRuiz_92 Hey! what bootcamps do you attend, and how is it so far?
@@macroykohnyui6539 NuCamp Coding Bootcamp and it’s going great!!! I start my full stack course in 2 weeks
I'm high key
I believe codding is not for everybody but anybody can code.
@@simpletongeek you sound like the kind of person who thinks they're calling everyone out on their bullshit but they're just annoying and toxic af
@@simpletongeek i mean, what did i expect lol
@@simpletongeek ah, the ol' switcharoo
It's a nice skill to know / have, but it's like with anything, anybody can do something, but to actually be good and master it, not that many.
simpletongeek lol so you admit that you’re bad at a programming and you want to give people advice?? You seem very un-smart
具体的な説明があり、非常に分かりやすかったです。
コーディングブートキャンプ、挑戦してみよっかな （笑）
I’m looking at bootcamps as alternative to collage since they seem to be cheaper, I really appreciate this video it’s definitely helped point me in the right direction !
And which did you choose
Are you done with bootcamp
Thanks for inspirarion
it's interesting to hear how different things are over in murica-land.
Over here in Europe such bootcamps almost don't exist. At least not in or around germany. You'd mostly apply on college courses.
Personally I would say that learning online / on your own is one of the best ways to get started. Programming is something that sort of needs to become your hobby. if it's not, you're falling back day after day. But if it is your hobby you can become very proficient in your domain and you'll be able to get a lot of job offers. Find something that you enjoy, be it frontend, backend, ios, android, web or general application development. Do it a lot. And you don't have to become great, just do it a lot.You'll learn a lot and you'll understand the basics - like really understand. Doing this part-time this probably takes about a year or two but after that time you'll have lots of options ahead of you as you'll be a very good junior dev. And companies LOVE junior enthusiasts.
What a smart comment! Dann habe ich festgestellt, dass er auch noch von einen fellow German ist! 😁
Hey man, thanks for the insight. Is there a way I can PM you? I have a couple of questions on entering the industry in Germany as a foreigner.
That's a very good point! But I actually disagree that such bootcamps don't exist in Europe. I live in Berlin as an expat and there are many coding/data science bootcamps in Berlin/online or within Europe. My very good friend did a coding bootcamp in Berlin and is not working as a junior backend developer. Some developers at my previous and current company also were hired from bootcamps in Berlin.
In Deutschland gibt es eher Traineeships. Wo du im Job lernst and dafuer bezahlt wirst. Man kann sogar nur mit einer Ausbildung als Fachinformatiker Anwendungsentwicklung bei einigen Beratungsbuden starten. Als Junior soll man lernen. Allgemein soll man immer lernen, um relevant zu bleiben. Seniors hassen Leute, die Theorien, Paradigmen und Technologien nicht lernen wollen. Sorry, my German is not good when I am writing bilingually, I hope I will get my point across.
In Germany, there are rather traineeships, where you learn on the job and you will get paid. You can even start with just an apprenticeship in Application development. The primary concern of a junior is to learn, generally, you should always learn to stay relevant. Seniors hate people who refuse to learn theories, paradigma and technologies.
Great advice thank you I am changing careers and I find myself drawn to front end development. It’s definitely a steep learning curve coming from the healthcare field but I feel excited about it and eager to learn
Wanjirumuhiukia from Kenya, completed my degree in IT 2017,....i love your content💗, this video is so helpful to me as I continue with my journey to becoming an excellent software engineer 🙏..........
Thanks so much for making this
Let's assume you have a science degree like physics or astronomy for example.... is a bootcamp really necessary in that case? Or are you able to study on your own and close your gaps? Given you have already done programming for topics relatad to your field?
I didn't make the proper research while looking into attending a coding bootcamp in Tokyo and entered the wrong program, lost lots of money and was told I don't learn fast enough, that I wasn't allowed to be part of the senior project and that if I complained too much, they would make sure I'd never get a job in tech in Japan. I checked a few websites where alumni make testimonials for bootcamps and noticed that most of the testimonials were from former students who ended up working for the Bootcamp afterwards, guess it says it all.
Had to make a loan and attend another bootcamp that I just concluded last week and already have a job offer being negotiated for a remote position.
Don't get lured by these "too good to be true" "silicon valley style" bootcamps, talk to former students, lots of them if possible and if you feel something fishy in the air, reconsider investing your time and money on it.
コーディングブートキャンプか。
興味ある！！
Hi Mayuko, thanks for your effort. Would you know which of the bootcamps require upfront fees /payment and which ones are free but offer an ISA - Income Share Agreement ?
Can u tell us some good IT courses/ certifications with no coding skills required?
