I want to preface this with I love when yall talk habs, as a habs fan, I always appreciate it, I really enjoy when you talk about them. However, I feel like you're a little disconnected from the Habs fan bases actual feelings because you probably only see the tweets that get traction because they're insane. Habs fans are upset, yes. Habs suck, yes. But the LARGE majority of Habs fans are not calling for St.Louis head, although they might be nervous about his ability to help this team turn the corner. The large majority of habs fans have no issue with the Habs record so far. The front office said "in the mix" before the season as they're expectations, which is obviously purposely vague. Habs fans thought it was possible they could be in the mix because they thought they had a healthy Laine and they didn't realize it would take Dach some time to get back into the swing of things, and they underestimated how much losing Kovacevic and Harris would hurt their backend in their own zone. They've been awful in their own end and are allowing way too many high dangers chances. They haven't been getting bailed out by their goalies so they're getting pounded which is hurting their confidence, which is killing them in the O zone. If the D-zone tightens up a little, the rest of their game will come. Laine is coming back in a monthish, their defense will be more comfortable, Hutson will have more experience, Dach will get more and more comfortable. They will bounce back, but right now they suck. No doubt about that. But again, the large majority of Habs fans do not care about the record. The reason Habs fans are upset right now has been how they're losing and how they look. Last season's team was a ton of fun to watch, and was very competitive, most 1 goal games in the league by a mile. The Habs played like 30+ 1 goal games last season. This season, they're getting blown out in their own barn, and look genuinely uninterested. That's why fans are upset. Not because they're losing, but how they're losing. Being bad this year, in terms of the rebuild, is probably a good thing. The top 5 of the draft this year looks stacked, they weren't going to make playoffs this season anyways. TLDR: Habs fans just want to see their team TRY and COMPETE in games. They don't care if they lose the games, they just care how they're losing games. They want to be entertained while watching them lose.
you nailed it on the nose my man....the habs this year are a shell of the team they were last year (compete wise). I knew they were never going to be anything near contenders this year ESPECIALLY after Laine got injured. But outside looking in, there is something off....they looked great in the preseason, but when laine got injured its like the whole team just "settled". I don't know what it is, but they're give a fuck-o-meter this season is in the dumpster. I really hope they can figure it out and play that fun to watch, always on your ass game. im not calling for anyones head or trades that make no sense but i feel like they need a little shake up....I'd love to see primeau sent down or scratched for a few and give Dobes or hughes a sniff, stir it up a little.
As a Sens fan I appreciate your comment because it acknowledges that SDPN are genuine in their sincerity to provide objective analysis of any team in the NHL they look at it. However, I agree with you in that they are disconnected in how the majority of the fanbase might feel since they will likely look at the tweets or other social media which represent extremist fans (I felt they were similarly off when discussing what Sens fans' expectations were). All that said, what the Habs are going through is what is typical of what rebuilds involve. Rebuilds are non-linear in progression and I see exactly that transpiring with Montreal, Ottawa, Detroit and Buffalo albeit I admit maybe Buffalo has been taking a bit too long.
Very well put man, couldn't of summed up my own feeling about the team any better. Habs fans can be their own worst enemy when talking about the team and other fans always just hear the worst of it.
@leeanderson4794 Rebuild progress is never linear. Typically, there's a gap caused by missing vets that were traded away, young players struggling to find another gear (although with good guidance, they get there), and brilliant contributors who are not yet ready to be on the current team. Usually, that gives you a predictable regression. It sucks. But also, it's normal. It's part of the process. Growing pains, if you will. Management has to make sure not to panic and stick to the plan, instead of trying to pull easy fixes like in the days of Gainey, Gauthier, or Bergevin. I'm confident we have the right people in place. We can criticize what the team is not doing well, of course. And we're upset because it's ugly. But we have to avoid catastrophising.
Yes. I agree. Settle down. They may make some headway when Caulfield becomes a grandfather at the pace they're at now. A team is supposed to progress year over year but this team is regressing.
You guys might not be wrong in totality but you get so many details wrong because you don’t know enough about the Habs. Nrwhook wasn’t traded for to be 2nd line centre.
1. No, Habs management did not say their goal was to make the playoffs. They wanted to be 'in the mix' is what they said (they are not so far, OBV).. 2. They are the second youngest team in the league 3. Also, they are the second youngest team in the league. 4. As well, they are the second youngest team in the league. 5. Everybody relax; the team is still in reconstruction territory.
