Porsche 356 - made by hand - documentary :-)

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  • @MartinSage
    @MartinSage 3 роки тому +44

    In 1965 our family was living in Wurzburg,Germany. My Dad's best friend was Otto Meyer. Otto took my Dad+ I on a ride up to Bremen to pick up his new 911. We rode in his 356 at 90 mph (max. speed) during the rain on the autobaun. Otto sold his old 356 to my Dad for $100!

    • @roberte.andrews4621
      @roberte.andrews4621 3 роки тому +6

      I bought Lou Fageol's 1953 356 Super, which he had modified to AWD. Yes! They couldn't achieve synchronization between the two engines, front and rear, and the unique Porsche was sold through a classified in ROAD & TRACK for about $3,500. After the second owner died when his chute didn't open, a couple Maytag engineers bought the car and raced it in SCCA F Production. I picked it up in December of 1959 for $700, a rumpled wreck with no bumpers and a VW camshaft. I spent the month stripping the many coats of paint, but my chemical remover wouldn't touch the original paint and primer, which was hard as ceramic. I had to sand that off! I had pro spray 17 coats of Lucite metallic silver gray, while I color-sanded between coats. The bumpers were retrieved from a farm, where they were stored by the parents of the second owner, who gave them to me without cost and their blessings. When I moved to California, October of 1961, I sold my 356 for $900 in Des Moines. Today, if restored, the '53 Super coupe would fetch $225,000 at auction. Ve get too soon old, und too late schmart! Or something like hat.

    • @VladimirDELOSRIOS-pf1ke
      @VladimirDELOSRIOS-pf1ke Рік тому +4

      i will give your dad $150!!!!

  • @space_114v2
    @space_114v2 6 років тому +47

    This is like watching Willie Wonka and the Chocolate factory for me. Such a blast from the past ...Very Magical :)

  • @ericl452
    @ericl452 3 роки тому +49

    The Super 90 engines were made for the 1960 to 1963 models. The bodies of the cars being built are 356B Type 5, built for the 1960 to 1961 models. This footage was taken between late 1959 and late 1961.

  • @AudreyH48
    @AudreyH48 Рік тому +7

    I'm a huge Porsche fan, and it's so cool to see the craftsmanship first hand of the 356 line. I wish I was alive in the 60's with money and knowledge of the 356 then. It would have been a family heirloom for sure. ❤

    • @escapefelicity2913
      @escapefelicity2913 10 місяців тому

      I was alive and bought a 67 912.
      To me the 356 looks like a bathtub.
      ;(

  • @wappomtrs
    @wappomtrs 3 роки тому +29

    This is a lost art indeed.
    There is a proud group of select craftsmen that cannot be hired in today's World ...
    Thanks for your posting!

    • @dickvolen4589
      @dickvolen4589 2 роки тому +1

      I am sure available.@ $150 per hour.

    • @pauloshea3741
      @pauloshea3741 2 роки тому

      @@dickvolen4589 Me too! I only work for people that i actually like.

    • @krusher74
      @krusher74 6 місяців тому +1

      this is just production line work, its not craftmanship.

  • @earlgandel7693
    @earlgandel7693 4 роки тому +6

    In 1960-64 I ran advertising and PR for Porsche in Southern California (Porsche Car Distributors) and "borrowed" a 16mm print of "Made by Hand", which I had for years until it disappeared. Never thought I'd see it again and able to share it with a lot of others.

    • @michaelmccormick1745
      @michaelmccormick1745 3 роки тому

      Hi Earl- Did you work for -or- with Competition Motors in Hollywood? That is where my 62 Coupe was imported and sold.

  • @anthonyxuereb792
    @anthonyxuereb792 3 роки тому +9

    In all my years of being a car enthusiast I have never heard of Reutter and it's contribution/connection with Porsche, I'm talking 60 years. Really a good
    example of never bring too old to learn.

  • @356Maniac
    @356Maniac 2 роки тому +3

    Unglaublichste die Autos zu damaligen Zeiten produziert wurden....

  • @dennisdaugs4138
    @dennisdaugs4138 3 роки тому +13

    I think i saw my 58Coupe! Its the one where the undercoat man took a lunch break 🙃

  • @mini2nut67
    @mini2nut67 2 роки тому +13

    Loved every minute of this film. The true automotive craftsman is long gone unfortunately. Automation and robots have taken over virtually all auto plants worldwide.

