Airbus Vahana and it comparison with the BlackFly
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- Опубліковано 28 чер 2024
- In this video we will look at the Airbus Vahana. We will cover all its technical details. In the later part of the video, we will compare the Vahana with the BlackFly.
The Vahana consumes more than times the energy compared to the BlackFly. - Наука та технологія
BlackFly’s simplicity is brilliant.
The simplicity of the blackfly design is what makes it a genius Personal flying device. The possibility of vtol transition to forward flight without moving wings and no moving parts than the propellers is totally convincing. It requires less maintenance and has less possibility of failing parts, is lighter and even affordable for „normal“ people.
Well done man, great points. I love the black fly since its first launch and there is very little info on the internet about it so thanks for that video.
I've never heard of _Dutch Roll_ before. Thank you for teaching me a new word. I love this channel so much.
I'm so glad!
Thank you for very interesting videos! I will continue look at your future productions. Keep it up!
Just love your video! Great job!
Great presentation and good comparison 👌
great and useful video, will continue to watch many other of your videos
Love your videos! Btw, how is Lilium progressing? Its been very quiet from them lately. What is their next milestone?
Next up will be a review of upcoming battery tech and also a video on Solar Impulse
Excellent information !
Thank you for making this public :)
Its awesome that firms are tackling these craft, so that real progress actually gets made toward things like shrinking size, reducing mass, etc, ....but, its still disconcerting to see that so much vehicle is still required to aerially transport a single human being. The future is bright but the present is still pretty unsexy.
Very well done analysis. Thank you for putting this together!
My pleasure!
Very nice video. Keep up the good work.
Blackfly would be my choice any time! So simple and intuitive!
Its beauty is in its simplicity
Always enjoy your videos, ^oo^
Very good, thank you.
I like Vahana's concept over Black Fly. Tilting wings will not add much complexity, but allows to avoid that awkward rider's position at take offs and landings. Vahana surely needs to get slimmer a bit but the concept is there and seems to be proved.
Like Ehang has backing from the Chinese government, the US may benefit by offering incentives for further development of skyway and personal eVTOL.
if we put spiral duct wing to opner black fly can it be more advantageous?
2:35 hmm cloud-based navigation ooh mesh net probably not but still neat point about the navigation weight
i can see the BLACKfly suitable with military use even with today specs!
great video thanks
You are welcome!
I would have liked to see the Lilium in the comparison. Good video . It makes me wonder why Airbus wound up with this machine. Were they using this project to evaluate junior engineers?
It was a tech demonstrator only...they did not know the final marketable size and design so they did not want to put effort into certification...
I wonder if having the multiple props almost completely spanning the wings give it greater lift efficiency, like NASA's Maxwell plane.
It does during cruise, but during VTOL it consumes more
Can a gas turbine APU replace the batteries in these types of e-aircraft to provide useful range and payload until battery technology improves enough to be truly practical ?
Blackfly is a very interesting solution for people living in remote areas or mountens. If I would live in remote vally I certenly would buy one.
What's the battery c rate I watched this whole video and it wasn't included. This is a critical parameter
12 or 21 kWh for the Blackfly in the last sumup board?
12 kWh
Thank you
You're welcome
Which is your favorite eVTOL aircraft?
And which one is the most advanced in your opinion?
Its Blackfly because of its simplicity. Vahana is the most advanced. Boeing had a good one too, but I don't like it
I like both blackfly and Vahana, but Lilium is the best eVTOL out there. Blackfly needs two-passenger + groceries, longer range ( later battery ), faster top speed. Vahana discontinued - HUGE MISTAKE. City Airbus is not built for range [like Vahana].
To me The Black fly is the piper cub of aviation. Inexpensive and simple, can take off from remote locations, It may be the entry level VTOL for most people. As a pilot i would prefer a heavier, faster, longer range model, for licensed pilots.
@@jbird6609 Yeah, that's a big advantage-- no pilot license for the Blackfly.
@@jbird6609 The international version with the 12kwh batteries could be licensed in U.S. Light-Sport category for longer range and faster speed but would require a Light-Sport pilot license. It would also have to pass certification requirements which would probably double the cost, though. In Canada a Basic Ultralight can be up to 450kg. The first versions were developed and flown here so have already flown in that category. Similar rules in the EU would allow that version but in both cases a pilot license is required.
I think the pilot enclosure particularly to Blackfly is just wrong. Some of the flight attitudes seem disconcerting for the pilot to say the least, but it is fixable with an innovation.
I have never been a fan of tandem wings because the aft wing suffers from the airflow of the canard, but Blackfly offers a refreshing configuration which likely avoids previous disadvantages.
Although I have seen video of this aircraft before your reports highlight some credible aspects I previously didnt consider, kudos....
I flew the Blackfly simulator at Airventure in Oshkosh. It is basically fly-by-wire like a drone with altitude hold, return to home and autoland capabilities. It also has radar altimeters to aid in landing. It's extremely easy to fly as a result.
