LOCRIAN doesn't have to be S p O o K y

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  • @LFiles48
    @LFiles48 2 роки тому +702

    As a metal composer, I love Locrian. I call it the "question mark" mode. I love to use it to alter a riff, make it weird for a bridge or something, or to play weird licks during solos.

    • @AndrewCheshire
      @AndrewCheshire 2 роки тому +11

      That one Locrean riff/sequence in Lamb of God's "Vigil," oh my gosh!!! 😍😍😍

    • @bjb2309
      @bjb2309 2 роки тому +2

      Sylosis's song Stained Humanity is pretty much written in locrian. It's a great metal song and really shows how metal of a mode it is.

    • @ZekeNigma
      @ZekeNigma 2 роки тому

      The most well known example of Locrian being used in metal is the main riff of Metallica's "Seek and Destroy", which has an almost badass supervillain kinda vibe to it, or at least it does to me

    • @chouchoue
      @chouchoue 2 роки тому +4

      I think it's like the Valley Girl of modes?

    • @ajhproductions2347
      @ajhproductions2347 2 роки тому

      Amen my nugget. I like me some phryg dom

  • @corrinflakes9659
    @corrinflakes9659 2 роки тому +455

    Locrian in “Destroyed Skyworld” in Kid Icarus Uprising might technically have an evil feel to it, but it sounds *beautiful* and that Pit is there on a *mission* to save someone who would seem too far gone to anyone else. The Locrian isn’t just signifying the problem but also the drive.

    • @FL4SHK
      @FL4SHK 2 роки тому +17

      Kid Icarus Uprising is a great game!

    • @guilhermegoldman
      @guilhermegoldman 2 роки тому +15

      Goddamnit! My 3ds doesn't have enought memory for this BS right now!

  • @fagottist
    @fagottist 2 роки тому +811

    While I think it'spossible to analyse the Zelda example within a locrian framework I think it might be slightly more accurate to label it as using the iwato scale from traditional Japanese music. Pentatonic scale similar in makeup to the locrian but without the third or sixh degrees;which is an exact match for that example.
    Love the videos; always stop by to enjoy the latest one.

    • @dalluc
      @dalluc 2 роки тому +88

      Well this is pretty cool, if anything it's an example of analyzing music from completely different cultures with western theory, which is possible but utimately kinda wrong. If this Iwato scale as you said has no third degree, then it is fundamentally "unusable" in western theory as the third is always present in any western scale and indicates wether a scale/chord is major or minor.

    • @AtomizedSound
      @AtomizedSound 2 роки тому +24

      @@dalluc theory can be borrowed from all cultures true but analyzing it from a western framework as you are saying would be hard but not impossible. Wouldn’t go with traditional theory models no

    • @DonHaka
      @DonHaka 2 роки тому +3

      your pfp, isnt that the flag of anarcho-syndicalism?

    • @yourunemployedfriendat2pm
      @yourunemployedfriendat2pm 2 роки тому

      @@DonHaka what the fuck are you talking about

    • @inafridge8573
      @inafridge8573 2 роки тому +2

      @@DonHaka seems like it 2 me

  • @sharpphilip
    @sharpphilip 2 роки тому +875

    I love learning about modes. Looking forward to the Lydian bit. (Is there any chance a video could feature tips on modulating from one mode to another?)

    • @maluse227
      @maluse227 2 роки тому +41

      the persona video covers modulations between modes pretty well

    • @CafaTheHutt
      @CafaTheHutt 2 роки тому +3

      @@maluse227 thanks for the tip :)

    • @MoonDisast
      @MoonDisast 2 роки тому +7

      I definitely want to hear Lydian examples in gaming.
      It was enlightening to hear Locrian examples, especially after being painted out on tracks I've heard before and not realising it was in this mode.
      Now I definitely want to hear Lydian.
      And then maybe some Ionian scale🌚

    • @corviscape
      @corviscape 2 роки тому +9

      @@MoonDisast Off the top of my head I believe both Lost woods and Song of Healing from Ocarina of Time and Majora's mask are both in Lydian. Classic stuff right there

    • @sharpphilip
      @sharpphilip 2 роки тому +1

      @@maluse227 Oh dang, I'll re-watch! Thanks!

  • @Pascal-eu2oe
    @Pascal-eu2oe 2 роки тому +133

    As a person who doesn't understand a lot of these concepts, I'd love to see videos on the other scales. This video served well to show what modes stereotypically sound like, as well as to show how their sound can be played around with to effect a different feel in these pieces, and while I don't understand everything in these videos, they are still possible to follow along with.

    • @FL4SHK
      @FL4SHK 2 роки тому

      Could you give some examples of what you don't understand? I'm curious.

    • @Pascal-eu2oe
      @Pascal-eu2oe 2 роки тому +3

      @@FL4SHK Chords, resolution, pretty much most of the higher music theory stuff.

