As a huge Neptune fan, especially during my youth. This beef hurts and is super unfortunate. I hope the gentlemen can work things out and resolve this. Would hate to see a long-running friendship and partnership end like this.
@@Derek4k you’re entitled to your opinion, but you’re factually wrong. Hit for hit Neptunes has double the hits timberland has 🤷🏽♂️ Facts not feelings
You're so fucking rich and still trying to cut out a partner who built everything with you, that is WILD.... If that's what is happening. That is just greed.
What Ish doesn't understand is that even the quality of their musical productions has been impacted by their separation. As a huge TheNeptunes/N*E*R*D fan, you can definitely hear the difference when Pharrell is producing alone or with Chad. Pharrell is more into hiphop/funk when Chad is more electro/rock/pop. And the last joints recently produced by Pharrell alone lack a lil bit of creativity for me (Pusha T last album for example). This Chad's "alien sound synth" is missing sometimes...
I noticed that Pharrell/Neptune’s beats definitively started to sound different around the early 2010s. They were once so innovative, but it kinda went stale
@@jonjackson2177 I blame the split plus them going from analogue gear to DAWs. Used to sound warm and of course innovative. Now whether it's them rarely collaborating together or just P, it sounds good, but stale/thin.
@@ronniesnakehissiii9413 most of their sounds are just korg triton presets, which was a digital and primarily sample based workstation. not much different from the audio that comes out of your computer. in fact, there’s a basically perfect emulation of it available for modern DAWs with all the same sounds. it’s less the sound or quality of sound but more the creativity in selecting and combining ones that are individually unremarkable, their usage of minimalism, and their deceptively simple songwriting. all of these traits are very “out of fashion” in pop now unfortunately and have fallen by the wayside across the industry.
@@jaimerodriguez1550 sure, unavoidably so - but I can guarantee you that running a triton through a console preamp or some expensive compressor in a studio rack wasn’t the secret to their sound or success. the mixes on their tracks back then aren’t any better, or more saturated and warm than the tracks Pharell produces today. their sauce at that time period was all in the craft and their ears as musicians and producers. the limitations of hardware at the time might have contributed to them coming up with creative solutions and using sounds they might not today, but I think it’s silly to attribute their success to their signal chain. I think people romanticize artists’ tools too much, and overestimate the power and sound of “analog” workflows, when really it’s all about hard work and having taste and skill that other people don’t.
I don’t think people understand the kelis situation. The Neptunes produced her first 2 albums and wrote most or almost all of the songs. Why would she keep the royalties when they were the majority of the brains.
@@Dracula666_ In other words, Pharrell wrote "Get Along with You" and "Caught Out There" without Kelis? 🧢 He hasn't written anything like that since. I'm just not buying it.
Same song different times and eras. Tribe went through it, N.W.A went through it, EPMD, Wu, Mobb Deep, Black Sheep, etc. Hip-hop groups that started off with friendships and have been ten toes down since their youth can have a wedge drawn between them because of fame and stardom, ego, and especially money. Been listening to The Neptune's since the early 2000s when I was living in Oahu, Hawaii. Their sound was different and refreshing. A lot of their success is based on the friendship, creativity, and ideasvthey've had since they were kids...I hope Pharrell and Chad can get back to that.
This is sad to hear fr, I’m from Virginia Beach and grew up skate boarding as a black youth to the Neptunes their music meant so much to me. I really hope they figure it out!
The characterization that Pharrell tried to cut Chad out is debatable. Chad’s lawyers are saying that Pharrell’s team didn’t include him in the filings but Pharrell’s lawyers said they contacted Chad and his team several times and got no response. And anyone who has been following The Neptunes knows Chad is notoriously hard to get in contact with and rarely talks publicly or does interviews. Hopefully, this sorts itself out because they are both legends.
