Metrolink Train 25th Anniversary

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  • Опубліковано 21 гру 2024

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  • @Consolidation1282
    @Consolidation1282 7 років тому +9

    Happy 25th Anniversary Metrolink

  • @AlexTrain5249
    @AlexTrain5249 7 років тому +39

    Metrolink's a part of my childhood. Happy 25th Anniversary Metrolink.

  • @MrBnsftrain
    @MrBnsftrain 7 років тому +31

    4:42 nice to see an old coach in the new livery!
    8:17 Wow! nice to see a borrowed utah frontrunner single level coach!
    10:04 that mechanical beel sounds unusual! Today, they're more common out in the country on a preserved line!
    10:38 what type of horn does that cab car have? it sounds good on it!
    12:35 nice catch of a doubleheader on the end!
    the coolest thing I find about this railraod, is the horns they use! Usually, they're fitted on American-built export locos!

    • @CoasterFan2105
      @CoasterFan2105  7 років тому +2

      Thanks! The horn at 10:38 is a Nathan K2.

    • @alacevedo2274
      @alacevedo2274 6 років тому

      MrBnsftrain 0

    • @deborahmaciak5692
      @deborahmaciak5692 4 роки тому +3

      6:17 also has an old car in new livery!

    • @audreyclaire419
      @audreyclaire419 4 роки тому +2

      15:01 and 12:35 are the double heads!

    • @vcrp79
      @vcrp79 3 роки тому

      @@CoasterFan2105
      Wait do they still operate there old cab cars?

  • @nancyhernandez7833
    @nancyhernandez7833 5 років тому +9

    Wow its been out since the 80s. Pretty impressive for a commuter train.

  • @michiganmoonwalker579
    @michiganmoonwalker579 6 років тому +6

    I remember when I saw my first and only Metrolink train back in 2008 when my family went to Los Angeles for a vacation.

    • @interstate1335
      @interstate1335 3 роки тому

      Well I remember seeing a Metrolink service with a BNSF GE leading. (I think. Idk what locomotive type but it was a BNSF.)

    • @anaarulhak1223
      @anaarulhak1223 3 роки тому

      @@interstate1335gh vjZsj. Jvf znc

  • @chrisdog491
    @chrisdog491 7 років тому +8

    Those trains just sound so beautiful when they move down the track! Great video Mike!

  • @miloschulze3751
    @miloschulze3751 5 років тому +17

    The metrolink is my favorite train!

  • @TommyPicklesFan
    @TommyPicklesFan 7 років тому +19

    Nice Video. Metrolink is one of My Favorite Commuter Rail along with Coaster and Tri Rail.

    • @CoasterFan2105
      @CoasterFan2105  7 років тому +1

      Thanks, Alan!

    • @isabelgiles1494
      @isabelgiles1494 6 років тому +1

      TommyPickles Fan1992 is cool

    • @nolantherailfan5048
      @nolantherailfan5048 2 роки тому +1

      @@CoasterFan2105 16:31 this clip is my favorite in this video because this unit has the original K5LA rather than those ugly sounding P2 horns

    • @TetroRBLX
      @TetroRBLX Рік тому +1

      ​@@nolantherailfan5048p2s aren't bad.

  • @Jonalius
    @Jonalius 7 років тому +16

    That's quite a collection of F59s in action. One more year and they will be gone and replaced by the F125s. Also great footage of the old cab cars

    • @GrigorKaza
      @GrigorKaza 11 місяців тому

      I still see them parked in California. Idk if they operate but I have seen one run a route a while back

  • @seaboardairlineproductions7185
    @seaboardairlineproductions7185 7 років тому +9

    Metrolink #872 has a sick horn, better than the ones the others have!

  • @ethancampbell6076
    @ethancampbell6076 7 років тому +29

    8:56 Never Forget Metro-link's are sharing a yard

  • @UnknownUser-wx8bl
    @UnknownUser-wx8bl 7 років тому +2

    You are the world's best railfan ever!

  • @IERailfan
    @IERailfan 7 років тому +38

    Ahh the days of the Bombardier cabs and UTA cars i miss em

  • @jacobdolman3831
    @jacobdolman3831 Рік тому +1

    Wow cool 1M views Yay

  • @kenpalmer1965
    @kenpalmer1965 Рік тому

    Another great video! The footage beginning at 3:17 was the best segment! Right along the ocean!

