DRILL PRESS - Testing The Cheapest Drill On AMAZON
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Grinder on the side, drill press closer to the corner but still enough clearance to clear for grinding/drilling long material.
Do the drill press and bench grinder have the same footprint? A QD system would be a good solution in my plebeian thinking.
Why did you photoshop a Starbucks coffee in the video
option 4, return the table top press for the floor model, issue resolved. Yet another great video. May Yahweh guide and protect your family.
Could you do a review of the WEN Planner if you havent already done so? Nice job on the video too.
Quick tip for those small drill presses. Fill the vertical tube with sand. Will cut down on vibration quite a bit.
Thank you for that!
That will help a little, but most of the vibration is from excessive runout on the quill shaft (the shaft the chuck mounts to). Just a product of a cheap drill press.
I don't like sand
Biggest issue with sand it moisture. With cheap Chinese metal that pipe will rust out in a couple of years.
perhaps lead shot and silica pellets to dry out the interior and give longevity to the action of doing the anvil sound deadening trick? i may be wrong & open to discussion
"confusing metric system" that's something I don't hear often...
haha, I chuckled on that one too.
So confusing! That’s probably why only USA, Burma and Liberia are the only countries in the whole world that not use the metric system 😂😂😂
cant teach a dumb dog smart tricks (:
@@shadow3799 can't argue with that ! A simpler and more logic system is indeed better suited for stupid people. Also like you I guess poor countries cannot afford waisting mental ressources dealing with weird unneeded complexity. ;)
@@shadow3799 Like Germany, Canada, Japan lol?
I actually have the same drill press. I don't do anything really heavy but I've been using the same one for 5 or 6 years with 0 issues.
It looks identical to a Shop Fox drill press i got back in 2004. Besides some surface rust it's still working great.
Can you control the speed with this, like can it go real slow or does it have set speeds
@@mannyfresh1087 It isn't controlled by a VFD but by the pulley ratio. He changes the speed at 6:45 and you can see the chart in the background showing speeds.
Good to know.
@@mannyfresh1087 it has speeds. The diagram is inside the cover of the machine. Where the bet is.
A cheap drill press is a lot better than not having a drill press.
I love American made machinery.... the problem is that most used American shop equipment is in very bad shape badly abused missing parts or way too large way overpriced for a home workshop. The alternative is buying something like a Wen which is cost effective the right size and still better made than Harbor Freight plus they sell spare parts which Harbor Freight does not do..
I agree and that's what she said
That Starbucks cup doesn’t seem like it was actually there.
I can't look away
its not real
i also thought it was edited in, i could not look away from it either.
Thinking that's his dig on Game of Thrones episode.
It’s got to be fake. Wtf. “If I was sponsored I would tell you guys” said wranglerstar. Lol
Forget the drill press. Tell us about your space-age translucent starbucks coffee cup that is impervious to camera focus.
Yes that's what I noticed also. Back drop. Looks fake. But it's a contrasting offset white. I thought Wrangler 🌟 didn't like expensive coffee. 🤔🤣
Must be hiding something.
It's a joke from the GOT episode where there was a Starbucks cup left in the shot
it was to distract you from locktite on shelf
I’m only 14 but I’ve enjoyed this series it’s helping me build my first work bench with the money from my summer farm job my only addition was a metal table addition onto the main wooden table to practice my welding at
How's the welding going?
The moral of the video is if you skip Starbucks 16 times you can buy this drill press
#3 bc i think the grinder could get in the way if you're drilling something very long
bo lorenz i agree if you can approach the bench from the sides its the best choice. Also I think it’s better than behind the vise side (option 4) because if the bench is against a wall the grinding side of the grinder will be further away from the wall behind the bench. well I suppose you could always switch the stone to the other side
Was going to say this. 👍
I agree with option 3. Having the drill press on the corner with the grinder to the side on the side away from the vise. So, you do not have to walk around behind them to use that bench space. Also, it leaves the most amount of space open on the middle of the bench and by the vise.
Exactly!
Good call! I actually deleted my answer after I saw yours.
I would say bench grinder on the side but keep the drill press up a few inches so you can grind long things also
That was my very same thought Mike. I guess it's like what's often said, great minds think alike.
Thats what she said
Just wanted to say how much I appreciate all of you guys collective knowledge. I'm 27 and just starting out, a bit late. These videos and the comments have helped me more than I could ever say. Thanks to all the old timers passing they're wisdom.