    • @jasonreed7522
      @jasonreed7522 2 роки тому +4

      @@Pascal-eu2oe chords are basically just playing 2+ notes at the same time, technically any combination is allowed but music theory helps you use ones that don't sound like a kid pressing every key on a piano at once.
      8bit has a bunch of older video to cover the basics, which are less able use videogame music to showcase things as a cord is pretty fundamental to playing an instrument. (They are real fun as a saxophone player where you need a friend to play the other note for you)
      But the less fundamental theory is excellently showcase by his basic premise of using videogame music, which is much more familiar than classical music, and generally is simpler and in context really shows how the music choice complements the vibe the game devs are going for. (His chromatic notes video was pretty intuitive without needing a bunch of other knowledge)

    • @michaelleue7594
      @michaelleue7594 2 роки тому +1

      @@Pascal-eu2oe Chords can feel more tense or less tense. When you go from a chord that feels more tense to a chord that feels less tense, it feels like a resolution (of the tension). Basically 85% of music theory is just that one sentence, and classifying chords to see how it works. The notation and organizational structure can get complicated, but the idea is simple. Think of Beethoven's 5th with *da da da DUMMMM* as a very extreme example.
      Locrian mode is unpopular because it's defined by a set of chord movements which are high in tension. There's nothing in the mode that resolves that tension nicely, and if you allow the tension to resolve, it's because you've accidentally gotten out of Locrian mode and (usually) into some functional major or minor key with a different root note than what you intended. Staying in Locrian means never doing a traditional resolution and just letting the tension hover there in the music. Most people really like the resolution, it's extremely satisfying, so a mode that eschews it entirely doesn't fit well in a lot of situations. It's only useful if your goal is to inspire a sense of dissatisfaction, of tension that never goes away, of stress.

    • @jamieshank6736
      @jamieshank6736 2 роки тому +2

      They're good videos. Just keep in mind that every mode is just a different position in your major key, whatever that key may be. The general whole, whole, half, whole, whole, whole, half will be found somewhere in each mode, Locrian being the seventh position, starting the mode at a B note will keep ya in the key of C.
      But w/ that said, you can use the mode both for the key you are in, but when getting more advanced these things can also be used for key changes/alterations, though Locrian would be a rather intense alteration as is demonstrated in the vid w/ this well chosen song from Doom. Though we write out of major, that's just how music is designed, there are keys outside of the major key, of course, the minor key with its flat 3rd note being the primary example of this. Note that 7 and m7 key will always knock ya back a step to 2 steps in circles respectively, ex. Dm7 is C, G7 is C, likewise Fm7 would be Eb as well as Bb7 would be Eb - the keys not the chords, just to make that clear. Almost botched and reversed the flats, sorry, it's correct now, lol, always good to reread. Music's such a trip.
      Some keys will make use of more than the standard seven, such as a simple chromatic adding an F# and C# into the C key to help as emphasis notes or any other version of the chromatic, in other words any notes added in to the standdard key for emphasis (Hendrix and many other blues aficionados did a lot of this), and some keys will make use of less notes, like our five note pentatonic scales which sacrifice two notes from the major - less notes of course making for more harmony and less dissonance between the notes. All of them will have different positions/modes, as well - though with chromatics a lot of what is added in are emphasis notes, not to be used as starting points.
      I tell ya, I don't think I've ever written a song to where I've set out knowing more than the rudimentary basics of what I was doing while creating it. Always do what sounds good to start. Knowing how to apply the theory will help to know where to go during creation and then will help to put everything together and make sense of everything once created, tying up any loose ends and adding in any other pieces that could help the main progression. Again, always do what sounds good to start. As time goes by and more is learned the progressions will get better, and old songs can always be added to.

  • @Eyewarp
    @Eyewarp 2 роки тому +230

    Really happy to see the Oracle games talked about here; I've always thought their soundtrack is criminally underrated. And yes, the food made from fugu blowfish (specifically their pickled ovaries) is real.

    • @djb5255
      @djb5255 2 роки тому +5

      There's a cool Hitman 2016 mission where you can sushi-assassinate a target. Very epic.

    • @cube2fox
      @cube2fox 2 роки тому +3

      While I love the uniqueness of the Samasa desert music, I think it really does sound spooky. Which is why it is so unexpected in a (non-spooky) desert environment.

    • @ZiggyMandarr
      @ZiggyMandarr 2 роки тому +3

      @Richard Gurney for me it's Skull Dungeon. That's a jam.

    • @terdragontra8900
      @terdragontra8900 2 роки тому +2

      i agree, tarm ruins is the most underrated zelda track ever, its gorgeous. and dancing dragon dungeon is a bop.

    • @Nhnhnfk
      @Nhnhnfk 2 роки тому

      @@terdragontra8900 I really like the Oracles Finale piece. It actually uses counterpoint.

  • @eduardogarciarascon3279
    @eduardogarciarascon3279 2 роки тому +55

    Death Doom's music has kind of like a blues structure. A diminished blues sounds pretty amazing

  • @ND62511
    @ND62511 2 роки тому +99

    As a huge DOOM fan, I’m thrilled to see coverage of E1M1 on the channel! I’d love to see what you could do with more songs from those games!

    • @GoldenizedElite
      @GoldenizedElite 2 роки тому +5

      12 bar blues renditions of metal riffs 🥴

    • @TraxtasyMedia
      @TraxtasyMedia 2 роки тому +1

      it's a Master of Puppets cover from Metallica :D

    • @markusmiekk-oja3717
      @markusmiekk-oja3717 2 роки тому

      I wonder if the use of footage from E1M2 is an intentional attempt to trigger long-time doom fans :)

    • @markusmiekk-oja3717
      @markusmiekk-oja3717 2 роки тому

      @@TraxtasyMedia Nope. It's not, neither as far as rhythm or selection of tones goes. DRI's Hooked's opening riff is way closer. The only thing Master of Puppets and E1M1 have in common are a pedal tone and a descending progression of tones (E1M1) or chords (MoP).

