Yeah, some pokemon would be actually decent, like Clefable in doubles or Arcanine in singles. Just imagine dyanamax toxapex with some partner giving him poisoned targets to destroy with merciless
@@Dz73zxxx no it's still good even then xD dusclops is super bulky even without eviolite and because it is mostly a support mon with small chip damage from things like night shade, it eventually dieing isn't that big of a deal so long as it had a few turns of being disruptive
I swear it's like watching somebody from a different country talk about their culture. I never thought I'd hear the day someone said big Clef was useless
Doubles has some cool strategies that only work in doubles, singles is a prediction game to get ahead of your opponent and stay ahead. I prefer doubles even though I keep playing singles, I don't know why.
Cc would be good on banded but not really on setup sweep because it can easily get revenge killed by faster mons like zeraura Cc. Grassy glide would just be busted
I fell in love with comfey after seeing it wreak havoc in the WBE and I pretty much can't handle playing OU (fairly casually) without using it. It's so good vs all the Dark, Fighting and Dragon types in the tier.
CM comfey's absolutely a threat with triage. Very good cleaner if you have ways to remove or weaken what it can't beat on its own. Stored Power can help against Pex so it's not walled.
@@extonjonas6820 Dragapult most certainly isn't it never wants to run a choice item nor does it set up and can very support oriented in VGC. Venusaur kinda is, but weather ball is not seen as much and neither it growth it's kinda of just Gigantamax nuke with Vinelash. Essentially Rillaboom could be the same but it can't really fit SD on a set in VGC and Driftblim is the better unburden user than lucha. AV is very common in both, but CB is most common in VGC not sure what is more common in singles. Fake Out is more useless in Singles than doubles so I haven't come across a ton of it on the SD ladder but I am not a high ladder singles player I typically sit around 1400-1600
I wish tar shot would leave a trail on the ground too. Sort of like an entry hazard but only for the next thing that switches in. That way you could tar shot a pokemon and if it misses or the pokemon switches out it's still fun tech to play around with :)
28:39 I heard that Pokeaim 😂. Also copycat trick room with prankster Riolu can be accidentally stopped by a priority move(with higher priority) from the enemy since Riolu will copycat the enemy’s priority move which wastes a turn of dynamax since you’re max guarding to set it up. It’s a really shaky strategy and the opponent never sees it coming which makes it feel even worse if they accidentally stop it from happening.
So next how about this for items. For example i never thought of heavy duty boots as anything good even so i knew that hazards are a thing in singles and there are probably way more items that are the same way.
I've said it since it came out, whimsicott is the best pokemon in the game. Being fast and getting priority, having endeavor with focus sash, and +1 tailwind, and taunt, even with the dark buff with prankster, its still the best pokemon there is.
Hi joey I don't know if you read this or not but here something heat for you I have seen you playing different singles metagames earlier so I thought of telling you this in almost any ability try to use a specs adaptability jolteon it's broken as hell my man not forcing for a video cuz I know you are quite busy but still just wanted say this as I love your content and also for the algorithm:)
It's pretty simple. If you have a pokemon that runs trick room it turns into Max Guard during dynamax. So if you dynamax and max guard (using your trick room slot) and then use copycat. Copycat turns into trick room because that's how they coded it (probably because a pokemon that isn't dynamaxed can't use Max moves).
@@ChuchoDoge dark fighting urshifu using its crit move against Krookodile will max its atk with anger point and eject button urshifu into friend guard clefairy and follow me / protect while wreaking havoc with +6 krook.
omg u guys should give each other teams that r good for singles n doubles n then try and use them in the opposite
this is a great idea
I love this idea!
omg pls
Yeah, some pokemon would be actually decent, like Clefable in doubles or Arcanine in singles. Just imagine dyanamax toxapex with some partner giving him poisoned targets to destroy with merciless
I would like to see this
🎶 Real Youtubists 🎶
🎶 Collab with Others 🎶
🎶 Wolfey collabist 🎶
🎶 Said dusclops is good 🎶
Until get knocked off
@@Dz73zxxx But knock off isn't on as many mons in vgc.
