Metrolink leased 40 locomotives from BNSF until the problem with the cab cars and an accident in Oxnard in Feb. 2015. The cab cars have to be passed by NTSB before they can used again. It's all on the Metrolink site on the web. Thanks for the video.
I remember seeing these BNSF locomotives parked to the far side of LA Union Station back in late 2015, now I know what they were all used for. I also got pictures of every single engine that was parked there.
Other commuter railroads use that type of cab car, and haven't had any problems! I guess California requirements are different! 1:13 I'd like to see Metrolink's old coaches being used in Kansas City on a currently non-existing line between Union Station and KCI airport! 3:24 that paint looks old on 892! I think all the BNSF engines leased to metrolink are C44-9Ws! 4:18 those MP36s are kinda rare on metrolink! They look old, despite being manufactured in 2008-2009! I wonder how a Dash 9 would look in metrolink paint?
Most of those videos weren't in QZ's. There was just no crossing at the location filmed. The only QZ i see is San Clemente, which the entire city is now a QZ.
If seen other videos of other people railfaning and the BNSF is always pulling the Metrolink train now im seeing you post it thats quite interesting Mike 😒☺
Why is it that when BNSF was searching for A.C. Traction locomotives, how come they purchased AC4400’s from G.E.? Should they have thought that the SD70MAC’s were enough? Besides, other freight railroads were interested in the AC4400CW (Union Pacific, Canadian Pacific, and CSX).
A Very Random Person not really. True. They have a fleet of 600 ES44AC’s, 1,257 ES44C4’s, and a couple hundred ET44C4’s. However, they also have ES44DC’s.
Thanks Mike for another interesting video. I love seeing the palm trees of Southern California, especially when winter hits Fargo, North Dakota. It would be interesting to know just how much the federal government (Amtrak) has to pay for leasing BNSF locomotive power. Nothing like mistakes that cost the taxpayer money.
Well, Joel, they need the engines to keep the engineer safe. My father suffered and died due to Oxnard and they don't want a repeat. So if it cost the tax payer some money we are deeply sorry 🙄
Shawn, I'm greatly sorry for your loss. It's absolutely a tragedy that these cars were not better designed from the beginning. But, this is definitely the best solution for the interim. Safety should always be the priority. Glenn will not be forgotten.
Yes, and not only are BNSF locomotives at the "Head-End' when they blow the Horn IT IS LOUD! BNSF says that the horn is within the Decibel range of what the DOT calls for, but for Urban Environments (such as Claremont) it might be considered unnecessarily Loud. OH Yeah, you know there is a train approaching and standing on the station platform; IT IS EAR PIERCING!
One reason for the loudness is the mounting location. It is only one more chime than the horns Metrolink uses, but they are mounted on the roof rather than behind the front plow.
Design flaw? Who designed them? Metrolink or the manufacturer. If the latter, I hope the manufacturer will assume ALL costs including the repairs and the costs of leasing the BMSF locomotives (and operating crews?).
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The trains do lose a few minutes each trip with the freight locomotives. Metrolink has chosen to no longer use the old cab cars in the lead of trains. Thanks for the comment!
I don't get it, why borrow bnsf locomotives at all, when they have the bombardier cab cars? And the bnsf locos obviously are not built with head end power.
Metrolink has chosen to no longer run the old cab cars leading a train anymore. Since the trains also have a standard metrolink locomotive, the BNSF locomotives don't need to have HEP. Thanks for the comment!
Danielle Cox Oh yeah, that is why Metrolink leased these locomotives to pull them. "Oh yeah, they don't pull them," that is why they're pulling them now (stopped in December)
as someone who basically grew up watching Metrolink drive past my house, this was an interesting sight to say the least
Metrolink leased 40 locomotives from BNSF until the problem with the cab cars and an accident in Oxnard in Feb. 2015. The cab cars have to be passed by NTSB before they can used again. It's all on the Metrolink site on the web. Thanks for the video.
Thanks for the comment!
Nice to have those awful p2s out of here!
Yeah, they took them out of storage on a temporary basis, they don't meet the Tier 4 regulations.