I bought this little drill a couple of months ago on Amazon for 75 bucks, free shipped. It was my first drill press and I could not be happier. I already used it with PVC, different types of wood and bits and more recently used it to drill through some 4mm (5/32") piece of metal without problems. So far so good.
Great channel, I quite liked the bench build series, gave me a couple of ideas for a similar project.
option 3 mate, gives best access to all three. Grandad knows his stuff
Opens box and immediately throws instructions on the ground, my kind of style
Mine too!!!!😁🤣😂👍
A B&O (Bang and Olufsen - Radio and grammophone producers) technician once said: If everything else fails, consult the manual!
Glad I wasn't the only one that noticed that. "I'm a man. I don't need instructions." :)
Instructions are for east coast people
@@yvindascanius6061 If at first you don't succeed, dig in the trash for the instructions.
Hell yeah, I've had this drill press for 2 years and had zero problems with it! Definitely recommend it to anyone who is looking for the cheapest yet practical option out there.
Same! I dont run it daily but it gets used several times a week. I havent had any issues.
@@rastamon5969 yeah it's a lot slower. The magic is also in the drill bit. A handful of really high quality carbide or cobalt drill bits can work wonders on hardened steel. Even with this press, a little patience, and some lube like cutting oil or 80w gear oil I usually dont have any issues. A good vice helps too
This is an amazing video, seeing a man recreate an environment of another man that he respected so heavily. This type of stuff is important and I hope your children do the same or at least something equivalent. Thank you for this.
What a great comment 🙂
I think the cup was there for the comments we will comment about that cup and he will get some easy comments without asking
Shahajahan Shaju also most likely making fun of product placement like the Starbucks cup in game of thrones
I purchased the 10" version of this, I've owned it for a little over a year, the motor ate a bushing, so I called WEN up. customer service is awesome , they sent me a new motor right out. No fuss at all. I couldn't be happier. I also have a wen belt sander that's been very reliable.
@Evermore The irony to all this is they are ALL made in China! Read above to see the comment I've left on this video...
Really shocked to hear this. Good to know.
As an older generation viewer I really wish this kind of content was available when I was younger. The things you can learn!
well many of us wish we had the quality tools u had at that time.
The Harbor Freight Drill press has the same specifications, costs less, comes with a light and is easier to get replaced under warranty.
Yep, got mine for $56! Because it's just for meaningless junk 🤣 Actually, I don't think I've used it in 4 years .....but, hey, I've got one dammit!!!🤣
9/16 bolt instead of confusing metric...
I love that kind of humor
Funniest thing I ever heard. Americans find multiplying and dividing by ten "confusing".
@@corydorastube Can't wrap their heads around easy and logical things. They just have to complicate everything. ' cause "Murica"
Not totally convinced it was humor???
Because there's nothing more complicated than single digit numbers !
America is the ONLY COUNTRY that doesn't use the metric system
Cody, (option: all of the above)
* Mount the tools on wood (same exact size for each tool)
* Make the wood bolt through to the bench,
* Make the bolt holes the *same configuration* for the grinder and the drill press (hence the equally sized wood), then
* Pick your multiple placement locations (for all 4 options) and drill/bolt through the table.
THEN you could change the placement of the tools depending on the need (like Jack's first garage being small and needing all tools front mounted.)
two suggestions, on the holder your grandfather built, take an old innertube and cut strips to glue to
eh V section. It will hold items more securely when drilling them. second one is drill a hole i your
bench and use hold downs to secure it when you need it up front. You can remove them and
set the drill back and out of your way giving you more room to use on the front of the bench.
Honestly love this video, it really shows a very descriptive review on a necessity tool. It really gave me a real description of what I’m going to get if I ordered it. It’s perfect for the common diy’er! Thank you for this great vid, keep up the good work
BEST SERIES...Honestly...👍👍👍😊😁💛...
Testing cheap Tools...
This helps me start my own small simple workshop...
And I also liked when you used to test too tools against each other.
Cheapest forklift on Amazon!?
Haha 👍
What? You don't have a forklift? 😎
You know it would actually be very useful to have a pallet jack to move all your benches and large tools around.
Thank you for all your advice and great content! I'm trying to build my own workshop from basically nothing! Recently built a work bench for under $10 from some pallets that I got and it sounds too good to be true but it's a sturdy table that's a 48" x 42" table top and I'm working on some shelving in it and eventually some drawers!
