I've got a spicy take that your video just helped me process. So, I'm 40. 22 Years ago I entered college with a 4-yr scholarship ready to become a 'computer scientist'. For some reason I thought this would guide me into the wonderful world of making Playstation 2 games. I was wrong, VERY wrong. I couldn't cut it. I hated math. And switched majors [graduated with an Art degree but minored in Comp Sci & Entomology]. A lot of my friends called me a 'tech guy' because I was good with cameras and lenses. But I wasn't very good at videography or photography. I kinda looked back at college as a traumatic experience. A failure. I worked really crappy jobs and learned how folks with money treat folks with no money and are barely making it. After working in a book store that turned into a warehouse for Amazon for about ... 13 years. I got laid off. Ended up getting temp work for a medtech logistics company. I was good on the phones, but I kept looking over the shoulders of the young data analysts and software engineers figuring out which apps they were using. Then one day, they all quit. And my boss asked me to write simple queries to pull data every morning. Then covid hit. And, for some reason, I felt inspired to learn as much as I can about coding languages because "the world is ending...why not?" Now they're calling me a back-end dev/data scientist. I said all of that to say. It's never too late y'all. Life can really kick you in the teeth, but you gotta pick yourself up.
And that's what's wrong with the IT industry. There are many examples like you who were pushed to do some sort of IT related "tasks" and all of a sudden they get slapped with "data scientist" label! For small companies where there are only quick tasks that needed at some point, doing these sort of ad hoc work might make sense, since I don't suppose companies can afford a full time employee or hire others to do these kind of work (if they are smart, they will take a look at the whole information need holistically).
@@demonwaterdemonwater4993 I've since worked on four games and am an art & tech lead for an in development indie game. I've even done VO work for a few games. Love being a game dev, but that wasn't my initial path. And my passion is data science.
@@marnenotmarnie259 They technically didn't. One kinda setup the other [office politics]. But the long and short of it, is the senior DA told the subordinate it was okay to create their own server to create & pull reports from. The subordinate does that, pulls a report that was skewered in front of executives resulting in the subordinate's firing. The senior DA sees this as an opportunity to ask for a raise [about a month later] since his tasks just doubled. He doesn't get the number he asks for and immediately bounced to a better opportunity.
You have no idea how much I needed this video. I'm 28, I've been in tech for a while but never really been in software engineering. Today will be the first time I'll have a job interview in software engineering. Wish me luck. 😅
Thank you for this video! I'm 42 years old, disabled and I just started a data analysis Boot Camp, hearing the stories gave me a lot more confidence to know that I can do this, and that this is the right thing for me. Thank you!
I'm about to turn 43 and just graduated with my BA in Information systems in 2021. I came from a background in the medical field. I'm not ready to look for a job in my preferred field as a Data Analyst but I am steady learning and building a good portfolio for when I am ready. It is scary switching careers in your 40's but some people do get burnt out and need a change. I really enjoyed listening to Dana.
As a SELF-TAUGHT JavaScript developer, I started studying code in my 20s, but seriously at the age of 30. I started with Html, css, and js ... then I decided to learn React - React Native and over time Tailwind and other stuff. Today I am 34 years old, and I can say that it is not easy, for me being a developer means solving problems and therefore improving things. It means, never stop learning, and if you insist, with commitment, you can reach incredible companies. Be wary of those who say that in a few months, you can learn languages and find a job, it's difficult, so it takes a long time ... Remember, it's a marathon. Nice video, as always, Mayuko 😊
I’m 41 and legally blind. I transitioned into tech from liberal arts 5 years ago. I now have a successful job as a Software Developer in Test, and I’m now trying to transition into Product. So yeah, it’s never too late.
Hope this inspires you. I quite my job at the age of 27 during the pandemic. After 1 year and a half of self study and bootcamp, I finally have a solo project to put on my resume and started applying jobs. After two months and 100 applications, 5 responded, interviewed with all 5 of them, I’m lucky to get 1 job offer at last. Persistence, patience, hard work and practice are the keys and maybe a little bit of luck. Don’t give up, everyone!!
いつも素敵な動画ありがとうございます！とても刺激になる内容でした！ I learned coding by myself and changed my job from product manager to software engineer a few years ago. I was actually excited about pursuing what I want to do in my life but also feeling a bit fear at the time. People around me said to me that I should not try to do that because I had certain skills and position. Like she said in this interview, I just focused on hearing my honest voice in my mind and followed it. I bravely chose not to accept any advice from other people. Now I'm doing so well and appreciate my decision so much. Sorry it's just my experience but from my point of view, I think this video help lots of people and I wanted to watch this before my decision😂. Thanks for your great video, I always enjoy your contents and those made me today for sure. Appreciation from Japan!
38 year old here, had years of experience in teaching and retail. And in 2021, I got more interested in tech, particularly data analytics. Because I don't want to have another public facing job again (it's a struggle if you are introverted) and I want to use my brain more in thinking and problem solving so I wanted to enter tech. Quit my job and currently honing myself in SQL and R. Hopefully, I would be able to land a job in tech soon. Thank you for this video. I am actually feeling a bit down today because I have been applying jobs and got rejected so many times. I am still trying. This video gave me a bit of an uplift for today, so thank you.
Hi cris, hey, what about learning python and libraries and resources that go with it? If you get passionable about it with r and python you're going to be hirable for way more jobs and your range and resilience will improve a lot! Is this of any use to you? Cheers from sunny Brazil!
same here! i've acquired a few years of exp in client facing/servicing under my belt but deep down inside i know it's not my true calling, dealing with the whims and caprices of people as an introvert. currently pondering the switch to some career that has less to do with humans, and tech seems to fit the bill. really wish you all the best for the journey ahead! it's gonna be tough contending with all the bright kids just fresh out of college, but still worth a shot. efforts and hard work can translate to success irrespective of age.
