Do you need a drill press? (Drill press basics #1)
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Do you need a drill press? For almost any kind of craft work, my answer is "yes!" Drill presses give you power, precision, accuracy, and repeatability that you will never get from a hand-held drill. - Навчання та стиль
Bonus: the "press" part of the drill press is useful as a... press. Like for insertion/removal of press-fit parts like bearings/shafts.
Lots of guitar builders and repairmen use the drill press for pressing in frets. Several companies make a holder and brass cauls that fit in the drill chuck for that operation.
Or blow.
Your question is wrong. No shop owner ask if he needs a tool, only where to find extra space to place it. And what excuse to use if he is married. :-)
Great video, thanks for sharing!
In the shop.
Wife says: but you already have one tool like this.
Me: But not in this color.
@Fretboard Burner because a marriage is a partnership and if you spend money on a tool there might not be money for something else. Its easy to sink a ton of money into tools, so sometimes you need to pick and choose.
Oh, why can I not "like" this comment a few more times???
"Wife, do you really want our children growing up in a home without a drill press?"
@Fretboard Burner Yer so alpha.
Im a blacksmith who only does occasional wood related stuff, so a somewhat different set of needs and tools, but I didnt know just how much I needed a drill press until I got one. I bought a floor model one made back in the 80s in taiwan out of a shed for $20, and did a little wire wheeling, oiling and replaced the rack on the side. Best 20 Ive ever spent tool wise, its not the greatest press but ive found myself using it super often and now that I have it I find myself taking on different projects than what I thought I could reliably do without it. I picked up and restored an antique press made specifically for blacksmiths recently and cant think of not having at least one in the shop.
This press has worked like a charm for my projects ua-cam.com/users/postUgkxajoEbapTfqWaadnqb04h6U576yxXp-FE . I didn't even secure it to my table top, mainly due to the fact that I was using a 15 lbs drill vise. It's not flimsy at all as to what others have claimed it to be. Make sure the locking nuts and levers are secured and there won't be any issues with light pressure and patience. I was able to drill through aluminum, plastic, and steel (steel took a while) with no problems at all. Yeah it took a little longer than a regular drill press, but I don't have the space OR the money for one.The instruction manual was worthless, but luckily assembling the press was intuitive. However, the manual would be good for ordering replacement parts if needed. There is a nice breakdown of the parts that are included in the kit. Before ordering, make sure it is compatible with your unit, it is clearly stated what models the press is compatible with.This was an excellent purchase for $40!!
Bought a used old school craftsman for $50. For $10 more I’ll take it
A good drill press is a dream to operate. I'm running an old drill press my grandfather used, and it's deadly-accurate. The other day, I drilled a hole through a piece of 4x4 cedar using a 1" spade bit - drilled 98% of the way through till the point poked through the other side, turned the piece over, lined the hole and the point up, finished the hole - and it just lined up perfectly and straight, no mismatch, with no blow-out (damage to the wood). It's difficult to get that kind of accuracy with a hand-held.
I've even used my drill press as a make-shift lathe when I needed to turn down a small piece of aluminum rod.
Years ago, I had to build a loft bed for myself (was living in a tiny apartment with a high ceiling and had to save space).
This meant drilling a bunch of holes in pieces of wood in my father's workshop.
But my dad is one of those "just use an electric drill" types, so he didn't have a drill press.
Luckily, I found a cheap one at a local hardware store and brought it home. Then I built the bed and assembled it in my apartment. It was about 2 meters high and rock-solid. My dad helped me with the assembly and must have been impressed with the result, because my drill press got bolted to his workbench and hasn't left his workshop since then. He's still using it regularly. :)
I wish my Dad were still alive. He could have anything he wanted from me.
God Bless to you and your Dad.
An old 11" Delta Homecraft drill press was my first mounted machine, and I don't regret it. It really opens up a lot of options for precise work, and is not just limited to drilling holes!
This was a good tutorial with a lot of good information I had never thought of. Thanks for sharing this.