Like Ish said, you’ve been my close friend since high school. If it’s that hard to contact me on a quick text (which I’m sure Pharrell knows since high school), then put my name on the paperwork anyway
Lol. You said alot of nothing that makes no sense. You are acting like you know these people. How would chad be hard to get in touch with when Pharrell knows his lawyers, knows his address, and can get someone who is closer to him since they having this girl scout beef to get in touch with him. That sounds as dumb as when executives tell me that they are travelling next week so they will be out of the loop and cant correspond while travelling. Like they said, its a simple fix, Pharrell filed the paperwork and now chad lawyer is saying put his name on it. It only cost a couple of bucks to add someone name to a legal document and that would solve the issue but for some reason Pharrell would rather argue this nonsense and have his bodyguard Pusha make statements about it instead of simply adding dudes name as he should have done in the first place
Some issues under the radar between the two of them have been going on for years. It dates way back to 2006 when Pharrell dropped the In My Mind album, (which was supposed to have dropped in 2005 but wasn’t fully complete til 2006) which was his first labeled production he did all by himself. Chad went on to produce other artists’ albums by himself as well, so in all actuality, they both split back in the earlier ‘00s.
You can tell the difference in the sound Pharrell’s tracks don’t have bridges. When he was with Chad the sound sonically and bridges were epic. Pharrell is drums and music is Chad
Clearly something is amidst when best friends cant communicate with each other without lawyers. Its usually goes far beyone what we know and what we are being told.
Pharrell likely did most of the work throughout his time with Chad and Chad probably just did extra work like vocals or whatever but I always saw Pharrell as the main driver for his empire. And I wouldn't be surprised if Chad had something to do with Kelis being cheated out of money.
Facts: Both are genuis, But Pharrell changed over the years, he loves the fame , the money, and more money and more money , while CHAD is all for the Music and being a good friend.
As a dude from Hampton Roads, VA aka 7 cities, this was a bad moment. When I saw it on the local news station, I had to make sure I heard it right. A sad day for VA
I sort of hate how Pharrell got all the credit solely because he decided to become an artist aswell. Chad stayed producing. So he truly never got the credit he deserved
lolll it’s funny how Pharrell portrayed himself in his Lego biopic that’s really not a good structured documentary and should’ve been a movie with a story.
This been going on since 2006 “The Neptunes” were being credited as producers even when Pharrell was only doing the production. So for example: Pharrell produced the entire Clips “Hell Hath No Fury” album but it was still credited as “The Neptunes”
@@HoodedSpidey yeah even Chad admitted in (I believe it was the Scratch Magazine article with Timbaland on the cover I’m not sure ) where he said he didn’t do any production on the Clipse album but was thankful that P was still crediting the Neptunes
Chad worked on HHNF, Questlove told a story on being in the studio and Chad was working on Keys Open Doors. Pusha even went on the old Neptune's forum to tell fans about Chad's involvement in HHNF. In the Scratch article your speaking on, Chad said he worked on the music but he wasn't around when the songs were written hence Chad not getting writers credit
Foreign entities are buying up HipHop labels and catalogs at a rapid rate. Well, American music, period. Even Taylor Swift has been calling it out. Even some of the classic HipHop catalog is now South Korean owned (via Scooter Braun though). I can totally see why Pharrell’s team would feel the need to file something expeditiously. Esp given their label woes in the early 2000s, there may be loose ends out there that they felt it CANNOT wait for Chad to get on the same page. “Act now, apologize later.” I can also see Chad being in his bubble, difficult to get in contact with in a timely manner. But, I can also see BOTH of them being in their KanYe bag… basically so focused on being creative that they not really closely, Closely watching what the lawyer is ACTUALLY doing.. versus what he’s telling him he’s doing. AND, It Could also be that Pharrell feels like, you fell back, I’m out here pushing and defending the brand. It Could be SO MANY THINGS….. I just choose to draw no conclusions and just hope they get it worked out and pop up together soon.
They’re being bought up because musicians are cash greedy idiots obsessed with being the richest person in the room. Many will regret selling these catalogs in years to come when they realise they have zero perform to stop it from being used in things they detest.
That’s what happened with New Edition After the movie!!!! That’s why they were beefing that lead to RBRM( Bobby and BBD going on tour without Ralph and Johnny..
I really think Pusha might be on to something actually. My hypothesis: Chad (maybe convinced by his lawyers) didn’t want to trademark Neptunes, Pharrell did. Chad tweeted asking what’s the point of a trademark a while back. I want so badly for them to work it out and I hope they do.
I mean you take people's word for it as long-time friends/associates and then years later when you get screwed, people scold you that business is business. "Should've had it on paper" 😭
For some of yall to come on here saying Pharrell is just drums go back and check out them UA-cam videos of him in the studio with Timberlake. This dude is hands on with everything. From the lyrics, hooks, adlibs etc. Dude is a genius
People on the comments are trippin... the two worked together for 20 years. You expect anyone to spend that much time with someone and not argue or bicker??? We're lucky their music creation lasted that long.
