Pastor Randy Skeete - Face to Face With God Pt. 3 - Father, Son, and Holy Spirit

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  • @michaelkavanagh8861
    @michaelkavanagh8861 Місяць тому +5

    It’s better to go to the house of mourning than to the house of feasting, pastor you are right,Ecclesiastes 7:2

  • @deavenalajenio6777
    @deavenalajenio6777 18 днів тому

    Amen 💯

  • @renealvarez01
    @renealvarez01 9 днів тому

    Another 1

  • @thirdangelsmessage1669
    @thirdangelsmessage1669 Місяць тому +1

    How many faces does God have? 1 or 3?

    • @quintessentialbrick8452
      @quintessentialbrick8452 Місяць тому

      If you mean physical faces, 2, because the Holy Spirit is a spirit and does not have physical form.
      If you mean personalities, 3 - God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit.

    • @thirdangelsmessage1669
      @thirdangelsmessage1669 Місяць тому

      @@quintessentialbrick8452 The Bible says God has a face, not two or three. The Bible also clearly distinguishes between God and Christ, and never says "God the Son" or "God the Spirit".
      God the Father is a Spriit we are told in John 4. God has a Spirit, just as you do. But God has a Son.
      Christ being God is referring to his nature. He was in the form of God, then made in the likeness of a man. The word was made flesh. John 1. That's talking about what he was, not who he was. Very misused passage.
      His Father is the only true God. (John 17:3) And there is "One God the Father" (Eph 4:6, 1 Cor 8:6)

    • @quintessentialbrick8452
      @quintessentialbrick8452 Місяць тому

      @@thirdangelsmessage1669 I assume this is to say that there is no trinity.
      The fastest counterpoint i can think of is Hebrews 1, where after Jesus death and resurrection, God the Father refers to Jesus as God.
      Hebrews 1:8 But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.10 And, Thou, Lord, in the beginning hast laid the foundation of the earth; and the heavens are the works of thine hands:
      11 They shall perish; but thou remainest; and they all shall wax old as doth a garment;
      12 And as a vesture shalt thou fold them up, and they shall be changed: but thou art the same, and thy years shall not fail.
      So God the Father calls Jesus God, and identified Him as being eternal.
      For more proof of the trinity, please listen to Pr Skeete in the above video. He knows more

    • @thirdangelsmessage1669
      @thirdangelsmessage1669 Місяць тому

      @@quintessentialbrick8452 As I said the word was God, not denying that. He was. Hebrews 1 talks of him being in the form of God(Made Higher than the angels). Heb 2 talks about him being (Made lower than the angels). 2 natures. Ellen White says that Jesus was "God in infinity, but not in personality". (UL 367)
      I believe his nature was infinitely God, as much God as God is. But in regards to his identity he is the only begotten son of God, and there is no other who can identify as that. This is the original Adventist pioneer view. You should look into it. Blessings, David.

    • @Nathanael_Grant
      @Nathanael_Grant 9 днів тому

      What are you both saying??

  • @thomasehrlich8623
    @thomasehrlich8623 Місяць тому

    Why should you worship a God that condones and promotes slavery? Exodus 13.

    • @quintessentialbrick8452
      @quintessentialbrick8452 Місяць тому

      God does not promote slavery. God tolerated it because it was a worldwide and treated like just a part of life. It was similar to employment today. Imagine if God told us of today not to be employed because we should have freedom in our labours?
      Also of note, slavery back then was not uniformly the same as we imagine it today. We think of slavery as unending labour without pay, but the slaves back then were thought of very similarly to employees today, at least in Israel. Maybe they did not have all the same rights, but it was not as bad as we think. The Bible actually gave the Israelites strict guidelines on how to treat slaves. I think many minimum wage jobs today are far more cruel and exacting than being such a slave would be. There was even a guarantee that slaves would be set free every seventh year. At that point, it's pretty much just like a modern day contract. The slaves even had the option to continue working as a slave for the rest of their lives. This tells you a lot. People wanted to keep being a slave rather than be free. This means they were not mistreated, at least such would be an exception rather than the rule.

    • @thomasehrlich8623
      @thomasehrlich8623 Місяць тому

      @ God said you could beat your slave and as long as they didn’t die within two days you received no punishment. Exodus 13. This condoning and promoting of slavery is immoral.

    • @quintessentialbrick8452
      @quintessentialbrick8452 Місяць тому

      @@thomasehrlich8623 I think you are referring to Exodus 21
      20 “And if a man beats his male or female servant with a rod, so that he dies under his hand, he shall surely be punished. 21 Notwithstanding, if he remains alive a day or two, he shall not be punished; for he is his property.
      Its important to get some context on slavery in that era. In ancient times criminals were sometimes sold into slavery by the judges; in some cases, debtors were sold by their creditors; and poverty even led persons to sell themselves or their children
      Kidnapping people for slavery was forbidden.
      Again, back then this was suppoesd to just be a business transaction, so my employment comparison stands. Just like we might receive written and verbal warnings, back then they gave a physical punishment.
      If you read carefully, it says that a slave's life is guaranteed, which makes being an slave to Israel better than any other nations of old, where they would kill you for any or no reason at all.
      Further of note, any critical injuries allowed slaves to go free: 26 “If a man strikes the eye of his male or female servant, and destroys it, he shall let him go free for the sake of his eye. 27 And if he knocks out the tooth of his male or female servant, he shall let him go free for the sake of his tooth.
      While God allowed slavery because it was a universal practice, the underlying message was this:
      The Israelites had lately been servants themselves, and now that they were to have servants under them, they were to beware of indulging the spirit of cruelty and exaction from which they had suffered under their Egyptian taskmasters. The memory of their own bitter servitude should enable them to put themselves in the servant's place, leading them to be kind and compassionate, to deal with others as they would wish to be dealt with.

    • @quintessentialbrick8452
      @quintessentialbrick8452 Місяць тому

      @@thomasehrlich8623 I think you are referring to Exodus 21.
      20 “And if a man beats his male or female servant with a rod, so that he dies under his hand, he shall surely be punished. 21 Notwithstanding, if he remains alive a day or two, he shall not be punished; for he is his property.
      It is important to get some background on slavery back then as a common practice. In ancient times criminals were sometimes sold into slavery by the judges; in some cases, debtors were sold by their creditors; and poverty even led persons to sell themselves or their children.
      Kidnapping people to make them slaves was strictly forbidden.
      Just like today you receive verbal or written warnings, back then they got a physical punishment.
      If a master gave a punishment that caused the servant to die, he was punished severely. If he caused severe injury, the slave was allowed to go free. There was therefore no abuse of persons allowed.
      26 “If a man strikes the eye of his male or female servant, and destroys it, he shall let him go free for the sake of his eye. 27 And if he knocks out the tooth of his male or female servant, he shall let him go free for the sake of his tooth.
      So in truth, being a slave in Israel was not that bad, especially if you consider in other ancient nations they could kill the slaves for any reason or no reason at all - they viewed slaves as livestock. In God's nation, slaves were given protection.
      Again, I refer to the fact that slaves even had the choice to remain slaves rather then go be free, and many chose this option. It could thus not be that bad.

    • @quintessentialbrick8452
      @quintessentialbrick8452 Місяць тому

      Also of interest, such punishments are still in use today, especially in countries such as Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, Iran, Malaysia, Yemen, etc. In many cases, the punishment given still today is more severe than was allowed in Israel, e.g. in Saudia Arabia if certain conditions are met they will cut off the right hands of thieves.
      In Israel such an injury would not be allowed, and would permit the slave to go free.
      Slavery in ancient Israel is pretty good even in comparison with some places in the world today.