Sure it comes with greater power, but does it also come with greater responsibility? Thank you, I'll let myself out.
wanted to like this but it has 69 likes so I can't :/
@@brewtalityk you did the right thing. Party on dudes!
Very informative and easy to understand. Thank you man, I'm just getting started and have really appreciated all your videos so far. You rock man.
Man I just like listening to Rex talk. Seriously. Great video.
You’re a great 👍 teacher. Excellent take on the reasons for a drill press. For me it would be making precision jigs.
Dude great video, love that you lay it out clearly in the first 30 seconds. After watching this I was absolutely convinced that I needed to convince my wife to let me order one of these!
Dude really appreciate all your videos. One of the best content creators out there, hands down.
This was a very informative video. I’ve had a drill press for a while, and hardly ever used it. Your info has inspired me to use it much more!
I think you'll find it worthwhile. Thanks!
Love the way you cater to neebees and less well off which meens people using old pine pallets and a lot of your showed lend themselves to that keep up the good work
Having a drill press is a great advantage , I never own one ,a few times, during 20 years of woodworking ,I wish I had one , however I managed to do the job without it.
Thank you for your video.
Great vid man cleared up a few things for me thanks!
Explained in an excellent way. Marvellous
I wanted to congratulate you on being able to transition into content creation. I don't have the money to contribute right now, but you deserve it. Keep up the good work.
Hey! Thanks so much. It's a big (scary) step, but also exciting. Don't worry about contributing. I love to have good viewers who watch and leave nice comments. That's more than enough.
Just got my first drill press [entry level but lots a great reviews]. Thanks for taking the frighteners outta the speed settings. I know, obviously that the bigger the bit or the denser the substrate means slower speeds, but you've just in a couple of seconds wiped out the "OMG what if I get it wrong" thing that newbies suffer. I'm looking forward to getting lots of advantages like forstner bits and plug cutters and hole cutters etc. Even the wire brush thing - within reason.
I almost never change the speed on mine and it's fine.
There are two types of shops:
One type has a drill press. The other is still going to get one.
I have a 0.2HP, 3 speed, 45yr old table model and cannot imagine not having it. It's all I need but my mouth waters at the thought of a 0.5HP, 16 speed with lazer sights
I have a mill and i can't imagine not having it
@@bolorenz4780 Ya that is what I opted for. Love it, but wish I had a little bit bigger one.
3rd kind: the shop that bought the cheap one and bitterly regrets it but can't afford another. (Not me.) (Here's hoping...)
bertkutoob you can buy a lazer for a pillar drill for about £30 in UK. ! Just about to fit mine so not sure if any good or not yet 🤔
@@jdavis460
Thanks for the heads-up on retrofitting a laser. Never thought of that 😖. Could you post a link or make and model? I'd be really grateful.
Weird that both you and I fell into the trap of spelling laSer incorrectly ...
[l(ight) a(mplification by) s(timulated) e(mission of) r(adiation).]
American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fifth Edition
Thank you for your painstaking work more grease to your elbow and more wisdom always. I have gained a lot from your video. Thank you for your lecture.
I am in the process of making my own drill press lathe hybrid, part of the design was based on your lathe design I just assembled the main frame today and will hopefully be able to record a short video on the project tomorrow.
You are the best salesman I ever meet in my life! You absolutely convinced me to get one.
Well, if only I were getting a cut! Still, glad you're getting one. You won't regret it.
Your very knowledgeable about the things you discuss in your videos, great videos!
I'm glad you think so!
I've been using an 80€ brushless drill for 2 years now. The torque on any speed is savage. The thing shears regular hex inserts off if you're not careful.
I knew I needed one, I just didn't know why. Great video!
Great review. Thank you.