I really dont know if I should go to a coding boot camp or not. I really would like to do both a CS degree and boot camp once I am finished. Being lucky enough to go to a local 4 year for free is also a factor.
I got accepted to Flatiron starting 7/6
It was cool to see Artur he actually helped me applied and find my bootcamp. This was a great video definitely on of my favorites from Mayuko channel
I’m enjoying the program so far! Doing self-paced online while I’m furloughed. Congrats and good luck! 7/6 is right around the corner!
Keep us updated with your progress! Congrats!
hows your post bootcamp experience?
@@meltruong8818 So far so good I start with no experience and I've done things I never though possible. This has been an amazing experience
update?
I think the operative phrase is career change. As a college dropout, it didn't do shit for me. However, my peers who all already had a career, or at least a degree, were able to make the switch, if that's what they ultimately wanted.
Luckily, I chose a comparatively cheap program. I decided to bite the bullet, take out the loans, and pursue an applied mathematics degree this coming fall. I am hoping long run it pays off in some way, but I am not sure how because I already forget a shit ton other than writing basic functions, which I could already do beforehand.
Thank you!!! I’m a rising senior in high school and will enroll in computer science going into community college but then transfer to a 4 year school. But I am also considering going to a boot camp after college to refine my skills.
That is definitely a waste of money when you can just go straight to bootcamp. $10,000+ to refine your skills?
@veevyo comp sci is a hard one to finish tho most ppl drop out in the first yr idk wht to do since i heard this and i also need a bachelors but ppl keep saying the math is hard in comp sci hard to grad etc😢😣
Ganda mo talaga Mayuko...
Can you explain how to go about after bootcamp trying to find a job especially someone without CS degree? There are staff position that requires 8yrs experience.
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Great video it was very helpful! I want to get into coding and my girlfriend's family reccomended that I take a coding bootcamp. However I never finished college so I don't have any relevant degree. My question is how important is it to have a degree when it comes to finding jobs in coding? And is it possible to find a job after a bootcamp without a degree?
Self taught folks have a chance to get hired , try your luck.
Thx
Hi Yuko I like your channel content, I come from Indonesia
UC Irvine bootcamp is a bootcamp partnered by Trilogy. After doing a lot of research, I found out that Trilogy's quality is subpar and only uses these universities' names for recognition. If you're looking for a coding bootcamp, please stay away from Trilogy (they have partnered with a lot of universities like UCLA, UC Berkley, Columbia, UPenn, UT Austin...) and similar companies to it.
For beginners in a bootcamp, would I need more than one laptop to get me started ?
I have a question. Is online bootcamp worth it? I mean like udemy and such, since they cost like way cheaper. Is the curriculum similar to conventional bootcamp? And in terms of job, is it worth putting them in resume (some website like udemy actually give you certificate when you finish a course)?
ps. i'm currently halfway on my online bootcamp and it's been really great
I’m sure if you research what the best courses are on those platforms for what you want to learn you’d learn something worthwhile. I know on Udemy, a lot of the better courses have mostly good reviews and they are updated regularly but make sure you wait for the sale price or google promo codes to get the $10-20 price, I wouldn’t pay more than that. The best courses have assignments/projects connected to them so you can practice what you’re learning and then use google and docs to fill in the missing pieces.
What online bootcamp did you go to? Have you landed a job yet? I’m really curious because I am wanting to do the same
Which one did you choose? I’m having trouble looking for a good one :(
been helping students break into the tech industry. what are the avg time to find a job after graduation? thanks.
I want to be a coder.. Can you advise me ? what to learn first ?
Thank you
which bootcamp school is the best for being a software developer in Canada?
Nice video
i love you mayuko
A few issues I’m having and can use some help-
I currently own a business and has strongly declined due to covid. Not sure if it will pick back up.
I know nothing whatsoever about coding, but know it’s a very big industry with decent salaries. I grew up with computers but never dabbled in anytime of programming or coding.
How will I know this is right for me before I give 15k to a boot camp? I don’t want to stall any other of the students but I would probably need more time than the average person.
Any advice at all or any suggestions for a specific boot camp would be helpful. Thank you!
Search DonTheDeveloper. He has tons of videos from different boot camp grads that are not biased.
Hi, Mayuko..I really like to watch your contents..would u like to share some story about each role in s/w engineering stages in a real world..?
Damn your hair is shining ✨
@@prakashgatiyala9869 dude let the guy try
Prakash Gatiyala it’s just a compliment 😂
Hi all, I am curious why people would choose a paid bootcamp (usually highly expensive) that doesn’t come with an internship opposed to the hundreds of free bootcamps that do offer internships?