Don't give up. I know graduated young people at their 20's got so many rejection. I know someone who made 200 applications he gor 11 interviews and got a job as a software developer for 50k starting salary. Make a good cv and keep applying.
Love it, thank you for the video. I actually learned some very basic coding at 21 while doing an art degree. I quit because of health reasons. I am now studying digital media design and 41 years old. I love coding and it really makes me feel happy. And there are a million things you can do with it. Sometimes it can get daunting, but watching your videos help.
I graduated with a degree in Information Systems in 2020. I’m still in my early 20s, but I couldn’t get a job without any experience. I’m getting my start in finance at a bank first. Hopefully I’ll be able to make the switch into the field I intended to start in. I’ve heard horror stories about tech companies not wanting people over 30. This was a great interview.
those are their stories, you write your own story. I would recommend learning skills within your job to leverage your skills towards what industry you want. 30 is young lol. And fyi, no one really knows how old you are, and it is illegal to 'openly' discriminate you based on age. Good luck.
@@KhaosAtom thank you ! I wanted to start in database administration since that’s what I mostly studied. I will be adding more projects to my portfolio so I’ll have something to show when I’m ready to transition.
Mayuko-san, thank you for creating this video. I think this is good for everyone who wants to try new things in a new role regardless of the type of industry they want to get into. I particularly liked your comment about "you are coming in with a lot of great skills... it's just a matter of translating those intangible skills into are relevant for the job". You are right, these skills are underrated and hard to describe in your resume but really important interpersonal skills you need to work with different people. I am 50 years old, I quit my tech/pm job after working for 20 years... I am now in the phase of experimenting with different jobs for my career over the next 10 years and trying to do multiple part-time jobs of different types.
I remember watching this video last year and hoping to making this switch. Now I stumbled upon the same video again. I remember this video giving me a hope. Well, It has been almost a year since I started my job in tech industry after 5+ years in manufacturing industry. To Everybody who is still watching this video, I can say that yes it is definitely possible.
I'm 57, and even after 32 years of software development/internet engineering experience, you need to learn new things to get hired (either as an employee or an independent professional) every day every week and every year. So long as you keep that learning habits and experiences active, your actual age won't be a big deal, although ageism remains strong in many societies (especially that in Japan).
I am 44 years old and I have been working as a frontend developer for about 3 years. My previous job was completely different; in fact, I didn't even know what HTML was. I emigrated from the country where I had lived all my life to start anew in another place. It hasn't been easy at all, and I had to make many sacrifices, but I'm succeeding.
Why am I so teary-eyed watching this? This video is so on point with my life! I am currently an International Student in Canada taking up a two-year Post Grad in Mobile Application Design & Development, and this is a career transition for me after working as an Administrative Assistant for 14 years. I've learned to create mobile apps on ios, android, and as well as web. Now we're doing a hybrid using react-native. It's soooo super hard to a point that I doubt if I could ever be qualified in this industry. But ironically, I love it! I just know that after my studies I need more time and dedication into practicing and making this career a reality for me.
Hi mayuko, thanks so much for the video. I’m at my 30, 4th phd student in a non-CS major and trying to get a sde job after graduation. This video is really inspiring!
I think the hardest part is about compensation where, at later life stages, you will earn much more than average developers would earn, thus, you will become “too expensive” in comparison to other new grads or other developers in the field. I am 44, and I have been in and out of tech careers, where I realize that there are always ceilings to how much tech devs would earn. Learning and spending efforts to come back to tech careers, IMAO is not too hard at whatever ages as long as you are determined, and really dedicate your time into making it happens.
I'm really glad that I found your channel. I really need this. I just got laid off. I've been unemployed for about 6 months now and I felt so behind with friend here. I'm 27 and I'm a graduate from agriculture major. I'm trying to learn korean language and programming now. I hope this would worth it for me. Don't give up everyone!
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I am disabled, 44 years old, and have low vision. Computers are the only means of socializing available to me and as such working in tech seems impossible. Hence why I watch Mayuko's videos.
@@danainjax Would you mind telling me what you do now? I am 43 and I was a newspaper editor for a long time. But I wasn't content and media have a lot of troubles right now so I switched to IT too, a year ago. Right now I do a L2 support and I am part time analyst/web developer on the same project - they teach me. It is a great arrangement. I am really curious what is your job though. Are you a developer? Or something else? 😊
@@kikitauer sure! I work part time currently as a Customer Support Advisor while interviewing for my first post coding bootcamp developer role. I did an internship with the Collab Lab after bootcamp and am on the job hunt currently. Another interview at 4:30.
@@danainjax Omg so fingers crossed then! 🤞 Thank you for sharing that. But I am sure that you will get a job, this one or the other. And you were absolutely right, people usually don't care how old you are. I personally think it is really admirable to work on yourself the whole life.
Currently studying on my own to switch into a programming career at 38. The great thing about tech careers is how not physical they are which extends the window for anyone trying to get migrate into them at a later age. Also how you have multiple routes of gaining experience, you're not forced into a 2-4 year degree which can put all kinds of stress trying to do that while already having a established life. The road to landing your first job is just as hard for you as it would be for a younger person.
I needed to hear this as well! 42 here and left a good paying job to start studying Computer Information Systems. It is very scary and I’m worried about ageism. It’s scary because of where I come from it’s a small province in Canada and getting a job here is all about who you know, for the most part. I’m hoping that the tech field will open up many windows of opportunities and I won’t be stuck trying to get a job in my province.
I quit my still very nascent career in geology at 29 and went back to school. Fast forward a few years and I just finished a degree in electrical engineering and I'm applying for software jobs. Is it ever too late? Of course not. Is it easy? lol hell no. Do I regret making the switch? Definitely not. As for ageism... I can't really comment as far as job applications go, because no one would ever admit to rejecting you on that basis haha. But, I always felt very welcome among my peers and I literally 100% of the time I told anyone how old I was, they reacted with total surprise. So, from that I can conclude that no one really cares... and a good skin-care routine probably doesn't hurt...