"Confusing metric system". Lol America is bizarro world.
I live in the US and metric is so much easier to use especially when doing precision work. I always make sure to have a few metric tape measures handy for certain projects.
Yes they are weird af
It’s unfortunately what we’re used to. We use a strange mix of metric & imperial
Metric is way better for everything but hydraulic hoses the only thing imperial bsp is better for
Corner mount drill press!
I adjust the grub screw on the head frequently. I swing the head over the bench edge for drilling tall/long jobs.
Metric: For people with ten digits, not eight or sixteen.
I have 32 thank you very much.
10 is nice and all, but I like base 60 more.
But we got this imperial system from you Brit's and then you abandoned it. Perhaps Brexit-metric? ;-) Back on topic, I have this Wen drill press and perfectly adequate for my needs at an excellent price. Place the grinder around the corner and save ~a foot of frontal space is my vote.
@@ElectricityTaster 11 is better.
@@Huey52123 They still buy imperial amounts of beer, so at least there's that.
Loved watching you toss the manuals and instructions on the floor without a word about it. Man's man!
My granddad was also a handy man. My father would tell me stories about how he always took everything apart, and always had his hands in something. I hardly knew him, but everyone says I'm a lot like him. When I saw your drill press jig it reminded me of the stuff he used to make. Unfortunately all of his tools are gone, and all I received was an aquarium stand. It's not fancy, but its very practical and solid as all hell. This is why I'm subscribed to this channel
13mm = 1/2". Bench grinder on the side. This will allow bigger items to be ground or drilled without running into the other tool.
What about the vice versa
@@josemuralles226 Could work too. Just in my experience I have larger things to drill than to grind so would go for the greater clearance of having the drill on the front of the bench. In my own shop I have the grinder on the front of the bench and the drill is a self-standing one off by itself and that is my preferred set-up. In this case though, we are restricted to a single bench for both tools.
This series is awesome! For a guy like me who rarely would need a tool like this, but still wants one handy, These are good alternatives to having to go to a buddy's shop
There's literally a chart of recommended speeds for various materials on the sticker right next to the pulley diagrams.
I have that one. Works great for milling out 80% lowers.
Sorry to show my ignorance, but what is an "80% lower"?
@@843292 80% complete firearm lower. You have to mill out certain areas as well as drill holes to make it into a complete lower. Typically AR-15 although there are Glock, Sig & 1911 80% as well.
@@sithyarael6807 Very cool! Thanks for the info Sith. Found this video: ua-cam.com/video/U9zio3k3eVk/v-deo.html
Aluminum or just poly?
@@dorvinion AR Aluminum only.
i like my handles hand tight. sometimes when drilling something cumbersome they are in the way and i only use one and unscrew the other
I'm in the process of building out my own shop in kind of an all around versatile shop from heavy duty big rig repairs to maybe wood working I dont watch your channel near as much as I should because you give a wealth of knowledge I just dont have a whole lot of free time but you're helping me immensely!
Looks like a pretty decent machine! Now we need the cheapest band saw and maybe even the cheapest lathe!
I have the Wen 12-inch drill press and couldn’t be happier. Great value for a general use drill press! Option 3 You gain room to work on larger items with the drill press.
everyone focused on the "red herring" starbucks cup to throw you off the Loctite bottle on the shelf
That’s just what I was thinking lol
This drill press makes the third neat reviews of yours I've watched this morning. The Wen grinder, the welder, and this Wen drill press. Thank you. Great reviews!
I've always wanted one of these mini drill presses because they just seem so practical. Drilling perfectly straight holes can be an absolute chore and when working with very small parts its near impossible without a drill press.
We all need a positive start to today's comments.
So go pick up the instruction manual first. (Young people are watching, ya know.)
The work bench I use is all steel with heavy angle iron legs. It is 10' long. My son in law inherited it from his Dad. And he lets me use it all I want.
The vise is a good, heavy one. Bolted on. Everything else is moved in and out for use or so it can rest out of the way.
The drill press and bench grinder are mine.
The drill press is a Delta, and is in between yours, in quality, and the similar size one from Craftsman. I am happy with it. I never have need to bolt or clamp it down. These are called bench top drill presses, or something like that to indicate they are not the tall ones that stand on the floor.