    • @TraxtasyMedia
      @TraxtasyMedia 2 роки тому

      @@markusmiekk-oja3717 who knows? :D

  • @charlesbyrd2452
    @charlesbyrd2452 2 роки тому +56

    I was just listening to final fantasy VI's soundtrack this morning while on my run, and was wondering to myself what kinda chords that song used. Fortuitous.

  • @justinbremer2281
    @justinbremer2281 2 роки тому +112

    ...one of these days, I *swear* I will comprehend at least **one thing** from music theory!!

    • @Tutorial7a
      @Tutorial7a 2 роки тому +19

      Same, back when I first started watching 8-Bit here a few years ago I had trouble getting past the first ten seconds-and while I’m not particularly good at it I do comprehend generally what he’s talking about now! Keep at it, you can do it!

    • @j377yb33n
      @j377yb33n 2 роки тому +2

      I can't remember the exact name of it, but there's some table for mapping the scale numbering visually into a circle. I think vox used it on their breakdown of giant steps. might help with some of this stuff

    • @Outside998
      @Outside998 2 роки тому +5

      You probably just need the right teacher. I thought the same as you did, but let me tell you, it's actually far easier than you think.

    • @redpepper74
      @redpepper74 2 роки тому +3

      @@j377yb33n circle of fifths I think it is

    • @maxwellkazemba2299
      @maxwellkazemba2299 2 роки тому

      @@redpepper74 that was the one in the vox video about giant steps, yeah.

  • @Krixwell
    @Krixwell 2 роки тому +80

    When I first learned about the modes, I went through a phase where I made a bunch of pieces in Locrian. It's definitely underrated. Although since then I've grown a taste for Phrygian and especially Phrygian dominant (Phrygian but with a major third), and started experimenting with a bunch of different scales outside the modes of major.

    • @spoopu9947
      @spoopu9947 2 роки тому +9

      I'm a big mixolydian fan myself

    • @smergthedargon8974
      @smergthedargon8974 2 роки тому +9

      Ah, a fellow Phrygian appreciator. God I love the Phrygians. My best song is in Phrygian Dominant (though it sure doesn't sound like it!)

    • @aldeayeah
      @aldeayeah 2 роки тому +6

      Phrygian Dominant is just one alteration away from Double Harmonic and Mixolydian flat 6. Those three are probably my favorite scales!

    • @maffooo2040
      @maffooo2040 2 роки тому +2

      I used to be a Phrygian fan, but now I am a combining Phrygian dominant and mixolydian enjoyer, try it, it's so cool

    • @vlyrch
      @vlyrch 2 роки тому +7

      Phrygian, Phrygian dominant and double harmonic major are great. Personally, I think Neapolitan minor and the "mirage scale" are even cooler, at least for improvisation. The latter is just perfect! I stumbled upon it by going "what if I combine Phrygian, Phrygian dominant and double harmonic minor?" haha, looked it up and learned about its strange recent history (it was apparently the only scale not listed on Ian Ring's site, and thus someone named it "mirage scale").
      Still, at least I almost always end up going with just Phrygian, Phrygian dominant or double harmonic major (or Phrygian dominant with added major 7th) even if the idea began from something "even cooler".
      Anyway, Locrian is fun, and imho its usual vibe is "liminal" kinda like liminal spaces; at the same time relaxing but also somehow unsettling. It's like it embodies a feeling of nostalgia for something that never happened/existed, or that was unnervingly different from the memories... or a deja vu type of feeling. Also kinda bittersweet in a way.
      Locrian dominant, though... uhhh... I'm interested in it, but haven't found any use for it yet.
      (Sorry for rambling.)

  • @aaronmyers6686
    @aaronmyers6686 2 роки тому +16

    I'd love to see a video on the Dorian mode and how its tonal vagueness can allow it to be used to express all kinds of emotions (heroism/triumph, curiosity, sadness, etc).

  • @Joe_from_Rio
    @Joe_from_Rio 2 роки тому +15

    Thank you ! I always thought Locrian was unusable. Thanks for showing us some brillant examples of this scale.

  • @picklepicker1328
    @picklepicker1328 2 роки тому +37

    I’d love it if you could talk about the Dorian scale, it’s my favorite mode!

  • @trademarkshelton
    @trademarkshelton 2 роки тому +3

    My man Nosk’s theme sneaking in at the beginning there

  • @kylew121
    @kylew121 2 роки тому +10

    Another locrian example I really enjoy is the track "Elven Mist" from RuneScape. It really embraces that mode and the half-diminished tonic chord.

  • @wellurban
    @wellurban 2 роки тому +11

    Great examples, thanks! I always think that the problem with the Locrian mode isn’t that it’s necessarily so “dark” or “evil”, so much that it’s root chord is unstable, so it’s hard to sound like you’re staying IN Locrian. The way that I’ve found to get around it is by playing a shell voicing for the root chord, so that there’s no flat 5th in the chord, while keeping a repetitive bassline that does use the flat 5th. If you add some dissonant extensions to any other chords, you can still feel like the root chord is home, while maintaining a Locrian feel with the bassline and melodic elements.

