Top 5 Budget Drill Presses (October 2020)
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- Top 5 Budget Drill Presses (October 2020)
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My wife just yelled "No! Go to the forest bear!" when she heard "There is a reason you want to have multiple drill presses"
Wife bought me a Wen for my birthday last year, I love her very much. My wife is pretty great too.... 😉
you had me dying man.... have u done any lowers or gunsmith work on it? I've been contemplating the wen over all the others.
@@Matt-eb5bj Hey matt did you end up finding a good drill press for your lower?
I love that you talk about all these drill presses as if they aren't all made in the same factory.
I am doing a project with extruded aluminum so the Tacklife 8 inch was a choice I wanted to consider... Thanks now my choice is clear. I appreciate your reviews. Really helpful!
I wanted to say thanks for mentioning the quill adjustment on the HF model. I've had one of these for a few months, and I quit using it because of the play in the quill. I hadn't really looked into the adjustment since I have a larger floor model that I also use. I'll take a look at the adjustment mechanism so I can get some use out of this thing.
Love my little 8 inch 1/3 hp Craftsman. Very similar to the others. The table was cast not stamped/forged which sold me.
1:48 I have this and it was a great deal with a 25% off coupon when that was an option... run-out was surprisingly accurate on mine (2:59 Pay attention to Bears advice and take your time with assembly and checking tolerances). Maybe a pulley modification in the future for lower RPM.
Just a heads up. I’m in Gunsmithing school and I know a lot of your viewers, including yourself, are fans of tools that go “bang”
If you’re shopping for a drill press to build a 80% lower, these drills don’t have enough travel length. You need at least 3” of travel to make room for the lower and jig, and to then drill deep enough holes in the lower. Just wanted to make my fellow gu- Er I mean tool fans aware that are doing research for a drill press for their...project 😬🇺🇸
I was wondering about this, I wonder if you could lower the drill plate to allow for that. Currently using a hand drill for starting hole and it's a royal pain and depending on jig hard to keep straight.
Agreed. I know a couple of folks that have found this out after getting it home and had to return it.
I actually went with milling machine from Grizzly. 0704 model. Much better to do lowers with than a drill press.
A good Grizz or Jet mill can be found on Craig's list for a good price.
Wen drill press is cheaper on walmart.com
I was given a cheap drill press, it’s crap, I looked at all the cheap drill presses available, they’re all crap ! apart from being badly made, quill travel is minimal, if quill travel is limited you need a wind up/down table, not on cheap drills you don’t !
U saved my ASS. I’ve done 1 80% on a large 20” industrial drill press (family member’s house.... welder) been looking at these to make a few more. Love throwing in lake after completing!!!
The HF CM 8" table top goes down to 750 RPM, my 12" floor standing DP (also from China, but bought from HOW when they were going CH11/7) goes down to about 200 RPM. I've only used it that slow to use a large flywheel cutter set to 3.5" dia! The HF CM 8" was fine with a 5/8" bit (turned down shank to 1/2"), and that was into aluminum. Granted the motor was near it's max grunt factor doing this, but it worked. I love this machines built in work light, I replaced the bulb with a screw in LED lamp that gives double the light output. Wish the table was R&P adjustable, but I can live with the clamp lock. ANY small drill press beats a hand drill for accuracy!
Good info as usual. Thanks.
Hey Bear , I have an older model Rockwell bench top. Great little drill press. I really like it.
Thanks for the info on the slow speeds. I never realized the speed issue.
Good and simple advice toolbear,for the occasional user accurate but low cost is important
Drilling wood I have never had a single issue with the Harbor Freight Drill Press using my Forstner bits. I use a variety of hard woods and soft. Thanks for the review
One advantage of living in a big city like Seattle, the Craigslist tools section is pretty decent and I dunno if the Skil 3320 10" drill press counts as budget @~$150-$180 new. But getting a never used one off CL for $69 is pretty damn satisfying. And I've used it lots!
Thanks for posting Tool Bear 🐻👍
I'm here for Deals of the week, Wednesday edition and I see this. I thought about that HF one but waited out a good deal on Craigslist. Ended up with a Delta 17" for a few hundred.