  • @xxmajesticsailorjupiterxx7951
    @xxmajesticsailorjupiterxx7951 5 років тому +7

    My favorite sounding horn is at 16:24

  • @judithjoya4776
    @judithjoya4776 4 роки тому +1

    Happy 25th Anniversary Metrolink.

  • @tritherail9812
    @tritherail9812 5 років тому +5

    HAPPY 500K ON CHRISTMAS

  • @bobbieimbilli96
    @bobbieimbilli96 3 роки тому +1

    Happy 25th anniversary Metrolink I love you Metrolink

  • @wharris302
    @wharris302 7 років тому +4

    Lovely shot at the end :) great video as always

  • @kevp9601
    @kevp9601 7 років тому +1

    I Love That Diesel Train So Much!!!

  • @jakecollins3669
    @jakecollins3669 4 роки тому +1

    Also, 858 was featured in There Goes a Train, which took place during Metrolink's third year of operation (1994)

  • @TracksideSFL
    @TracksideSFL 7 років тому +5

    Epic Video As Always Mike!! Glad Metrolink has Come a long Way!

  • @ocbusfan
    @ocbusfan 7 років тому +9

    8:39 I missed when Orange didn’t have a quiet zone

  • @Cutecinnalover
    @Cutecinnalover 3 роки тому +2

    7:04 was great night at Fullerton station

  • @jamesbensch6
    @jamesbensch6 7 років тому +1

    It's funny because my regional transportation company is called Metrolinx. They are owned by the provincial government and built mass transit in all of the major cities. They also operate commuter trains and double decker commuter buses. Right now they are building an LRT system in my city.

  • @davidpeterson2150
    @davidpeterson2150 3 роки тому +1

    Metrolink,May you live long and prosper!

  • @frankwells6013
    @frankwells6013 7 років тому +3

    They Started regular service of the new locomotives today!

  • @oscarzazueta3358
    @oscarzazueta3358 7 років тому +2

    Congratulations to Mike and Metrolink😊😄🚄

  • @democraticpatriot2657
    @democraticpatriot2657 3 роки тому +13

    Wish all the rolling stock had a common paint scheme. The mixture of two styles looks dorky.

    • @ClankyCloverRailfanning
      @ClankyCloverRailfanning 3 роки тому

      Ikr

    • @Ivon3976
      @Ivon3976 2 роки тому +1

      What if metro link divided trains into A line with use bombardier car and b line which use Hyundai rotem cars

    • @vickiehurt2665
      @vickiehurt2665 Рік тому

      It doesn’t look dorky: it looks drab!!

    • @elijahcota4517
      @elijahcota4517 7 місяців тому

      4:40 The B line is the Hyundai Rotem Locomotive and Coaches, while, 4:18 The A Line is all the other locomotives with the Bombardier Coaches, and Locomotive.

  • @miloschulze3751
    @miloschulze3751 5 років тому +1

    Happy 25th anerversarry metrolink!

  • @audreyclaire419
    @audreyclaire419 4 роки тому +2

    0:09 i love the horn

  • @TrainsForDayz
    @TrainsForDayz 7 років тому +3

    ALRIGHT!!!!! Our favorite southern California Commuter Rail System has it's 25TH ANNIVERSARY!!!! I LOVE IT THANKS +CoasterFan2105 I see my favorite locomotives in there ha ha!!!! :) Also by the way i got some info. a few days ago and Metrolink F59PHI locomotives 885, 886, and my personal favorite 887 are sadly retired or so I assume.....:( so....yeah

    • @Amrepdude499
      @Amrepdude499 6 років тому +1

      886 and 887 are back in service 😎. The retired ones are. 866, 877, 853, 871, 867, and 872. 885, 863, and 859 are out of service but have a chance.

    • @shreddermanp2
      @shreddermanp2 5 років тому

      My Personal Favorite Metrolink F59PHI Is 885

  • @davidnissim9203
    @davidnissim9203 5 років тому +19

    What Metrolink needs to build: Coachella Line and Victor Valley Line

    • @fizzypopt128
      @fizzypopt128 4 роки тому +1

      Agreed

    • @imanalaskarith6180
      @imanalaskarith6180 4 роки тому

      @@fizzypopt128 ١١

    • @josiah_crazy7621
      @josiah_crazy7621 3 роки тому

      Also they should build a AV Line Extension to Bakersfield to meet with Caltrain

    • @ryansrailfanning
      @ryansrailfanning 3 роки тому

      @@josiah_crazy7621 agreed

    • @JPBX904
      @JPBX904 2 місяці тому

      @@josiah_crazy7621 I'm sorry what? Caltrain does not go remotely near Bakersfield. I think you mean the San Joaquins.