    • @cellularautomaton.
      @cellularautomaton. 2 роки тому

      yeah the root-m3-m7 is a good root chord in locrian

    • @oneeyemonster3262
      @oneeyemonster3262 2 роки тому

      it just depends how you play it and what you play it on.
      MODES are just INTERVALS IDENTIFICATION
      KEEP IT SIMPLE.....DONT MAKE it COMPLICATED
      BASIC TRIADS are just every other note
      ( you dont have to always do that..it's just a GUIDE)
      Example...Im on my guitar...It the KEY of D MAJOR/B min
      C# locrian
      Im simply going finger the C# note as my ROOT.
      Open D note...Open G note.. D note..open high E note.
      Then play Open A B then C# ( on the A string)
      Im FINGER PICKING it...
      I guess you call it C# dim add b2/b9.
      it's just the b3 ( E note) is stacked in the second octave
      Then Im simply going to finger the
      G F# E...descending ( in the lower octave)..in a nutshell NOTE on the LOW E string..
      While I'm just finger the D note ( on B string) against open D G E
      Then the E note on the on the D string..
      In a nut shell C# dim triad add 9
      Then Im simply going hammer the the LOW G note on the ( low E string) the tritone or b5 of C# with my MIDDLE finger
      It sounds PRETTY. The C# is my ROOT NOTE
      C# LOCRIAN...those are the INTERVALS.
      There's OTHER SCALES with MODES in them too.
      Lydian = IONIAN #4
      There's also
      Lyd #2
      Lyd b3
      Lyd #6
      Lyd b7
      Lyd #5
      Lyd #2 , b7 or ( mix #2, #4)
      Lyd #5 #6
      Lyd #2, #5
      Lyd #2, #6
      or
      Mix = IONIAN b7
      Mix #2
      Mix #4
      Mix b2
      Mix b6
      Mix #2, #4
      Mix b2, b6.......some people term this INTERVAL as PHRYGIAN DOMINANT
      Mix b2, #4
      Those are just some EXAMPLES
      There's MORE different scales with MODES within them too.
      if you play those NOTES in a LINER manner...they'll all create different SOUNDS.
      Alot of people WILL use that as a GUIDE to distinguished those SOUNDS.
      If you learn them via INTERVALS identifications
      mix #2, #4.. aka HUNGARIAN MAJOR scale
      You could stack different CHORDS using this mode
      1, 3, 5...... MAJOR
      1, #2, 5 Min ( #2 is enharmonic/SAME as b3)
      1, 3, 5 b7 dominant
      1, #2, 5, b7 min 7
      1, #2, #4 dim
      1 #2, #4 b7 half dim
      1, #2, #4 6 full dim
      1 3, b7 #9....is how the HENDRIX is play on the GUITAR
      in theory ..it's just 1, 3, 5, b7, #9...The #2 is stack in the second octave ...that is all.

    • @markusmiekk-oja3717
      @markusmiekk-oja3717 2 роки тому

      Using a 7sus4no5-chord is also a strategy that can work. Even then, tho', the b5 can be a bit jarring against the 4

    • @oneeyemonster3262
      @oneeyemonster3262 2 роки тому

      @@markusmiekk-oja3717 You could simply stack a sus4 chord,
      Example In the Key of A MAJOR/F#min ( on the guitar)
      G# sus4 ...Barr at the 4th fret ( Locrian)
      A sus9 at the NUT..............( IONIAN)
      Then...Hammer the F note on the D string with my PINKY
      Then Hammer the F note on the LOW E string.
      Without making it too complicated...
      Lets just say I borrowed from the A MAJOR BeBop scale.
      It's A MAJOR with #5/b6....OPTION/PASSING note.
      to play the F Maj7 add#11 chord. ( the 5th is suspened)
      I have to WRITE it like that ...to justify playing that maj7 of F..
      NOT so much for me...( I'll play whatever I damn please)
      It just so OTHER MUSICIANs can COMPREHEND it.
      It's a scale with 8 notes
      so I could say it's loc 4, bb7....ADD Maj7 ( MODE)
      to give a point of REFERENCE.
      Aanways....I CREATED the mix #2 or ION #6 scale...or LOCRIAN maj7
      It's MY INVENTION
      I also created melodic min b5 ( mix b2, #4)
      Then C# min triad against open B/E ( C# min add b13) Phrygian
      E7 at the NUT Mixolyian ( hammer the G# note low E pinky if I want)
      A MAJOR ....barr 5th FRET
      repeat.....starting from the G# sus4 chord ( Locrian)

  • @lazaruscomplexofficial
    @lazaruscomplexofficial 2 роки тому

    this is my favorite episode you have done so far!

  • @ThaetusZain
    @ThaetusZain 2 роки тому +103

    I get the feeling Locrian can do the "safe but tense" stuff that thrives in horror game safe rooms. Isn't the cathedral theme from ALTTP in Locrian?

    • @jasonreed7522
      @jasonreed7522 2 роки тому +15

      Now I'm curious about the music in the original Luigi's Mansion. Granted the primary instrument was Luigi humming in terror. (Which is probably a choice worth making a video about; selecting an instrument for a piece)

    • @AxleCarp
      @AxleCarp 2 роки тому +9

      I think it's just in harmonic minor - it's just the bassline descending chromatically

    • @em_the_bee
      @em_the_bee Рік тому

      @@AxleCarp by "chromatically" you mean it goes down one semitone at a time, not necessarily conforming to a scale? Music noob here sorry xD