    • @christianloepfe179
      @christianloepfe179 Рік тому

      Aston Martin still builded by Hand.

    • @krusher74
      @krusher74 6 місяців тому

      This isnt craftmanship, that would be using hand tools, this is just production line work. A man trying to be a robot. You could learn to do any of these stages in less than a week, you dont need to be a skilled craftsman.

    • @GT380man
      @GT380man 5 місяців тому

      @@krusher74There are one or two operations which you probably couldn’t learn in such a short time, though your wider point is absolutely valid.
      The use of molten tin, it’s shaping using heat and a leather tool & subsequent filing & planing is harder to do well than it might appear. In this way, Porsche (& presumably all other manufacturers) get to hide panel junctions where they would otherwise be visible.

  • @alfa16471
    @alfa16471 2 роки тому +5

    Очень приятно было посмотреть как работали люди с душой , как работали с оловом как матовали под покраску ,как ставили коробку передач и.т.д. Спасибо за фильм.)))

  • @adamkoller5411
    @adamkoller5411 3 роки тому +2

    My dad bought a ‘61B super roadster in 1981 for $1500 with a broken crank in NY. I rebuilt a type one vw engine someone gave us, rebuilt the tranny, brakes, etc and drove it in high school and college. He sold it in the late 80’s for $10k.Today the same car fetches $100k restored. I have owned few other p-cars but nothing drove like that B roadster. Lovely cars. So fun to see the car I cut my automotive teeth on being made back in the day. I recognize every detail!

  • @TheSearaider
    @TheSearaider 2 роки тому +2

    love the tunes wish i was alive then

  • @acesantics1287
    @acesantics1287 6 років тому +10

    Wow that was incredible! It's amazing to see how thorough they are

  • @jockellis
    @jockellis 9 років тому +10

    Glad they showed Drauz. I got to see the guys who built my first Porsche. It was great fun.

  • @antonelloserpi5485
    @antonelloserpi5485 2 роки тому +3

    Uno storico filmato a dir poco eccezionale e meraviglioso; complimenti a chi lo filmo' a suo tempo e a chi lo ha inserito su UA-cam 👍😉

  • @antonelloserpi5485
    @antonelloserpi5485 2 роки тому +2

    Un vero e proprio formidabile "film" sull'intero processo costruttivo della mitica Porsche 356 😉👍 grazie!

  • @bluegtturbo
    @bluegtturbo 3 роки тому +6

    Even for 60 years ago this was incredibly labour intensive and primitive in terms of methods. Lots of fettling and reworking.
    Has to be the most highly skilled assembly line ever!

    • @roberte.andrews4621
      @roberte.andrews4621 3 роки тому +2

      Contrast this to the robotic Tesla line and you will shake your head at all the intermediate steps this modern mode eliminates. But I prefer my natural ignorance to artificial brains.

    • @bobwilson758
      @bobwilson758 3 місяці тому

      What country ?

  • @klauspohl1142
    @klauspohl1142 3 роки тому +2

    I bought a 1963 SC Coupe in Texas 1993 and I drove it until 2009 trouble free! I earned some good money and decided to have the rust removed under the door. Then I received the dreaded "we have to talk" phone call Jack Staggs in San Clemente and he told me that the entire lower part of the body was rusted through
    and a total restauration was needed! Price about 50 Grand so I sold the car to him.
    It should be finished soon.......

  • @dragmahk
    @dragmahk 3 місяці тому

    Thank you so much for this video. We must strive to protect all kinds of old media and bring them to the new era of information. Doing god's work.

  • @stevebirks2186
    @stevebirks2186 7 років тому +5

    This is an amazing piece of history - Very Interesting too! - You love the bathtub - you'' ll love this documentary ! - Thanks for sharing this piece of of a bygone era !

  • @olivergarcia8236
    @olivergarcia8236 7 років тому +4

    schönes Video. Danke dass du das mit uns geteilt hast.

  • @PHAT50CHEVY
    @PHAT50CHEVY 8 років тому +2

    That was probably my favorite utube find yet thank u very cool

  • @humbertojuhasz1475
    @humbertojuhasz1475 4 роки тому +3

    Amazing factory, everything is handcrafted

  • @Klystron33
    @Klystron33 2 роки тому +1

    Great stuff indeed, thanks alot for uploading!