  • @nathaniellopez2083
    @nathaniellopez2083 7 років тому +7

    Awesome video. Cant wait for the Tier 4 locomotives to be in service. Also the AV line has rrally nice scenery since the line runs along the creek, but cant beat the OC line along the coast.

    • @TetroRBLX
      @TetroRBLX Рік тому

      You want these back now don't you

  • @Lucrativecris
    @Lucrativecris 6 років тому +8

    They still bombardier use cab cars? I thought all of them were retired

    • @CoasterFan2105
      @CoasterFan2105  6 років тому +2

      Some of them were converted into coaches and are still used. All the clips of them leading are pert of the "historical look back" in the video that runs roughly from 8:00 to 15:00

    • @gabriel1088_
      @gabriel1088_ 4 роки тому

      Some of the cars were donated to Caltrain in San francisco

  • @joshuadominictoling5310
    @joshuadominictoling5310 Рік тому +1

    They need to have the electrification constructed on the Metrolink's tracks for SoCal also.

  • @railpast
    @railpast 4 роки тому +1

    Great video LIve a year in LA. I should hive never left. Sitting here in dull cold Ontario Canada and asking myself why?

  • @isabelaandaj
    @isabelaandaj Рік тому

    10:31 and 12:43 Those cab cars are my absolute favorite. Metrolink 627 is the best out of every Gen 1 cab car.

  • @nolantherailfan5048
    @nolantherailfan5048 2 роки тому +1

    16:28 that ones my favorite because it has the original K5LA

  • @audreyclaire419
    @audreyclaire419 4 роки тому +3

    18:40 my favorite vid

  • @transitfanaviationfanrailf9249
    @transitfanaviationfanrailf9249 7 років тому +3

    happy 25th anniversary metrolink

  • @roundlakerailfan6853
    @roundlakerailfan6853 5 років тому +5

    I'm hearing the sound of the horns on some of these cab cars, and I think: And they say the horn on the F125 sounds weird!

  • @metra160
    @metra160 7 років тому +1

    Awesome video glad for Metrolink!

  • @supercorail7284
    @supercorail7284 7 років тому +1

    Beautiful video bravo pour

  • @slendermanRblx
    @slendermanRblx 7 років тому +9

    Where is the BNSF engine on the rear i thought the rotems were not allowed to lead due to safety issues

    • @CaliforniaRailProductions
      @CaliforniaRailProductions 7 років тому +10

      slenderman7676 Rblx BNSF ran with Metrolink for amost 8 months. They have been gone for over a year now

    • @MP34.9
      @MP34.9 7 років тому +2

      slenderman7676 Rblx the problems were fixed

    • @therookie9276
      @therookie9276 7 років тому +1

      slenderman7676 Rblx They fixed them.

    • @lilomelet68
      @lilomelet68 6 років тому

      I thought the rotems were good and the bombardier cab car was safe

    • @AmtrakandAWVRFan
      @AmtrakandAWVRFan 4 роки тому

      Lil Omelet68 What they were advertised to be, but the 2015 derailment proved it wrong.

  • @8989theman
    @8989theman 7 років тому +7

    Those horns on the Metrolink engines have always sounded very odd. Do you know perhaps what type of horn Metrolink engines carry?

    • @AmtrakandAWVRFan
      @AmtrakandAWVRFan 7 років тому +3

      CentralOhioTrains Nathan P2

    • @AmtrakandAWVRFan
      @AmtrakandAWVRFan 7 років тому +4

      And as for the Rotems and F125’s, they use K2’s.

    • @8989theman
      @8989theman 7 років тому +2

      Thanks! What bells do the P2's consist of?

    • @AmtrakandAWVRFan
      @AmtrakandAWVRFan 7 років тому +2

      CentralOhioTrains P2’s are the horns. As for the bells, they either have a M-Bell or E-Bell. The newer locos have E-Bells.