To be honest, taking a step meant finishing 11th in the East instead of 15th, not making the playoffs. Also, Montembeault was MUCH better than Allen last season.
Yes he was!! Coming off the World Championship win he had confidence. I am wondering if the chatter that he would be the guy for the 4 Nations Cup got into his head in a bad way.
Steve admits he has seen only 2 Habs games. 'Last time we saw Monty it was a 47-save shutout' Don't even bother commenting when you only watch them play the Leafs. Not possible to give an informed opinion. Nothing of note said here.
Good conversation! Like someone else mentionned, we're in year 3 of a rebuild. I expect this year to be another difficult year for the Habs. Hopefully, some progress this year and get better next year!
People kept saying Montreal's number one issue they needed to work on was their powerplay being in the worst in the league last year. I feel like St-Louis and the coaching staff have helped fix that issue with a sub par team. Not sure why people are so unhappy without thinking and trusting the process.
I think it's too early to judge rn. They're not expected to make the playoffs so what matters rn is that the core is progressing on an individual level.
Let's get real and not go crazy...It's year 3 of rebuild and about 80% of it is done...Relax, most fans know and the other don't remember what a rebuilt feels like. We still miss in the line up futur superstar Ivan Demidov and almost if not ready for the league Hague, the futur in defense as Reinbacher, Mailloux and Engstrom and the goalie of the futur Jacob Fowler. One more top 6 forwards and we are ready ! Will it be under St-Louis ? Probably, the plan was for him to develop with the team, he is way to intelligent and adaptative to let go...He could use a good assistant coach for the defensive plays, cause offensively he's got good ideas ! Patience and also there are some positive with Hutson and Caufield...Let's see and at worst, we will add Hagens and be complete 100 % !!
The media didn’t hype up the habs , Goeff Molson , Kent Hughes and Gorton came out during pre season claiming the habs would be « in the mix » for a playoff spot . That’s why some gullable habs fans want St-Louis’s head . They chose to believe the lie they where told and expect the impossible out of this team . It’s going to take two to three more years before they can start thinking about the playoffs . Rebuilding through drafting is a long process and they do have a good variety of quality prospects in the minors/NCAA/KHL . Demidov , Fowler , Roy , Mailloux , Bech , Dobes , Florian Xhekaj , Tuch , Reinbacher and Hage . Laval Rockets are having a great start and seem to be in good hands with a solid coaching staff and player development team . If St-Louis steps down , they have Pascal Vincent to take the helm. Patience is a virtue …
Being “in the mix” would be like 5 more wins than we had last season. It wasn’t an unreasonable ask and still isn’t. Two wins in a row right now and we’re in a wild card spot. It’s a long season.
@ There is no chance in hell they are even getting near a playoff spot this year bud . They don’t have a second line center , d-men are still too young and even if they did make the playoffs they don’t have the goaltending to take them past first round .
You can tell how bad of a take this is because you listed Dvo as a guy who is supposed to be performing… since when are we trying to make the playoffs too 😂 this is a troll job by the sdpn crew 😂
I mean come on... I stopped when you said Allen was a better goalie ... Tell us you never watch a Canadiens game.without telling us. Allen costed us games last year while Montembault was stealing games. Now, our goalies are not stealing games except the first one against your team ! So yeah, keep talking about the leafs, I'm going back to QC media
I love when people pull the “they were just in the finals a couple years ago!” They weren’t ever good, just a fluke season with an easier format with price and webers corpse dragging you guys there.
While it is true that St. Louis may not be considered the best coach at the moment, it is important to take into account the rosters and evaluate the overall situation.
Steve is right here not making the playoffs is a big issues in our fan base. So yeah as much as possible for the playoffs we want to be in eveytime we can.
I watched the game last night with Primeau in goals. 3 of the 5 goals are junior goals. He was terrible and his stats are the worst in the league. At one point, you can't just blame the defense if your goalie can't stop a beachball. And the country club atmosphere must change. Was nice and all when St Louis got there and there was no expectation. But now, he must put his pants on and get the guys back to work or he's gonna find himself unemployed.
