I arrived on Michigan State’s campus in June of 2014 to start summer workouts, exactly a decade ago. Josh is right about nobody being able to predict these changes, it was completely different back then. Let me also say, it was undeniably much better. I hope the sport is in a better place in 2034 than it is right now.
@@jayandrusiakthat's not accurate because Michigan St very likely had an 8 or 9 win team potential but MSU admin pulled the plug after game 2. All because of a phone call??? Yeah not a good look ethically but most people didn't care about that incident.
My CFB days were in the 2000s and I'm glad I got to experience that version. It was more fun. And this coming from a guy who never even saw the field. I wouldn't change it either. It may be more financially beneficial now, but there is no doubt in my mind that players now get way less out of it aside from the money.
Hopefully the changes are: 1) Protect the pagentry and traditions that make cfb unique and special. 2) Reduce the conferences back down to 12 teams max. 3) Reign in NIL through revenue sharing; paying players a set amount. 4) limit portal transfers to 1 per player for their entire 4 year undergrad career and 1 more if eligible as a grad student.
Augh I'm glad someone out there finally mentioned how pitiful bowl season has become. I know Josh goes on to say it ain't meaningless to him, but I can guess inside he knows those matchups are duds. That one is such an easy fix though, push the portal window, and disincentivize sitting out (payment for the year is contingent upon being available for your coach to play you ever game you're eligible and healthy for, though god knows we'd see a whole bunch of lower extremity injuries crop up around November). I think I made it through six bowl games last year before I gave up. The entire telecast was taken up by announcing who was missing, what team had more starters on the field, and looking forward to next year. They were glorified spring games, but with even less at stake. I think beyond anything else that's happened this is the most depressing development. I don't love realignment, but at least that gives us annual matchups like OSU-USC, Texas-Georgia, hell even the possibility of Nebraska-Oregon. NIL just levels the playing field for a lot of teams, and if you don't like players getting paid, but you were fine with coaches and school presidents getting paid that's a you problem. I'd like the money to be out of it completely, but greed dictated otherwise. Everything else has some sort of silver lining, but the adverse affects on bowl season are just bad for the sport. It's bad for the business because nobody gives a crap, it's bad for fans because bowl season used to be so exciting. I mean granted realignment took care of most of the things we wanted out of bowl season, most particularly top tier teams being forced to match up with someone outside of their conference (why do we still allow teams to schedule Tennessee State Tech Jr?).
I've been a college football megafan since the early 1980's. There were some significant changes from 1984 through 2014 (teams switching conferences, Nebraska and Miami going from top-flight to irrelevant, the extinction of the Big East), but the pace of change in the past decade has increased radically.
I can tell you one thing that will never happen again (unless it actually happens IN a playoff game). A one-loss SEC team is never going to miss the 12-team playoff. One (regular-season) defeat will NOT put an end to your national title hopes. *** Clark kicked a 40-yard field goal and suddenly, Florida led, 21-20. Undefeated Georgia now was in real danger of a defeat and an end to its national title hopes. Seven minutes remained. But the Bulldogs were unable to get anything going and had to punt the ball back to the Gators with less than six minutes remaining. Florida then ate up more than four minutes of the remaining time with a slow march from its 31 to the Georgia 40. And when Mark Dickert punted out of bounds on the Georgia eight with only one minute, 35 seconds remaining, the Bulldogs appeared to be buried. *** Incidentally, what game is that from?
Bold takes for the next 10 years, players will become employees of the schools via signing an official contract, football will be completely separated from all other sports, we will go back to regional divsions with two major conferences - North and South, there will be one central body overseeing it, and a player will sue that they cannot age out. Therefore, you will start to see players stay on longer than 4 years, and CFB will realize, why are we voluntarily giving our best players right to this other league for free and will compete directly with the NFL. This will threaten the NFL and they will look to have ownership over the central CFB governing body.
