Jetoptera's Bladeless Propulsion System
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- Опубліковано 29 вер 2024
- In this video we will be looking at Jetoptera's Bladeless Propulsion System that utilizes fluid induction.
There are several advantages of doing this specially in conjunction with boxwings.
At present Fluidics propulsion system will utilize GE aviation gas turbine but it can use an electric turbine as well.
Interesting concept, I wonder if this could be applied to boats, with an electric fan. I’m thinking particularly to the small dingy and kayak/ trolling sectors where hands and animals proliferate.
That is actually a very good idea. I am sure people looking at submarine propulsion would be extremely interested and even boats
Good question about boats.
another thing to look into is how large ships also pump air under themselves to reduce drag, could be really interesting
Also for a kayak you could probably test it with a 3d-printed set of parts, would love to see that become a reality
Pump-jet on watercraft have quite a few similarities.
Tom Clancy wrote about such a submarine drive in The Hunt for Red October, in the 80's.
I’m strapping a few Dyson hairdryers on my belt, just watch me fly
Let me know if that idea takes off. 😁
Spinny you are a sick puppy ,let me know if it works
YA, I'm looking at my Dyson fan right now, cool beans
I'm only here to see if I can use this tech on my eboard.
@Muckin 4on haha
Your not working fancy electronic crap nearly burnt your house down
3 phase brushless motors should be ancient and I am also amazed that a Chinese company hasn't......
Great video, I look forward to hearing more about this concept. The idea of a more simple VITOL craft is needed. The viability of the small electric craft makes it quite interesting and makes it more financially viable. I really hope this development works.
It is easy for those with a negative mind to sit there and say it won't work, but developers like this need as much encouragement as possible......
Keep going Jetoptera!
Jet Octera is really a great invention over the centuries.I believe it will build a highly technical change in Aircraft Aviation in coming days.Bravo !!!
Exceptional video! I've never seen this channel until today, but was elated to find that although you have an accent the content was very good. I've seen people with accents believe they can never do things like UA-cam because of it, but I think videos like yours are proof that it's all about the quality of the content.
Duh...
We all have accents. Why couldn't he be successful?
I watched that other guy market his "flying car" for a few decades. I always laughed at it because it was basically a helicopter. This design is actually innovative and gives me cause for optimism. I wouldn't call it a "flying car" because it doesn't look at all suitable for driving around town. But as a door-to-door mode of long-distance travel it looks to be phenomenal. It would give me the ability to randomly visit family 900 miles away without the need for planning, taking time off work, or dealing with airports.
its still an aircraft so you would have to plan and deal with airports and controlled airspaces
This is one of the coolest videos I have ever watched on UA-cam...
So I take it you have never seen many youtube videos
Bernoulli's ghost nods and smiles
i would have thought coanda.
coandah worked on the outside.. Bernouli worked inside a manifold.. but they are the same ideas derived from observations.. and measurements.. science is all about measuring the Universe we live in.. if you don't see the math It's not science.. ...
now.. think about a personal sized dirigible.. can land anywhere, even water.. with solar cells printed on the skin.. and a neutral buoyancy from helium... with palladium instead of aluminum.. it's almost impossible to melt as AuPd.. lighter than aluminum.. stronger than steel... steel has a density of 7.7.. palladium starts as 8.8.. it's like plastic steel.. mixed with gold... and it is definitely lighter than aluminum and I am not sure how .. it's a measurable phenomenon that happens each time I make AuPd
it's not rare or hard to find... it's going to Change the World
first up.. palladium foil 1m³ helium balloons .. many.. and a 7.5 m² parachute to hold them together.. silk and shellac create a very strong bio plastic for the outside... and.. the pilot seat.. to see what happens... I am working on it now
Thanks, your explanations are clear and easy to follow without being handwavy
This same principle is used by some camping beds and beach couches where you gently blow into the inflation tube which is specially designed to multiply the air, and it blows up the whole couch.
Your breath creates a pressure difference and a flow which pulls in the surrounding air to fill the entire thing with very few breaths. Pretty cool.