Great engineer and podcast producer, but him always putting his two cents in or even flashing the camera to his face is annoying. Imagine Jamie from JRE doing that…..
@@TheDominicKellmanPodcast smart guy for sure, him talking is definitely not necessary. He just piggy backs off everyone else anyway. This show is his biggest claim to fame, and he knows that.
Keep it business, split everything half and half. There should never be no third party entity in a partnership business and endeavors. Both party management and attorney's, CFO's, CEOs, et al., involved to fix this mess and putting frivolity in the media space rather go talk business and not mess with a friendship and partnership that is benefiting everyone. If not dissolved the whole entities and nobody can used the names and any and all entities affiliates. Everyone can go do them if this messy mess is not resolved.
Imma say it because everybody dancing around the answer. We all love Chad, but Pharell does the most work. He is the face of the Neptune's and has kept them relevant. What was the last Neptune beat you heard?
Facts same thing I said why not just put his name on there. The music is missing something without Chad a Pharrell produced song is not the same as The Neptunes so Chad brought something to that sound, smh sad.
Kelis been told us that Pharrell is a very dodgy character behind the scenes....so this kind of backs up what she was saying. Chad is so low profile and has deliberately been so, so I don't think he would just be out here doing this for the sake of it.
So this came out 5 months ago, i don't know if it's still going on... But for fucks sake, why you doing this P? Chad is so humble, don't screw him over. He was always the other half, he deserves as much credit as you do. Now that i remember the beef with Kelis, i don't know if that was Pharrell alone too... Chad honestly doesn't seem like he could have that ego. Don't forget where you came from P, you were one of my idols. And still are if you keep yourself humble.
Pharrell production and songs after he left the Neptunes became wack and pop af. I’ll take stuff like “Grindin” and “Super Thug” over “Despicable Me” and “Lucky” any day
Pharrell has always been somewhat of a wave rider. His whole skateboard persona and aesthetic came from his brother. Pharrell himself was never a skater like that. Also a lot of his style was influenced by his frequent collaborator Nigo, the founder of Bape. Nigo was also helped create Pharrell’s BBC Ice Cream. I’m not saying Pharrell isn’t creative or he didn’t contribute a good deal to records. But he was definitely more of a face for the people he surrounded himself with.
There's a reality that for the past like decade+, well over 90% of any "The Neptunes" tracks is Pharrell solo producing. If it isn't NERD or Justin Timberlake, it's pretty much just Pharrell. Check the credits. "P. Williams" is on everything. "C. Hugo" shows up once in a blue moon. This suit is easily the most interest Chad has shown in anything Neptunes related in like 15 years.
There is some credence to attorneys trying to milk conflicts though because a lot of divorces could be fixed and properly settled even outside of court but attorneys love those attorney fees. So I'm not completely ruling out that an attorney in this situation could have gotten just as greedy but Pharrell is definitely wrong for not coming directly to Chad first and making it very clear and known what his intentions were if he really wanted to keep Chad in the loop.
It's not hard when it's 50/50. Both names on everything all cash in and out is split 50/50. Anyone making that more complicated is trying to scam PERIOD.
Don't get fooled by how humble Pharrell portrays himself to be, that boy greeeeedy 🤣
That's what it looks like smh
@@gxbrxxl9626 yeah Pharrell cap … I see through him more and more as the years go by
Just watched his Lego movie. This is facts
@@veezy3933 How was it? How are the absences of Chad and Kelis addressed?
@@crnkmnkyno mention of kelis but Chad is prominent in the movie
As a huge Neptune fan, especially during my youth. This beef hurts and is super unfortunate. I hope the gentlemen can work things out and resolve this. Would hate to see a long-running friendship and partnership end like this.
As a huge Neptunes fan YOU know around the time of the split(s) production-wise. You can HEAR it!