I just met a guy at my university who told me he's 28(he started learning high school math at 24 and is now majoring in Math and computer science)and I swear he looks my age. My parents/grandparents have all been aging amazingly so hopefully that's how its gonna be for me😅
Really valuable. I switched to data analytics at 34. I was in sales before. It's not easy to get a break. But there are so many resources now. I grew up without internet.
this video is pretty much i needed. kinda. ive been working in architectural building field for few years since graduated but still doesn't suit me till today. so i decided to join a UI/UX course for few months later and hoping the best for my job migration into fully UI/UX designer. thankyou, wish me luck~
I'm 28 years old and a doctor. Hate it. I want to move into software engineering or bioinformatics development and leave medicine behind. Today is the day I officially mark as starting my journey. It will be long and hard (especially since I won't quit my job just yet), so wish me luck everyone!
Your content is absolutely awesome! I've been following you for a long time. This video however touched my elders in a very moving, inspirational and motivational way. I myself am already pursuing a tech career, mainly in Cybersecurity and when I saw this, just now, I had shared it with my Uncle and Auntie and they both became alive once again! It's never too late!
All your videos are great, but this is one I've needed more than once. I'm 32 and working on my BS in software development. Sometimes I think I'll never get a job after I graduate.
This is funny. I specifically DM'd you this VERY question about a year ago. You game me some advice and invited me to your discord channel. I just checked on it for the first time in a long time TODAY and this video just pops up. very syncronous!
I am 47, and I love software engineering.. I started at 24 and left college at 27, got to work finally at 30. I was laid off at 38, and at 43 I left web for native mobile development. At 47 I am learning iOS after Android.
thank you for this video! the same day that i gave my two week notice to quit my current role, i enrolled in a coding bootcamp! soooo i feel like you're speaking directly to me lol.
Hello! I’m 18 years old just graduated high school. I’ve never coded in my life but I recently started finding interest in Cs! I’ll start community college this fall, and I wanted tips on what courses I should take advantage of as a Freshman, and what programs I could use in order to get that experience I need to learn more to make classes easier. Ps. I feel silly for feeling too old to get into cs. Everyone in the comments are really inspirational I wish everyone good luck in our successful journeys ahead.
An easy way to answer is. When you ARE YOUNG without experience there's no doors that open to you. The Older you get with more experience you have endless possibilities.
I'm 39 years old this year. I have worked in data center environment for more than 15 years. Now I set myself within a year I'm gonna learn and switch my career path into tech. I'm gonna be a Blockchain devs one day!
Ageism is everywhere, regardless of the profession. On the other hand, I have seen an accountant who is still working at the age of 76. I have been struggling to start learning to coding due to a lot of disappointment in my life and wrong advises that I have taken when I should have gone the other way. I have an elderly to take care at home and I cannot leave her at home all by herself. Becoming a freelancer is my upcoming goal but I still need to prepare for a side job as a guaranteed to support my daily expenses. By the way, the KFC founder haven't started his business until he was 65.
Thank you so much for this video. I'm 34 and switching from IT Support for Development. Thank you so much for being so thoughtful to something that truly worries us, ppl during the switch. Btw is there any chance of a video of you talking to the awesome 80 years old lady? Elder talented people are so inspiring.
I'd be curious if you looked into ageism against certain kinds of experience. It seemed all your examples were people with recent qualifications on their resume. Most of the stories I've heard are about folks who were at banks or legacy companies for decades and then got laid off.
I think the reason why we are even talking about this is the fact that tech industry as we all know it is pretty young. We've been on this web/mobile/digitalize everything trend only for the past 15(20 at max) years or so? Before that tech was a pretty niche job market for big corporations with big software(like SAP). So let's calculate, what if a person decided to study IT/tech at Uni back in the days(cause there were not so many resources back then)? He would go to University at 18 in 2001-2002(when software development really become a cool kid on the block after matrix release) - so now that person would be like 38... I've got into University in 2006, and i remember all of my school friends trying to force me to choose more lucrative and perspective careers, in law/med/economics. So, yea, even in 2005-2006 it wasn't a go to career choice for most of the people. With that said - i think the further down the timeline we go, the more 50/60/70 years developers we will get.
Can you share how you did it? did you self learn? What were your primary resources? What did you find was the most job relatable skill/technology to learn for finding a job?
@@jonahtang @jonahtang Hi, I figured because I have prior experience with projects I do have tangible skills already. I needed to learn more about agile, scaled agile and IT project management/product lifecycle. I have attended different trainings and got certified. I also initially applied for a Program Coordinator role, just to get into IT from an entry level position but because I did well in the interview and answered questions about project management theory let's call it, I was offered an Associate Manager role. From what I noticed and heard from IT recruiters and hiring managers it is more about showing that you have knowledge, certificates and that you can connect the dots and come up with an answer than having a college degree. Most of times I use Coursea platform, but also tried to get as much training as possible at previous jobs to have better qualifications. Most important is to start. if there's a will there's a way :)
I’m 31 in Ontario, California, and did IT for about 5 years. I was not happy with that career, so I panicked. I recently started the Fullstack Academy bootcamp this past June 7. So far, I’ve learned the basics of HTML and CSS, loved it. Currently doing the JavaScript portion and its very challenging, but I enjoy doing this coding gig. Honestly, I think the web development journey is my calling
If i am being honest, this brought me to tears. I think the stigma has definitely gotten to me. I need to learn how to let go of using other people's rulers to measure my own skills and or success in life. I am 27 now, about 6 more months until 28. I am currently in between the idea of either software engineering or UX engineering. I think there may be some overlap but I have no clue which to go for. I think I will just have to try one and keep going until I can do both and make it into my own thing. You know what's funny? I first found your channel a little over a year ago when you showed off your HHKB-- a product I have had my eye on for quite some time. You convinced me to get one then and you have gathered people to convince me now. I hope to also start my own store as well as youtube channel when I get my money in order after getting a bootcamp or two lined up. I hope to work with you and others in this comment section one day! My linked in is: www.linkedin.com/in/ellissahuynh/ Is anyone else here currently in the same boat looking to switch careers, is between 25-29 years of age? Stuck between software engineering and and UX engineering? Let's connect!!