Yes I looked at their site and they mention features like heading hold and location hold, which would be familiar to those that have operated drones before, so I suspect they are sharing that kind of technology. We already know they conducted a lot of hours pilotless so we also know it can be remotely piloted too. The disconcerting part of the flight envelope is that the aircraft transitions 90 degrees between vertical or ascent mode and forward flight, therefore it follows the pilot also goes through that 90 degrees too. Most people wouldnt find it acceptable to take off with your feet over your head and not having any possible view of the intended flight path forward, and Im not at all fond of the canopy as it limits escape from the machine should it crash upside down. But as I say these things are fixable.
Not sure they are still around as they havent been heard of for over a year now.
@@marcusl9441 Im sorry but, thats impossible
Dude, Brushles Motors means AC.....
No they're considered DC as they're just electronically commutated. From the winding's perspective everything's an AC motor.
Blackfly is the much smarter design.
Both of these NEED a canopy parachute considering their target market.
always place a very big round aluminium pipe at bottom of every single aerial vehicle.
Many words and long video for a simple comparison of both carrying a single passenger of what weight to what max range at what cruise speed? And what safety features exist in either case, what are the control systems like???
Jaunt air vs joby aviation would be cool
8:13 wrong info about motors and controllers: BLDC (brushless) motors are type of alternate current motors. They only works in conjunction with electronic speed controller, which is a synonym to inverter. Of course there are some differences in inverter design depending on concrete type of motor it is powering, but in ANY case it is a hi-powered electric device which transforms source electric power (DC current from battery) into alternating current for the motor. There is no way around it, both aircrafts uses them.
I can’t believe how large they made this aircraft for a single seater
Do you think blackfly will evolve into a sport aviation similar to wingsuits? My adrenaline goes up only imagining a steep gliding descent.
I feel it will evolve into a flying machine that you can keep in your garage/backyard. If you try to shrink it further, then the energy consumed goes up drastically which reduces flight time. I would rather keep it the same size and increase the flight time with better batteries
WIngs have a much better glide angle than the dead rotors of a qaudcopter during power failure.
"Last mile exploration vehicle" this use-case/application is new in GA...
I'm ready to be a proud owner of the black fly
"More than times"? Is that a lot?
What the heck was that theater segment from 1:10 on?!? Actors in a board room with a cork board featuring neatly-arranged blank post-it's and a weekly white board with "Thurs: Final Flight". Add a licensed 70's pop song and you have another generic pharmaceutical commercial. The Vahana was playing ever more the vaporware part with a space-age powered canopy and every electronic doodad buzzword to keep it weighed down to the earth instead of being focused on lightweight and efficiency. You know- like an aircraft. The Blackfly is on the other hand also a single-seater but with comparatively simpler design and tech plus a light weight to even land it in the ultralight aircraft class. I would put my money on the Opener Blackfly- after it reaches a few years of production.
the blackfly with a small jet, no?
Black Fly is my Aircraft
38KWh / (8 x 45KW) = .1055h or just over 6 1/2 minutes flying time. I think I see their problem.
Vahana can't land on water
A brushless controller IS AN INVERTER.
I find Blackfly smoother
I want to buy a black fly , not for sale yet. 😵 U.s. model has inferior power and range, less fun less safe. 🤔
all still wishful thinking and fairy tale hour
Blackfly all the way
Pity these two aircraft are COMPLETELY incomparable! The Blackfly is pitched as a no-license-needed Part 103 Ultralight aircraft whereas the Vahana is a experimental aircraft, with all the limitations and regulations that requires.
The Blackfly is a glorified multirotor toy on steroids, the Vahana was a serious small-scale tilt-rotor aircraft case study.
Why in the heck is not the blackfly for sale?
.gov or their partner big tech must have paid them to shutter it and sit on it.
Sadly the inly way get one is to make one yourself which is very possible!
Its to do with FAA. They dont have regulations in place to approve electric aircraft
"Vahana" terrible name.
Sounds like a character in the Austin Powers movies.
i think Lilium is better than everything out there right now
Isn't that the one with literal Jet Engines?
@@Sovereign_Citizen_LEO nope
blackfly win
One company builds an aircraft for show, while the other company intends to sell there aircraft to the general public for a reasonable price. Perhaps if the two companies merge we'd get an aircraft with a decent landing gear that won't jar all your electronic loose. lol.
BlackFly: Cool and affordable and coming soon - Vahana: Boring and expensive and not available
Vahana is no good, way to complicated and big. Black fly is much more simple yet more advnaced, much much better design.
If it weighs too much and you have to get a pilots license for it it’s a waste because most Americans aren’t gonna be able to get a pilots license to fly the damn thing.
The BlackFly can land and take off on water. I don't think The Vahana can do that.
BlackFly wins.
I don’t know, something about the black fly’s presentation just feels like a scam.
I wondered why you kept saying WIGGLE, then I realised you meant VEHICLE. Lol!
Nothing is happening with the black fly.
propelsers :D
HeavySide is better than both, fight me.
Airbus riped off the design
Exactly. But they still can't get it right (and all the decades of innovation put into the Black Fly).
Vahana design is terrible.
boy, Airbus engineers failed big time
brother take some breaths between sentences
I don't think you should make videos. The vocal audio is cringe.