  • @92superamerica
    @92superamerica 10 років тому

    Realy nice to see that. Thanks for posting.

  • @theangelojack
    @theangelojack 10 років тому +3

    Excellent video, thanks for sharing, much enjoyed!!

  • @jamesjespersen5154
    @jamesjespersen5154 Рік тому +1

    This video is gold.

  • @steetonsales1
    @steetonsales1 6 років тому +2

    What a wonderful historic information film, has to be the best looking sports car ever built ! No wonder they change hands for £100,000's nowadays.

  • @hillstephen6
    @hillstephen6 2 роки тому

    I love Porsche and have owned many and still own a 911, wish I could go back in time and grab a few of them beauties. Great retro film … born too late 😀

  • @tomfoster8907
    @tomfoster8907 4 роки тому +1

    Excellent video. Thank you

  • @Sams911
    @Sams911 4 роки тому +2

    very happy to be taking delivery of the latest in this royal line... a new 992 C4S!

  • @bigears4426
    @bigears4426 6 років тому +85

    If porsche made this model car today exactly the same they would still sell

    • @markjurczyk
      @markjurczyk 4 роки тому +6

      The only problem i see, price would be very high

    • @bigears4426
      @bigears4426 4 роки тому +2

      GSA the same as any Porsche, expensive

    • @ShamWerks
      @ShamWerks 3 роки тому +3

      @@bigears4426 it would not pass any of the security / pollution regulations unfortunately...

    • @bigears4426
      @bigears4426 3 роки тому +1

      ShamWerks vw diesels didn't either

    • @coreygolphenee9633
      @coreygolphenee9633 3 роки тому +4

      I'd buy it right fucking now

  • @Jerod_Helt
    @Jerod_Helt 3 роки тому +3

    Amazing video! I’m working on a 356 on my channel. So much good info in this video 👍

  • @mothersmucker1
    @mothersmucker1 5 років тому +3

    Love these cars- I don't car much for materialism or owning a bunch of materialistic garbage you don't need however when it comes to the 356, I'd love to own one of these cars, they are a mechanical art masterpiece .

  • @Euphorica
    @Euphorica 10 років тому +1

    great video. thanks for the upload

  • @juanmaldonado3281
    @juanmaldonado3281 9 місяців тому

    WAW. A. WONDERFULL. TRIP. TO. THE. PAST. WE LOVE. IT. TNKS. SUPER. AWESOME

  • @martinkoziel9654
    @martinkoziel9654 3 роки тому +1

    Danke für den Upload Ingo :-)

  • @tngdwn8350
    @tngdwn8350 Рік тому +2

    The company which built the chassis "Karosserie Reutter", Karosserie meaning body/chassis, is still know today under a different name. Reutter Karosserie (ReKaro) with the K changed to a C becomes Recaro, the well known automotive / racing seat manufacturer.

    • @GT380man
      @GT380man 5 місяців тому +1

      That’s a brilliant piece of automotive genealogy! I had black leather Recaro seats in both my VW MkIV Golf GTi Turbo cars. I drove only this model for about 15 years and never tired of it.
      A mechanic friend said in his opinion, that era, late 1990s to early noughties, was peak reliability for quality cars. All the weaknesses had been bred out yet the amount of censors and the role of onboard computers was still minimal. As a result, fault finding was simple and fixes likewise. All parts of the vehicle were robustly made and bodies galvanised. If I could pick a car to have new again out of a Time Machine, it would be a fully loaded VW MkIV Golf GTi Turbo.

    • @JoeMomma-mx8ek
      @JoeMomma-mx8ek Місяць тому

      Reutter was bought out by Porsche in ‘63. The seat manufacturing division of Reutter split off from the body building division in the sale of the company and became Recaro. In the contract, they were to supply Porsche with their seats for the next 10 years.

  • @bobnoblesjr.465
    @bobnoblesjr.465 4 місяці тому

    In 1965, my dad bought a 356 C ,which was it's last production year, and the first year of the 911. He chose the 356. He traded in a '63 356 SC to get it.

  • @josecuauhtemocmejiarubio2219
    @josecuauhtemocmejiarubio2219 5 років тому +1

    una obra de arte hecha a mano, por eso duran tanto

  • @gartw6381
    @gartw6381 3 роки тому +3

    7:29 The worker grinding metal without eye protection😳 Sparks flying!