That’s just a simple way to see this principle in action with your hands and your own breath. It’s pretty magical when b you see it work! One breath and the bed is almost full! It’s pretty crazy… science is awesome
It works the same on my blow up doll
A concept that may become a landmark to aviation. Interesting. Keep it up.
6:26: this video Gets a LOVE. I don't get the principle behind it, but VT without visible downward facing thrusy just blew my mind.
this channel is so well researched. great to watch
Much appreciated!
What !!!!
One huge advantage of this concept for application to flying cars and urban air mobility is the lack of exposed rotors/propellers. Designs like the Ehang 216, for example, feature exposed rotors that are hazardous to life and limb, limiting flexibility for boarding, and operations around people.
Very good description of how the system works. Thank you!
Amazing breakthrough I'm eagerly looking forward to seeing more and more about this.
It seens to be a nice option for implementing electric aviation in mass, mainly because the security of not using propeller that can damage people arround the aircraft
7:57 good old sketchup.
Very well made Video and explanation……… as an airline pilot, I was often surprised when I heard of electric aeroplanes (without propellers)……… now I get it…….. also, pilotless planes are already in existence. So, very soon there will be very few pilot jobs!
Nice, this is basically a F1 car that creates lift rather than down force. Combined with a "new" propulsion technology. Beautiful :0
This all looks lovely in CGI but back in the real world these fall down when transitioning between flight modes.
It's still cool, if they are improving their design and working out the kinks
Even if in this case the kink is falling out of the sky
The model at least seems to be flight worthy. And there are already aircraft using the exact same transition method, albeit with classic jet or prop engines. It really only depends on being able to generate enough forward thrust to reach sufficient aerodynamic lift through airspeed before losing vertical lifting capabilities.
@@JescoLincke the transition is easy to do in CGI, or in a sentence, but it has to happen reliably in the real world. It is not a trivial problem.
@@kalliste23 I agree that it is all but trivial. But the principle has been proven to work in certain aircraft already in use (e.g. Osprey or other tilt-rotor-aircraft). That doesn't make development of this concept any easier, but it shows it could be done.
@@JescoLincke Osprey is a good example - go back and check out the history of the development of the Osprey and the mind boggling amount of money that involved.
I’ve used an air moving device underground for ventilation called a ‘ladies waist’ that works on the same design for over 30 yrs. Hardly new or innovative. Achieving the lift and thrust to carry someone would be awesome to see.
Yes! At last a flying car. Now we just need the floating lane markers. Let's go!
Thank you for noting that the Dyson fan has a compressor with blades. That always irritated me when others claimed it has no blades.
Excellent video and discussion 👏
very good explanation of the coanda effect
COANDA EFECT. BRILLIANT PROJECTS CONGRATULATIONS
It looks so futuristic!
A great explanation for the tech
Interesting to see that new ideas are put into something useful. Think of to appear at an RC airplane fair with a Jetoptera model!
Jetoptera themselves have an 1/6 scale RC model of their aircraft which they have demonstrated to fly
Excellent, I wonder how it’ll perform under various weather conditions…
If this works its brilliant because it is so counter-intuitive. You're pushing the airplane with moving air whose kinetic energy is its mass times the square of its velocity, so higher exhaust velocity means more push per kilogram of air expelled. Surprising it can entrain enough air to overcome this plus friction drag in the duct.
Awesome explanation.
my friend its a dream come true just watching your video? funny thing about the dysan vac thing i thought the same thing when it first came out! those llate tv informercial ? when the world was innocent and naïve!! shame on those people that incinerated my June cleaver world !! well atleast we have your wonderful news!! carry on!!
What is neglected in the explaination is that the low pressure area (which does exist), draws air from front (which they talk about) AND draws air in from behind (not mentioned at all).
Cool stuff. Fantastic for small, cheaper to run aircraft
Indeed!
If their efficiency gains were real then why doesn't GE just wrap a huge ring around their jet engines... Coanda double bypass! Lol they don't even fly their model with this design, just a regular ducted fan. If the major manufacturers are spending billions of dollars for single digit efficiency improvements i can't imagine them blatantly overlooking a 50% gain.