Thank you Rex
Great video , very informative and changed my views and priorities
Here's a tip for cutting metal with a HSS drill bit because the sfm is different for different metals. In general we use a certain percent of 382. That never changes. The tougher the metal the lower the percentage. For example, when cutting carbon steel we use 60% of 382. 60% of 382 is 229. So let's drill a 3/8 inch hole in plate steel, this is how we find our speed.. 3/8 converted to a fraction is .375, so that give us: 229 divided by .375 which equals 610. 610 is our speed. For a 1/4 inch hole we get: 229 divided by .250 which equals 916. That's our speed for a 1/4" drill. See what I'm doing here? Find the closest speed in your drill press speed chart that's equal or slightly slower to the required speed. Never run a faster speed then the speed value you find from the math. For aluminum you can use flat out 382 to divide the drill bit by. Stainless Steel requires about 50% to 40% slower. So 50% of 382 is 191. Use 191 to divide the drill dia. by when cutting SS. I hope I didn't over complicate things but you'll save on drill bits instead of burning them up.
Wow! This is great tip. I'll include this in a future video!
I was classified Mill and Drill by the IAM. So drilling metal is a topic I am somewhat familiar with. I use a different formula for calculating tool speed. The one that looks like this SFPM=(PI*DIA*RPM)/12 A little cutting lube doesn't hurt when you're cutting most metals either. Stainless Steel requires machinery capable of delivering enough torque to maintain a decent feed into it. Otherwise you're going to run into work hardening issues. Suffice to say machining metals is a complicated topic. Whole books have been written about it. There are guidelines but in the end they all say experience is the best teacher. This is due to the difference between ideal and practical setups. Every machine is going to have its own resonance, etc. So hard and fast rules cannot be made.
This is not a hard and fast rule, this is a starting point and a simple explanation for people who are not familiar with cutting metal. Yes, there are many, many factors, but if you never cut any metal this provides a ballpark figure. As a machinist for 35 years (so far) I could discourse and/or pontificate for hours but that doesn't help anybody. A lil' general knowledge never hurts.
Everyone has to start somewhere. I am glad you clarified that it is just a starting point.
Where did the 60% come from to multiply by 382? Is that exclusively for carbon steel? Do you have other figures for other metals?
"Futz around" LOL !! I thought my Prussian-born father was the only one who knew/used that term. Great video Rex. I'm still using my grandfather's 1939 Craftsman drill-press, it is definitely the tool I use the most. I also have his 1938 jointer and 1935 table saw; both still work and I use them all the time.
Great video. Thanks
Thanks for the info. I’ll be getting one soon.
Particularly smart and useful tip at 7:40! Thank you!
Yeah, that one's my favorite, too. Thanks for watching!
Excellent. Thank you. I had some idea but no idea about some of these benefits so I kept passing on Drill presses at great prices just thinking "can I really get much out of it " or " I can just drill by hand because I don't do that many holes ". Now I see that I'll try other bigger items I'd I can repeat goood repeatable drilling.
Well done sir. Thank you!!!
Thanks for the video! This was very helpful for me being a beginner and starting to collect tools.
After my fathers passing I was able to inherit some of his shop tools. Being my shop is limited by my garages size, I had to be choosey about which pieces I deemed the most important additions. I passed over a jointer, a lathe, a shaper in favor of a drill press and a bandsaw. Two tools I know I will use constantly. A drill press can do more than drill a hole. It can be set up with sanding drums, it can even do some overhead milling operations. Consistent repeatable depth holes is biggest virtue.
Thanks Rex, I was considering which power tool I should buy next. I was considering a router but I believe the press drill will be more handy
Great vid. Been waffling on a drill press for a while
I lucked out in that a company I worked for had a large Rockwell (pre Delta) floor model drill press with a 5/8" Jacobs chuck. I had just put new bearings in it when they declared it surplus and I was able to buy it for $50. I have been offered many floor model presses for under $100 over the years. A very affordable mandatory piece of equipment.
I love machines that do things precisely. Drill Press IS the first power tool I bought.