    • @KentuckyRailfan
      @KentuckyRailfan 7 років тому +2

      Amtrak and AWVR Fan he ment the bells on the horn lol

  • @judithjoya4776
    @judithjoya4776 4 роки тому +2

    PK XD: I LOVE METROLINK!
    FORTNITE: I LOVE METROLINK TOO!
    UA-cam: I LOVE METROLINK!
    APP STORE: I LOVE METROLINK!
    PLAY STORE: I LOVE METROLINK!

  • @SouthCalifas619
    @SouthCalifas619 6 років тому +7

    Those old school p2 horns will be missed, compared to the dying goose horns on the new metrolink engines and cab cars, these p2s sound as good as an s3l when compared to the new metrolink horns.

    • @SJSharkMaster
      @SJSharkMaster 6 років тому +2

      SouthCalifas619 hey if you want the sound of the p2 horns, go to the Bay Area and listen to the ones on CalTrain! :)

    • @shreddermanp2
      @shreddermanp2 5 років тому

      @@SJSharkMaster Wait! What The Hell U Guys Talking About!😧😧😨😨🤯

  • @alexoverton152
    @alexoverton152 6 років тому +4

    When are the MP-36's gonna get the new livery? I'm excited to see how they turn out!

  • @tonnyyyzzzplays7309
    @tonnyyyzzzplays7309 7 років тому +3

    Where my train goes it has 6 carriages
    2019:me 4 coaches now ... Santa Clarita sadly

  • @maynesrailroadvideos8591
    @maynesrailroadvideos8591 5 років тому +1

    Good Video Mike!

  • @metrolinkfan9096
    @metrolinkfan9096 7 років тому +1

    Nice vid coasterfan2105

  • @CaliforniaRailProductions
    @CaliforniaRailProductions 6 років тому +2

    Wonder where that spot is at 6:22 ;)

  • @therookie9276
    @therookie9276 7 років тому +3

    So glad Metrolink was successful! Metrolink has awesome K5LA's and P2's. Good video Mike! Also, at 8:31, what was that train car?

    • @SleepTrain456
      @SleepTrain456 7 років тому

      Comet I. The Comet I was the first generation of the series of passenger cars known as the Comet series commonly used in New Jersey. This one was leased from a commuter railroad in and around Salt Lake City, Utah known as FrontRunner and is currently in use there. This one was originally built at some point between 1970 and 1973 for the New Jersey Department of Transportation (NJDOT) for use on the Erie-Lackawanna Railroad's diesel commuter trains, was transferred to New Jersey Transit (NJ Transit, or simply NJT) in 1983 when all NJDOT commuter operations were transferred to NJ Transit as well, was retired by NJ Transit and sold to FrontRunner in 2005, was leased to Metrolink between 2008 and 2010 to substitute for the Rotem cars used today, and was returned to FrontRunner in 2010.

  • @DanielRodriguez-xt4rt
    @DanielRodriguez-xt4rt 6 років тому +6

    I like train number 862 sadly I haven't get to ride it I'm from Texas train 862 is in California

    • @Amrepdude499
      @Amrepdude499 6 років тому +2

      Finally someone who agrees with me on the best metrolink loco. 859 is a close second though

    • @nolantherailfan5048
      @nolantherailfan5048 2 роки тому

      I'm not a fan of those ugly sounding P2 horns Metrolink has due to the original K5LA's being too loud

    • @DanielRodriguez-xt4rt
      @DanielRodriguez-xt4rt 2 роки тому

      @@Amrepdude499 yesssss

  • @lorenarovira5898
    @lorenarovira5898 6 років тому +2

    I love metrolink!?:)

  • @trainroomgary
    @trainroomgary 7 років тому +1

    Hi Mike: Looks like you have a new YT Logo. Looks great for the new circle. Cool rail-fanning on the Metrolink line.
    • Cheers from The Detroit & Mackinac Railway 🚂

    • @CoasterFan2105
      @CoasterFan2105  7 років тому

      Thank you, Gary. Yes, this will be a temporary fix, but it does work better than the other one.

  • @shreddermanp2
    @shreddermanp2 5 років тому

    At 9:11 F59PHI #885 Is My Favorite Locomotive & Yet Nice P2🇯🇵

  • @thecarolinianrailfan8339
    @thecarolinianrailfan8339 7 років тому +2

    Epic!