    • @voskresenie-
      @voskresenie- Рік тому +2

      @@em_the_bee yes, although it /is/ conforming to a scale (the chromatic scale) -- the typical 8 tone scales (major, minor, and the other 5 diatonic modes) are just the most common in western music, but a scale is any sequence of notes ordered by pitch (ie always ascending/descending, not a mix like A-C-B-D.). The major (ionian) scale is defined by the intervals "tone, tone, semitone, tone, tone, tone, semitone", so the tonic (first note) is whatever you pick, the second is first note + one tone, third is second note + one tone, fourth is the third note + semitone, and so on up to the octave (5 tones + 2 semitones = 12 semitones = an octave in 12 tone systems). The natural minor scale (aeolian) and the other 5 modes (dorian, phrygian, lydian, mixolydian, locrian) are all the same pattern, but starting at a different point in the sequence -- eg natural minor starts on the 6th note of the major, so instead of "tone, tone, semitone, ...", it's "tone, semitone [last two intervals of major scale], tone, tone, semitone, tone, tone [first 5 intervals of major scale, since it loops back around]". Chromatic scale is just "semitone, semitone, semitone, semitone, semitone, semitone, semitone, semitone, semitone, semitone, semitone, semitone". There are theoretically 2^11 = 2048 different scales in 12 tone systems that repeat at the octave, as there are 11 notes between the tonic and the octave, for each of those 11 notes there are two choices -- it can either be included or not -- but in practice, scales tend to have at most 3 semitones between notes that are more or less equally distributed throughout the octave, which limits possibilities. Scales don't even /have/ to repeat at the octave, although it's obviously very useful if they do.

    • @em_the_bee
      @em_the_bee Рік тому

      @@voskresenie- oh yeah, I learned all that already in these 8 months, but thanks anyways

  • @misdrievousdemise3815
    @misdrievousdemise3815 2 роки тому +4

    I will NEVER get tired of hearing you talk about modes. I love hearing about the seldom spoken tips and tricks composers use to make incredible music, and combining that with video games, my favourite form of entertainment ever?? Count me IN.

  • @2_square
    @2_square 2 роки тому +95

    10:23 It is real, it's called the Fugu fish. My question is, how many times did they have to try until they figured out the correct way to prepare it?

    • @bmac4
      @bmac4 2 роки тому +11

      It also doesnt actually taste that good. Most people describe it as being an incredibly mild flavor, so much so that they typically use a type of spicy sauce to go with it.

    • @duane6386
      @duane6386 2 роки тому +1

      Pufferfish

    • @TheSaxAppeal
      @TheSaxAppeal 2 роки тому +7

      The toxin actually comes from shellfish being digested in the fugu's digestive tract, so farmed fugu aren't fed shellfish which means no toxin, perfectly safe fish meat

    • @MichaelWilliams-ow9ue
      @MichaelWilliams-ow9ue 2 роки тому

      secret origin of the kamikaze

  • @theGameBrass
    @theGameBrass 2 роки тому +6

    Thank you for making this video. I've been saying Locrian can be both beautiful and usable for years despite its bad rep.

  • @Metacious
    @Metacious 2 роки тому +4

    I do want a video about each mode :) It would help a lot to understand why they exist and how to make good use of them.
    Looking forward for the next video!

  • @nekurobaito
    @nekurobaito 2 роки тому +1

    There are a ton of videos about modes on UA-cam but not really much and not enough videos about modes in video game OSTs. Thank you for this locrian examples. Please do other modes and scales if you can.

  • @Stazma
    @Stazma 2 роки тому

    Cool video ! Got there a bit randomly as Locrian is probably the mode I use the most in my music since quite a few years.

  • @paix
    @paix 2 роки тому

    Thank you for using Oracle Of Seasons. I knew no one that played this back then.

  • @crumbledonkeythirtyseven
    @crumbledonkeythirtyseven 2 роки тому +8

    PLEASE DO ALL THE MODES THIS VIDEO WAS SO COOL AND USEFUL FRUCJING SERIOUSLY!!!! We love a king who can challenge our perceptions and get us to think of locrian as a viable resource and not just ‘useless and evil’ THANK YOU

  • @tomc.5704
    @tomc.5704 2 роки тому +1

    I'd be more than happy to hear more about modes.
    Heck, I'd even take another video on the Locrian mode with more examples

  • @kjarrij
    @kjarrij 2 роки тому +1

    I've been thinking about this alot recently, how fun it is to see this video just released.
    I have a 1 year old boy and every night I sing him to sleep. Sometimes it takes him a long time to fall asleep and so I got bored of my repertoire of songs to sing, so to keep myself from getting bored, I started taking various lullabies, hymns and other songs I know and changing them to other modes on the fly. Locrian is probably the hardest, but with enough practice it has become almost second nature to me and is now my favorite mode to do this in as it completely changes the character of the music. It feels strange at first, but once you get used to it it becomes completely normal and sometimes I forget how the original sounds. And it's not spooky or sinister at all, but eeriely beautiful and otherworldly.

  • @YingwuUsagiri
    @YingwuUsagiri 2 роки тому +35

    I just recently finished watching a music theory video on how almost no 'non videogame' song uses true Locrian except for Bjork's Army of Me and oh boy is that Locrian bassline awesome. In the same way as doom has that awesome Locrian guitar line

    • @AndrewMerideth
      @AndrewMerideth 2 роки тому +7

      It's definitely rare for sure, I happen to have found it in a movie soundtrack that I'll be posting a video analyzing soon. It was a pleasant surprise coming across it

    • @Booskop.
      @Booskop. 2 роки тому +7

      John Kirkpatrick's song "Dust to Dust" is the best example of a song in Locrian imo.

    • @AndrewMerideth
      @AndrewMerideth 2 роки тому +1

      @@Booskop. I agree, and if only it included the 6th to have the complete scale

    • @RafaelCDet
      @RafaelCDet 2 роки тому +7

      I guess the only "non videogame" genre where locrian is common is metal. In fact the E1M1 theme from Doom (1993) is actually based on the main riff from Metallica's Master of Puppets (1986).