Its also important to define what we mean by "Tech". Getting into a programmer role is harder since you need to learn to code. You can still get in by doing a less "technical" role such as project management, scrum master, business analyst - all good roles that you can more easily jump into with a more general/corporate background.
for medicing or sports i think there is such a thing as been too old to start and have a career, but not for programming especially because you just need to know 20% of the language/framework. Basically learning how to CRUD and then going from there...
This video is something I really needed to hear as well. Making that switch into tech from a completely different and unrelated field has always been daunting and intimidating, but after hearing Dana's and Chris's stories, the fire got lit again. Thank you, Mayuko! By the way, if you're ever in Japan, let me know! I live near Tokyo :)
That's like asking are you too old to live and be happy anyone would like try new things in life if they're are physically able to life is a journey not a destination.
Yes it's never to late Howard Packard begins after retirement from US military. Software is a set of instructions it's literally how good are you at instructing whether or not you're for it
Excellent video! I've been coding now for 1year, and a half and I code every day. I work a full-time job which is very demanding, but I still code despite how I am feeling. My only issue is joining meetups and finding others who are learning to code as well or even a mentor. I basically code alone, a lone wolf of sorts. So, I really don't know how badly I suck at it. So, I am 49 now and I keep on thinking am I too old to do this? I think what is making me take so long to reach my end goal is I switched a couple of times. I went from web development with JavaScript, HTML & CSS, backend with Python and Django and finally now focused on Android with Kotlin. I guess it was kind of good. It made me realize what I enjoy, dislike, and love. I am focused on full stack at the moment. But not in the traditional sense which is JavaScript for the front and JavaScript on the back with a NoSQL database. I am focused on Android but with a Django framework which I think is an unusual combination, but I think it is working for me so far. I think I am getting close to my end goal. I just need to get good at creating an API with Django and at the present moment learning Android by creating a project. So hopefully I will be able to start applying for Android development jobs here in NYC by the end of the year or the beginning of 2024, thanks Mayuko for sharing this video.
In Europe I read articles that there have been considerable lay-offs in some big tech companies (Coinbase, Tesla ....) recently in the USA. What's going on and is the short term outlook for tech bleak?
I clicked on this video and paused it immediately to write this comment. I'm guessing this is going to be another feel good, "It's never too late" video that doesn't address much of reality. If I'm wrong, I'll come back and edit this comment.
can you please do a video for those interested in tech but don’t know what path to take? i am interested in tech however don’t you what exactly I want truth
Im 33. Im mexican. Im a former civil engineer that is transitioning into data analysis. Im finishing a bootcamp and studying on my own. I wanna migrate to the USA. Do any people have suggestions?
I’m 21 I been studying the field of tech and different careers in it, and the more I learn the more questions I hve I still have no clue what do developers do in a job can someone explain or point me to a video
dont go into tech if you dont have a growth mindset and not willing to learn. Tech is evolving at a rapid pace so you need to be in constant curiosity to learn in order to catch up with the latest technology, processes, etc.
I've got a spicy take that your video just helped me process.
So, I'm 40. 22 Years ago I entered college with a 4-yr scholarship ready to become a 'computer scientist'. For some reason I thought this would guide me into the wonderful world of making Playstation 2 games. I was wrong, VERY wrong. I couldn't cut it. I hated math. And switched majors [graduated with an Art degree but minored in Comp Sci & Entomology].
A lot of my friends called me a 'tech guy' because I was good with cameras and lenses. But I wasn't very good at videography or photography. I kinda looked back at college as a traumatic experience. A failure. I worked really crappy jobs and learned how folks with money treat folks with no money and are barely making it.
After working in a book store that turned into a warehouse for Amazon for about ... 13 years. I got laid off. Ended up getting temp work for a medtech logistics company. I was good on the phones, but I kept looking over the shoulders of the young data analysts and software engineers figuring out which apps they were using.
Then one day, they all quit. And my boss asked me to write simple queries to pull data every morning.
Then covid hit. And, for some reason, I felt inspired to learn as much as I can about coding languages because "the world is ending...why not?"
Now they're calling me a back-end dev/data scientist. I said all of that to say. It's never too late y'all. Life can really kick you in the teeth, but you gotta pick yourself up.
Thanks for sharing your journey! Inspiring
And that's what's wrong with the IT industry. There are many examples like you who were pushed to do some sort of IT related "tasks" and all of a sudden they get slapped with "data scientist" label! For small companies where there are only quick tasks that needed at some point, doing these sort of ad hoc work might make sense, since I don't suppose companies can afford a full time employee or hire others to do these kind of work (if they are smart, they will take a look at the whole information need holistically).
@@demonwaterdemonwater4993 I've since worked on four games and am an art & tech lead for an in development indie game. I've even done VO work for a few games. Love being a game dev, but that wasn't my initial path. And my passion is data science.
just out of curiosity, why did they all quit at once?
@@marnenotmarnie259 They technically didn't. One kinda setup the other [office politics]. But the long and short of it, is the senior DA told the subordinate it was okay to create their own server to create & pull reports from. The subordinate does that, pulls a report that was skewered in front of executives resulting in the subordinate's firing.
The senior DA sees this as an opportunity to ask for a raise [about a month later] since his tasks just doubled. He doesn't get the number he asks for and immediately bounced to a better opportunity.