I remember an old (1960s maybe) Popular Mechanics article about modifying a small drill press to run slower by mounting a set of pulleys in pillow blocks on an outrigger. Unfortunately, modern import drill presses all seem to use different axle, arbor, and belt sizes.
I see the Ironton has a threaded stop. I want that because I had that on the Craftsman press in my Dad's home shop and used it to get exact depths on holes.
My Northern tool is 6 miles closer than my Harbor Freight. (The Tractor Supply is across the road.)
Your video is featured on the Fortress Compressors eMail from Harbor Freight. 👍
The HF drill press works great for me. I’m a home owner and serves it purpose.
Thnks fo explaining the drill speeds issue.
I got the Harbor Freight drill, and so far, I'm happy with it. But adjusting the table is a little fussy. I really don't need the "slower" speed that much. I didn't have any issues setting it up from the box. But I didn't know about the quill adjustment bolt on the side. I'll check it out.
good review. I used older industrial drill presses older but about the same price, last foreever. Shine on Bear. Did anyone tell you that you are better looking and smarter than that Jeff guy.
I have the HF and I am only a home DIYer. It has worked well for me but I have only done alum, mild steel and wood. Plus no room for anything bigger.
Had my HP 8 in.drill press for over 30 years I think i paid 39USD at that time ,and it still runs like new and i use it almost every day .....I just bought a Wen on order now
I have a wen drill press and I like it.
I have a Jet drill 20 years does great
I have a Ryobi bench drill press. It has the X laser center. I never use it as it constantly changes on its own from vibration etc. I would tell others not to depend on the accuracy of these. use the old Mk 1 eyeball instead.
Picked up a used 12” 12-speed with Wilton vise for $100. Oh, and it has laser system. :)
I reviewed the 10" wen drill press about a year ago. It has been great for my woodworking and even metal working. The size of bit + material really dictates the speed. Thats being said, theres always ways around that stuff. I've drill quite a bit of stainless, tool steel, and 1/2" mild steel plates on my little wen. Every shop should have at least a small drill press imo
You have the variable speed model don't you?
@@denoftools oh god no.... its simple enough to swap a belt around. Ive heard nothing but trouble out of the variable speed models
@Lord Raiden snuck in the back door
Great vid..........Everyone can use one of those small drill presses. 👍👍
Thanks for the info. How does the Ryobi stack up?
Hey Tool Bear and others, I have a 10' x 9' space to call a workshop. It's basically just portable tool storage. I think a mini drill press could fit OK. Any ideas on how to better use such a space? A door goes directly into the driveway which helps. I'm working on a shelf that goes floor to ceiling to store all my mother-in-law's SHIT that we got saddled with to free up more space. If your shop space was so limited, what would you do or how would you make the most of it?
Thanks
What do you think of Shop Fox, specifically the 13" oscillating drill press?
The drill presses look very similar, but have little things that are different: rpm's, knobs, color scheme...
Silly idea, but is it possible to put a motor speed control to slow the motor down for metal? I use the router speed control on my home made fireplace heat exchangers. Maybe this would then lower the torque of the motor so it could burn up? What do you more experience guys think?
What do you think of the Grizzly Baby Benchtop drill press
I can't find the General International 8" drill press on Tractor Supply's website. Can you help me find a little it please?
Do most people know to flip open the top to move the belt to speed up or slow down
The 8" drill press is mobile to travel to a job site or to a friend's place.
If you live in the south, shop season is anytime you don't have yard work. I cut my grass in December.
Wait so is the tractor supply one only available online?
Price in the WEN has skyrocketed. I was about to buy one and went with the Grizzly. Maybe this is the new king. @denoftools what do you think?
I have the hf one and it's alright but I have tried to change the speed on it several times but I can't seem to get the belt loose enough. I have been to menards and seen their drill presses and they seem pretty good.
Loosen the motor, use a flat screwdriver shaft to pry up/down and spin the belt/pulley by hand 👍
@@BradsWorkbench thanks!
How about a used drill press video in the same style as your used table saw video? Many of these on CL or FB in a large city.
These presses also have problems with Forster bits over about 3/4”, and hole saws. Be careful with those. If you’re going to mount this directly to a cabinet with a thin metal top, it would be better to get a 1/4” plate, and mount that to the cabinet, and the press to that.