    • @Sanyey
      @Sanyey 3 роки тому

      why do you think I as a mechanic ever used eye or ear protection through my daily work? :D

    • @Sanyey
      @Sanyey 2 роки тому

      @Ben Frediani It was meant as "never used it" :D

  • @as3777
    @as3777 9 років тому +1

    大変面白く、参考になった!!

  • @domingodeanda233
    @domingodeanda233 4 роки тому +3

    That was pretty damn good.

  • @914_werke
    @914_werke 3 роки тому +1

    Ingo, Very Cool, thank you! By chance is there a similar video of the 914 ?

  • @2112bangkok
    @2112bangkok 8 років тому +2

    Fantastic video. Wouldn't want to be the undercoating guy working in that cave.
    Test driver YES! I wonder which coach builder commands more money at resale? There have to be variances between all that welding, hammering, etc. Make mine a silver coupe Carerra with four can engine please.

  • @radwi69
    @radwi69 7 років тому +1

    Craftsmanship of a Fine Watchmaker.

  • @luistorres6130
    @luistorres6130 Рік тому

    Great video !!

  • @motorv8N
    @motorv8N 2 роки тому +1

    Super interesting video - thanks! Wonder if that gorgeous little navy blue roadster alive and well somewhere still being enjoyed to this day.

  • @accutron-man3006
    @accutron-man3006 7 років тому +2

    Amazing millions of dollars worth of vintage Porsches in the first 20 seconds of the video nice!

    • @Tumbleweed-vh4pt
      @Tumbleweed-vh4pt 3 роки тому

      Back then it would set you back a few grand for one of those. Of course a few grand was a lot of money, but still a lot less than what you would pay now.

  • @CTmoog
    @CTmoog 6 років тому

    Really neat!

  • @songgreaty3338
    @songgreaty3338 2 роки тому +1

    Enjoy and learn a lot, many Tks!

  • @LuizHenrique-sz1gt
    @LuizHenrique-sz1gt 10 років тому +5

    I Love Porsche

  • @dodgeyaussie
    @dodgeyaussie 9 років тому +16

    OSHA would have a field day with this lol

  • @gabrielm-art7439
    @gabrielm-art7439 Рік тому

    This was an enjoyable film.

  • @mexicanomendoza2758
    @mexicanomendoza2758 10 років тому

    beautiful video..

  • @rlv4304
    @rlv4304 9 років тому

    I wonder what kind of gauges were used to check for tolerances (as shown in the video). It looks like they worked on some hydraulic principle...

  • @waseemkhan-ms1kt
    @waseemkhan-ms1kt 2 роки тому

    Duuude!!!! He kneed the engine and transmission assembly in the car. Doing that every day on a bunch of cars. Tough guy.

  • @escapefelicity2913
    @escapefelicity2913 10 місяців тому

    Men used to get up in the morning and go to work.
    What a concept.

  • @robj2704
    @robj2704 2 роки тому +3

    Too bad they weren't using a rust-proofing dip back in those days. We might still see a lot more of these little jewels. I'd love to have a 356.

  • @myclassiccarshq6387
    @myclassiccarshq6387 9 років тому +1

    Porsche 356 History - The video features insightful information about the rich and storied history of this legendary sports car, the Porsche 356. Enjoy!!! #Porsche356 #Porsche356History #VintagePorsche #ClassicPorsche #Porsche

  • @jamesberlo4298
    @jamesberlo4298 7 років тому

    I love the Transmission ( & Differential with Axles) Install 'Knee Technique't at 34:09 !!

  • @tomlasher1358
    @tomlasher1358 4 роки тому +1

    I installed a 356 engine in my 1960 Karmen Ghia, had to enlarge the bell housing to accept the larger pressure plate/flywheel n then bolted it right in

    • @Tumbleweed-vh4pt
      @Tumbleweed-vh4pt 3 роки тому

      Now you can get more horse power off the old engine from the bolt on parts that are available.

  • @fairrodthecapacitor
    @fairrodthecapacitor 2 роки тому +1

    38:28
    Why was that Cabrio top hanging out like that? It seems like only the blue top ones were like that on the footage and did Porsche actually make blue top cabrios?