I agree about Primeau. I was defending him the last two yrs because he’s young but I’ve seen enough. I hope Fowler comes in next year as back up. Can’t be worse than
During a rebuild, patience is key. As well, progression is not linear. The Habs lack experience and talent.... 2nd youngest team in the league. Relax. Two more years to compete for the playoffs.
Cmon boys... We never expected the team to make the playoffs. Somebody said "we want to be in the mix."..which means maybe a better point total than last year. The pipeline of talent needs to be continued, which means..more high draft picks. It's year 3, it may take 3 more to get into playoffs. 2 more if the Hockey Gods are generous.
Every habs fan expect them to be good in 2-3years. If they can be in the mix before, fighting for the 4-5th spot in the division, everyone would be happy but also everyone knows that you need the full team healthy and every player to be able to show up every night. The team is really young, many players still needs to develop. After that period only, St Louis will maybe need to be replaced for someone who can do more than just developping players. There was so many coachs looking at their systems but never at the players. The priority now is the players, the system will follow with St Louis if he can or someone else when the team will have enough maturity. But 1 or 2 more high pick won't hurt.
Caufield being better is just because Ducharme was not letting caufield play. We all forget that Caufield was hot when Ducharme was benched by the nhl.
TLDR: No defence, and non-NHL goaltending. Montembeault is a known commodity at this point, he is what he is, which is a career .897sv% goalie. Don't even get me started on Primeau.
I think the Habs just need to sign a pair of defensive defenceman , you guys said it the problem is we're allowing to many goals.our offense is good and once we get Laine and Demidov in the mix watch out. there's gonna be some cap space next year once armia evans and dvorak are off the books.
Allen might have been a good guy in the locker room, a veteran presence but he was by far the worst goalie on the team last year. He allowed some soft goals mostly every game either that or he was locked in, no in between. I was suprised we got something for him at the deadline considering how other goalies with similar contract and stat were placed on waiver without being claimed. I think the lack of experience on the D core is what is arming the team the most. Harris and Kovacevic were definitly more NHL ready and defensivly aware despite both having a lower ceiling than Mailloux, Barron and Hutson. That and also Sean Monahan’s shoes haven’t been filled since. Now that the team has some expectation to be better it seems like all the guys who could have been a steady 2nd line center can’t take a step.
I don't mind them losing as long as there is progress. Near the end of the season last year the number 1 line was dangerous every shift. They can't get out of their end now. The 2 goalies made the saves they were supposed to. This year they let the soft ones in. The defence was getting steady. This year they are a mistake factory. I was so excited to see how they were going to build upon the end of the season. That excitement died pretty quick
Jake Allen last years with the habs was pretty bad, i think it's more the lost of Monahan and Kovasevich that impacted the team, Dach was suppose to step up which he didnt do yet.
They've been absolute dogshit and they're 4 points out of a wildcard spot haha...give it 30 games. They probably won't bounce back and steal a spot but they'll be better going forward
Marty is a large part of the issue. He has handcuffed his grit players like Pezz and Arber, who is a good defenseman and far better than give it away Matheson, and is running the ship into the shore. It is time for a tide change and for Mtrl to get a coach that doesn't need to be french.
As a Habs fan the real fans knew "being in the mix" was management's ticket sales pitch. Especially with Laine's injury. I'm sorry but Matheson and Savard are the team's worst defencemen right now. I'd rather watch Maillioux make mistakes and get games in. Matheson is playing way toouch. Savard is way too slow. Dach
Line 1 works Line 2 is injured or was injured Line 3 is a showcase line for washed overpaid vets Line 4 a 4th line Our best pair in defense is at best a very good 2nd pair on a contender and Montreal got a decent 2nd and whatever Primeau is, as a goaltender tandem.
They are badly coached for a young team they are coaching like they have a veteran team they are a young team and you have to put the correct plan in place to support the young players not leave them out to dry the young defense and goaltending are left holding the bag by themselves so many times
St. Louis's defensive system is just terrible, has been since he got there and I think it's hurting their young players in the long run. Your job as a coach on a rebuilding team is develop young players into at least decently well-rounded players first and foremost, he can teach offense but defense he's completely lost. Get an assistant to help with the defense, if things improve then great then if not maybe the problems are too deep to be fixed with just bringing on board an assistant.
Yea its tough. The habs haven’t been good for a couple years now and it’s not really getting any better, that’s the big problem imo. By year 3 of a rebuild there should be some improvement, not playoffs or anything but some improvement, it looks like it hasn’t happened.
