i ordered these on black friday and they just came in. timmy i just wanted to say thanks for the thorough explanation of what you all used esp. including the parts in the description. i super appreciate it and i feel so at ease installing these today.
You're very welcome. Glad to hear our video is making this project easier for you to accomplish. Hope the install goes smooth for you. Happy Wrenching!
Thanks AJ. We appreciate your nice compliment of our channel. Hopefully we'll have lots more 5th Gen videos for you to reference in the future. Happy Wrenching!
WOW!! ANOTHER SICKMODS FROM THE BOYS IN CALIFORNIA 😎👍 THIS VIDEO IS LIKE A INSTRUCTION MANUAL FROM IKEA. SO EASY THAT YOUR GRANDMOTHER CAN DO THIS JOB 😉
Just finished installing my RSG sliders and KDSS armor plate. There were a couple of more “tricks” due to that, but your video provided a great solid tutorial!
I don't remember but by looking at the video, it looks like it's an M8 size and the thread pitch is most likely 1.25. So M8 x 1.25. To confirm this, just go to a hardware store, get an M8 x 1.25 pitch bolt and see if you can thread the bolt into one of those frame holes.
Another home run Timmy! Since we're on the subject of anit-seize from the last video lol, do you think that would be a good practice to put between the flange of the rock rail and the chassis to discourage corrosion between the two metal surfaces? Not as bad in California but concerned in snow/salt country where we live of the corrosion that could set up in there.
I don't think anti-sieze between the rock rail and the frame would be necessary. But, maybe for those that live in the rust belts could spray some fluid film between the two surfaces as a corrosion preventer.
It's seems logical that the flat ones would stick out further but maybe they make them different so they stick out the same distance as the angled ones. You could just call them and ask. I do think the angled ones are the way to go though. I like how tight they fit with the body.
Two questions. For a 3 month old 2021 4runner that went on a muddy trail once and a car wash needs to have the frame threads cleaned and threaded as you have done? Also I did not see you spray any rust preventer on the frame before you mounted the rock sliders. Any need for that?
I doubt you would need to clean the threads provided you got all the dirt out at the car wash. No need to spray rust preventer anywhere on the frame unless you live in an area that experiences icy conditions and they salt the roads.
@@TimmyTheToolman its the type of metal thats used for the sliders. You either have to choice HREW (hot rolled electric welded) or DOM (drawn over mandrel)
I really like these sliders. Do you think it may be useful to put some Loctite on those slider bolts or do you feel that they are plenty snug in there? Thanks for another great vid. I like to get my "4runner fix" without getting dirty sometimes.
Hey Ted, yes, we do think it would be good to idea to use some loctite and we actually did with this install. You might have missed it but we mention using Blue 242 Loctite on the threads of the bolts. I wouldn't use the red threadlocker though. The red would be overkill and make it difficult to remove the bolts in the future.
Don't remember. We never measured them. I'm guessing you're not using the RSG sliders because they come with the kit. Just measure the thickness of the slider feet, add another 3/16" because that's what the frame rail thickness is most likely and then add a maybe another 1/2" for the captured nut in the frame. Bolt lengths go by the length of the shaft with the threads on it and don't include the bolt head. With all that information, I'm sure you can figure out the appropriate size bolts to purchase. I would use a grade 8.8 bolt of higher.
@@TimmyTheToolman Thank you. This helps quite a bit. I will be fabricating my own sliders and debating if I'll weld it on or bolt it. Probably bolt it for simplicity sake. I'll also be getting a thread restorer kit. I find your attention to detail with ensuring the bolts are in a clean place and secured is a best practices method. Much appreciated!
@@domaroons You're welcome. I noticed the kit I linked was no longer available but I found the same kit for sale from another supplier so I updated the link in the video description. Good luck with the install.
I don't know of any bolt on sliders for 3rd Gens. I think bolt on sliders work well for 5th Gens because the frame rails already have a ton of existing threaded holes down the length of the frame rails. 3rd Gen 4runners do not have this type of set-up. Weld on sliders have a stronger bond to the frame rails than bolt on. Bolt on have the advantage of being able to be easily removed if they sustain damage and you want to pull them off to repair them or replace them altogether. These RSG sliders are being held onto the frame with quite a few bolts so I think they will hold up pretty well if they take a hard hit.