BTW love both their channels
@@Dz73zxxx no it's still good even then xD dusclops is super bulky even without eviolite and because it is mostly a support mon with small chip damage from things like night shade, it eventually dieing isn't that big of a deal so long as it had a few turns of being disruptive
Wooper Squirtle Rillaboom sneaks his little monky head in (and then gets banned)
Two youtubists with epic intros have finally come together
@@hitesh9431 Fixed it
They been coming together for a while now
at least one of them does..... of course I'm talking about wolfey
Introists
This isn't their first video brother
I swear it's like watching somebody from a different country talk about their culture. I never thought I'd hear the day someone said big Clef was useless
Wait til you hear his thoughts on Toxapex
@@freeflyonhigh LOL
I heard him call gliscor bad and that pokemon almost broke me when I was trying to learn how to play
"YOU HAVE UNO" -wolfey
"I DONT HAVE UNO" -joey
Everyone has uno dipshit!
I immediately thought of that too
Reverse card, open!
Don't let this video distract you from the fact that Amoongus has a greater attack stat than Talonflame.
Xyro and that purugly is faster than Garchomp, latios, or gengar (all base form)
Panda Gaming and that Gastly has higher special attack than Dragalge, Noivern, and Kingdra
@@ChrispyWings it does??
PapiManMilk yep, Gastly is base 100 and all of those dragons are below 100
@@ChrispyWings why the fuck is gastly base 100 lmao
Weird hearing wolfey without seeing him. I am hella spooked
Wolfe has gotten scarily good at making up these intros on the fly
real youtubists
have good intros
wolfey is
the intro expert
When are we going to get a video on Pokémon that are bad in singles but great in rotation battles, which is the only format people should play in.
Don’t sleep on the new up and coming tier, pokemon go battles
Singles > doubles
@@Nathan-ur2xv doubles>singles for me
@@shatteredsentient5321 doubles is better for me because so many moves/abilities only work in doubles and cant even be activated in singles
Doubles has some cool strategies that only work in doubles, singles is a prediction game to get ahead of your opponent and stay ahead. I prefer doubles even though I keep playing singles, I don't know why.
I love how aggressive Joey got over the “flusher” lol
As someone who made the switch from singles to doubles when gen 8 came out, I understand both reactions lol
i switched to doubles when gen 8 came out tooooo
I play both singles and doubles on showdown to this day XD
Joey : Man Kartana is going to come back with Close Combat and Grassy Glide.
Me: *nervous sweating*
*Kartana doesn't get those moves*
Relief
Cc would be good on banded but not really on setup sweep because it can easily get revenge killed by faster mons like zeraura Cc. Grassy glide would just be busted
@@woomynation and GG would make CC better, too, since you can’t get revenge killed if you kill the revenge first
Watching joey do a wolfey style intro gives me hope in mankind
0:29 When Wolfe says *WHAT* That's how I feel as a singles player when he says something that just... doesn't line up.
I fell in love with comfey after seeing it wreak havoc in the WBE and I pretty much can't handle playing OU (fairly casually) without using it. It's so good vs all the Dark, Fighting and Dragon types in the tier.
CM comfey's absolutely a threat with triage. Very good cleaner if you have ways to remove or weaken what it can't beat on its own. Stored Power can help against Pex so it's not walled.
Raichu is one of my favourites even tho its not that cool for others, happy it gets a little spotlight.