The team is getting younger every year. They are still rebuilding. Not time to win, still time to add elite prospect. You are not looking to win with montembault and primeau.
200% in agreement that it was media hype … this Canadiens team are not even close to make the playoffs…… everyone out Hughes on a pedestal when he picked up Laine, who cares
I want to preface this with I love when yall talk habs, as a habs fan, I always appreciate it, I really enjoy when you talk about them. However, I feel like you're a little disconnected from the Habs fan bases actual feelings because you probably only see the tweets that get traction because they're insane.
Habs fans are upset, yes. Habs suck, yes. But the LARGE majority of Habs fans are not calling for St.Louis head, although they might be nervous about his ability to help this team turn the corner. The large majority of habs fans have no issue with the Habs record so far. The front office said "in the mix" before the season as they're expectations, which is obviously purposely vague. Habs fans thought it was possible they could be in the mix because they thought they had a healthy Laine and they didn't realize it would take Dach some time to get back into the swing of things, and they underestimated how much losing Kovacevic and Harris would hurt their backend in their own zone.
They've been awful in their own end and are allowing way too many high dangers chances. They haven't been getting bailed out by their goalies so they're getting pounded which is hurting their confidence, which is killing them in the O zone. If the D-zone tightens up a little, the rest of their game will come. Laine is coming back in a monthish, their defense will be more comfortable, Hutson will have more experience, Dach will get more and more comfortable. They will bounce back, but right now they suck. No doubt about that.
But again, the large majority of Habs fans do not care about the record. The reason Habs fans are upset right now has been how they're losing and how they look. Last season's team was a ton of fun to watch, and was very competitive, most 1 goal games in the league by a mile. The Habs played like 30+ 1 goal games last season. This season, they're getting blown out in their own barn, and look genuinely uninterested. That's why fans are upset. Not because they're losing, but how they're losing. Being bad this year, in terms of the rebuild, is probably a good thing. The top 5 of the draft this year looks stacked, they weren't going to make playoffs this season anyways.
TLDR: Habs fans just want to see their team TRY and COMPETE in games. They don't care if they lose the games, they just care how they're losing games. They want to be entertained while watching them lose.
you nailed it on the nose my man....the habs this year are a shell of the team they were last year (compete wise). I knew they were never going to be anything near contenders this year ESPECIALLY after Laine got injured. But outside looking in, there is something off....they looked great in the preseason, but when laine got injured its like the whole team just "settled". I don't know what it is, but they're give a fuck-o-meter this season is in the dumpster. I really hope they can figure it out and play that fun to watch, always on your ass game. im not calling for anyones head or trades that make no sense but i feel like they need a little shake up....I'd love to see primeau sent down or scratched for a few and give Dobes or hughes a sniff, stir it up a little.
As a Sens fan I appreciate your comment because it acknowledges that SDPN are genuine in their sincerity to provide objective analysis of any team in the NHL they look at it. However, I agree with you in that they are disconnected in how the majority of the fanbase might feel since they will likely look at the tweets or other social media which represent extremist fans (I felt they were similarly off when discussing what Sens fans' expectations were).
All that said, what the Habs are going through is what is typical of what rebuilds involve. Rebuilds are non-linear in progression and I see exactly that transpiring with Montreal, Ottawa, Detroit and Buffalo albeit I admit maybe Buffalo has been taking a bit too long.
Very well put man, couldn't of summed up my own feeling about the team any better. Habs fans can be their own worst enemy when talking about the team and other fans always just hear the worst of it.
This is exactly what I was thinking.
And we'd like Primeau to stop exactly one beach ball.
100% this!
Year 3 of a rebuild. Everyone needs to settle down.
I agree 💯 I just would love to see progress
@leeanderson4794 Rebuild progress is never linear. Typically, there's a gap caused by missing vets that were traded away, young players struggling to find another gear (although with good guidance, they get there), and brilliant contributors who are not yet ready to be on the current team. Usually, that gives you a predictable regression. It sucks. But also, it's normal. It's part of the process. Growing pains, if you will.
Management has to make sure not to panic and stick to the plan, instead of trying to pull easy fixes like in the days of Gainey, Gauthier, or Bergevin. I'm confident we have the right people in place.