I am with you. Sometimes you can fight with an item for years before the simple answer comes to mind -- as in the case of installing the drill press levers with Loctite. By watching your videos I have conquored a number of these items. But I would use Blue Loctite more than red. In my world, many things need dismantling at one time or another. But in the mean while, they were secure.
Thanks for a good video. Good Sabbath to you and yours.
Im a young guy trying to set up a shop could you review the cheapest bandsaw?
Yes. I'm looking for a bandsaw at the moment!
You can build one out of wood ua-cam.com/video/aiDJp6utmUM/v-deo.html
I have the Skil tool brand 9 inch bandsaw it stays in my garage through the winter months here in central Michigan. It has held up well plus I bought it used from an older gentleman that used it regularly in his small furniture business. He said when he sold it to me that he really liked it but with his business growing he needed a better larger one. There is also a UA-cam channel called punished props academy the creator there has the same model as mine and he loves it for his projects. Hopefully I helped you guys out some.
Look for a used one. While you're looking into one make sure you can get parts and blades- not an odd length. Beware of the northern tool/harbor freight brand one's unless its a super good deal
Shield Spear please do
Before watching the entire video, I will say that I have purchased a few different tools made by WEN (wood lathe, vertical band saw, 4X36 belt sander, 1X30 belt sander and scroll saw). I am definitely a budget builder and I have been very satisfied with every product I’ve received. I was thinking of buying the drill press and I love your reviews. Keep up the good work sir.
Few months late to this but I've had my Wen Drill Press for over a year now and bought it for the price point as well and absolutely love it. It's done everything I've needed it to do and never let me down when I needed to drill a hole in wood, metal, plastic, or leather ( yes, I use it on 14+oz leather ). Great tool and great price and while I don't have a dedicated work bench I opted for mobile carts for all of my shop tools so I can easily move everything around in my shop as I need or don't need it around my actual outfeed/assembly table.
Loved the video and review and I'll be watching more of your videos for sure.
8:50 on the right side of the screen the star bucks cup why does it look so photoshopped lol
Cause it is?
@@caarll product placement
@@akarandom1 I was just letting Cameron know it was photoshopped. Had nothing to do with product placement.
Should've added some blur to it, make it more real.
Keen eye - good catch..
Honestly brother, setting the grinder on the outside seems a prudent way to move forward. It will give you more room for the longer projects across the front of the bench.
I’ve really enjoyed watching Kyle Chandler review tools. Clear eyes, full hearts, can’t lose!
My grandad died when I was 7 and I inherited his work shop unfortunately we've never had any where to put it however in a few months I'm moving to somewhere with the space to set up a work shop of my own and I'm so excited.
"The Chinesium doesn't like to be over-tightened." 🤣🤣🤣
This channel has a few chinese jokes and “master race” mentions making the vibe a bit weird...
@@tianwang1630 Yes.
Thanks for the recommendations. Once i get my garage cleaned out, i want to set up a little shop to work in.
Love how he just nonchalantly throws the directions on the ground
Thanks so much for your detailed assembly! It helped me assemble my drill press with confidence. Great video!
Why is there a tiny Starbucks cup edited in randomly
I was just about to comment about it
I was just about to ask too. lol
Kadri Alo because it’s funny
My guess ... troll bait. So many people feed the trolls...I love the 'tweaking' -- I find it quite amusing
@@Robert_H_Diver After scrolling through the comments... I would say that it was a successful troll to be sure!
I'd say if Grandad had it like option 4 on the side near the vice, Then who's to argue with all his years of experience, not I.
I had a clarke drill press which seems about the same price and quality and was very happy with it
I just wanted to say thank you. I am a small town preacher and so meany people just cuss and act horrible on UA-cam and I was just clicking through and happened to see your stuff. I am subscribing to your channel and will also recommend this channel for others.
I have that same drill from 1995. It has been outside on my bench rain snow and thousands of hours. One of my best tools ever!
Number 3, just due to the grinder getting in the way if you need to drill into something that is long!
8:20
Nobody:
Me: photoshops Starbucks onto bench
yea ı see that 2
Its just the focus fool
Product placement
@@danw5996 you really think hes gonna take the time to photoshop that in? Look at his thumbnails lol
yea saw that too
I put my Grinder independent from my bench. I took a 16 inch truck rim welded a heavy automatic flywheel underneath of it then on the top I put a piece of 3-inch pipe up to a small platform that the grinder Mounts to. We love it in the shop because we can roll it to wherever we need to just like you would roll a propane tank and then it tucks nicely under the edge of the bench.