Robert Thomas Very interesting. Thanks for sharing. It must require you to drill a bunch of holes. There's not any threaded holes on the sides of the frame rails that I remember.
@@andyguo6700 Hey Andy, the easy answer for you is it's going to take as long as it takes. If you're worried about time, choose a day to do it that you don't have anything else going on. This way if it takes you longer than expected, it's no big deal. I can't count how many times a job took me longer than I thought it would take. There's always little hang-ups that will slow you down. If you're patient, you'll get it done.
I ordered aluminum rock sliders from a Canadian company since getting stuff from the US is nearly impossible. I DO OFFROAD...my truck is not a mall truck or garage queen. Still waiting for it and it look the same as these one.
We live in San Jose. If you have a job that we haven't filmed yet, we might be interested. If it's something we've already filmed, we probably won't help you out. We want to concentrate on making new videos because that's how we can do the most good for the most people. This is not a full-time gig for Sean and I. We both have regular jobs so we need to prioritize our time.
Not really. The RSG sliders are taking advantage of all the welded nuts inside the frame rails on the 5th Gen 4runner. You would have to do weld-on sliders.
HI Timmy, yes pls do more video on 5th gen. Also, where are you in California. I'm in the Bay Area and looking for someone to also help me out with my 5th Gen 4runner. Thx
Cool, I would like to sometime in the near future do a simple leveling lift kit, rock sliders, cool air intake, and eventually, front and back bumper. I have the current 2018 limited 4runner. with XREAS system. I'm in San Rafael.
Fix Easz I'm not sure which ones will fit your rig but I'd just call the company that makes these and ask them. Or, do an internet search and I'm sure you'll come up with some options for your rig.
Hey Don, I haven't heard of one but that doesn't mean they don't exist. The problem with the 3rd Gen 4runners compared to the 5th Gens is the 3rd Gens don't have all the nice factory attachment points readily available. Weld-on for the 3rd Gen 4runners is the way to go in our opinion.
i ordered these on black friday and they just came in. timmy i just wanted to say thanks for the thorough explanation of what you all used esp. including the parts in the description. i super appreciate it and i feel so at ease installing these today.
You're very welcome. Glad to hear our video is making this project easier for you to accomplish. Hope the install goes smooth for you. Happy Wrenching!
I said it on your Gobi Rack install video which helped me a lot on my Gobi install. You have THE BEST install videos out there!!
Thanks AJ. We appreciate your nice compliment of our channel. Hopefully we'll have lots more 5th Gen videos for you to reference in the future. Happy Wrenching!
Great video. I'm seriously considering getting a pair of these for my 5th Gen 4Runner.
Thanks for the comment! These sliders look like a very solid build. I'm looking forward to seeing these sliders in action!
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HAHAHAHAHHA I'll have to invite my Grandma over next time we wrench on our trucks!
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We would love some Norwegian beer!
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Great install video! Do more 5th gen!!!🤘🏾
Glad you like the video. We will do our best to make more videos for 5th Gens.
Just finished installing my RSG sliders and KDSS armor plate. There were a couple of more “tricks” due to that, but your video provided a great solid tutorial!
@@rodneyswanson9839 Glad it helped you out.
Do you remember what size re-threader you had to use at 9:29 in the video?
I don't remember but by looking at the video, it looks like it's an M8 size and the thread pitch is most likely 1.25. So M8 x 1.25. To confirm this, just go to a hardware store, get an M8 x 1.25 pitch bolt and see if you can thread the bolt into one of those frame holes.
YES!!!! Please please please find some 4th gens to work on.
Jager1726 we will try!
Nice video. Just curious if you did anything to weld lines on the frame to make the mounting surface flat.
I'm not following what you're asking. The frame is already a flat surface to weld on.
I had to file weld lines off from the frame to make it flat. Same reason as you removed hard plastic plugs.
Okay, now I understand what you're talking about. No, we didn't have to do any filing of welds. It bolted up flat to the frame no problem.