    • @Zylo587
      @Zylo587 2 роки тому +3

      E1M1 always sounded more like "No Remorse" to me.

  • @BenGreen1980
    @BenGreen1980 2 роки тому +6

    It's kind of blowing my mind right now that the Locrian feels so spooky and dissonant, but it's the major scale of that ii note is the same set of notes and sounds bright and happy. The fact that shifting your tonal center down half a step COMPLETELY alters the feeling of the music is absolutely wild. Can you think of any examples of a song that changes from like a C major to a B Locrian or the other way?

  • @MarcoMeatball
    @MarcoMeatball 2 роки тому +3

    Modes really escaped me in music theory but gosh they’re so juicy. I’m glad they exist 😂

  • @Okapi540
    @Okapi540 2 роки тому +3

    Yes, please discuss the Phrygian mode! It's my favorite and I would love to hear examples of it in games.

  • @gilsinan
    @gilsinan 2 роки тому +1

    "At Doom's Gate" is like a Locrian 12 bar blues progression

  • @monkey_breath
    @monkey_breath 2 роки тому +1

    yes please! all the modes!!!! great job in this video, having a complete set of modes in this format, where you have three diverse but solid breakdowns for each would be epic, and an amazing learning tool for people. ultimately, do what you want to do, and keep up the great videos!

  • @Silvio_Nightwind
    @Silvio_Nightwind 2 роки тому +12

    The Samasa Desert theme from OOS has got to be one of my favorite themes from the Oracle games. It's just so good.

    • @LinkEX
      @LinkEX 2 роки тому +1

      As for Oracle of Seasons, I'm guessing either Tarm Ruins or Dancing Dragon Dungeon are your favorites?

    • @Silvio_Nightwind
      @Silvio_Nightwind 2 роки тому +1

      @@LinkEX Dancing Dragon is definitely one of them, but I'm actually extremely fond of Snake's Remains. The haunting melody in that piece really fits the dungeon, even if it is only the second one.

  • @pretzel1313
    @pretzel1313 2 роки тому +4

    Samasa Desert is one of my favorite tracks from the Oracle games, right up there with Tarm Ruins. Glad to know a bit more about it now!

  • @Codescify
    @Codescify 2 роки тому +16

    A couple other video game songs that use locrian mode:
    Gazing at Sirius from Fire Emblem Three Houses
    Nocturne of Shadow from Legend of Zelda Ocarina of Time
    Multitudes of Colors from Murasama: The Demon Blade
    House of Tricky Ninjas from Paper Mario The Origami King
    Flooded Basement theme from Sweet Home
    Also I agree, Locrian is not ugly or unusable, it's just not culturally as pervasive as the other modes so people's ears aren't trained to understand how it moves and functions. The more you experiment around with it the more it reveals its unique color to you. I would encourage all musicians to try writing something in Locrian.

  • @kaptenteo
    @kaptenteo 2 роки тому

    I enjoy your talking about modes, and I like the format you use here; explain the mode and then give some examples from different sources. 👍

  • @teaganp5011
    @teaganp5011 2 роки тому +1

    Love your analysis. I've been learning a ton. Please continue your mode videos. Really I'd be happy watching a video of you talk about whatever musical subject you like haha

  • @GameEndeavor
    @GameEndeavor 2 роки тому

    I work with modes a lot and would love to hear more about them. It's actually funny that you did this one because I just took my first try at Locrian just last week, so this was extremely useful.

  • @overtonesnteatime198
    @overtonesnteatime198 2 роки тому

    Nothing more interesting than music, music theory, music conversation, music wisdom, music application, and music

  • @freezejr2000
    @freezejr2000 2 роки тому +6

    7:00
    snaps on 2 and 4 is so engrained in me, I heard the bass as starting on 2 ( (1) 2 +3 __, etc ), and was confused when you said the snaps were on 1 and 3 until I went back and relistened. It took me about four times to hear it the way I did originally after being primed that the snaps were on 1 and 3

  • @progresiverocklover
    @progresiverocklover 2 роки тому +1

    I'd love to hear from you about ALL the other modes! Please make a series out of it!!!

  • @Josh_Fredman
    @Josh_Fredman 2 роки тому +2

    The modes are probably my favorite music theory subject! Like you said at the beginning, learning about the modes was an important gateway for me to learn a lot of music theory. To me the modes are like gateways to other worlds, whole realms of musical possibility hidden from our major/minor tonality paradigm. Then, when I learned later on that "the modes" are really just "the modes of the major scale," and that every other scale also has its own system of modes, I truly did feel like I'd found the keys to the musical multiverse.

  • @prollybee
    @prollybee 2 роки тому

    when you played the sample arpeggio, i immediately thought of narshe! loved the video ty for grounding this weird one for me

  • @williestroker3404
    @williestroker3404 Рік тому

    mellow, wandering, a little melancholy, got
    image of hiding under bush from a light rain then
    coming out to a few bird calls. A bit restless,
    purposeless, wistful. Often jazzy. Good background
    for drinking and chatter.

  • @raffa9783
    @raffa9783 2 роки тому

    thank you so much, want to learn all about different timbres and vibes from various scales. Really helpful!

  • @sinisterminister3322
    @sinisterminister3322 2 роки тому

    I didn’t realize how much video games use modes, but it makes sense. Great video.

  • @0ctopusComp1etely
    @0ctopusComp1etely 6 місяців тому

    I'm so happy you remember and respect the Oracle soundtracks. Darm Ruins/ Lost Woods and Zelda's Awakening live rent-free in my earworm brain. The Skull Dungeon goes pretty hard too.