We can criticize what the team is not doing well, of course. And we're upset because it's ugly. But we have to avoid catastrophising.
@@MrWillcapone yup if you look at teams that have won cups all ups and downs 70 to 80 points then boom 20 point jump in one season
Yes. I agree. Settle down. They may make some headway when Caulfield becomes a grandfather at the pace they're at now. A team is supposed to progress year over year but this team is regressing.
@DonHG32 teams in rebuilds progess fast as they can regress
You guys might not be wrong in totality but you get so many details wrong because you don’t know enough about the Habs. Nrwhook wasn’t traded for to be 2nd line centre.
1. No, Habs management did not say their goal was to make the playoffs. They wanted to be 'in the mix' is what they said (they are not so far, OBV)..
2. They are the second youngest team in the league
3. Also, they are the second youngest team in the league.
4. As well, they are the second youngest team in the league.
5. Everybody relax; the team is still in reconstruction territory.
I’m pretty sure if you take Carey Price off they are the youngest.
To be honest, taking a step meant finishing 11th in the East instead of 15th, not making the playoffs.
Also, Montembeault was MUCH better than Allen last season.
Yup. Everyone though Montambeault would be a decent transition goalie.
Primeau has no confidence now.
Yes he was!! Coming off the World Championship win he had confidence. I am wondering if the chatter that he would be the guy for the 4 Nations Cup got into his head in a bad way.
Steve admits he has seen only 2 Habs games. 'Last time we saw Monty it was a 47-save shutout'
Don't even bother commenting when you only watch them play the Leafs. Not possible to give an informed opinion.
Nothing of note said here.
These guys really need to bring in a guest host when they discuss the Habs, they clearly have no idea about what's happening with the team.
Good conversation! Like someone else mentionned, we're in year 3 of a rebuild. I expect this year to be another difficult year for the Habs. Hopefully, some progress this year and get better next year!
People kept saying Montreal's number one issue they needed to work on was their powerplay being in the worst in the league last year. I feel like St-Louis and the coaching staff have helped fix that issue with a sub par team.
Not sure why people are so unhappy without thinking and trusting the process.
It's a rebuild, we have one the youngest team in the NHL. Everyone needs to take their pulse and relax
I think it's too early to judge rn. They're not expected to make the playoffs so what matters rn is that the core is progressing on an individual level.
Adams starting to look like 2011 tim thomas with the mustache
Defense ceiling is higher this year, but they are younger. It will take two years for those kids to be able to play defense.
Let's get real and not go crazy...It's year 3 of rebuild and about 80% of it is done...Relax, most fans know and the other don't remember what a rebuilt feels like. We still miss in the line up futur superstar Ivan Demidov and almost if not ready for the league Hague, the futur in defense as Reinbacher, Mailloux and Engstrom and the goalie of the futur Jacob Fowler. One more top 6 forwards and we are ready ! Will it be under St-Louis ? Probably, the plan was for him to develop with the team, he is way to intelligent and adaptative to let go...He could use a good assistant coach for the defensive plays, cause offensively he's got good ideas ! Patience and also there are some positive with Hutson and Caufield...Let's see and at worst, we will add Hagens and be complete 100 % !!
The media didn’t hype up the habs , Goeff Molson , Kent Hughes and Gorton came out during pre season claiming the habs would be « in the mix » for a playoff spot .
That’s why some gullable habs fans want St-Louis’s head . They chose to believe the lie they where told and expect the impossible out of this team .
It’s going to take two to three more years before they can start thinking about the playoffs .
Rebuilding through drafting is a long process and they do have a good variety of quality prospects in the minors/NCAA/KHL .
Demidov , Fowler , Roy , Mailloux , Bech , Dobes , Florian Xhekaj , Tuch , Reinbacher and Hage .
Laval Rockets are having a great start and seem to be in good hands with a solid coaching staff and player development team .
If St-Louis steps down , they have Pascal Vincent to take the helm.
Patience is a virtue …
Being “in the mix” would be like 5 more wins than we had last season. It wasn’t an unreasonable ask and still isn’t. Two wins in a row right now and we’re in a wild card spot. It’s a long season.
@ There is no chance in hell they are even getting near a playoff spot this year bud .
They don’t have a second line center , d-men are still too young and even if they did make the playoffs they don’t have the goaltending to take them past first round .