  • @frank09busa
    @frank09busa 6 років тому +1

    What's amazing about this is, to me, this looks futuristic and it's 60s tech. Wow

  • @dgb5820
    @dgb5820 3 роки тому

    The soundtrack is priceless

  • @TravisChristopher
    @TravisChristopher 6 років тому

    OMG this is incredible

  • @TheHypnotstCollector
    @TheHypnotstCollector 3 роки тому +2

    ahhhh, minutes like 9:00 or the spot welding around 8:00, 10:20, all those fumes, all that lead. You melt lead and shape it all day and you're going to get lead poisoning. And those doors and hoods were all custom, the difference between hoods and doors, car to car, is huge. I had a 1953. Needed a hood and I lucked out: It wasn't perfect but it was close. Doors are worse. Even the windshields had a 1/4" difference car to car so windshield fit could be Tuff.

  • @1959VWBeetle
    @1959VWBeetle 4 роки тому

    Ah, if only I'd had the money 20 or so years ago to buy one of these. I'd be so happy to still have it in my garage. A daily smile for sure.

    • @bradjohnston8193
      @bradjohnston8193 2 роки тому +1

      If I'd had the money to buy one of these, I would have bought 100,000 shares of Amazon and I'd be a billionaire.

  • @josemontano7767
    @josemontano7767 6 років тому +4

    Wow from humble beginnings.

    • @Tumbleweed-vh4pt
      @Tumbleweed-vh4pt 3 роки тому

      The beginning was a little rough for Ferdinand between two wars to end all wars and facing the crimes against humanity trials that followed put an untimely death from the stress. But his heirs continued on and created a dynasty that he would be proud of.

    • @the_fifth_wheel
      @the_fifth_wheel 3 роки тому

      @@Tumbleweed-vh4pt yes indeed one of the Cogs in the Third Reich was Mr Porsche (Volkswagen) - peoples car, National Socialism I think they called it......but still engineering at its finest.

  • @mercedesbenzformula1
    @mercedesbenzformula1 11 років тому +1

    @studid55 no, it says to ensure against leakage and rusting

  • @TheHypnotstCollector
    @TheHypnotstCollector 10 років тому +7

    spray on undercoating, no respirator, shooting paint, no respirator, Melt that lead onto the body, no respirator. Real Lacquer paint. at least they wear a respirator spraying on the Signal Red paint. The same color I spayed on my 1953 coupe. Back then the windshield was +/- 1/8" in fit so putting in glass was not always a success, good luck getting a good fit with replacement doors or hood. oddly the rear decks always interchanged well, if you mashed up the rear end. I put in a 1964 SC engine with a big bore kit, over 100hp. at minute 15:17 we see a red porsche with louvers on the engine deck lid, a Carrera, I think.

    • @XoVoX
      @XoVoX 10 років тому +4

      Bruno, I feel kinda light headed.
      Thats normal Heinrich, now get back to painting!

    • @scottkashuba3476
      @scottkashuba3476 7 років тому +2

      They must have been happy to survive the war. What was a little hazardous waste here and there.

    • @ericjkent
      @ericjkent 7 років тому

      Yes about those windshields I actually broke one because it was too big for the opening but that was part of the program working at a Porsche Dealer as far as getting doors and hoods that fit that is why they used lead you can make anything LOOK like it fits with a little lead.

    • @jeffinillinois
      @jeffinillinois 6 років тому

      Saw the Carrera too!

    • @bigears4426
      @bigears4426 6 років тому

      TheHypnotstCollector the karman ghia was no different plenty of lead to make them fit , yet the cheap beetle had nearly perfect pressings no lead at all

  • @craigyoung1636
    @craigyoung1636 10 років тому

    Very interesting! Love ya

  • @alhodge4051
    @alhodge4051 3 роки тому

    priceless video..

  • @sanjayabale
    @sanjayabale 3 роки тому

    wow , thnx for the upload

  • @karlkelley8353
    @karlkelley8353 2 роки тому +1

    What a wonderful treasure!

  • @batmanmarvelx
    @batmanmarvelx 3 роки тому

    wow amazing work...

  • @blapo38
    @blapo38 10 років тому

    Lovely!