You have no idea how much I needed this video. I'm 28, I've been in tech for a while but never really been in software engineering. Today will be the first time I'll have a job interview in software engineering. Wish me luck. 😅
Good luck 🙌
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Thank you all guys!
Thank you for this video! I'm 42 years old, disabled and I just started a data analysis Boot Camp, hearing the stories gave me a lot more confidence to know that I can do this, and that this is the right thing for me. Thank you!
That's is great man. Wishing you all the best.
@@khaingmye7353 thank you!
You can do it! Wish you all the best on your way, keep us posted!
I'm about to turn 43 and just graduated with my BA in Information systems in 2021. I came from a background in the medical field. I'm not ready to look for a job in my preferred field as a Data Analyst but I am steady learning and building a good portfolio for when I am ready. It is scary switching careers in your 40's but some people do get burnt out and need a change. I really enjoyed listening to Dana.
Im coming from a medical field too!
As a SELF-TAUGHT JavaScript developer, I started studying code in my 20s, but seriously at the age of 30.
I started with Html, css, and js ... then I decided to learn React - React Native and over time Tailwind and other stuff. Today I am 34 years old, and I can say that it is not easy, for me being a developer means solving problems and therefore improving things. It means, never stop learning, and if you insist, with commitment, you can reach incredible companies. Be wary of those who say that in a few months, you can learn languages and find a job, it's difficult, so it takes a long time ... Remember, it's a marathon.
Nice video, as always, Mayuko 😊
Can you mentor me? Please 🙏
I’m 41 and legally blind. I transitioned into tech from liberal arts 5 years ago. I now have a successful job as a Software Developer in Test, and I’m now trying to transition into Product. So yeah, it’s never too late.
Hope this inspires you. I quite my job at the age of 27 during the pandemic. After 1 year and a half of self study and bootcamp, I finally have a solo project to put on my resume and started applying jobs. After two months and 100 applications, 5 responded, interviewed with all 5 of them, I’m lucky to get 1 job offer at last. Persistence, patience, hard work and practice are the keys and maybe a little bit of luck. Don’t give up, everyone!!
Did you pay for a bootcamp?
@@liz4775 yes
can i ask, what resources did you use for self study?
38 no CS degree, no math background, no IT experience. Bootcamp + self study; got a junior devops job :) But yes it was NOT easy!
Hey there! Curious what boot camp did you go through and what did you find was critical in job placement?
いつも素敵な動画ありがとうございます！とても刺激になる内容でした！
I learned coding by myself and changed my job from product manager to software engineer a few years ago.
I was actually excited about pursuing what I want to do in my life but also feeling a bit fear at the time.
People around me said to me that I should not try to do that because I had certain skills and position.
Like she said in this interview, I just focused on hearing my honest voice in my mind and followed it.
I bravely chose not to accept any advice from other people. Now I'm doing so well and appreciate my decision so much.
Sorry it's just my experience but from my point of view, I think this video help lots of people and I wanted to watch this before my decision😂.
Thanks for your great video, I always enjoy your contents and those made me today for sure. Appreciation from Japan!
Switched at 32 from project management and I have never been happier! Wish I had done it earlier 😃
38 year old here, had years of experience in teaching and retail. And in 2021, I got more interested in tech, particularly data analytics. Because I don't want to have another public facing job again (it's a struggle if you are introverted) and I want to use my brain more in thinking and problem solving so I wanted to enter tech. Quit my job and currently honing myself in SQL and R. Hopefully, I would be able to land a job in tech soon.
Thank you for this video. I am actually feeling a bit down today because I have been applying jobs and got rejected so many times. I am still trying. This video gave me a bit of an uplift for today, so thank you.
Hi cris, hey, what about learning python and libraries and resources that go with it? If you get passionable about it with r and python you're going to be hirable for way more jobs and your range and resilience will improve a lot! Is this of any use to you? Cheers from sunny Brazil!
I second what he said, Python is better than R for job prospects.
same here! i've acquired a few years of exp in client facing/servicing under my belt but deep down inside i know it's not my true calling, dealing with the whims and caprices of people as an introvert. currently pondering the switch to some career that has less to do with humans, and tech seems to fit the bill. really wish you all the best for the journey ahead! it's gonna be tough contending with all the bright kids just fresh out of college, but still worth a shot. efforts and hard work can translate to success irrespective of age.
Thanks for the replies. I actually decided to take on Python and keep R on the side for the meantime. All the best everyone!
Don't give up. I know graduated young people at their 20's got so many rejection. I know someone who made 200 applications he gor 11 interviews and got a job as a software developer for 50k starting salary. Make a good cv and keep applying.
Love it, thank you for the video. I actually learned some very basic coding at 21 while doing an art degree. I quit because of health reasons. I am now studying digital media design and 41 years old. I love coding and it really makes me feel happy. And there are a million things you can do with it. Sometimes it can get daunting, but watching your videos help.
Yo thank you for this!! I’m 31 and I’ve been applying for a ux design job for the past year and still no luck. This really assured me to keep trying.
keep persisting. I've been studying coding for 4 years and I still haven't finished my com sci degree. yet, I have no intention of stopping.
Dana is amazing and I'm so glad I got the privilege to work with her! So happy you got her on to share her story~
I graduated with a degree in Information Systems in 2020. I’m still in my early 20s, but I couldn’t get a job without any experience. I’m getting my start in finance at a bank first. Hopefully I’ll be able to make the switch into the field I intended to start in. I’ve heard horror stories about tech companies not wanting people over 30. This was a great interview.
don't stop pursuing your dream man.
those are their stories, you write your own story. I would recommend learning skills within your job to leverage your skills towards what industry you want. 30 is young lol. And fyi, no one really knows how old you are, and it is illegal to 'openly' discriminate you based on age. Good luck.