Just overall curiosity.
Do you have a list of these that offer internships? I have been researching boot camps all week and none have listed internships
Hey!
Does anyone knows more of the data analysis pay after placement programs accepting applications all over the globe?
but as a job requirement most of companies asking for bsc degree ? , and a s a job visa requirement
Im planning on starting in 2022
Udemy us all I needed
Wowzers
I have a BS in Mechanical Engineering and I am dead set on making a career switch into computer science. Which option would be the best course of action for me?
1. Go back to school and get a MS in Computer Science
2. Go to a coding bootcamp
I have little to no experience in coding but have been self teaching for a few months now and have found this is some thing I do enjoy doing. Which approach would be best?
A master's would be a bit easier to get a job
A masters would definitely help you get internships and more jobs opportunities.
My experience of coding bootcamp is you learn one language. Then you go to the job market and employers want 3 to 4 languages and 2 years experience. I regret doing my bootcamp with Lewagon. A lot of money and little reward. My advice would be to study coding yourself. I've applied for 70-80 software dev jobs and got 2 interviews. The other problem is there are many hoops to get through. Sometimes 4 interviews.
Is doing a bootcamp instead of a degree after highschool better ? I was considering le wagon too 😞
@@aena5995 dont choose le wagon. I applied for over 100 jobs and got 3 interviews over a 6 month period. I'm still unemployed, cant even get a junior dev job. Le wagon are liars and manipulators.
@@aena5995 it’s different for everybody don’t just listen to this dude there’s been plenty that got job after law agony it’s possible but it’s not guaranteed
MOOC vs Bootcamps?
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Can I go to a coding bootcamp right after highschool and land a job afterwards, or do you need a college degree?
@Cashbeast 23
Coding boot camps are for anyone! You don’t need a college degree, some don’t even require any experience but I’d suggest that if you want to make the most out of a boot camp, choose one that requires some knowledge, those are more rigorous and you’ll learn so much more! I wish I started even DURING high school! I haven’t started one yet but I will soon!
I already got accepted in lewagon starting on 09/19 :)
Are you doing ruby?
@@andresviveros3994 yes , Ruby will be the main language but we will also learn js css and html
Awesome!
@@fernandoortiz1849 did u get a job , did u have degrees prior
@@aena5995 yes, I did get a job 1 week before finishing the bootcamp and no, I didn't have any prior education on web development but what I did do was studying a lot like seriously a lot, I didn't do any other thing than working and studying, for 6 months I didn't go out with my friends or watch any movie or series or procrastinating in any way it was though but it worked, good luck!
If I have an Associate degree and a Bootcamp certificate, will I still be held back from many opportunities because of Associate instead of Bachelors degree?
Some jobs require the degree and some don't and some jobs that do require a bachelor's degree still sometimes hire people even without having a computer science degree depends on the company. Doesn't matter if you got a bachelor degree or you graduated from a coding boot camp don't be afraid to apply to jobs you can still get a job.
I'm already in college for software engineering, but I was wondering if it would be a good secondary learning opportunity to supplement my college classes or should I just keep doing the college thing and not worry about bootcamps?
I graduated from a coding bootcamp and I had a good few classmates who were fresh grads from software engineering. I know it really benefitted them since Bootcamps teach you the fundamentals to getting a job, and they already had the theoretical knowledge from their degree. It definitely gave them the upperhand.
That being said, if youre considering doing it, probably better to do it after finishing your degree rather than during, since bootcamps are super intensive and most expect you to treat it like a fulltime job (daily 9-5 in class or more)
Bootcamp Plus College is a win win if you really have a budget and time for it.
Just Self study and College is good too
Definitely I'm doing the same
@@HeyItsHarsh Thanks, l'll keep that in mind.
Right now I'm in University and doing self learning. What I learn in class is just not enough so I just try to expand on what I learn in class but obviously it's a lot easier to pick things up because I have already learned about them. I use my professor as a safety net to ask anything I may be stuck on. I'm just trusting the process and going along with the stuff I'm learning here. University is super pricey as is, can't afford a bootcamp
is it possible to find job as a foreigner in europe , with a bootcamp ?
can you do a video about botcamps in europe
Any advice on MSSA Microsoft course?
Is International Student or a student from another country can join??
It's the worst time to find a job right now, but learning the skills is nice
yup, I would just spend the time to learn the skills and leetcode like crazy. building your network is also crucial to getting your foot in the door as always.
One of the things I think would be a good question to ask a coding BootCamp - is can you provide me with completed projects by your grads.
Can I get f1 student visa for coding bootcamp in usa?