  • @JVGJonny247
    @JVGJonny247 2 роки тому

    Please keep making videos on the modes, I love seeing how they are used in video games!

  • @nickbrian9882
    @nickbrian9882 2 роки тому +1

    This is the video I needed!!! I’ve always had trouble getting the Locrian mode to work because of the obvious unstable root chord, but this video really helped me understand how to utilize the mode to convey more “color” in my music! Thanks so much!!! :)

  • @mezzovii
    @mezzovii 2 роки тому

    i don't know crap about basic music theory, but i like hearing your voice, i like video games, and i like learning, so it's a big win. +1 sub

  • @KarenAshbrook
    @KarenAshbrook 10 місяців тому

    This is excellent! especially your harmony analysis. I teach a course on modes, but I don't cover the Locrian mode (other than what the notes are), so this video is an excellent supplement to my course. I know my participants will enjoy your other mode videos to (as will I)! Thank you.

  • @TheJH1015
    @TheJH1015 2 роки тому +17

    I would LOVE to learn more about modes!

  • @aschmelyun
    @aschmelyun 2 роки тому

    I honestly know next to nothing about music theory, but your videos are incredible to just sit and take in.
    I'd love to eventually see a deep dive into one of my absolute favorite retro video game soundtracks: ActRaiser for the SNES

  • @RamonK.
    @RamonK. 2 роки тому

    Great video. I love learning more about modes and their practical use - modes are my favourite topic concerning music.

  • @EsferaltdLOL
    @EsferaltdLOL 2 роки тому

    Everything you have to teach us is pure gold for me! Specially information about the modes! I love your videos 😊

  • @BookooZenny
    @BookooZenny 2 роки тому

    modes are endlessly fascinating & inspiring imho. keep em comin!

  • @isaiahhowe8493
    @isaiahhowe8493 10 місяців тому

    the puffer fish is a delicacy but only professional chefs know how to make it very deadly.

  • @KorriTimigan
    @KorriTimigan 2 роки тому

    I'd love to hear about all of the modes! I find them so interesting but super difficult to grasp sometimes, and your videos are very accessible. So please, more!

  • @kokopelli434
    @kokopelli434 2 роки тому

    Oooh, someone’s ramping up the quality. This is good 👏👏👏👏

  • @MaxwellKozen
    @MaxwellKozen 2 роки тому

    Peripheral issue but: can confirm, the pufferfish sushi thing is real.

  • @brysonbugay1563
    @brysonbugay1563 2 роки тому +4

    I just wanna say, I love the modes. They're one of my favorite aspects of music theory.

  • @LZ02-OVERTURE
    @LZ02-OVERTURE Рік тому +2

    Old video and I doubt you'll see this but an amazing example of the Locrian mode that is 100% locrian and not a form of a japanese iwato scale (like your Zelda last example here) is The Pursuer's theme from Dark Souls 2! Worth checking out, whole track riffs on the C locrian scale AND constantly uses the diminished I chord as its root (Cm7b5, which is the diminished 7th of the mode) without any fear.

  • @pikaporeon
    @pikaporeon Рік тому

    the snaps on 1 and 3 help with the unsettling vibe in Narshe

  • @sdw-hv5ko
    @sdw-hv5ko 2 роки тому

    Just wanna say that I often come to UA-cam when I'm feeling depressed and unmotivated to do anything but watching your videos make me so excited about music and help me to practice/transcribe/listen/engage with more music in any way. Very grateful for all your work!

  • @scottyroxwell
    @scottyroxwell Рік тому

    One of the best videos about Locrian! That was rad!

  • @TeslaMaster2
    @TeslaMaster2 2 роки тому +14

    The fish dish from the Simpons is definitely real. It's a pufferfish, called fugu in Japanese, and it has to be prepared by an especially licensed chef, so they don't include the toxic parts in the dish. Many people have died in the past due to the pufferfish's potent toxin.

    • @nthgth
      @nthgth Рік тому

      Stuff like that is why I'm perfectly happy just having pizza

  • @looney1023
    @looney1023 2 роки тому

    How did I never realize Caves of Narshe was in Locrian? Wow. Great video!

  • @ContiAugusto
    @ContiAugusto 2 роки тому

    Nice video, most modes are covered in a wide variaty of yotube videos but locrian is mostly untouch. It's great to see some examples of it in action to recognise it's potencial.

  • @BlaxeFrost-X
    @BlaxeFrost-X 2 роки тому

    I am very ambitious, I think a catalogue of your videos about every mode would be a great document for study of the topic

  • @MattyD209
    @MattyD209 2 роки тому

    Love hearing about the different modes. You can do all of em and I'll still listen

  • @vinny61389
    @vinny61389 2 роки тому +6

    The Oracle games have a ton of fantastic tunes, at least to an untrained ear like mine. Happy to see them mentioned here!

  • @moctawolf
    @moctawolf 2 роки тому +70

    A fellow music UA-camr and I actually challenged ourselves to make a Locrian-scale-only composition to prove just that : Locrian ≠ spooky !
    Remixer Darken's one is "Mode 7" on his channel, while mine is nammed ''Lacrima'' on my channel

    • @HieronymousLex
      @HieronymousLex 2 роки тому +1

      It’s a mode, not a scale

    • @phobics9498
      @phobics9498 Рік тому +2

      @@HieronymousLex A mode is a type of scale. Why the semantics

  • @SantiagoGT15
    @SantiagoGT15 2 роки тому +2

    As a synth player and composer, this is amazingly helpful for arpeggiators and progressions!