I remember seeing these BNSF locomotives parked to the far side of LA Union Station back in late 2015, now I know what they were all used for. I also got pictures of every single engine that was parked there.
Great video Mike! I saw the RBBX Loco at Fullerton with an AC4400 on the rear
Thank you! And cool!
The BNSF Freight Locomotives have been borrowed in 2016.
No duh
Never seen anything like that everyday but awesome video.
Thank you! Glad you like it.
+CoasterFan2105 Your very welcome there bud!
It is actually common on the Metrolink system for almost a year, but soon the BNSF era is to come to an end.
and anybody notice a trespasser at 2:37?
Yes
Great video Mike and thanks for the background information!
- Balerio
Thanks for the comment Balerio!
Other commuter railroads use that type of cab car, and haven't had any problems! I guess California requirements are different!
1:13 I'd like to see Metrolink's old coaches being used in Kansas City on a currently non-existing line between Union Station and KCI airport!
3:24 that paint looks old on 892! I think all the BNSF engines leased to metrolink are C44-9Ws!
4:18 those MP36s are kinda rare on metrolink! They look old, despite being manufactured in 2008-2009!
I wonder how a Dash 9 would look in metrolink paint?
Thanks for the comment! The BNSF locomotives are AC4400CW types, which are basically the AC power version of the Dash-9
Thanks for the comment! The BNSF locomotives are AC4400CW types, which are basically the AC power version of the Dash-9
Thanks for the comment! The BNSF locomotives are AC4400CW types, which are basically the AC power version of the Dash-9
@@CoasterFan2105 wat
@@CoasterFan2105 wat
Yay! You did my request! Great video
Yessir! Thanks!
That wining sound On those BNSF locos has to be the traction motors
Awesome video! Were these filmed in quiet zones???
*most of these
Most of those videos weren't in QZ's. There was just no crossing at the location filmed. The only QZ i see is San Clemente, which the entire city is now a QZ.
oh, yea. At least the waysides sound nice, but they should not have a quiet zone there, too many people.
nice catch! it looks like bnsf is like a rescue unit
Thanks for the comment!
CoasterFan2105 your welcome, :)
Awesome video Mike!
Thank you Miles!
If seen other videos of other people railfaning and the BNSF is always pulling the Metrolink train now im seeing you post it thats quite interesting Mike 😒☺
Nice video! Does anyone know why they leased AC44s instead of something weaker like Dash-9s? For HEP power?
Tthey got the loco at the end for that reason
I think these were locomotives that were mostly in storage that BNSF was not using.
fantastic video as always mike!
Thanks man!
Did BNSF order AC4400’s to supplement their SD70MAC’s?
Wouldn't BNSF have a shortage on locos? Oh well, maybe this will lead to the return of the old bombardier cabs!
40 locomotives isn't going to bother BNSF, especially as the Tier4s come on line, and it's a $ 6 million contract with LAX Metrolink.
The amount of coal trains has been down recently for BNSF and thus, the demand for AC power is low.
Many of these locomotives wee in storage, so it probably didn't effect them too much. Thanks for the comment!
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Why is it that when BNSF was searching for A.C. Traction locomotives, how come they purchased AC4400’s from G.E.? Should they have thought that the SD70MAC’s were enough? Besides, other freight railroads were interested in the AC4400CW (Union Pacific, Canadian Pacific, and CSX).
Because most MACs were bought by BN, and are much more suited for coal then general AC traction. Also, almost all of BNSFs GEVOs are AC traction.
A Very Random Person not really. True. They have a fleet of 600 ES44AC’s, 1,257 ES44C4’s, and a couple hundred ET44C4’s. However, they also have ES44DC’s.
Awesome Video Mike
Очень красивое видео. и Очень красиво снято. КЛАСС.
HAVE A GREAT SUMMER!!!!
I wonder if they will still be there in December...
I think they will probably be gone by the end of October.
Oh. Too bad!
awesome video!!!
Thanks!
Does the conductor hold the same license to operate a freight loco-header & a commuter train???