@@KhaosAtom thank you ! I wanted to start in database administration since that’s what I mostly studied. I will be adding more projects to my portfolio so I’ll have something to show when I’m ready to transition.
Mayuko-san, thank you for creating this video. I think this is good for everyone who wants to try new things in a new role regardless of the type of industry they want to get into. I particularly liked your comment about "you are coming in with a lot of great skills... it's just a matter of translating those intangible skills into are relevant for the job". You are right, these skills are underrated and hard to describe in your resume but really important interpersonal skills you need to work with different people. I am 50 years old, I quit my tech/pm job after working for 20 years... I am now in the phase of experimenting with different jobs for my career over the next 10 years and trying to do multiple part-time jobs of different types.
I remember watching this video last year and hoping to making this switch. Now I stumbled upon the same video again. I remember this video giving me a hope. Well, It has been almost a year since I started my job in tech industry after 5+ years in manufacturing industry. To Everybody who is still watching this video, I can say that yes it is definitely possible.
I'm 57, and even after 32 years of software development/internet engineering experience, you need to learn new things to get hired (either as an employee or an independent professional) every day every week and every year. So long as you keep that learning habits and experiences active, your actual age won't be a big deal, although ageism remains strong in many societies (especially that in Japan).
learning never stops for programmers. sorry to hear about ageism. keep striving. Mr. Rikitake.
yeah,we all know Eastern Asia sucks, especially to women’ age!
@UClCL-_av6VzH7WoTEhiyNQw I think it depends on the hiring budget.
I am 44 years old and I have been working as a frontend developer for about 3 years. My previous job was completely different; in fact, I didn't even know what HTML was. I emigrated from the country where I had lived all my life to start anew in another place. It hasn't been easy at all, and I had to make many sacrifices, but I'm succeeding.
Why am I so teary-eyed watching this? This video is so on point with my life! I am currently an International Student in Canada taking up a two-year Post Grad in Mobile Application Design & Development, and this is a career transition for me after working as an Administrative Assistant for 14 years. I've learned to create mobile apps on ios, android, and as well as web. Now we're doing a hybrid using react-native. It's soooo super hard to a point that I doubt if I could ever be qualified in this industry. But ironically, I love it! I just know that after my studies I need more time and dedication into practicing and making this career a reality for me.
Hi mayuko, thanks so much for the video. I’m at my 30, 4th phd student in a non-CS major and trying to get a sde job after graduation. This video is really inspiring!
I think the hardest part is about compensation where, at later life stages, you will earn much more than average developers would earn, thus, you will become “too expensive” in comparison to other new grads or other developers in the field. I am 44, and I have been in and out of tech careers, where I realize that there are always ceilings to how much tech devs would earn. Learning and spending efforts to come back to tech careers, IMAO is not too hard at whatever ages as long as you are determined, and really dedicate your time into making it happens.
I'm really glad that I found your channel. I really need this. I just got laid off. I've been unemployed for about 6 months now and I felt so behind with friend here. I'm 27 and I'm a graduate from agriculture major. I'm trying to learn korean language and programming now. I hope this would worth it for me. Don't give up everyone!
I am disabled, 44 years old, and have low vision. Computers are the only means of socializing available to me and as such working in tech seems impossible. Hence why I watch Mayuko's videos.
Great video. I’m 50 (at the end of the month) and this is exactly what I was wondering about. Thanks!
I really admire Dana. What a queen! 🤩
thanks so much, Kiki. This was a great conversation with Mayuko and nice to meet you!
@@danainjax Would you mind telling me what you do now? I am 43 and I was a newspaper editor for a long time. But I wasn't content and media have a lot of troubles right now so I switched to IT too, a year ago. Right now I do a L2 support and I am part time analyst/web developer on the same project - they teach me. It is a great arrangement. I am really curious what is your job though. Are you a developer? Or something else? 😊
@@kikitauer sure! I work part time currently as a Customer Support Advisor while interviewing for my first post coding bootcamp developer role. I did an internship with the Collab Lab after bootcamp and am on the job hunt currently. Another interview at 4:30.
@@danainjax Omg so fingers crossed then! 🤞 Thank you for sharing that. But I am sure that you will get a job, this one or the other. And you were absolutely right, people usually don't care how old you are. I personally think it is really admirable to work on yourself the whole life.
Currently studying on my own to switch into a programming career at 38. The great thing about tech careers is how not physical they are which extends the window for anyone trying to get migrate into them at a later age. Also how you have multiple routes of gaining experience, you're not forced into a 2-4 year degree which can put all kinds of stress trying to do that while already having a established life. The road to landing your first job is just as hard for you as it would be for a younger person.
I needed to hear this as well! 42 here and left a good paying job to start studying Computer Information Systems. It is very scary and I’m worried about ageism. It’s scary because of where I come from it’s a small province in Canada and getting a job here is all about who you know, for the most part. I’m hoping that the tech field will open up many windows of opportunities and I won’t be stuck trying to get a job in my province.
I quit my still very nascent career in geology at 29 and went back to school. Fast forward a few years and I just finished a degree in electrical engineering and I'm applying for software jobs. Is it ever too late? Of course not. Is it easy? lol hell no. Do I regret making the switch? Definitely not.
As for ageism... I can't really comment as far as job applications go, because no one would ever admit to rejecting you on that basis haha. But, I always felt very welcome among my peers and I literally 100% of the time I told anyone how old I was, they reacted with total surprise. So, from that I can conclude that no one really cares... and a good skin-care routine probably doesn't hurt...