It's funny that I always loved Wolfey's content but wished that there was an equivalent channel for singles, really glad that I found this channel
You know who’s channel everyone came from based on if you use wideo or video
Hey Joey how about a third episode of Pokemon that are good in both but for different reasons? Idk how many there are though
There's quite a few, Urshifu, Rillaboom, Togekiss, Dragapult, Amoongus, Torkoal, Venusaur, Primarina, and a few others
@@nichwe I feel like RIlaboom, dragapult and venusuar are definitely doing the same thing
@@extonjonas6820 Dragapult most certainly isn't it never wants to run a choice item nor does it set up and can very support oriented in VGC. Venusaur kinda is, but weather ball is not seen as much and neither it growth it's kinda of just Gigantamax nuke with Vinelash. Essentially Rillaboom could be the same but it can't really fit SD on a set in VGC and Driftblim is the better unburden user than lucha. AV is very common in both, but CB is most common in VGC not sure what is more common in singles. Fake Out is more useless in Singles than doubles so I haven't come across a ton of it on the SD ladder but I am not a high ladder singles player I typically sit around 1400-1600
Jirachi
@@oodogla Jirachi isn't allowed in VGC as it's a mythical, so Wolfe wouldn't know.
Let's talk about Arcanine
Proceeds to talk about mostly incineroar
Poor Arcanine :(
This type of video is super interesting, I enjoyed it a lot! It would be cool to have more doubles and singles comparisons, talks etc
so there i was, invading joey pokeaim's wideo.
Everyone gangster until Riolu shows up.
Intro starts at 1:00
Tfw you need timestamps for intros
@@GD-ep5fl ur not a wolfy fan
Noor Hu if you are, you know it’s Wolfey not Wolfy
@@noorhu2555 aren't wolfey's intros always at the start tho?
Two of the best YouTubists working together on best good wideo with double intro. Easy s tier intro on the intro tier list
You 2 should do a series where you coach the other in your speciallity. Would be so intresting to see!
Now I want GOOD Pokemon that are actually REALLY GOOD, with pokemon that are good both in vgc and ou but for different reasons
Incineroar and any pseudo legendary probably.
Love it when these two work together. So many good vibes man
You and Wolfe are my favorite Poketubers and you should do this more often, pls :D
the "flusher" is called a lever.
I really hope comfey is on both lists. Triage is just broken wherever it is
Imagine if they gave it mystical fire tho
I wish tar shot would leave a trail on the ground too. Sort of like an entry hazard but only for the next thing that switches in.
That way you could tar shot a pokemon and if it misses or the pokemon switches out it's still fun tech to play around with :)
I liked for the paint - photosop conversation,along with Wolfe's opening 😂
One of my oldskool favourites has always been Entei.
And then, SD Gastrodon on the defensive side.
you two are actually my favorite competitive youtubers out there!
Lets Go Pikachu still in my bottom few Pokemon games but damn I love how they gave Arcanine Teleport. So cool, so... legenDARY!
40:09 I think you guys are thinking about that game where a double raichu (one regular one alolan) speed tie turn one decided the game.
MBL against CyberBaz, that was an amazing league
I'm pretty sure the flusher is called the Eject Button
You guys are amazing man I’m glad to see this!
Awesome video, guys. I would love to see a similar video but talking about abilities or moves.
The beginning part of the video was way too similar to “you have uno”, and I don’t think that was intentional 💀
28:39 I heard that Pokeaim 😂. Also copycat trick room with prankster Riolu can be accidentally stopped by a priority move(with higher priority) from the enemy since Riolu will copycat the enemy’s priority move which wastes a turn of dynamax since you’re max guarding to set it up. It’s a really shaky strategy and the opponent never sees it coming which makes it feel even worse if they accidentally stop it from happening.
Yeah, I ran RioluHat for a while but I got fed up of guessing games. Liepard with fake out is much more reliable for that strat
Always adore these types of videos, help me understand competitive better amd come up my own teams and strategies
Friend guard clef has been my go to support Mon on so many teams.
48:22 Glimmora: "Allow me to introduce myself" (hasn't caused hdb usage yet but yeah)
So it sounds like singles players who like HO with trick room, veil, weather etc would have an easier time transferring to vgc than most.
Really interesting videos!!(both yours and wolfeys) similar videos would be really enjoyable :)
If you combine Wolfey and Joey you get a pokegenius and the perfect man.