You can tell how bad of a take this is because you listed Dvo as a guy who is supposed to be performing… since when are we trying to make the playoffs too 😂 this is a troll job by the sdpn crew 😂
I mean come on... I stopped when you said Allen was a better goalie ... Tell us you never watch a Canadiens game.without telling us. Allen costed us games last year while Montembault was stealing games. Now, our goalies are not stealing games except the first one against your team ! So yeah, keep talking about the leafs, I'm going back to QC media
You should be going back to school instead. "Costed"? Really? That's not a word chum
@scottmiller8617 ok mon Chum
Habs made the finals because of price. Hes the goat.
These guys need to just stick to the Leafs, they’re always so misinformed and wrong about every other team
They are rebuilding. Give them a break. God.
Classic Toronto fans
Says 2 guys that hailed Babcock
I love when people pull the “they were just in the finals a couple years ago!” They weren’t ever good, just a fluke season with an easier format with price and webers corpse dragging you guys there.
3 more years of this and then I am expecting big leaps from the Habs.
Everything will be good when Laine is back!
Playing full on attack, with a D core that young and bellow average goaltender is suicidal.
While it is true that St. Louis may not be considered the best coach at the moment, it is important to take into account the rosters and evaluate the overall situation.
Steve is right here not making the playoffs is a big issues in our fan base. So yeah as much as possible for the playoffs we want to be in eveytime we can.
I watched the game last night with Primeau in goals. 3 of the 5 goals are junior goals. He was terrible and his stats are the worst in the league. At one point, you can't just blame the defense if your goalie can't stop a beachball.
And the country club atmosphere must change. Was nice and all when St Louis got there and there was no expectation. But now, he must put his pants on and get the guys back to work or he's gonna find himself unemployed.
I agree about Primeau. I was defending him the last two yrs because he’s young but I’ve seen enough. I hope Fowler comes in next year as back up. Can’t be worse than
@@GeoGolfer I hope Fowler makes at least one year in the AHL.
@@mightydigebuge I know. You’re right. I just can’t anymore with Primeau 😂
During a rebuild, patience is key. As well, progression is not linear. The Habs lack experience and talent.... 2nd youngest team in the league. Relax. Two more years to compete for the playoffs.
Not that this has to do with anything, but what is the leafs identity…😂 you 3 released this video as the leafs get demolished by the rebuilding Sens.
Leafs identity is choke 😅
Cmon boys...
We never expected the team to make the playoffs. Somebody said "we want to be in the mix."..which means maybe a better point total than last year. The pipeline of talent needs to be continued, which means..more high draft picks. It's year 3, it may take 3 more to get into playoffs. 2 more if the Hockey Gods are generous.
Every habs fan expect them to be good in 2-3years. If they can be in the mix before, fighting for the 4-5th spot in the division, everyone would be happy but also everyone knows that you need the full team healthy and every player to be able to show up every night. The team is really young, many players still needs to develop. After that period only, St Louis will maybe need to be replaced for someone who can do more than just developping players. There was so many coachs looking at their systems but never at the players. The priority now is the players, the system will follow with St Louis if he can or someone else when the team will have enough maturity. But 1 or 2 more high pick won't hurt.
Caufield being better is just because Ducharme was not letting caufield play. We all forget that Caufield was hot when Ducharme was benched by the nhl.
First time ive agreed with every single word Adam said
TLDR: No defence, and non-NHL goaltending. Montembeault is a known commodity at this point, he is what he is, which is a career .897sv% goalie. Don't even get me started on Primeau.
I think the Habs just need to sign a pair of defensive defenceman , you guys said it the problem is we're allowing to many goals.our offense is good and once we get Laine and Demidov in the mix watch out. there's gonna be some cap space next year once armia evans and dvorak are off the books.
Allen might have been a good guy in the locker room, a veteran presence but he was by far the worst goalie on the team last year. He allowed some soft goals mostly every game either that or he was locked in, no in between. I was suprised we got something for him at the deadline considering how other goalies with similar contract and stat were placed on waiver without being claimed.
I think the lack of experience on the D core is what is arming the team the most. Harris and Kovacevic were definitly more NHL ready and defensivly aware despite both having a lower ceiling than Mailloux, Barron and Hutson.
That and also Sean Monahan’s shoes haven’t been filled since. Now that the team has some expectation to be better it seems like all the guys who could have been a steady 2nd line center can’t take a step.