Great video and you've got a new subscriber. Personally, while I find my drill press fairly indispensable, it definitely wouldn't be the first power tool I'd buy. I think it would barely make the top five. There are almost no drilling jobs I have that can't be done with my cordless drill, albeit a little less efficiently. I cut a lot of plywood down to size and don't have the strength or space to do that on my table saw, so I can't live without my circular saw. Nothing else can rip wood other than my table saw. And while I *could* use the table saw for miter cuts, the miter saw does a much faster and more accurate job. And nothing else can do what my router does. But after that, I do love my drill press. So much so that I'm throwing it away and buying a new one.
Hey, that was a terrific tip about creating a quick alignment jig for use with a cordless drill. Why didn't you tell me this last week when I was trying to drill holes through wall studs???
Aside from a cordless drill, I would want a circular saw well before a drill press. That said, a drill press would be absolutely indispensable for my dream project.
I have eight drill presses in various sizes. Six are vintage made in USA, three of those are sensitive drills, two are Taiwan units used for light milling. I like drill presses!
A real DP guy would have a Delta compound radial DP. Go to OWWM web site to see.
Ive never seen any of you're videos before. But I have the exact same drill press that is in you're thumbnail. A 1948 Atlas that I completely restored a few years ago.
Great video. When I purchased my first drill press it made a huge difference in not just quality but also in efficiency.
Hellsing2161 love atlas machines. My dad has an atlas lathe that I really want.
Rex Krueger that's awesome! Atlas made some great tools back in the day. I used to be an aviation machinist in the Marine Corps. I'm a metal worker by trade. But lately I've really been getting into wood working/knife making. It's also a fair bit cheaper to whittle around on wood than it is to purchase metal stock.
I hear that! I'm also a blacksmith and metal stock sure is pricey!
Thank you for this video. Awesome info.
One of the first things I got was a 10 inch Miter saw, as I already had an older 10 inch table saw that belonged to my dad, I got a Rigid Table saw last summer!
Excellent video! 👍
I miss the gear head drill press we had at work. Made drilling a breeze. And you could change the speed in about 8 seconds.
Yeh our college ones had a gearbox similar to a lathe (with 2 3 position levers for 9 speeds)
Unfortunately not possible to have one at home as they only come in 3 phase and I only have single phase power
I've regretted selling my cast iron drill press when I moved countries.
You just tipped me into actively looking for a replacement !
I total agree with you, the drill press is very versatile tool. Actually, it helps me to restore hand plane with stell brush. We can make tons of thîng with it. 👍🏻😁
Man, wait until part 4. I'm totally going to cover all of that!
i have to say, the drill press was one of the last things i bought for my workshop. a cheap 2nd hand table saw that i made a few sliding jigs for was the first. it didnt even have T tracks so i had to build a table for it and router some t tracks what i bought from ebay so i could use the jigs. for speeding up jobs there isnt nothing better than been able to cut wood fast. not all jobs will you need a drill press but all jobs youll need to cut wood.
Thanks! This is super useful.
It’s your explanations that people love. Thanks in advance for all of the new content in advance
My pleasure!
Thnx for the drill hole jig idea!
The cut where you're spinning that circle cutter is the best.
I like that one, too.
Some more expensive handheld drills do have a gearbox. And capable of twisting your wrist if you don’t watch it. That’s why those come with handels.
Thanks for this. I’ve been agonising over whether I should get a drill press and now it’s decided. Now I can focus on agonising about which drill press and what spec I should get.
Great video and very useful
Muy buena explicación!!!! muy detallada!!!
Great video some excellent tips there buddy 👍
Very good information and well explained.
Thankyou Rex, for your presentation . . . Chris . . . . Norwich, England
I begged for one for my birthday when I was 10 or 11. Neither of my parents were mechanically inclined, but they took me to the store one day and got me a used Grizzly bench top unit. It was almost as tall as me! I still have it 20 years later, use it on every project.
Second view for me and very helpful to learn about the drill press I just purchased. It was fun to go back to that basement shop too.