Another home run Timmy! Since we're on the subject of anit-seize from the last video lol, do you think that would be a good practice to put between the flange of the rock rail and the chassis to discourage corrosion between the two metal surfaces? Not as bad in California but concerned in snow/salt country where we live of the corrosion that could set up in there.
I don't think anti-sieze between the rock rail and the frame would be necessary. But, maybe for those that live in the rust belts could spray some fluid film between the two surfaces as a corrosion preventer.
Timmy The Toolman That sounds like a much better idea! Thanks will do just that.
You should do a walkaround vid with your rigs, go over what mods you have, what you like, what you would do different, etc.
That's sort of the plan at some point.
Awesome footage and Review 👍👍🇺🇸 thanks for sharing 👍
The Vermonter
Glad you like it and you're very welcome.
Great vid as usual
mr_hachi_roku 86 thanks for the kind words!
i assume the flat ones would stick out more than the angled ones? the angled ones seem to be perfect and clean
It's seems logical that the flat ones would stick out further but maybe they make them different so they stick out the same distance as the angled ones. You could just call them and ask. I do think the angled ones are the way to go though. I like how tight they fit with the body.
Those look gooood..
Yeah, they are very well built.
Two questions. For a 3 month old 2021 4runner that went on a muddy trail once and a car wash needs to have the frame threads cleaned and threaded as you have done? Also I did not see you spray any rust preventer on the frame before you mounted the rock sliders. Any need for that?
I doubt you would need to clean the threads provided you got all the dirt out at the car wash. No need to spray rust preventer anywhere on the frame unless you live in an area that experiences icy conditions and they salt the roads.
@@TimmyTheToolman Thanks for the advice. Enjoyed your video. Subscribed.
@@savetheelephants You're welcome Roger and welcome to our channel. Have fun with the install.
Great vid. If you’re going to branch out, let’s see some 2nd gen Tacoma vids.
If someone local to us with a 2nd Gen Tacoma hits us up with some projects, then sure, we'll probably do some videos on them.
Nice install video. We’re the slider the HREW or DOM??
Sorry, your question went over my head. No clue what you mean by HREW or DOM.
@@TimmyTheToolman its the type of metal thats used for the sliders. You either have to choice HREW (hot rolled electric welded) or DOM (drawn over mandrel)
@@esi178y6 Ahhh, I see. I don't know which ones my buddy Garett got. I just helped him install them.
just bought these
Good luck with the insfall.
I really like these sliders. Do you think it may be useful to put some Loctite on those slider bolts or do you feel that they are plenty snug in there? Thanks for another great vid. I like to get my "4runner fix" without getting dirty sometimes.
Hey Ted, yes, we do think it would be good to idea to use some loctite and we actually did with this install. You might have missed it but we mention using Blue 242 Loctite on the threads of the bolts. I wouldn't use the red threadlocker though. The red would be overkill and make it difficult to remove the bolts in the future.
Is this the angled one or flat?
Garett chose the angled ones with the kick out. He explains this at the beginning of the video. You must have skimmed over it.
Timmy, the bolt torque specs on the instructions say 24 lbs. Is that right? That seems rather low.
They aren't huge bolts so 24 ft-lbf is in the ballpark for that size of a bolt.
@@TimmyTheToolman Fantastic! Appreciate the into.
Another great video Timmy! Any plans on doing an instructional snorkel install soon? Preferably on a first gen tacoma??? haha
We have plans of installing one on a 3rd Gen 4runner pretty soon.
What were the lengths of the M8 bolts?
Don't remember. We never measured them. I'm guessing you're not using the RSG sliders because they come with the kit. Just measure the thickness of the slider feet, add another 3/16" because that's what the frame rail thickness is most likely and then add a maybe another 1/2" for the captured nut in the frame. Bolt lengths go by the length of the shaft with the threads on it and don't include the bolt head. With all that information, I'm sure you can figure out the appropriate size bolts to purchase. I would use a grade 8.8 bolt of higher.
@@TimmyTheToolman Thank you. This helps quite a bit. I will be fabricating my own sliders and debating if I'll weld it on or bolt it. Probably bolt it for simplicity sake. I'll also be getting a thread restorer kit. I find your attention to detail with ensuring the bolts are in a clean place and secured is a best practices method. Much appreciated!