Xhekaj was the only plus player last year on the Habs.
I don't mind them losing as long as there is progress. Near the end of the season last year the number 1 line was dangerous every shift. They can't get out of their end now. The 2 goalies made the saves they were supposed to. This year they let the soft ones in. The defence was getting steady. This year they are a mistake factory. I was so excited to see how they were going to build upon the end of the season. That excitement died pretty quick
MSL’s system doesn’t work for the defense he has.
Jake Allen last years with the habs was pretty bad, i think it's more the lost of Monahan and Kovasevich that impacted the team, Dach was suppose to step up which he didnt do yet.
They're not struggling. They are executing a long-term plan. Demidov and Hagens joining roster next year on entry-level contracts. Be afraid.
thx for giving some credit to Lukas Dostal finally he is so good
They've been absolute dogshit and they're 4 points out of a wildcard spot haha...give it 30 games. They probably won't bounce back and steal a spot but they'll be better going forward
Marty is a large part of the issue. He has handcuffed his grit players like Pezz and Arber, who is a good defenseman and far better than give it away Matheson, and is running the ship into the shore. It is time for a tide change and for Mtrl to get a coach that doesn't need to be french.
The playoffs run was driven by the players, Ducharme had nothing to do with. Just like when they won the cup in 1986.
As a Habs fan the real fans knew "being in the mix" was management's ticket sales pitch. Especially with Laine's injury. I'm sorry but Matheson and Savard are the team's worst defencemen right now. I'd rather watch Maillioux make mistakes and get games in. Matheson is playing way toouch. Savard is way too slow. Dach
Line 1 works
Line 2 is injured or was injured
Line 3 is a showcase line for washed overpaid vets
Line 4 a 4th line
Our best pair in defense is at best a very good 2nd pair on a contender and Montreal got a decent 2nd and whatever Primeau is, as a goaltender tandem.
They are talking like they don’t remember 2006-2016!😂
Rebuilds don’t take 3 years
Beggin for Hagens
It’s the best league with the best players in the best division……
They are badly coached for a young team they are coaching like they have a veteran team they are a young team and you have to put the correct plan in place to support the young players not leave them out to dry the young defense and goaltending are left holding the bag by themselves so many times
Every bottom feeder team in the Atlantic got better. the goal was 8-11 in the East. Give it 2 more years
Why are they struggling? Montreal has become a dump and no one wants to play/stay there.
Dear God I agree with Adam wtf is wrong with me
lol good one
Hey now! Don't call the Habs soft, they're the 7th most penalized team in the NHL. According to the refs, they're pretty mean.
They just arent good.
mtl has the worst NHL goaltenders duo and a very young defensive squad and a wrak offensive punch enough said
We agree with you guys most of us wanted Patrick Roy as head coach
great video fellas
-habs fan
St. Louis's defensive system is just terrible, has been since he got there and I think it's hurting their young players in the long run. Your job as a coach on a rebuilding team is develop young players into at least decently well-rounded players first and foremost, he can teach offense but defense he's completely lost. Get an assistant to help with the defense, if things improve then great then if not maybe the problems are too deep to be fixed with just bringing on board an assistant.
Yea its tough. The habs haven’t been good for a couple years now and it’s not really getting any better, that’s the big problem imo. By year 3 of a rebuild there should be some improvement, not playoffs or anything but some improvement, it looks like it hasn’t happened.
The team is getting younger every year. They are still rebuilding. Not time to win, still time to add elite prospect.
You are not looking to win with montembault and primeau.
Right now Montreal’s progress is addition by subtraction.
Is this news?
Is Montreal the first team to go through a rebuild 😂
200% in agreement that it was media hype … this Canadiens team are not even close to make the playoffs…… everyone out Hughes on a pedestal when he picked up Laine, who cares
Habs fan. You're right. Team struggling. Wrong coach.
Claude Julien is a great coach. Bring him back.
Adam is more realistic than 95% of montreal media
Until the Habs get a goalie who can stop pucks outside of the first game, they will never be good again
I have been ranting about this as a Habs fan all season . You can't get outshot every game and expect to win . Fire st.louis
Martin St Louis is the problem.
The Habs aren't struggling they are meeting expectations. Habs have a toilet seat as their team logo.