Pause @ this beef hurts
Same and same
@@NJRacer623 😂😂
Chad’s humbleness being taken for weakness.. Sad that they aren’t even able to handle this one privately
Your spelling is a *weakness*
Humility
Man this is sad to hear. The Neptunes era of production is goated. It will never be replicated again
lol bullshit, it’s been replicated and has been better production. Go touch grass
it was ok. timbaland era > neptunes era
@@Derek4k you’re entitled to your opinion, but you’re factually wrong. Hit for hit Neptunes has double the hits timberland has 🤷🏽♂️ Facts not feelings
Most things can’t be replicated that’s what makes it special
@@Derek4k🧢
You're so fucking rich and still trying to cut out a partner who built everything with you, that is WILD.... If that's what is happening. That is just greed.
If he'll do that to a friend and collabotrator of 20 years, imagine what he does to everyone else behind the scenes...
That's what it looks like and it's freaking sad to see....
Agreed their artiste Kelis been having that issue for years.
Dog eat dog world . He probably never liked him from the beginning. Now imagine how long Pharrell been using Chad !!
@@dramatyst5661They’ve been friends since high school
Hurts my heart hearing this. Been riding with these dudes since '97, '98. Had no idea. Just thought Chad wanted to stay out of the spotlight.
I’m from VA!! Neptunes is my dudes!! C’mon Pharrell!! That’s some snake stuff!!🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️
What Ish doesn't understand is that even the quality of their musical productions has been impacted by their separation. As a huge TheNeptunes/N*E*R*D fan, you can definitely hear the difference when Pharrell is producing alone or with Chad. Pharrell is more into hiphop/funk when Chad is more electro/rock/pop. And the last joints recently produced by Pharrell alone lack a lil bit of creativity for me (Pusha T last album for example). This Chad's "alien sound synth" is missing sometimes...
you were doing well until you mentioned pusha t 's last album!!. the album is great as it is..
@@47VIDSDOTCOM It was good! I really enjoyed the album but Kanye's beats carried for me. Pharrell's ones were too repetitive imo
The production on push album was amazing
And in my opinion, CHAD is really the mastermind. But, I digress
The sound is so different now
Pharrell misses Chad co-producing rn big time. He’s had hits on his own but you can’t tell me the old stuff don’t “pop” more sonically
I noticed that Pharrell/Neptune’s beats definitively started to sound different around the early 2010s. They were once so innovative, but it kinda went stale
@@jonjackson2177 I blame the split plus them going from analogue gear to DAWs. Used to sound warm and of course innovative. Now whether it's them rarely collaborating together or just P, it sounds good, but stale/thin.
@@ronniesnakehissiii9413 most of their sounds are just korg triton presets, which was a digital and primarily sample based workstation. not much different from the audio that comes out of your computer. in fact, there’s a basically perfect emulation of it available for modern DAWs with all the same sounds. it’s less the sound or quality of sound but more the creativity in selecting and combining ones that are individually unremarkable, their usage of minimalism, and their deceptively simple songwriting. all of these traits are very “out of fashion” in pop now unfortunately and have fallen by the wayside across the industry.
@@ggeessttaallttthey were running their digital synths through analog gear for sure.
@@jaimerodriguez1550 sure, unavoidably so - but I can guarantee you that running a triton through a console preamp or some expensive compressor in a studio rack wasn’t the secret to their sound or success. the mixes on their tracks back then aren’t any better, or more saturated and warm than the tracks Pharell produces today. their sauce at that time period was all in the craft and their ears as musicians and producers. the limitations of hardware at the time might have contributed to them coming up with creative solutions and using sounds they might not today, but I think it’s silly to attribute their success to their signal chain. I think people romanticize artists’ tools too much, and overestimate the power and sound of “analog” workflows, when really it’s all about hard work and having taste and skill that other people don’t.
Chad is the sound! I went into a guitar center about 20 yrs ago and Chad was in there COOKING!!
It was never the same without him
I thought Chad was just the songwriter. Learn something new everyday.
@@TheYellowBrickRoadTVswitch there roles .
@@TheYellowBrickRoadTVother way around
@@TheYellowBrickRoadTV
the story is the same for us all. WE know Chad & SEE Chad 😂… never seen pharrell in public or know cuh
It’s like time travel when you hear a Neptune beat. It’s so distinct. Can’t say producers are able to do that anymore.
Them having to go through lawyers tells you all you need to know.
Didn’t Pharrell take Kelis’s royalties for her first two albums? This is on brand for Pharrell
Pharrel also had Beyonce b4 Jay-Z (yh that part) Blow Ya Horn Now! Austin Powers.