I tried to get an engine builder to test this type of air flow inducing system to replace turbos for a car engine. Basically the air flow system would suck the exhaust out of the cylinder by placing a low pressure area at the exhaust valve. Instead of pushing air into the cylinder, one would be pulling air in. He thought I was not worth the time unless I had $4000.00 a day for him to test the concept. Since I did not, nothing was ever done.
Good plan!
Start small and build!
The promise of low noise is particularly appealing, but I'd like to see some performance numbers of this novel propulsion scheme. I'm also thinking that this might also make a quieter leaf-blower possible.
Best concept yet
Very interesting technology , If it is success on commercial front Automotive and Aviation will get another turn in Technological advancement
I think that is better than exposed blade,awesome
this is perfect for my perpetual motion free energy generator
I keep hearing "Jet-of-Terror".
When Skynet starts making these things, I suppose that would be the appropriate name? 😂..... wait.......🤔
Hahaha 😭 lol
I keep looking at that canard that blocks the intake on the front it bugs me. Maybe it could be a perminent open sort of slit downward part of the nose and then have the canards more stream-lined on the sides of the nose? I would also save weight on not having to have the hydrolics that move and pull them into the body as well as the computer chips/parts.
Does Dyson have the patent on that type of fan? Is the Toshiba patent expired? That seems unfair.
Tesla invented the Radiant Energy Collector but never got any credit for the solar cell.
Thanks for this video it has led to a new idea. RIP Stanley.
How much are they, I'm completely sold on this.
Let's get this scaled up guys.
I've been watching them for a while now, and while I understand about IP, I'm surprised that no one else has copied their designs. I wish them all the luck in the world. And it all started with a couple of guys in Ohio. Gee, where have I heard that phrase before?
This has been used in industry for decades.
Industrial products have been available for decades.
Dyson did not release the first product.
A excellent concept design for propulsion but what would great is VOTOL design for air-tax that can carry 4-6 people.
Great video!
The shape of a fresbee or flying saucer, with power source at center may improve resistence to gravity.
Please note that every flying aircraft in this video use conventional electric ducted fans ONLY, which makes me suspect that the entire propulsion concept is BS.
That's freaking cool
Nice vid. but remember, it is 'aircraft', both singular and plural.
This could potentially allow for SSTO, as their bladeless engines could easily be adjusted mid-flight for Ram-jet. If the right material are used, possibly move to Scram-Jet.
Ramjet wont get you to orbit. You need a rocket engine mode too, at that point you might aswell go with SABRE
Honest question: Why does a larger volume of air being moved mean better thrust and efficiency? Isn't the aircraft still pushing against the surrounding air with the same amount of force?
The shape of the compressor blades is exactly the same shape that wind turbines should be, in my opinion, then it doesn't matter which direction the wind is blowing.
These are basically Coanda ejectors, which have been known about for a long time. Their efficiency is not all that good, since, like conventional ejectors, they rely on lossy processes to transfer energy from a high momentum flow to a low momentum flow. I am curious (and skeptical) about the breakthrough that is implied here.
I wonder if there's some kind of Tesla turbine that works with air as well as it would or does with water.
An invention from the 1800s is starting a vehicle back into these concept crafts you guys are working on.
Imagine replacing the tip jets on a rotodyne design with these much quieter "bladeless" tips. I'm no rocket scientist by any means, but if this design can generate a power output close to or better than the tip jets of a rotodyne, that would virtually solve the "noise" issue, thus making such a compound flying vehicle much more viable and applicable in modern times.
Cool new dyson.
This is interesting but does the distribution of energy accomplish the work needed from the turbine? The Dyson fan uses an internal electric fan to drag more air through the venturi in order to cool a room. I don't know if the Dyson design takes less energy to do the same work as compared to a traditional fan. Does the Jetoptera use less energy than a traditional jet aircraft to do the same work? Is it advantageous at this time?
Put landing legs on reinforced canards and on the big rear lower thrust vectoring flaps. Now throw away all that heavy landing gear. Put a skid on the Fuselage and wing tips if you must land in forward flight.
wish you would get success in the theory .