I just met a guy at my university who told me he's 28(he started learning high school math at 24 and is now majoring in Math and computer science)and I swear he looks my age. My parents/grandparents have all been aging amazingly so hopefully that's how its gonna be for me😅
Really valuable. I switched to data analytics at 34. I was in sales before. It's not easy to get a break. But there are so many resources now. I grew up without internet.
this video is pretty much i needed. kinda.
ive been working in architectural building field for few years since graduated but still doesn't suit me till today.
so i decided to join a UI/UX course for few months later and hoping the best for my job migration into fully UI/UX designer.
thankyou, wish me luck~
I'm 28 years old and a doctor. Hate it. I want to move into software engineering or bioinformatics development and leave medicine behind. Today is the day I officially mark as starting my journey. It will be long and hard (especially since I won't quit my job just yet), so wish me luck everyone!
Interesting! Electronic engineer here thinking on study medicine. Why did you choose this major?
Your content is absolutely awesome! I've been following you for a long time. This video however touched my elders in a very moving, inspirational and motivational way. I myself am already pursuing a tech career, mainly in Cybersecurity and when I saw this, just now, I had shared it with my Uncle and Auntie and they both became alive once again! It's never too late!
Dana is an absolute legend
BIG SMILE. Thanks for the compliment and great to "meet" you vulpixelful
Love Dana too! Both are great!
All your videos are great, but this is one I've needed more than once. I'm 32 and working on my BS in software development. Sometimes I think I'll never get a job after I graduate.
This is funny. I specifically DM'd you this VERY question about a year ago. You game me some advice and invited me to your discord channel. I just checked on it for the first time in a long time TODAY and this video just pops up. very syncronous!
I am 47, and I love software engineering.. I started at 24 and left college at 27, got to work finally at 30. I was laid off at 38, and at 43 I left web for native mobile development. At 47 I am learning iOS after Android.
thank you for this video! the same day that i gave my two week notice to quit my current role, i enrolled in a coding bootcamp! soooo i feel like you're speaking directly to me lol.
Hello! I’m 18 years old just graduated high school. I’ve never coded in my life but I recently started finding interest in Cs! I’ll start community college this fall, and I wanted tips on what courses I should take advantage of as a Freshman, and what programs I could use in order to get that experience I need to learn more to make classes easier.
Ps.
I feel silly for feeling too old to get into cs. Everyone in the comments are really inspirational I wish everyone good luck in our successful journeys ahead.
bruh ur only 18 dont feel too old there are like 30 year olds who are just getting into coding we are still really young (im 18 aswell).
An easy way to answer is.
When you ARE YOUNG without experience there's no doors that open to you.
The Older you get with more experience you have endless possibilities.
I needed this today, Thanks for this video!
I'm 39 years old this year. I have worked in data center environment for more than 15 years. Now I set myself within a year I'm gonna learn and switch my career path into tech. I'm gonna be a Blockchain devs one day!
Thanks for this video! I really needed to see this!
Great interviews - love Dana's approach to learning also.
Hi Sam! Thanks so much. Every day is a new one to learn something new!
Ageism is everywhere, regardless of the profession.
On the other hand, I have seen an accountant who is still working at the age of 76.
I have been struggling to start learning to coding due to a lot of disappointment in my life and wrong advises that I have taken when I should have gone the other way.
I have an elderly to take care at home and I cannot leave her at home all by herself.
Becoming a freelancer is my upcoming goal but I still need to prepare for a side job as a guaranteed to support my daily expenses.
By the way, the KFC founder haven't started his business until he was 65.
thank you Mrs, YOU ARE AMAZING
i love this so so much!! 🧡
you guys are so inspiring, thank you so much! 🙏🏼🥰
had been an accountant for 5 years. recently graduated with cs master degree at 32 and just started as entry swe 2 months ago
Thank you so much for this video. I'm 34 and switching from IT Support for Development. Thank you so much for being so thoughtful to something that truly worries us, ppl during the switch. Btw is there any chance of a video of you talking to the awesome 80 years old lady? Elder talented people are so inspiring.
Thanks for making this video! I’m trying to make the switch this year. 💪🏻😄
I'd be curious if you looked into ageism against certain kinds of experience. It seemed all your examples were people with recent qualifications on their resume. Most of the stories I've heard are about folks who were at banks or legacy companies for decades and then got laid off.
It's never to late to fullfill your dreams....
48 here, started my career in 1999... still going strong 😀
You're never to old. The problem is people. Hiring managers will discriminate against you because you're old.
Thank you so much it is very valuable... I needed to watch this.
I guess the biggest hurdle for anyone doing a career switch of any sort is that you'll have to start all over again at the bottom, or so I believe.
Formation is on every video goddamn…. A lot of marketing on these videos now
I think the reason why we are even talking about this is the fact that tech industry as we all know it is pretty young. We've been on this web/mobile/digitalize everything trend only for the past 15(20 at max) years or so? Before that tech was a pretty niche job market for big corporations with big software(like SAP). So let's calculate, what if a person decided to study IT/tech at Uni back in the days(cause there were not so many resources back then)? He would go to University at 18 in 2001-2002(when software development really become a cool kid on the block after matrix release) - so now that person would be like 38...
I've got into University in 2006, and i remember all of my school friends trying to force me to choose more lucrative and perspective careers, in law/med/economics. So, yea, even in 2005-2006 it wasn't a go to career choice for most of the people.
With that said - i think the further down the timeline we go, the more 50/60/70 years developers we will get.
Thank you very much for this video...
I switched at 37, after 16 years in civil engineering/renewable energy :) I prepared for it and here I am :)
Can you share how you did it? did you self learn? What were your primary resources? What did you find was the most job relatable skill/technology to learn for finding a job?
@@jonahtang @jonahtang Hi, I figured because I have prior experience with projects I do have tangible skills already. I needed to learn more about agile, scaled agile and IT project management/product lifecycle. I have attended different trainings and got certified. I also initially applied for a Program Coordinator role, just to get into IT from an entry level position but because I did well in the interview and answered questions about project management theory let's call it, I was offered an Associate Manager role. From what I noticed and heard from IT recruiters and hiring managers it is more about showing that you have knowledge, certificates and that you can connect the dots and come up with an answer than having a college degree. Most of times I use Coursea platform, but also tried to get as much training as possible at previous jobs to have better qualifications. Most important is to start. if there's a will there's a way :)
Got it! Thank you for sharing!! Sounds like your position is as a project manager? Not a developer?