What size thread restorer?
I'm pretty sure it was a M8 x 1.25 pitch but I can't say for sure.
@@TimmyTheToolman thanks, just saw your kit linked in the description. I'll get one of those kits! Thanks and great video! 🤙
@@domaroons You're welcome. I noticed the kit I linked was no longer available but I found the same kit for sale from another supplier so I updated the link in the video description. Good luck with the install.
Do they have bolt on sliders for 3rd gen? Is weld on better or is bolt on just as sturdy?
I don't know of any bolt on sliders for 3rd Gens. I think bolt on sliders work well for 5th Gens because the frame rails already have a ton of existing threaded holes down the length of the frame rails. 3rd Gen 4runners do not have this type of set-up. Weld on sliders have a stronger bond to the frame rails than bolt on. Bolt on have the advantage of being able to be easily removed if they sustain damage and you want to pull them off to repair them or replace them altogether.
These RSG sliders are being held onto the frame with quite a few bolts so I think they will hold up pretty well if they take a hard hit.
Trail gear has a bolt on option for the 3rd gens
Robert Thomas Very interesting. Thanks for sharing. It must require you to drill a bunch of holes. There's not any threaded holes on the sides of the frame rails that I remember.
How long did it take
We're filming so it always takes us much longer than the job should take. I'd say 2-3 hours is a good estimate.
@@TimmyTheToolman so your telling me it’s going to take me even long as I have to take off my old running boards
@@andyguo6700 Hey Andy, the easy answer for you is it's going to take as long as it takes. If you're worried about time, choose a day to do it that you don't have anything else going on. This way if it takes you longer than expected, it's no big deal. I can't count how many times a job took me longer than I thought it would take. There's always little hang-ups that will slow you down. If you're patient, you'll get it done.
I ordered aluminum rock sliders from a Canadian company since getting stuff from the US is nearly impossible.
I DO OFFROAD...my truck is not a mall truck or garage queen.
Still waiting for it and it look the same as these one.
@@useryggfdcc Once you put the Canadian rock sliders on do you have to end every sentence with "EH"?
Where are you located in Cali and how can I get you to work on my rig
We live in San Jose. If you have a job that we haven't filmed yet, we might be interested. If it's something we've already filmed, we probably won't help you out. We want to concentrate on making new videos because that's how we can do the most good for the most people. This is not a full-time gig for Sean and I. We both have regular jobs so we need to prioritize our time.
would this work on a 3rd gen?
Not really. The RSG sliders are taking advantage of all the welded nuts inside the frame rails on the 5th Gen 4runner. You would have to do weld-on sliders.
@@TimmyTheToolman I figured from other videos I’ve seen. Thanks
HI Timmy, yes pls do more video on 5th gen. Also, where are you in California. I'm in the Bay Area and looking for someone to also help me out with my 5th Gen 4runner. Thx
Hey Ethan, I'm in San Jose. What do you want to do to your 5th Gen?
Cool, I would like to sometime in the near future do a simple leveling lift kit, rock sliders, cool air intake, and eventually, front and back bumper. I have the current 2018 limited 4runner. with XREAS system. I'm in San Rafael.
Alright, we'll see what we can help you with.
Thats what I want to do!
I really want to install a pair of rock slider for my 2016 4runner limited. Do you know which brand would be fit to mine because of the xreas system?
Fix Easz I'm not sure which ones will fit your rig but I'd just call the company that makes these and ask them. Or, do an internet search and I'm sure you'll come up with some options for your rig.
How much did each of these weigh? I dont want the UPS guy to hate me.
K N I don’t think he will hate you, but he won’t be too happy. They are pretty Heavy because they are wrapped together
60 pounds esch
Does anyone make a tubular style bolt on for the 3rd Gen 4Runner?
Hey Don, I haven't heard of one but that doesn't mean they don't exist. The problem with the 3rd Gen 4runners compared to the 5th Gens is the 3rd Gens don't have all the nice factory attachment points readily available. Weld-on for the 3rd Gen 4runners is the way to go in our opinion.
Timmy The Toolman Thanks for the reply.
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