I’m a bit confused. So are there internal blades inside the system like the dyson?
Or is it using a compressed air kind of like a handheld can of compressed spray air?
This is what I see powering flying cars, bikes, even starships in low atmosphere.
Must be safer than lawn mower blade-like propeller.
Thank you for explaining how a lifelong dream may actually be coming true !
Can this be paired with a ion engine? Then you have aircraft with out moving parts!!!
How do you reliably maintain yaw stability in this kind of craft? Canards are tough beasts with even the most basic and otherwise-conventional designs. I like the efficiency measures, but what about safety?
Excellent technical description. The 1100 dislikes must be Musk watching it that many times trying to grasp the concept. hehheh Sub'd.
scary cool, yet inevitable!
There are moving parts in scram jet engines such as fuel pumps and fuel injection system
What about turning turbine up site down. So the suction turbine is on top and sucks air from top - vertically up? So it may create additional lifting power
If I understand correctly, this works by lift augmentation, which implies you need an engine to augment the lift. What happens when the engine fails. Does it drop like a stone? Even a helicopter can auto-rotate. And relying on a parachute seems dangerous.
Is it able to land in water? Waterproof? And should it have a type of propulsion in case it lands in the water? Or have a device to create buoyancy in case it lands in the water?
Oh, how I wish! Two in my driveway soon!? Will this also fit the FAA part 103? If this not, needing the turbine, but maybe the newest to batteries in development? Now I really wish I was 40 years younger!
I believe this idea will work on cars and improve hi way gas mileage
Outstanding!!
Even if bladeless were not as efficent or powerful as a traditonal prop plane this would cut off on a lot of weight, which is what will allow such articulated thrusters.
Looks great
At the time an Jet was not yet invented always the fear of explosion was the result of it not having been from rockets. When looking upon it.
Faltou para paraquedas e porta malas pra poder ir no supermercado fazer compras. 😂🤣
Why isn't air multiplication applied to traditional jet engines, by having the multiplier at the back of the turbine, to provide additional thrust?
This is the Coanda effect as said at 3:12
imagine this technology coupled with vector thrust + controlled boundary layer through electric/magnatic field induced. Wonder how much maneuverability and efficiency can be achieved.
for the record the J-58 engines of the blackbird are not ramjets, though they use some ramjet concepts. this is also a common misconception
Hoo boy this announcer. I kept hearing "jet of terror" over and over. And at the end:"maybe, just maybe, this pain will come true."
Basically Dyson-Ventilators and Hairdryers as a Propulsion-System, a lot safer for Birds and IndianaJones' Villains.
Exactly, That's the basics, they just use wordplay.
yeah they dont have to worry about getting shredded by a propeller blade but still have to worry about getting hit by a plane going 300 mph
@@mason2699 I would guess that the forces of going though would lead to death..
Birds would probably be ripped apart by the high pressure air. Also the compressor needs some kind of intake.
So more ducted fans using bypass air. Nothing new under the sun.
It will be interesting to see how the thrust-to-weight ratio works out for the full-scale, manned and fully-equipped aircraft.
In other words you want your fat mother in law to be a test pilot just to make sure lighter loads can be carried with a HUGE margin of safety ?
@@WilliamRNicholsonLST-1195 As the old saying goes: better safe than sorry.
I proudly state that I am Old School and reject the new-fangled 'Risk Assessment' approach for the tried & true 'Risk Avoidance' approach.
This might make an interesting motorcycle drive system. Very inexpensive compared to a geared system.
@@pauld6967 Watching the 6 month planned Inspiration4, which set numerous records for humanity, implemented quite a few large-scale never-done-before changes... like the Cupola in place of docking capabilities, gave me a new found respect for the modern way.
@@pauld6967 lmao what are you talking about?
Firstly, risk assessment and risk avoidance are fundamentally the same, they avoid unnecessary risk. Secondly, there's no reason for safety to not progress on the principal of clinging to obsolete tradition.
You're welcome to stay in the past if you want to, that comes at the expense of innovation and progress. The rest of the world will be just fine moving on without you.