She probably didn't generate enough income to cover her advance.
I don’t think people understand the kelis situation. The Neptunes produced her first 2 albums and wrote most or almost all of the songs. Why would she keep the royalties when they were the majority of the brains.
@@Dracula666_ In other words, Pharrell wrote "Get Along with You" and "Caught Out There" without Kelis?
🧢 He hasn't written anything like that since. I'm just not buying it.
@@crnkmnky then don’t buy it and you’re also forgetting Chad not just Pharrell.
Met Chad in the airport 20 years ago. Nice guy.
Same song different times and eras. Tribe went through it, N.W.A went through it, EPMD, Wu, Mobb Deep, Black Sheep, etc. Hip-hop groups that started off with friendships and have been ten toes down since their youth can have a wedge drawn between them because of fame and stardom, ego, and especially money. Been listening to The Neptune's since the early 2000s when I was living in Oahu, Hawaii. Their sound was different and refreshing. A lot of their success is based on the friendship, creativity, and ideasvthey've had since they were kids...I hope Pharrell and Chad can get back to that.
New music is over for for good. Let's just hope they can shake hands and split it
I always thought Pharrel was the face but Chad was the main guy behind Neptunes 😂
Spot on
Not true at all
This is sad to hear fr, I’m from Virginia Beach and grew up skate boarding as a black youth to the Neptunes their music meant so much to me. I really hope they figure it out!
The characterization that Pharrell tried to cut Chad out is debatable.
Chad’s lawyers are saying that Pharrell’s team didn’t include him in the filings but Pharrell’s lawyers said they contacted Chad and his team several times and got no response.
And anyone who has been following The Neptunes knows Chad is notoriously hard to get in contact with and rarely talks publicly or does interviews.
Hopefully, this sorts itself out because they are both legends.
Like Ish said, you’ve been my close friend since high school. If it’s that hard to contact me on a quick text (which I’m sure Pharrell knows since high school), then put my name on the paperwork anyway
@@Geeandrezzi come on this is real life. For it to get to this it's beyond one man sending a single text.
Lol. You said alot of nothing that makes no sense. You are acting like you know these people. How would chad be hard to get in touch with when Pharrell knows his lawyers, knows his address, and can get someone who is closer to him since they having this girl scout beef to get in touch with him. That sounds as dumb as when executives tell me that they are travelling next week so they will be out of the loop and cant correspond while travelling.
Like they said, its a simple fix, Pharrell filed the paperwork and now chad lawyer is saying put his name on it. It only cost a couple of bucks to add someone name to a legal document and that would solve the issue but for some reason Pharrell would rather argue this nonsense and have his bodyguard Pusha make statements about it instead of simply adding dudes name as he should have done in the first place
@@bjvu9460for real, Pharrell isn’t the press that’s his day one. Him being hard to get an interview with is completely irrelevant
It shouldn't matter if he can find him or not. Put his name on it because it's both of y'alls and not just yours, period.
Some issues under the radar between the two of them have been going on for years. It dates way back to 2006 when Pharrell dropped the In My Mind album, (which was supposed to have dropped in 2005 but wasn’t fully complete til 2006) which was his first labeled production he did all by himself. Chad went on to produce other artists’ albums by himself as well, so in all actuality, they both split back in the earlier ‘00s.
Mainly because Pharrell was more into the spotlight while Chad liked being a family man and being indoors
You can tell the difference in the sound Pharrell’s tracks don’t have bridges. When he was with Chad the sound sonically and bridges were epic. Pharrell is drums and music is Chad
This 100%
we dont know the behind the scenes issues between Pharrell & Chad
Yeah I agree. There's probably something serious going on
Exactly. Joe is just freestyling about an ongoing rumored beef.
There's been issues for a whiiiile if I remember clearly
Pharrell solo prodictions do not have that signature Neptunes sound
@@chriscain1130true but his solo production catalogue is better than Chad’s
Reminds me of when Joe cut Rory and Mal out the podcast 😂
Kinda different. Chad & Pharrell are the originals since 15. Rory and Mal helped Joe get better
Sad, they are why I started creating music. I have the clones poster on my wall right now😢🖖🏾🖖🏾🖖🏾🖖🏾🖖🏾
This is my Hall n Oats beefing smh
Clearly something is amidst when best friends cant communicate with each other without lawyers. Its usually goes far beyone what we know and what we are being told.