From where to learn this plz
Do you actually get a license
mam can you give an advice? i dont have a computer i only have a smartphone do you have a guide on how i could develop on my smartphone?
It’s possible to develop on a smartphone but it’s way too complicated to try and develop in it and it’s just best to invest in a laptop honestly
@@briansanchez7751 thank sir, youre response is well appreciated.
I mean if u can gets Bluetooth keyboard I don’t see why you couldn’t 😂
Has anyone used coding dojo? Whats your review on it?
Does anyone have recommendations? Within the US? ☺️
App academy open / springboard free courses.
For free and very good ones
By any chance, is it possible for me as Bussiness student to be a software engineer by joining a bootcamp?
There are many ways of becoming a software engineer, it is not a must to join a bootcamp or having a computer science degree. Are you still interest in learning coding?
@@pompiapplegeek Yes i am.
Great to hear that. Can you please add me on Linked In under the name Miha Pompe, I think I could give you some advice and help with how to proceed.
@@pompiapplegeek Done sir.
Yes you can study business and software engineering. There is actually a degree called Bcom Informatics or Bsc Informatics that pairs software development and business into one degree.
might as well go with hack reactor lol
Been thinking to enrol in bootcamp... But maaaaan it's sooooo expensive. Anyone can suggest a good online based cheap place to learn more about coding?????
There are a lot of free resources like in UA-cam you can find channels that teach coding. Khan academy is free, there are also books you can get for beginners. That’s how I’m starting before even going into a bootcamp.
@@celestemoreno2343 thanks
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hi mayuko my nickname mayuka, nice to meet you
Please put your ads at least 3 ads in ur video, i cant let this very informative and high quality video unmonetize!
Do coders have to work overtime ?
80hrs a week I was hearing
I love you mayuko.
Actually, learning on a trainee is better than trying to learn in a bootcamp. Getting paid while learning is better. Actually a dev should never cease to learn. I am a jnr software engineer in Germany.
What did you have to do to land your position?
Ditch the boot camps and teach yourself 👍🏾
I attended and graduated from Lambda School and it was one of the best decisions I have ever made. I attended the part time Computer Science/Web Development course (which is completely remote) so that I was able to work my normal 8 hour job, supporting myself while completing the course. It took about a year and 2 months or so.
I developed several notable projects both solo, and in groups ranging from 3-7 that served as portfolio projects to show to potential employers and to pad my resume. In the 4/5 months leading up to graduation I started applying to jobs to get an idea of how my resume appeared to employers, and to gain experience in the interview room. Nearly a week after graduation I had an offer. Many people I knew had offers BEFORE graduating, and there are plenty still searching for a job.
Tuition is in the form of an Income Share Agreement, where you don't pay a dime until you are working a tech job paying 50K or more. This is great, because Lambda is invested in you. Their paycheck is reliant on your success. If you don't get a job, they don't get their money so they will push you even after graduation to improve your skills and create more projects.
Lambda has a ton of resources available for students. If you don't have a laptop, there are ways to get one to use. If you need extra help, you have your Team Leader or Instructor Hours. All lectures are recorded so even if you miss a day or two you can still succeed. You have opportunities to become a Team Leader yourself (which they will pay you for) and will put you in a leadership position which is amazing experience for your resume. They also keep up to date with the constantly changing features of coding/programming. I can look back at the current syllabus now, and see that there have been many changes to the curriculum.
If you are searching for a boot-camp, I implore you to put Lambda School on your list to research. It changed my life.
Would you mind connecting? I’m thinking about signing up with Lambda.
@@Cascadia2011 I wouldn't mind at all! I'd love to talk more with you about it. Sorry for the late reply. If you're still interested let me know and we can figure something out. I don't think there is a way to DM with UA-cam.
@@Zubiee i am thinking of going in janurary too
@@richardmedina9014 do it! It will change your life.
Do you do this bootcamp at your own pace or is there a schedule you have to keep up with?
Me, currently in a bootcamp: ...why am I watching this?
Also me: Watches entire video
hey, Which Bootcamp are you in? and are you taking classes on-site or online?
Codesmith is the number boot-camp if you have the $$$$ !
Is it true that some people are not smart enough to be programmers?
who cares, you’re smart enough 😁
Guys stop going to the comments and listen to the video
I'd love to see a video about 42 someday!
You study for free but it's hectic.
@@slimyslice so something like a bootcamp wouldn't be as hectic in your opinion?
Man ima bout simp in code rn
I don’t want to hack someone. I want to code to help people.
based on my idea i think coding bootcamp is too good for me as a student if you want to improve your knowledge and skills about this well that is your starting career as a fresher