When i set up my first tool bench i had the drill press on the outer side, then the grinder, and my vise on opposite end.
Now, i still have my drill press and vice on opposite ends, however my grinders are stored on a shelf mounted to a section of 2x12 with some affixed alignment dowels and holes which i can clamp to the bench when i need them.
I did this because i have a few different sizes of bench grinders with different kinds of wheels... Cause that was easier than constantly switching between a wire wheel and a polishing wheel
Is that Starbucks cup a game of thrones reference? Haha
Have you ever checked out the Tormek low speed wet grinders? Got one at work and it's a dream for precision sharpening
I've used this press for years and it's great. Of note, your 9/16" bolt is actually one of those "confusing" 14mm metrics...
Thank you! This answered my questions about this tool. Bench grinder on the end, at a 90 degree angle from the drill press. This will allow you to move material around as you want to drill. Don't have them side by side like they sat in the video. This limits your room to utilize your press.
i think i’ll take a ride to starbucks. i suddenly have a craving for overpriced crappy coffee
It looked like it was PhotoShopped in there.
James Hall hes picking on game of thrones
Weird, I was feeling like picking up some Spam. I suddenly have a craving for cheap terrible "meat"
Edit: The Spam is from a different video, not this one. "Workbench for Cheap" video. I watched it right before this one and thought it was the same video xD
@@Matio25091 Is that here, too? I missed it
@@ArkansasPilgrim Dammit. I'm only slightly intoxicated. The Spam is from the "Workbench for Cheap" video, not this one xD xD
option 3 gives you a little more room for larger items, you wont be so confined
Great video, and great review. Having recently begun shopping for a drill press, living only 20 minutes away from a Harbor Freight store, of course my first thoughts were of their brand ... And after watching a couple of misc reviews, readily lost interest. Next, I began looking at WEN, and ended up purchasing a 10 in. model. I seriously considered the model which you highlight in this video, but the 10 in model offered a couple if features I really like.
You seem to be personnel knowledge in shop equip, and appreciate your input on these WEN presses .... Mine has not yet arrived, but I look forward to getting it together. I want to thank you for sharing the angle iron device tat your grand-dad created for cradling round object drilling. It sounds like you hold this man's wisdom in great appreciation ..... I too was Blessed with such a grandfather, and will miss him for life. Thank you for your UA-cam channel ..... I'm now a subscriber!
P.S. Regarding location of various tools, wise points! Thnx again, and Blessings back to you as well. ..... (THE most important thing to keep in mind!)
I went with the 10 inch variable speed model after watching this video. It had just a little more of size and strength. Same with the grinder. Just the next size up. So far I am really impressed with the WEN quality. I really wanted to buy American, but there was nothing available that compared. Then I got the WEN 6 inch vise. Once again, not disappointed. I had never heard of them a month ago, now I'm a fan.
Option #5: Leave drill press unmounted, it can be moved around and clamped down as needed.
There is no one right answer, as different projects will have different requirements.
xenaguy01 I mounted mine to a block of wood to make it more stable and it can be moved and clamped down easily.
Noone:
Wranglerstar: "None of your confusing metric system!"
Very informative! Thank you!
Option 3 I think the side is the best option because your material won't be effected by the other tool. Which side is probably personal preference. Might look better having the 2 short tools together (vise,grinder) that's what I would do. Thanks again for sharing your thoughts and videos Rodney
Having no clear space eitherside of the drill press is something a east coster would do.
I like the nice stand up floor drill-presses myself.
Nah, east coast guys just run full size floor standing drill presses
These little bench top drill presses are more of a west coast thing
"None of your confusing metric system...'
*laughs in 10x
Im pretty sure hes joking, and if he is its FUNNY
Do imperials laugh in 12x?
@@daftnord4957 :)
@@daftnord4957 In x12 and x4, x6, x7, x8, x16, x18, x32...
They have a lot to laugh about...
@@blahorgaslisk7763 hahahaha good one!
5,280 ft = 1,760 yards = 1 mile
100,000 cm = 1000 m = 1 km
When I was working machining jet engine super metals, we would have to take the prints from Kawasaki, Mitsubishi, and other foreign based companies and have our engineers redo the entire print converted to standard measurements. We'd cut it in standard, measure it in standard on the floor, the CMM measures it in standard, and then everything is converted to metric by the computer in the end to verify nominal dimensions..... 🤦♂️
What a mess it all was!!