Maybe not Jerry but it WAS 2014 when Ed O’Bannon filed suit against the NCAA for NIL. So 10 years ago this month, we started the path to the train wreck it is today and a few people were worried what would happen IF it was successful
I love Josh & the show but I will die on this hill He doesn't understand why Opt outs began to happen Around 2011 that's when the NFL slowly saw the increase around discussions about the value of the running back. Mark Ingram was the only back taken at 28th in the first round 2012 came and saw Marcus Lattimore of South Carolina get his knee paper mached on a tackle & he never played again 2013 & 2014 saw no running backs taken in the first round Around this team the injury worries + issues around getting a 2nd contract were hitting a crescendo Now fast forward to the first two opt outs...wait for it.... RUNNING BACKS In Christian McCaffrey and Leonard Fournette, who both were projected to go top 10 (and did) and had discussions around injury concerns going in It had absolutely nothing to do with College football at all, the playoff was not the issue. Life lessons for anyone out here folks, just because something seems obvious after the fact doesnt mean we see it. It took opt outs of the first 2 high profile players for others to realize "hey, yeah why am i out here risking injury?" Kobe / Demar don't exist in the NBA without MJ, it only takes one to spark what could be
Oh, horsefeathers. I found some of the bowl games last year highly entertaining. The Celebration bowl, the New Orleans Bowl and the Cure Bowl -- all on the same day -- got the bowl season off to a great start. The Toastery Bowl was amazing -- WKU storming back from 28 down to win in OT. Seeing Georgia Tech break through and win a bowl game after they had plunged into the depths for several years was heartening (if you're a Tech fan.) The Birmingham Bowl, Camellia Bowl and Las Vegas Bowl were tense and exciting. Seeing Kansas and UNLV -- two teams that are more basketball than football schools, usually -- play each other (and produce a shootout!) was amazing. The Quick Lane Bowl was a fun one. Texas A&M actually competed well without Dumbf*** Fisher there to ruin them with his imbecility and arrogance. The Alamo Bowl and Fenway Bowl featured fourth-quarter comeback wins. Rutgers won their bowl game, showing promise for the future. In a top-10 matchup, Missouri staged a fourth-quarter rally to come from behind and take down tOSU. Clemson and Kentucky put on an offensive showcase. Wyoming sent their retiring coach out on a high note with a 1-point come-from-behind victory. LSU and Wisconsin put on another thrilling shootout. And that was all BEFORE we got to the CFP itself, which had two amazing semifinals. Okay, so I actually found MOST of the bowl games last year highly entertaining. I didn't realize there were so many good ones until I actually looked back at the bowl schedule.
Like the movie the The Last Boy Scout we are witnessing the death of college football lady and gents the amount of money it take to build a stadium is going up every day and at the end of the day the fan enjoy going out to Florida California and Texas to watch there team in a bowl game but when the the best players don’t play in those games the average fan isn’t going to go to the game let alone pay some ridiculous ticket price. The bottom line is greed is killing the sport!
Yeah, if only the players were properly compensated for the work/risk that it take to play a game of football at a high level. I mean considering siting out costs them zero dollars while playing could cost them millions if they get injured. Like they don't even get workers comp so if they get permently paralized they could never walk again and have to just live off government disability and the kindness of others. That's before all the long term brain damage sustained every single game.
Alabama sucked horse d*** from about 1997 through 2007. (Mike DuBose, Dennis Franchione and Mike Shula were the coaches: 2007 was Saban's first year, and he couldn't fix all the problems instantly. It took him until 2008, his second year, to get the program back to where it had been under Gene Stallings.)
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I arrived on Michigan State’s campus in June of 2014 to start summer workouts, exactly a decade ago. Josh is right about nobody being able to predict these changes, it was completely different back then. Let me also say, it was undeniably much better. I hope the sport is in a better place in 2034 than it is right now.
There will not be football in 2035 because of greed
It definitely hasn’t been kind to MSU, Tucker definitely set that program backwards
@@jayandrusiakthat's not accurate because Michigan St very likely had an 8 or 9 win team potential but MSU admin pulled the plug after game 2. All because of a phone call??? Yeah not a good look ethically but most people didn't care about that incident.