I near destroyed my so called healed wrist while free hand drilling. Bit stuck and drill near twisted off my wrist. So i went out and found a good price on a near new press. Now for anything metal, it goes on the press. Wood in most cases i can freehand depending on what is needed. So yes, first get a drill press and then build your shop around it.
I really gotta say... this, and the video on bit braces, are among my favourites as far as being so chock-full of that special kind of information and pertinent points which, while excruciatingly important, we might at anytime forget (if previously learned)... but your delivery is such that it **really sticks** - THAT is valuable, and muchly appreciated - and thank you so much! :)
I got a question though... what are your thoughts on "drill press tables"... y'know what I mean? I'm sure you've seen the videos out there - some blah, others fairly cool. Some seem to focus on incorporating little drawers for drill bits and such - nice, but not particularly necessary. But others add features and functions to the business surface of the drill press, allowing for better clamping of work, especially in repetitive production pieces, and other things. Might you be considering any vid's on the making of such like anytime soon?
Never thought a drill press is such an important tool. Thank for your explanation.
Good content…thanks for sharing!
thank you Rex
My only slight gripe is loose use of terms like power and force. The power of the drill press is pretty fixed as the motro spins at a pretty fixed speed. What you get with the belts is variation in speed and torque. Speed down, torque up. You are right that battery drills do just reduce power to the motor to lower the speed.
Table saw first. Then the drill press.Never tried to use my drill press to drill pilot holes when mounting a bi-fold door.
Big price spread, though.
🤔 my 1st power tool in my workshop was my table saw.the next one i really need and have to buy asap is a disc or a belt sander.I would never again spend over 6 hours with removing 1-2mm at 3 drawers by hand and only fine sandpaper.and no - i had at that time nothing else.the drill press is nice to have and maybe on the 3rd or 4th place..because i only have 2 hands, good corner clamps for assembly are indispensable for me.
I have the hand tools, the table saw, the router, heck even a hand plane. Yet I don't own a drill press. After watching your video, I think that the drill press will be the next tool that I buy. Thank you for the video! :)
REX HAS EXCELLENT VIDEOS!!!
Great video a new drill press owner.
Refresher for me. I bought a Craftsman drill press, and I live in an apartment. I have never had to change the speed from the factory setting. Even if you're OK getting by with a hand drill, always get into the habit of making a jig. I needed to drill plate steel for a sun room door and it made the difference between slashing my hand and not...
Jigs are pure gold for drilling!
I finally gave in and bought a $200 drill press about 2 years ago. Not as good as a real milling machine, but worth the price and very useful. One problem: you can adjust the angle of the table in one direction, but making it truly perpendicular to the quill in both directions is not possible, and it's very slightly off.
As far as safety is concerned, I remember a photograph that was hanging on the wall of the machine shop in college: it showed a pony tail hanging off a drill in a drill press. Nuff said.
I find it amazing that the amount of views and subscribers is so close
for big drilling jobs that might fight back against you like hole saws and spade bits, I always go to my drill press
You save my money! :) Thnks!
Having a drill press is awesome. I already had a normal drill, but it makes drilling much easier and i use it all the time. easily one of the best power tool investments/purchases i ever made.
Yes i think the same way
I think, since I was given my table saw, the single biggest tool investment I made was my big floorstanding drill press. I use that thing constantly. The one thing I don't do with it is drum-sanding, because I greatly dislike the idea of putting lateral loads on the quill.
You crushed my dreams. I thought I could do without a drill press
You can!...But you'll never be happy. Ever.
Thanjs for video very informative for beginners like me
I have mine set up at the middle speed, the only time I really change it is when I’m using forstner bits. I start my mortises on mine and tidy them up with a chisel and I always cut my plugs and dowels out on the drill press.
I'm the exact same way.