It's always weird to see someone who would rather kneecap themselves over tradition that has little to no value. Pride is a strange thing.
You explain this so well, I'm rooting for them to succeed!
Thank you for this very well made short documentary on this vehicle. It's a beautiful craft and I hope it becomes a reality. I think it's my favorite design for a personal flying machine so far.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Saint Rutan watches over all canard aircraft. 🙏🏻
I'm with you,this is the best looking personal craft I have seen so far. Would love to do the test flight in it.
"bladeless" - except for all the blades in the compressor feeding this system..........It seems nobody ever learns from history. The Americans and Canadians found that the "coanda effect" doesn't scale up to aircraft size after spending millions of dollars.
60 years ago - maybe they have solved the issues.
@@daviddesjardins7751 those guys 60 years ago pretty much reached the physical limits of what is possible in regards to jets.
What are you talking about? I’m interested in learning. (:
The Avro Car? the US took it all from Avro and it went black so we on't know where it ended up.
this IS coanda effect obviously, and im NOT seeing any benefit from this particular configuration.
If it was integrated into the wing chord for added lift it would make more sense.
I love the idea of using drones to scale up to a full size model. Reminds me of the movie flight of the Phoenix. A model airplane engineer is still accountable for all the same Elements for flight, same as a full size plane. Great work and I’d love to ride in one soon.
It seems that certification for human flight is super difficullt. There has been quite a few flying taxi projects. So far none has been granted human flight certification. None even from China, Dubai or Singapore. It has a long long road ahead.
@@catchnkill sounds like a conspiracy..."big air" is keeping us in a tube with the masses. 😆
You're a very good presenter. Took an interesting but complex subject, and really broke it down into something really understandable. Great video my dude! :)
Lol. Are you saying that to make him feel better about his thick Indian accent that is hard to understand?
So where can I invest in this unproven tech based on a novelty fan? Cause flying cars are a good idea.
😏
flying cars are a terrible idea: the sky will soon be as overcrowded as the roads are now.
we need flying busses, trains,...
@@darkswami Lol its crowded because you are limited to roads. No lanes in the sky...
Flying cars have existed for over 100 years. They are called airplanes.
@@darkswami flying busses already crowd the skies. They are called jumbo jets
I feel like they just strapped a few dyson fans onto a drone
Yeah it looks like that but these motors would have to deliver exponentially more power / thrust than its Dyson counterpart.
@@Ben7seven7 doesn't sound useful then, if it requires more work
Welcome to startups!
@@nicholasfinch4087 everything worth it requires effort or waiting for someone else's effort
Scale it up!!!
Great video and well written. This tech is something totally new to me and I've been in the biz quite a while. I'd love to see more videos on detailed thruster fluidics and other applications.
I love this. Please stop talking about flying cars. You dont want one. Go fly an airplane some, and understand, one cant pull over if there is a problem. So the reliability MUST be very high. Cars breakdown all the time. You never want an airplane to break down.
William Pierce It seems like people don’t really give these kinds of things a lot of critical thought. They just fall in love with the idea & stop right there..
William and Susan. Wouldn't it be nice if one could maintenance it in flight.
I LIKE TO SEE MORE OF THIS JETOPTERA'S BLADELESS PROPULSION SYSTEMS!
then you should do more research on it or work for the company
USING AS MANY CAPITAL LETTERS IN YOUR COMMENTS ALWAYS HELPS YOU GET WHAT YOU WANT. ADDING AN EXCLAMATION MARK WAS A NICE TOUCH TOO! WAY TO GO!
Or watch that guy the fly with 4 of this engines attached to his hands which btw weights 10x times more thant a paper plane .. lol research
@@norisarabio7307 what are you talking about?
TOTALLY AGREED @@unitrobe0 !
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I just found your channel yesterday & I'm EXTREMELY IMPRESSED with the amount of technical knowledge you're able to squeeze into a 10 -20 minute presentation. I hope you'll be coming out with new material soon because I'm almost through all of your videos, lol.
Keep up the outstanding work please...
Welcome aboard! and thank you son much. With the amount of research that goes into every video, its difficult for me to churn them out every week. I can do videos every fortnight