My CFB days were in the 2000s and I'm glad I got to experience that version. It was more fun. And this coming from a guy who never even saw the field. I wouldn't change it either. It may be more financially beneficial now, but there is no doubt in my mind that players now get way less out of it aside from the money.
Hopefully the changes are: 1) Protect the pagentry and traditions that make cfb unique and special. 2) Reduce the conferences back down to 12 teams max. 3) Reign in NIL through revenue sharing; paying players a set amount. 4) limit portal transfers to 1 per player for their entire 4 year undergrad career and 1 more if eligible as a grad student.
Augh I'm glad someone out there finally mentioned how pitiful bowl season has become. I know Josh goes on to say it ain't meaningless to him, but I can guess inside he knows those matchups are duds. That one is such an easy fix though, push the portal window, and disincentivize sitting out (payment for the year is contingent upon being available for your coach to play you ever game you're eligible and healthy for, though god knows we'd see a whole bunch of lower extremity injuries crop up around November).
I think I made it through six bowl games last year before I gave up. The entire telecast was taken up by announcing who was missing, what team had more starters on the field, and looking forward to next year. They were glorified spring games, but with even less at stake. I think beyond anything else that's happened this is the most depressing development.
I don't love realignment, but at least that gives us annual matchups like OSU-USC, Texas-Georgia, hell even the possibility of Nebraska-Oregon. NIL just levels the playing field for a lot of teams, and if you don't like players getting paid, but you were fine with coaches and school presidents getting paid that's a you problem. I'd like the money to be out of it completely, but greed dictated otherwise. Everything else has some sort of silver lining, but the adverse affects on bowl season are just bad for the sport. It's bad for the business because nobody gives a crap, it's bad for fans because bowl season used to be so exciting. I mean granted realignment took care of most of the things we wanted out of bowl season, most particularly top tier teams being forced to match up with someone outside of their conference (why do we still allow teams to schedule Tennessee State Tech Jr?).
I've been a college football megafan since the early 1980's. There were some significant changes from 1984 through 2014 (teams switching conferences, Nebraska and Miami going from top-flight to irrelevant, the extinction of the Big East), but the pace of change in the past decade has increased radically.
We need your Top 10 Programs to Rebuild for NCAA 24 coming out next month … varying the level of play from C-USA to SEC
This would be just coming off the collapse of the big east. 😢 miss y’all - Louisville fan
Not a fan of any Big East school, but as a fan of college ball, I do miss the hell out of that conference!
I can tell you one thing that will never happen again (unless it actually happens IN a playoff game). A one-loss SEC team is never going to miss the 12-team playoff. One (regular-season) defeat will NOT put an end to your national title hopes.
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Clark kicked a 40-yard field goal and suddenly, Florida led, 21-20.
Undefeated Georgia now was in real danger of a defeat and an end to its national title hopes. Seven minutes remained. But the Bulldogs were unable to get anything going and had to punt the ball back to the Gators with less than six minutes remaining.
Florida then ate up more than four minutes of the remaining time with a slow march from its 31 to the Georgia 40. And when Mark Dickert punted out of bounds on the Georgia eight with only one minute, 35 seconds remaining, the Bulldogs appeared to be buried.
***
Incidentally, what game is that from?
Bold takes for the next 10 years, players will become employees of the schools via signing an official contract, football will be completely separated from all other sports, we will go back to regional divsions with two major conferences - North and South, there will be one central body overseeing it, and a player will sue that they cannot age out. Therefore, you will start to see players stay on longer than 4 years, and CFB will realize, why are we voluntarily giving our best players right to this other league for free and will compete directly with the NFL. This will threaten the NFL and they will look to have ownership over the central CFB governing body.
Maybe not Jerry but it WAS 2014 when Ed O’Bannon filed suit against the NCAA for NIL. So 10 years ago this month, we started the path to the train wreck it is today and a few people were worried what would happen IF it was successful
There may be no cfb in 10 years. Will be replaced by an nfl farm system like baseball has.
Segment idea... last place projection for each conference! I want to see you kick the hornets nests.