Good to know that Amozon figures out how much you're paying per ounce.
Wow! The Wen has gond from ~$89 in 2020 to $118. That is appx one thrid more!
EXACTLY the item I am looking for... just started the video... let's see how informative...
awww, come on!
Blaming the motion of the ocean for poor quality and sloppy assembly? come one, Sir Bear!
I came to this comparison to find out which one has higher build quality, not just a reading of the feature list and looking at pictures...gotta get the PAWS ON for any sort of meaningful review. LIKE your channel, but product reviews have to be torture tests or all they do is tell me which matches my color scheme
The outside of the chuck if it's wobbly, that does not matter, the drill bit has to be true. This style chuck, matters from which hole you are tightening the chuck. Only one of the three will be true. Same goes for a lathe chuck.
Bear, sometimes used works better.
(Yes, I'm gonna beat the Shopsmith drum.)
Look for an OLD Shopsmith model 10.
10E or 10ER. I've gotten quite a few for
$100 or less. My brother has one as a
lathe, and has hung another on his shop
wall, as a dedicated vertical drill press.
Liked it so much, he gave his desktop
DP, to a friend of ours. (Who also has
a Model 10.)
Don't get the MK2 or the Mk5, 500,
or the mark 7. (Either the old one,
or the new one.)
Oh, the Shopsmith factory is STILL
using Model 10 Shopsmiths to build
the newer ones. Seems you can't drill
on the old Model 10s with a Mark
whatever, but you CAN drill on a Mark
whatever, with the Model 10.
(Shopsmith stopped production of the
Model 10, in 1953.)
steve
I've refurbed not one but two shopsmith's in my day and I will be the first to say that if there is one tool they are great at its as a drill press. But even a used SS doesn't fit the "Under $100" limit of this video. Stay tuned though.
Humans are so connected lol i just brought a drill press like 2 days ago. i got the WEN 4214 12-Inch Variable Speed Drill Press,Orange
That is a great drill. I think @Brads Workbench has one. I wanted to include it here but didn't really fit the "under $100" price range.
Are these all rebranded variations of the same drill press?
Mostly.
Request - review of bench type drill presses that would have the regular/major features.
Can you be more specific as to these "features"?
Y Pop no, I was suggesting looking at the next step up for the “budget” drill presses. But yet still be a bench top one.
The Den of Tools I guess what I am looking for is the next step up. Still a bench top, but with more speeds, more vertical spindle travel, etc. I guess I am asking, if you were to buy a bench top, which one would you buy and how does it compare with comparable ones. Like you said, these have 5 speeds, and sometimes that is limiting. Maybe some of the 12” drill presses, between the $100 and $500. I have an old Ryobi DP100, and parts are no longer available for it. It is bigger and heavier duty than the Budget ones. And replacing it, I would like to go up a level. I hesitate replacing it, because it is very heavy duty for being an inexpensive tool. This was sold when Ryobi bench top tools were made a lot better.
Y Pop thanks, I have looked into a number of them, this one has made it to my final list. I am curious as to what Red bear found to review and recommend. Thanks.
How many "speeds" does a drill press typically have to provide to get down to the ~300 rpm range?
Are there any consumer level truly variable speed drill presses or would one have to hook up a Variable Frequency Drive on a three phase motor?
They are out there.... but when looking at cheap tools, you really want them to be as simple as possible
Not sure if there is a specific answer to how many it needs but my larger HF drill, the 17", has 16 speeds and will go as low as 200 rpm. And the 10" bench top model from HF has 12 speeds and it will step down to 300 rpm.
@@denoftools that's why I opted for the HF 10 inch myself. And the price difference is really insignificant, especially if you can catch it on sale!
There's a lot of extra cost and complexity in a variable speed / cone pulley drive, and an enterprising individual could probably work around that using a cheap drill and parts from the neighbor's treadmill. There were a lot of old industrial grade drills made with optional variable speed drive, Delta - Rockwell, Powermatic, and Clausing come to mind, available with either single or three phase motors. Prices vary quite a bit, but used three-phase options can be a deal for someone handy with electrical. Be prepared for challenges if you have to service the variable speed pulleys, as parts are often unavailable, and new belts may be over $100. The drive system is always far noisier than a step pulley equivalent. Most of what I see in consumer level variable speed options for new are using a DC drive akin to the treadmill motor route, and they're a solid 10-20x more expensive than what was shown in this video.