  • @joshuadominictoling5310
    @joshuadominictoling5310 Рік тому +1

    They need to put an old "Railroad Crossing" sign just like what Caltrain has with red LED black thing on the RailRoad Crossing gates.

  • @mygameingtime3433
    @mygameingtime3433 6 років тому +3

    Where is the union pacific locomotives and the F59PHI LOCOMOTIVE whith the K5LA horn

  • @Gabriel-yo7jl
    @Gabriel-yo7jl Рік тому

    I love brightline,metrolink and tri rail with Amtrak

  • @Flwrbeds-h4p
    @Flwrbeds-h4p 7 років тому

    i new there would be a metrolink vid!!! got a thumbs up from me!

  • @furrylover327
    @furrylover327 4 роки тому

    you may be a coasterfan, but I'm a Metrolink fan, (see what i did there lol), i love the way they designed the cab cars, too bad i live in ohio

  • @JoseMartinez-jq1tr
    @JoseMartinez-jq1tr 7 років тому +1

    Cool video

  • @meeperfive
    @meeperfive 7 років тому +1

    Did you catch the 2017 autumn Express

    • @CoasterFan2105
      @CoasterFan2105  7 років тому

      I was not able to get it this year.

    • @meeperfive
      @meeperfive 7 років тому

      Same

    • @RailsoftheNortheast
      @RailsoftheNortheast 7 років тому

      Meeper5 RailFanning I was on it meeper. Also why did you randomly join and leave cryptochat on discord earlier?

    • @meeperfive
      @meeperfive 7 років тому

      I don’t like voice

  • @sabsfabs4605
    @sabsfabs4605 3 роки тому +1

    0:37 my favorite

  • @NS4067_Productions
    @NS4067_Productions 4 місяці тому

    R.I.P Metrolink F59PH 855 (1992-2008) 😢

  • @lilihan9235
    @lilihan9235 2 роки тому

    Hey brah, watch this vid 100000000 times😂🎉❤

  • @ns_railfanner7299
    @ns_railfanner7299 7 років тому +1

    I subscribed and liked about this video

  • @Lucrativecris
    @Lucrativecris 6 років тому +1

    Metrolink should paint their old cars in new livery

  • @denysoliinyk7753
    @denysoliinyk7753 7 років тому +1

    I want Mike Armstrong to make new video to record the Seattle soundtransit sounder trains

  • @SJSharkMaster
    @SJSharkMaster 6 років тому +2

    I only watched this because it reminded me of CalTrain

  • @jennystar1882
    @jennystar1882 4 роки тому

    Ahhh back in the days metrolink fleet using ace and sounder with metrolink bombarded cars and with the fleet of f40phr for the standard f59ph/f59phi

  • @jeffreyrule8143
    @jeffreyrule8143 2 роки тому

    Nice footage Mike.

  • @lorenarovira5898
    @lorenarovira5898 6 років тому

    Love Metrolink and coaster

  • @jakecollins3669
    @jakecollins3669 4 роки тому

    F40PH #800 was originally Amtrak 396. I have an N scale model of 396 made by KATO

  • @MiniforceRailfan
    @MiniforceRailfan 2 роки тому

    7:22 , 15:37 & 17:41-17:53 Close enough for accurate carriage position
    7:55 , 8:39 , 9:00-9:13 , 9:34 , 10:04-10:12 , 12:02-12:12 , 12:59 , 14:23 , Classic but Accurate
    11:23 & 15:20 Accurate but not Close Enough for carriage position
    12:22 Alright! Now that’s what I’m talking about (although the Rear Locomotive should be the same as the Front)
    18:30 Now that’s what it should look like (removing the First Locomotive)

  • @wren7300
    @wren7300 6 років тому

    Are they using the original trainsets?

  • @nortonhatfield7312
    @nortonhatfield7312 6 років тому

    Are Amtrak ticket good on metrolink trains ? because some Amtrak trains accept metrolink tickets. Also a few Amtrak surfliner trains will stop at stations that are metrolink trains only during rush hour.

    • @AmtrakandAWVRFan
      @AmtrakandAWVRFan 4 роки тому

      If you have an Amtrak or Metrolink monthly, they can be accepted on either railroad. If it’s a Metrolink single use, 7 day; or Amtrak single use or 10 trip, then you can only use those tickets for the respective railroads. An exception is that of Amtrak trains 759 and 768 (north of LA on weekdays), which I believe any Metrolink tickets are accepted.