Bryce L godly beard + strong jaw POG
We need these two goats back on a vid ASAP
Wow both yalls channels blossoming beautifully 🌺 congrats
thumbnail made me think it was a blunder video for a second
That intro was fireeeee
Back in my day, I usually a assault vest Arcanine set, caught soany ppl of guard
‘Sing if you don’t want anybody to have fun, or if you really like flipping coins’
insta like for the intro know you gotto do it every time
very good video. i am not learning anything new as i know these things but it is still entertaining to watch and i would even say relaxing !
So next how about this for items. For example i never thought of heavy duty boots as anything good even so i knew that hazards are a thing in singles and there are probably way more items that are the same way.
Wolfie seems like the type of guy that has paintings of himself in every room in his house.
What gives you that impression?
I'm happy you clarified with the tiers, I was about to say "wait but, Arcanine is very good?"
*sees Dusclops immediately*
Me, who’s favorite Pokémon line is the Duskull line: :)
Every collab Need that intro
lolol you have similar voice to Toph from the melee scene xD
It'd be neat to see a "useful in draft" list
That's how he became so popular
Congrats on 250k subs joey!
I'd love to see you guys grind the OU ladder together e.g.!
I've said it since it came out, whimsicott is the best pokemon in the game. Being fast and getting priority, having endeavor with focus sash, and +1 tailwind, and taunt, even with the dark buff with prankster, its still the best pokemon there is.
Whimsicott versus Eternatus?
No don't lose the powerful beard Wolfey!
My two favorite youtubists Pog
The collab we’ve always needed
Make a podcast going over vgc. That would be awesome
how to stop whims from cotting up tail wind, wimsicot prankster taunt
With Togekiss and Indeedee gone Rage Powder Amoongus is going to become one of the most played mons in doubles.
Hi joey
I don't know if you read this or not but here something heat for you
I have seen you playing different singles metagames earlier so I thought of telling you this in almost any ability try to use a specs adaptability jolteon it's broken as hell my man not forcing for a video cuz I know you are quite busy but still just wanted say this as I love your content and also for the algorithm:)
Wolfey + Aim triple battles when lmao
I remember sweeping a team in Singles with a Indeedee. Funniest shit ever.
Oh no. Did you say grassy glide kartana? All the sudden I'm okay with dexit.
“Kartanas gonna be a problem” …. Kartana was not a problem *in my morgan freeman voice*
Still don't understand the Riolu bit but sounded like a cheeky strat however it works.
It's pretty simple. If you have a pokemon that runs trick room it turns into Max Guard during dynamax. So if you dynamax and max guard (using your trick room slot) and then use copycat. Copycat turns into trick room because that's how they coded it (probably because a pokemon that isn't dynamaxed can't use Max moves).
@@VerbalLearning oh that makes sense
Favorite poketubers hands down
the into deserves a like on its own lol
I mean Arc was never a bad Pokémon compared to the hundreds of mons we have already. He’s like a mid tier
Imagine if Riolu still had follow me
man, i miss gator, hope he's doin alright these days
GMAX Coalossal was the MVP of the Society! But he couldn't get the trophy 😏🔥🏆
26:20 g max Renaissance is a great name
T wave miltank, kingler, avalugg, seismitoad, and Gallade are good pls use
Joey says his name is too long but it has the same amount of letters as wolfeys name XD
me: *sees title*
wait- thats illegal
AHR-KUH-NEE-NAY. Not that hard to say.
Krookodile and Urshifu is an underrated combo in vgc
Can you elaborate?
@@ChuchoDoge dark fighting urshifu using its crit move against Krookodile will max its atk with anger point and eject button urshifu into friend guard clefairy and follow me / protect while wreaking havoc with +6 krook.
Pokeaim should battle wolfey at monotype
Arcanine was always pretty good
How many support pokemon should you have in your team?🤔
Noooooo! Keep the beard!
R.I.P. Flygon
Joey in the thumbnail looking hot as hell
My favorite poketubers together!!!! Yay
I liked just for the intro
Ib4 GOOD Pokémon that are BAD ft.Weedle Twineedle
Arcanine has incredible stats though