12-speed goes sub-300. Some 16-speed go sub-200. My 12” 12-speed is 240rpm
How hard is it to change pulleys, seriously.
Well now I HAVE to buy the WEN since it's got a Halloween theme to it lol.
Edit: Seriously though, I've been eyeballin' that WEN for a while now and will probably pull the trigger on it soon.
Me too.....everyone says that it's the most sturdy of the small drill presses. I'm buying it for hobbies and personal gunsmith ....
Let Me know what I think as well because I'm ordering it tonight.
8 months have gone by so how do you like the WEN?
@@dwightl5863 Still haven't bought it. I don't really need a drill press, but I'd like to have one someday. I've got this one on a price tracker but have not seen any deals. So either I find the point where I need it, or there's a sale that will make me pick it up.
MY experience with Ironton power tools has been very negative.
I'm just hear for the bear.
I wonder if the Central Machinery is fine for sheet metal.
Sheet metal? Yeah, I would imagine anything could do that. Just use decent bits.
i am looking for a press for drilling holes in old harddrives.
i am a IT systems admin and i stock pile thousands of drives.
i used to take them to the range to put holes in them but ammo is expensive! lol
What about using a 1 ton arbor press with a pin in it to punctured rather than drilling
yeah i wouldn’t mind having a second function that i could use for other items though. drill press would get more use than punch i think
@@ed0c then I think you’ll be fine with the most basic one like from Harbor freight, just good good bits
@@MyContentCoach thanks!
company is buying so i may go with one of the nicer ones you mentioned in this video lol
@@MyContentCoach
ok quickfire you had to choose between the WEN 4208t or the General international DP2001
wen: 2.3A (276w) 740-3140rpm
GI: 2.0A (250w) 620-3100rpm
AAarrrggg I'm a pirate so rum on!!!
Im a wen warranty dealer
@@Og_paine wow.... but I understand it. I actually have a wen warranty video where I discuss my experience with a warranty issue and even though i was a complete jerk (because I was under the assumption they would try to weasel their way out) they stayed very professional and send me new jib bolts for my planer.
Aw man that harbor freight is 90$ now. What a bummer
Grizzly?
They do have one but with shipping it did not make it under $100
@@denoftools wouldn't mind seeing another video like this with drill presses between $100-$200
I have the harbor freight drill press and it is a piece of shit. It bogs down the motor when drilling 1/2" holes into a treated 2x4. Have to use a cordless hand drill to finish drill through a wooden 2x4.
Cheap Assed Machinist "Pro Tip": Wear a HF leather welding glove and grip the spindle a little to slow it down to your desired speed.
And, *YES,* I do indeed still have ALL of my fingers! 😂
My drill press safety tip. Don't tighten your belt so tight that the unit won't stall. I would rather the belt slip than the work break a bit or worse, my wrist.
What about the Grizzly? www.grizzly.com/products/Grizzly-8-Baby-Benchtop-Drill-Press/G0925 Lowest speed is 400 rpm.
Actually there seems to be conflicting info on that page. In the specifications it says “Spindle speeds: 5, from 740 - 3140 RPM”. Description says 400 - 2700.
It's a nice drill press but with shipping it's over $100. Also it essentially has the same 1/3 hp motor as the rest of these. So while it can go slower it really lacks the torque you need for harder metals.
LOL... these are not moving around on the deck of a boat... they are individually boxed up, palletized and containerized... any issues are how they were packed and unpacked..... not likely ANY movement of the individual item on the high seas.
The box isn't but that does not mean the internals of the unit are not subject to almost non ending vibration while in transit and that is what can really throw items out of alignment.
Have you ever been out on the ocean?
Harbor fake for the win.and it's the cheapest
buy american !!!!!!!!!!!!!
One American power tools would you suggest then?
can we go about something good quality but reasonably priced, not some junk that looks like something else what it is not. who needs this HF junk ?