My drill press is dual purpose. It has a 3/4 hp motor and it is also an oscillating sander. I searched for several months to find it. I saved $150.00 over buying a new one. I also have a portable drill press that has a Milwaukee 1/2" Hole Shooter mounted in it. Just like my newly rebuilt but old Craftsman table saw that cost me $50.00. Next on my agenda is a high quality Radial Arm Saw. I will look until one becomes available. I remember the late 1950's when my Dad bought a real DeWalt radial arm saw. I used it more than he did and I was only 10 years old. He also had a Shop Smith. His wood working skills were really impressive for being a Physician.
It's great that you'll be going full time, I can't wait to see more Rex Kruger in my feed! One thing, can you do more Cheap tool videos? I really enjoyed the last two. I recently purchased some (rather sketchy...) router bits and the square from AliExpress after I saw it in the video!
I absolutely have more cheap tool vids in the works. I'll have another one up this week. Then I'll have a bunch more when the slow-ass alibaba shipping finally delivers all the other stuff I've ordered.
Rex Krueger yeah, the shipping is rediculously slow, but it's free, so I can't complain!
Straight answer?
It's handy and well worth it. But it's not 100% necessary.
I understand why you set a high resolution for one. Its handy and you mention a lot of logical reasons for it.
But many of us may not really need one. BUT if you have the room and the funds to get one. Go for it, it's very useful. I'm just a woodturner and I am investing in a drillpress.
I have an old, manual, "egg beater" drill. It was my dads. I have used it for decades. It is cordless yet never needs charging. It provide excellent control and avoids those run away moments. It never burns the wood. Indeed, when sterile it is often the preferred tool for surgical procedures. It gets into tight spots that electric drills are often to bulky to work. It will never break or wear out. It's only drawback is that it requires that the drill bits are well maintained and kept clean and sharp. But then, drill bits should always be kept clean and sharp. It is, by far, one of my most proudest possessions.
Good points and well demonstrated!
The drill press would be my second machine. My first machine would be a bandsaw.
A totally reasonable choice! Thanks for watching!
One second into this video.... Yes ! I need a drill press and I have one. I would be lost without one.
My first stationary power tool was my bandsaw. And personally, I wouldn’t do it any other way. Having the ability to actually make cuts is more important that accurate holes. My second stationary tool was a drill press though. It really opened up a new world of possibilities especially with a drum sander attachment.
Seems totally reasonable, although many people make good cuts with hand-saws and they are a good bit safer.
Agree on Bandsaw. Its a very versatile tool.
Interesting video - thanks. A couple of small things:
Re the bit of tape round the drill bit: if you leave a little "flag" of tape sticking out you can twist it to make a one-bladed fan that blows away the dust.
Secondly, I've looked at drill presses in several DIY supermarkets but I've never been impressed by the quality. Worst I saw had an off-centre chuck. They're also quite pricey items that push people to buy second-hand, too. Maybe you could do a video on points to look at when buying one?
Nice tape trick :)
Definitely a good idea...
I can honestly say, "BEWARE THE CHEAP DRILL PRESS!"
Our very first ever, was a "hobby press" from Harbor Freight... It ran about $20 (US)... and for the first few jobs (more about precision and repeatability that power or material)... it worked great.
Then I had some steel to drill, building reinforcement under-pinning for a work table. AND with cutting fluid in hand, I proceeded to start the first few holes... only the entire upper housing slipped free of the stand... pressed out of the tubing upright instead of shoving the bit down into the work!!!
It's truly disturbing to have a powerful machine rend itself free of the supports while twisting the clamps and work material from the platform and twirling it wildly as it dances all over the table and then crashes into the floor!!!
...obviously I did the only sensible thing. I leaped away and ran for my life shouting extremely violent and obscene things about the make of the press.
...at least it didn't get anyone injured... but I felt my plaque start moving again. ;o)
I agree with the usefulness of a drill press. If you don't have one, you don't know what you are missing.
While the bearings of a drill press maybe aren’t perfect for the application I like to use the drill press as an over arm router, where I slide the work piece under the bit up against a fence using a small size router bit for creating dados and slots
For the algorithm!
My boss just given a drill press, so this is great information. Thanks Rex!