Correct! Plenty of tech jobs not related to programming :)
Always appreciate these videos
I’m 31 in Ontario, California, and did IT for about 5 years. I was not happy with that career, so I panicked. I recently started the Fullstack Academy bootcamp this past June 7. So far, I’ve learned the basics of HTML and CSS, loved it. Currently doing the JavaScript portion and its very challenging, but I enjoy doing this coding gig. Honestly, I think the web development journey is my calling
Way to go, Dan! 👍
If i am being honest, this brought me to tears. I think the stigma has definitely gotten to me. I need to learn how to let go of using other people's rulers to measure my own skills and or success in life. I am 27 now, about 6 more months until 28. I am currently in between the idea of either software engineering or UX engineering. I think there may be some overlap but I have no clue which to go for. I think I will just have to try one and keep going until I can do both and make it into my own thing.
You know what's funny? I first found your channel a little over a year ago when you showed off your HHKB-- a product I have had my eye on for quite some time. You convinced me to get one then and you have gathered people to convince me now. I hope to also start my own store as well as youtube channel when I get my money in order after getting a bootcamp or two lined up.
I hope to work with you and others in this comment section one day! My linked in is: www.linkedin.com/in/ellissahuynh/ Is anyone else here currently in the same boat looking to switch careers, is between 25-29 years of age? Stuck between software engineering and and UX engineering? Let's connect!!
Never too old, but yes, your journey will be super hard if you started at 40.
Why will my journey be here if I’m starting at 40?
Its also important to define what we mean by "Tech". Getting into a programmer role is harder since you need to learn to code. You can still get in by doing a less "technical" role such as project management, scrum master, business analyst - all good roles that you can more easily jump into with a more general/corporate background.
for medicing or sports i think there is such a thing as been too old to start and have a career, but not for programming especially because you just need to know 20% of the language/framework. Basically learning how to CRUD and then going from there...
Yes I am.
This video is something I really needed to hear as well. Making that switch into tech from a completely different and unrelated field has always been daunting and intimidating, but after hearing Dana's and Chris's stories, the fire got lit again. Thank you, Mayuko! By the way, if you're ever in Japan, let me know! I live near Tokyo :)
Basically yes and no. Depends on the company and your background. Do what you can to get the job!
im 98 and i cant shit by myself, gonna start learning that node js....
:)
That's like asking are you too old to live and be happy anyone would like try new things in life if they're are physically able to life is a journey not a destination.
Yes it's never to late Howard Packard begins after retirement from US military. Software is a set of instructions it's literally how good are you at instructing whether or not you're for it
This is super quality content
41 here .. we still we do programming.
nice vid, apart from this can u share your haircare routine, they look so pristine
Let's be honest, many companies use age as one of the first filters. Common practice in the HR world?
I am 37 years old, and just finished my computer science degree last week...
Thanks, needed this motivation ahahah. Even tho I'm not even old old
9:26 A reminder to myself
Wheres my "MUKO" merch? 😤
Excellent video! I've been coding now for 1year, and a half and I code every day. I work a full-time job which is very demanding, but I still code despite how I am feeling. My only issue is joining meetups and finding others who are learning to code as well or even a mentor. I basically code alone, a lone wolf of sorts. So, I really don't know how badly I suck at it. So, I am 49 now and I keep on thinking am I too old to do this?
I think what is making me take so long to reach my end goal is I switched a couple of times. I went from web development with JavaScript, HTML & CSS, backend with Python and Django and finally now focused on Android with Kotlin.
I guess it was kind of good. It made me realize what I enjoy, dislike, and love. I am focused on full stack at the moment. But not in the traditional sense which is JavaScript for the front and JavaScript on the back with a NoSQL database. I am focused on Android but with a Django framework which I think is an unusual combination, but I think it is working for me so far. I think I am getting close to my end goal. I just need to get good at creating an API with Django and at the present moment learning Android by creating a project. So hopefully I will be able to start applying for Android development jobs here in NYC by the end of the year or the beginning of 2024, thanks Mayuko for sharing this video.
Thanks!
Awesome! , Motivational!!
In Europe I read articles that there have been considerable lay-offs in some big tech companies (Coinbase, Tesla ....) recently in the USA. What's going on and is the short term outlook for tech bleak?
top. thx.
I clicked on this video and paused it immediately to write this comment. I'm guessing this is going to be another feel good, "It's never too late" video that doesn't address much of reality. If I'm wrong, I'll come back and edit this comment.
V interesting video!
Honestly I'm 26 and I feel old in tech
Old? Most people don't graduate college until age 22. How could 26 be old in tech?
Feel the same
can you please do a video for those interested in tech but don’t know what path to take? i am interested in tech however don’t you what exactly I want truth
How does someone start as a tech recruiter (switching from a completely unrelated field)?
Good job
Im 33. Im mexican. Im a former civil engineer that is transitioning into data analysis. Im finishing a bootcamp and studying on my own. I wanna migrate to the USA. Do any people have suggestions?
thank u muko
never been so early!
I saw two views!!😂😂😂
They didn’t tell how they become developer?
Bootcamp or any other way?
I’m 21 I been studying the field of tech and different careers in it, and the more I learn the more questions I hve I still have no clue what do developers do in a job can someone explain or point me to a video
Please formation answer my application. Even with a negative answer.
Hi Blenda! Sorry we haven't responded to you, looking into this now!
like your shirt
feeding the YT algo
dont go into tech if you dont have a growth mindset and not willing to learn.
Tech is evolving at a rapid pace so you need to be in constant curiosity to learn in order to catch up with the latest technology, processes, etc.