  • @mindlessshark946
    @mindlessshark946 7 років тому +8

    Second comment! Amazing as always, Mike.

  • @MrFrag316
    @MrFrag316 7 років тому +6

    New episode idea for train talk: EMD MP-36

    • @nancyhernandez7833
      @nancyhernandez7833 5 років тому

      Imagine if amtrak owned locomotives from amtrak (well they kinda do, only the F59PHI)

    • @roundlakerailfan6853
      @roundlakerailfan6853 5 років тому

      Um, the MP-36 is manufactured by MPI Xpress, not EMD.

    • @AVeryRandomPerson
      @AVeryRandomPerson 4 роки тому

      He did it a few weeks ago now.

  • @hamtrak_p42dcamtrak67
    @hamtrak_p42dcamtrak67 4 роки тому

    You only get that horn on Metrolink. 10:16 o dang f40-ph. 11:49 hold up 12:36 the tow truck is being towed?

  • @NPTNReddek
    @NPTNReddek 7 років тому +12

    First! No one really cares though lol nice video btw

  • @sgtdebones
    @sgtdebones 7 років тому +14

    *Names CoasterFan. Films Metrolink*

    • @chhopkins
      @chhopkins 6 років тому +1

      Wifi not working

    • @roundlakerailfan6853
      @roundlakerailfan6853 5 років тому +1

      Just because he calls himself CoasterFan doesn't mean he can't film Metrolink.

    • @judithjoya4776
      @judithjoya4776 4 роки тому

      My wifi is working

  • @seminnesotatrainsairplanes839
    @seminnesotatrainsairplanes839 4 роки тому

    Some Metrolinks have the same locos that amtrak uses for pacific surfliner.

    • @AVeryRandomPerson
      @AVeryRandomPerson 4 роки тому

      No, F59PHIs have been retired from Metrolink since April 2nd.

  • @TheWolf27sze
    @TheWolf27sze 4 роки тому

    Hi! With which camera did you shoots?

  • @raquelserrano8526
    @raquelserrano8526 2 роки тому +2

    This is not for adults only kids

  • @davinhuffaker4670
    @davinhuffaker4670 Рік тому

    I keep mistaking the f59phi for the mp36, why do they look almost the same?

  • @luismanuelrevilla9773
    @luismanuelrevilla9773 5 місяців тому +1

    16:27 Metrolink F59PHR Sounds like F59PHI

  • @thebigbluesteamengine63
    @thebigbluesteamengine63 3 роки тому

    keep on going trains

  • @Benjamin-gn3ey
    @Benjamin-gn3ey 12 днів тому

    Why is there a UTA Frontrunner comet car on this?

  • @truegamermoment6029
    @truegamermoment6029 5 років тому

    What is the name of the horn at 1:10?

  • @a_nam_tak_nravitsea
    @a_nam_tak_nravitsea 7 років тому

    Thank you! Great channel! Has subscribed. Like#187

  • @JPBX904
    @JPBX904 2 місяці тому

    remember when metrolink had variety

  • @EthantheRailfanner
    @EthantheRailfanner 7 років тому

    Nice Video. I subscribed to you.

    • @therookie9276
      @therookie9276 7 років тому

      Ethan the Railfanner Mike is such a good youtuber.

  • @METROLINKTRAINS_TDFAN2K7
    @METROLINKTRAINS_TDFAN2K7 3 роки тому

    1:59 Yikes…That Metrolink 865 has a broken horn.

  • @republicoftajikistan4532
    @republicoftajikistan4532 4 роки тому

    All of the trains have the Hyundai Rotem Car, they must be good!

    • @YukariAkiyama
      @YukariAkiyama 4 роки тому

      The_Incredible_ Gamer They are! they have extended noses to make it so when the train crashes, the energy of the crash isn’t put into the driver

    • @Rarewubbox0
      @Rarewubbox0 Рік тому

      meanwhile scax 645 that flipped over and metrolink sued hyundai rotem

  • @ditsongarcia3343
    @ditsongarcia3343 3 роки тому

    I went to San Bernardino I saw Santa Fe 3751 coneted and i saw going with each other