  • @louiselouise8990
    @louiselouise8990 2 роки тому

    Thank you so much! I love your videos! I desire to hear more analysis of the Fire emblem. Thanks!

  • @moddedmarimba9480
    @moddedmarimba9480 2 роки тому +1

    This is so awesome! It's great to see these modes used in practical and musical ways, separate from how they're taught in music school.

  • @mintegral1719
    @mintegral1719 2 роки тому +1

    That Final Fantasy song is delightfully eerie. The Locrian mode is definitely part of it, but that lo-fi string sound also plays a big role in the overall mood.

  • @kylerhamilton6676
    @kylerhamilton6676 2 роки тому

    DO ALL THE MODES!! I love your stuff 😭, please I want more🙏🏾❤️

  • @Ashi8No8Yubi
    @Ashi8No8Yubi 2 роки тому +5

    The fish you mentioned is real. It's popular in Japan where it's called Fugu.

  • @MSuspiriorum
    @MSuspiriorum 2 роки тому

    Please do more videos on modes like this one! This was super helpful and informative!! :D

  • @CapnLightning
    @CapnLightning 2 роки тому +1

    Oh my word, yes! Please talk more about modes. I would absolutely love more!

  • @williamgomes216
    @williamgomes216 2 роки тому +1

    Nice video, 8-bit Music Theory! Would be interested in hearing about the other modes, especially the differences between aeolian and traditional minor.

  • @KooriGraywolf
    @KooriGraywolf 2 роки тому +1

    I can't hear "sus" without giggling internally. Among Us memes have broken me

    • @FriedCheese412
      @FriedCheese412 2 роки тому

      Yep, anytime I try to explain music theory to someone who doesn't know a lot about it they're always like "SUS??? SUS AMONG US?!? 😱😱😱"

  • @JJJocarra
    @JJJocarra 2 роки тому

    I would very much enjoy more videos from you about modes! They were something I always ignored in theory as a little kid because they were just something to memorise and were never explained - just some different scales I guess, but why? But watching your videos makes it very clear that they are wonderfully descriptive, and useful in evoking particular "colours" or atmospheres that I very much would have liked to have appreciated when I was younger. So, yes! Please!

  • @gaudrhin
    @gaudrhin 2 роки тому

    Phrygian mode has always been my favorite, so cannot wait for that one. Frankly, just having vg music identified within modes is making me happy. Thanks for these videos!

  • @genaromorales6946
    @genaromorales6946 2 роки тому

    I'm always up for modes! especially seeing different flavors of the mode like you did in this video

  • @brometheus___
    @brometheus___ 2 роки тому

    I would honestly love a series on the different modes! You have a great talent for making things interesting and digestible, and the modes are a topic I would like to learn more about.

  • @JesterWhoHelps
    @JesterWhoHelps 2 роки тому +1

    Came here for original DOOM.
    Leaving after compliments on new doom.

  • @MTGR
    @MTGR 2 роки тому

    Great video! You can also hear the zelda example as alternating between E Locrian and D Aeolian

  • @mostafabalboul3966
    @mostafabalboul3966 2 роки тому

    10:24 - that is right! Pufferfish produces a dangerous tetrodotoxin, which is why it needs to be prepared in a very specific way to avoid bad outcomes.

  • @shredjward
    @shredjward 2 роки тому

    Hey yeah please keep going on the modes this was a great insight! Im also extremely interested in your video about working within a scale model and using multiple keys within that

    • @shredjward
      @shredjward 2 роки тому

      Also the poisonous fish thing is real, pretty sure its a japanese thing but i dont remember the name

  • @thalesmatos
    @thalesmatos 2 роки тому

    This channel is the best music theory resource for modern composers on the whole internet.

  • @ldiajvclxizo
    @ldiajvclxizo 2 роки тому

    I can't wait for a Dorian video... Awesome series.

  • @AightonBass
    @AightonBass 2 роки тому +1

    Love this content. A video on the Lydian scale would be perfect!

  • @albertovidal287
    @albertovidal287 2 роки тому

    broo i loved the video ty!! Im so glad that i can understand this sort of stuff lmao

  • @Run2TheGun
    @Run2TheGun 2 роки тому

    i simply love listening to you talk about music

  • @smoothbeak
    @smoothbeak 2 роки тому

    Lovely, these videos are great for sparking creativity

  • @pointofnoreturn3103
    @pointofnoreturn3103 2 роки тому

    Hi! I don't think I have ever commented on one of your videos before, but my husband and I enjoy watching them! My name is Susan. It's nice to meet you! I am not a jazz musician. I am a CNA, but my musical background is opera. ...I just wanted to say how much the Locrian scale sounds like a whole tone scale. I have been listening to ALW's Phantom of the Opera since I was in high school. I think, by far, that the most challenging part of the score to learn simply by ear, without seeing the written notes to play on a piano keyboard occurs in the Down Once More sequence. The orchestra gives Christine her starting pitch, and then she sings "Have you gorged yourself at last in your lust for blood? Am I now to be prey to your lust for flesh?" The combination of downward and upward notes sounds EXTREMELY Locrian! As well it should, considering she is asking the Phantom if he is about to rape her. The Phantom's music that he had written for his opera "Don Juan Triumphant!" is based on the whole tone scale. You might find it interesting to analyze ALW's score for especially the second act of POTO! Of course, the decision is completely up to you! But, the musician in you might really love it! Thanks for making your videos! We really enjoy them! Susan