  • @Spaceman719
    @Spaceman719 Рік тому

    Beautiful car 😍 🚗

  • @356classiccars4
    @356classiccars4 Рік тому +1

    This is story about the true passion of car builders. Hand made cars what are able to do 1 million km. Its impossible today with best tech, computers and robotics what are way ahead over hand with brush and spanner.
    What goes wrong today if newest tech cant serve us properly? ;)

  • @jamesb.9155
    @jamesb.9155 4 місяці тому

    Sounds like a very familiar late 50s announcer/narrator!

  • @geraldswain3259
    @geraldswain3259 7 років тому +4

    The only rust protection you got was where the spray gun hit !!no dip no internal box section protection those days. no wonder they rotted out!

  • @Joshualbm
    @Joshualbm 3 роки тому +11

    He doesn't mention the challenging conditions that the assembly line musicians have to endure every day.

  • @radwi69
    @radwi69 7 років тому +1

    After this beautiful documentary, I guess any restoration work will fall extremely short of making any existing 356s an original!

    • @baloneyjusticecheezedog
      @baloneyjusticecheezedog 6 років тому

      Actually that is the wrong way to think about it. This is proof since it was done by man, another man it can be remade and given a chance to dance again.

  • @sheridenboord7853
    @sheridenboord7853 4 роки тому +2

    I'm watching this wondering what job I could possibly do in the factory to help. I was feeling more and more dejected as most of the jobs look pretty hard and yucky. Then I saw it, at 36:00, the chassis dyno test. Heaven.

    • @GT380man
      @GT380man 5 місяців тому

      Hard & yucky to me looked satisfying.

  • @verovieira1
    @verovieira1 10 років тому

    sensational !

  • @Spineloro
    @Spineloro 3 роки тому

    Wonderful✨

  • @Staniby79
    @Staniby79 11 років тому

    un beau document, merci , faudrait je que trouve un capot arrière !!

  • @jamesberlo4298
    @jamesberlo4298 8 років тому

    I wish they showed the Steering Gear. I love the Custom Porsche mini Truck .

  • @jackfenton4713
    @jackfenton4713 8 років тому

    Where can I get the sound track?

  • @Staniby79
    @Staniby79 10 років тому +1

    remarquable !

  • @captkilt
    @captkilt 9 років тому

    Nice!

  • @bretfisher7286
    @bretfisher7286 7 років тому

    I like the cars, but it's the music that drew me here the most.

  • @gregh7457
    @gregh7457 4 роки тому

    lacquer paint love it hate it. Lots of work but looks beautiful when finished

    • @Tumbleweed-vh4pt
      @Tumbleweed-vh4pt 3 роки тому

      Yeah and there was a time when it was applied by hand and brush and then it was sanded and buffed to a perfect shine.

  • @jrharryman32
    @jrharryman32 3 роки тому +1

    Watching Hans and Franz build these cars is very relaxing lol.

  • @samadrid6321
    @samadrid6321 5 років тому +4

    This is too much like a high school reel-to-reel movie we used to see in the 1970s. Inevitably the film would jam, stop against the hot bulb, melt and we would proceed to throw paper wads at each other 'till the teacher fixed the film.

  • @andyr9654
    @andyr9654 3 роки тому

    Engineers even back then as well as today are not given the recognition they deserve. People don't care about who makes the television as much as they care about those on it. They idolize the car but really never think about those who designed it to make it work. Technology is simply taken for granted without knowing how it actually comes about. These engineers designed it all to the last detail, then designed machines and tools to be able to make their designs, then trained people in assembly lines to put it all together. It's simply gob smacking. BTW todays machines are far more impressive than what we see here...we now see automated robots working with utmost precision in assembly lines. Even more gob smacking.

    • @roberte.andrews4621
      @roberte.andrews4621 3 роки тому

      Tesla seems to have the automotive world by the short hair, as to efficient robotic assembly and testing technology. Now, if we can find the ingredients for the batteries of the future, the conversion to engines with only one moving part will cut costs and pollution for us all. Muffler makers will join buggy whip producers in the archives of auto history.

  • @topfell8277
    @topfell8277 Рік тому +1

    When Germans were german balls of steel proud to be born there in 57

  • @pwcraig65
    @pwcraig65 3 роки тому +1

    Drove a 55 356a for my DL test. The car had no seat belts from the factory.

  • @stuffthings3728
    @stuffthings3728 3 роки тому +1

    The music is like santa-claus' workshop.