I love that you teach us every tools apart how is working, and if is worth it.....great job.....loooooot of thanks from Norway :)
I really enjoy your Amazon series. Thanks!
Screw bends:
"Let's not expect anything unrealistic".
Uses metric system:
"I don't like that".
#3, bench grinder on side. Frees up space along front to work on bigger pieces.
We have a WEN generator, I’m very happy with it. It saved us after hurricane Ian, was able to power our fridge, small portable AC, some lights and chargers all at the same time.
Well I reckon for everyone out there it makes sense to clamp everything on, test it out, then see which works best. But for me, I'd keep the vice and drill press on a corner, then throw the grinder on the drill press side
Use a common Forktruck to move your inexpensive budget friendly common man's workbench. LOL
Why not make the drill press and grinder movable? You can store them under the bench when not needed.
Views and Reviews maybe build an adapter plate which could quick attach either tool.
Great review and assembly walk through. I bought the 4214 and waiting for it to be delivered.
i got one of larger models from Wen . when you believe you wont come back to it for awhile clean fully and wipe down with a light oil to exposed bare metal. I learned fromnot experience but a lack of opportunity to work with it...YET, and lube the chuck, base plate crank and pivot points they got options for more to do with these presses. they aren't bad just not Bridgeport machinery great.
Keep both on modular mounts for versatility.
"Confusing metric system"
1mm
10mm = 1cm
100cm = 1m
1000m = 1km
Its confusing when you're not used to it. An easy conversion into meters means nothing when we use inches and feet with increments of 1/16 of an inch
@@duin2in in Australia we use both all the time, our standard is metric but we use inches and fractions also. Converting is the only problem, lucky we have google now.
Even Celsius makes more sense to me 0° is freezing point and 100° is boiling point...
It was 46° at my house yesterday... that's hot!!
Yeah, counting by ten is super difficult.
@@bythestump nobody said counting to 10 is difficult. How many mm in a 1/16", 1/4", 1/2", 3/4", 1"? Is it still an easy count to 10?
@Neurolicious Correct we are actually the ninth brightest according to iq. Not bad out of 195 so your point was what?
My husband and I have a handful of WEN products and really like them. I chose them not only for the price, but because WEN offers replacement parts as well as blow-apart diagrams of their products, two things I could not find for most of the brands sold in big box stores.
The price is right i have the exact same on.. mine went together flawlessly it works well I'm very pleased with mine, for the amount if drill pressing I do
Grandaddy put that coffee right there next to the grinder if my memory serves me correctly.
Yup, Jackson W..... But we know granddaddy didn't play with wussified $4 a cup starfunk coffee. No, he drank used motor oil with a pinch of Cherrywood sawdust - never had a second of arthritis and got his fiber too, but he definitely smoked cigars, like a real man does.
@@12B4Christ Damn straight
@@12B4Christ heh. heckin a
What do I really need a drill press for? Trying to explain to the wife.
Just for the good
To drill accurate 90 degree holes.
Sufficient pressure for clean cutting through metal, 90 degree holes, helps with morticing, jigs for repeatable cuts a set distance from an edge/end, accurate depth stop...
I’m already having that conversation in my head.
I never questioned my husband about any tools he wanted to purchase, or any purchase for that matter, because he was such a great handyman around the house, and always took care of things right away. Miss him terribly.
So, I don't quite understand when I hear that men have to justify to their wives, but maybe being prompt to take care of things around the house, is the key. IDK, but lol...I want a bench grinder.
Thank you for sharing your grandpa's tool!
Tip: I've started using purple locktite because it holds great like blue, but doesn't require heat or as much force to break it loose later. :)
Honest good review. Thank you!
How about building a rolling stand with lockable wheels. That way you can move it and build drawers that hold all the drill accessories.
What is up with the PNG of the Starbucks cup? XD
Could it be the quality of the coffee: Poor - Not - Good.
Thank you for the honest review on some of these budget items. Please do a follow up after some time so we know how they are holding up
As a 76 year old, the placement of both a vice and a drill press is that you want as much free space as possible on both sides. The reason is that one day you may need to hold in the vice or under the drill press a 10 ft piece of steel, bar, wood, etc and the more free space on each side the better. Put the grinder on the side of the bench.