I love Josh & the show but I will die on this hill
He doesn't understand why Opt outs began to happen
Around 2011 that's when the NFL slowly saw the increase around discussions about the value of the running back. Mark Ingram was the only back taken at 28th in the first round
2012 came and saw Marcus Lattimore of South Carolina get his knee paper mached on a tackle & he never played again
2013 & 2014 saw no running backs taken in the first round
Around this team the injury worries + issues around getting a 2nd contract were hitting a crescendo
Now fast forward to the first two opt outs...wait for it.... RUNNING BACKS
In Christian McCaffrey and Leonard Fournette, who both were projected to go top 10 (and did) and had discussions around injury concerns going in
It had absolutely nothing to do with College football at all, the playoff was not the issue.
Life lessons for anyone out here folks, just because something seems obvious after the fact doesnt mean we see it. It took opt outs of the first 2 high profile players for others to realize "hey, yeah why am i out here risking injury?"
Kobe / Demar don't exist in the NBA without MJ, it only takes one to spark what could be
“It’s gone😮”
I’m from 2037, cfb ceased to exist in 2032 due to Cte concerns. NFL has become nerf and soccer now reigns supreme in the south
Big ten, SEC merger making a super conference
I predict that in 10 years the ACC will be gone.
Some of that stuff is wild, but "meaningless bowl game" isn't one of them. It's been meaningless for a very long time
Oh, horsefeathers. I found some of the bowl games last year highly entertaining. The Celebration bowl, the New Orleans Bowl and the Cure Bowl -- all on the same day -- got the bowl season off to a great start. The Toastery Bowl was amazing -- WKU storming back from 28 down to win in OT. Seeing Georgia Tech break through and win a bowl game after they had plunged into the depths for several years was heartening (if you're a Tech fan.) The Birmingham Bowl, Camellia Bowl and Las Vegas Bowl were tense and exciting. Seeing Kansas and UNLV -- two teams that are more basketball than football schools, usually -- play each other (and produce a shootout!) was amazing. The Quick Lane Bowl was a fun one. Texas A&M actually competed well without Dumbf*** Fisher there to ruin them with his imbecility and arrogance. The Alamo Bowl and Fenway Bowl featured fourth-quarter comeback wins. Rutgers won their bowl game, showing promise for the future. In a top-10 matchup, Missouri staged a fourth-quarter rally to come from behind and take down tOSU. Clemson and Kentucky put on an offensive showcase. Wyoming sent their retiring coach out on a high note with a 1-point come-from-behind victory. LSU and Wisconsin put on another thrilling shootout. And that was all BEFORE we got to the CFP itself, which had two amazing semifinals.
Okay, so I actually found MOST of the bowl games last year highly entertaining. I didn't realize there were so many good ones until I actually looked back at the bowl schedule.
Like the movie the The Last Boy Scout we are witnessing the death of college football lady and gents the amount of money it take to build a stadium is going up every day and at the end of the day the fan enjoy going out to Florida California and Texas to watch there team in a bowl game but when the the best players don’t play in those games the average fan isn’t going to go to the game let alone pay some ridiculous ticket price. The bottom line is greed is killing the sport!
Yeah, if only the players were properly compensated for the work/risk that it take to play a game of football at a high level. I mean considering siting out costs them zero dollars while playing could cost them millions if they get injured. Like they don't even get workers comp so if they get permently paralized they could never walk again and have to just live off government disability and the kindness of others. That's before all the long term brain damage sustained every single game.
One consistency in college football: Alabama always has the best team.
Roll tide!
The state of Georgia would like a word
Alabama sucked horse d*** from about 1997 through 2007. (Mike DuBose, Dennis Franchione and Mike Shula were the coaches: 2007 was Saban's first year, and he couldn't fix all the problems instantly. It took him until 2008, his second year, to get the program back to where it had been under Gene Stallings.)
PAC 12 gone.
Last decade More changes than including integration?? Idkkkk bout all that lol
The fans lose when the media deals go up. We have to pay more and more for shit