Very good video interesting coaches good views of the diesels interesting two deferent diesel types
Thank you Bruce.
I like train videos videos on UA-cam 👍
Good Video Mike!
Thanks!!
I remember when metrolink connected to BNSF freight train
Thanks Mike for another interesting video. I love seeing the palm trees of Southern California, especially when winter hits Fargo, North Dakota. It would be interesting to know just how much the federal government (Amtrak) has to pay for leasing BNSF locomotive power. Nothing like mistakes that cost the taxpayer money.
Ooops, it's Metrolink so the federal government probably isn't involved in this. My mistake!
Well, Joel, they need the engines to keep the engineer safe. My father suffered and died due to Oxnard and they don't want a repeat. So if it cost the tax payer some money we are deeply sorry 🙄
Shawn, I'm greatly sorry for your loss. It's absolutely a tragedy that these cars were not better designed from the beginning. But, this is definitely the best solution for the interim. Safety should always be the priority. Glenn will not be forgotten.
Thanks for the comment Joel, glad you like the video. I believe the cost is about $500 per day per unit.
@@CoasterFan2105 That's expensive.
So weird but cool.
Yes, and not only are BNSF locomotives at the "Head-End' when they blow the Horn IT IS LOUD! BNSF says that the horn is within the Decibel range of what the DOT calls for, but for Urban Environments (such as Claremont) it might be considered unnecessarily Loud. OH Yeah, you know there is a train approaching and standing on the station platform; IT IS EAR PIERCING!
One reason for the loudness is the mounting location. It is only one more chime than the horns Metrolink uses, but they are mounted on the roof rather than behind the front plow.
What exactly was the extent of the design flaw on the cabcars?
Cool Video!
Thanks Alan!
Cool video
Thanks!
Why do freight engines link with Metrolink?
So cool
Thank you!
Design flaw? Who designed them? Metrolink or the manufacturer. If the latter, I hope the manufacturer will assume ALL costs including the repairs and the costs of leasing the BMSF locomotives (and operating crews?).
Hi Mike / Like all the RR action today a long the beach. Can I ask, what kind of camera are you using, Make & model. • Thanks • I am thinking about a Nikon D3000 DSLR 18-55mm and 55-200. Gary 🚂
• Cheers from The Detroit & Mackinac Railway 🚂
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Thank you very much! This was filmed with Canon XA10 and XA25 video cameras.
Are those GE units struggling to keep speed, and also why don't they used the old bombardier cab cars?
The trains do lose a few minutes each trip with the freight locomotives. Metrolink has chosen to no longer use the old cab cars in the lead of trains. Thanks for the comment!
Metrolink is dumb why don't they buy big locomotives and uses them as their cancers and retire the totems and buy new coach bombardiers
@@CoasterFan2105 They've been rebuilding them to regular coaches.
da hora; só no Brasil não tem isso....
I don't get it, why borrow bnsf locomotives at all, when they have the bombardier cab cars? And the bnsf locos obviously are not built with head end power.
Metrolink has chosen to no longer run the old cab cars leading a train anymore. Since the trains also have a standard metrolink locomotive, the BNSF locomotives don't need to have HEP. Thanks for the comment!
AWESOME
Thanks!
Metrolink should just buy them and repaint them into full service
They've been gone for 4 years.
@@AVeryRandomPerson hmm true
Hey, did you happen to film Grand Canyon Railway #29's return to service afew days ago?
Indeed I did!
CoasterFan2105 Cool!
@@Buynot It now has a required 4.3 year boiler inspection, so it should be back around 2023.
Going to LA in April, could someone please tell me where the beach is? good excuse to take my girlfriend to the beach and watch some trains, Cheers!
San Clemente
All GEs and no EMDs... shame.
I don't like the new Metrolink paint I like the old one plus im from New Jersey so IDK that much about Metrolink
I have train 🚆 good ending
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BNSF trains don't pull that
Danielle Cox Oh yeah, that is why Metrolink leased these locomotives to pull them. "Oh yeah, they don't pull them," that is why they're pulling them now (stopped in December)
Bnsf trains do that to metrolink
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Cool video