True.
We’re definitely not getting that new N.E.R.D. Album now lol
,😢😢😢😢
TRUE
Pharrell likely did most of the work throughout his time with Chad and Chad probably just did extra work like vocals or whatever but I always saw Pharrell as the main driver for his empire. And I wouldn't be surprised if Chad had something to do with Kelis being cheated out of money.
@@KrisBryant99 you are a Newbie
CHAD ARRANGED AND COMPOSED MANY MANY SONGS.
@@angc1456 huge Pharrell fan.
Facts: Both are genuis, But Pharrell changed over the years, he loves the fame , the money, and more money and more money , while CHAD is all for the Music and being a good friend.
Do you know them personally or you just talking out of your ass
@@raymondthomas1574 Pharrell supports the IDF terror organization. Nuff said.
We will never hear that Neptune sound again.
Sounds like Pharrell was trying to leave Chad out of something.. whatever it is I hope it gets resolved 💯
Pharrell is slimey. Glad people are seeing it.
royalties and masters probably
@@DJHYDEHEART Or just new projects under the Neptunes banner. 😒
As a dude from Hampton Roads, VA aka 7 cities, this was a bad moment. When I saw it on the local news station, I had to make sure I heard it right.
A sad day for VA
I sort of hate how Pharrell got all the credit solely because he decided to become an artist aswell. Chad stayed producing. So he truly never got the credit he deserved
they gotta make A24 film on the story of Chad Hugo
“I never put my name on any paperwork.” We just saw this play out with Boosie.
lolll it’s funny how Pharrell portrayed himself in his Lego biopic that’s really not a good structured documentary and should’ve been a movie with a story.
Well if anyone has a fight it should be the owners Cafe Neptune in Virginia Beach where they got the name from.
The greatest groups always break up or fight over money
Love and respect Pharrell and Pusha, but it seems like they’re doing Chad dirty with this one.
This is heartbreaking to hear… especially since I’ve been a fan since they dropped.
Joe makin SURE we see that pants/shoes combination 😂 shit fire tho ngl
This been going on since 2006
“The Neptunes” were being credited as producers even when Pharrell was only doing the production.
So for example: Pharrell produced the entire Clips “Hell Hath No Fury” album but it was still credited as “The Neptunes”
Good to know
@@HoodedSpidey yeah even Chad admitted in (I believe it was the Scratch Magazine article with Timbaland on the cover I’m not sure ) where he said he didn’t do any production on the Clipse album but was thankful that P was still crediting the Neptunes
Chad worked on HHNF, Questlove told a story on being in the studio and Chad was working on Keys Open Doors. Pusha even went on the old Neptune's forum to tell fans about Chad's involvement in HHNF. In the Scratch article your speaking on, Chad said he worked on the music but he wasn't around when the songs were written hence Chad not getting writers credit
Foreign entities are buying up HipHop labels and catalogs at a rapid rate. Well, American music, period. Even Taylor Swift has been calling it out. Even some of the classic HipHop catalog is now South Korean owned (via Scooter Braun though). I can totally see why Pharrell’s team would feel the need to file something expeditiously. Esp given their label woes in the early 2000s, there may be loose ends out there that they felt it CANNOT wait for Chad to get on the same page. “Act now, apologize later.” I can also see Chad being in his bubble, difficult to get in contact with in a timely manner. But, I can also see BOTH of them being in their KanYe bag… basically so focused on being creative that they not really closely, Closely watching what the lawyer is ACTUALLY doing.. versus what he’s telling him he’s doing. AND, It Could also be that Pharrell feels like, you fell back, I’m out here pushing and defending the brand. It Could be SO MANY THINGS….. I just choose to draw no conclusions and just hope they get it worked out and pop up together soon.
They’re being bought up because musicians are cash greedy idiots obsessed with being the richest person in the room. Many will regret selling these catalogs in years to come when they realise they have zero perform to stop it from being used in things they detest.
They had a Neptunes LLC though.. So they could've used that
That’s what happened with New Edition After the movie!!!! That’s why they were beefing that lead to RBRM( Bobby and BBD going on tour without Ralph and Johnny..
I really think Pusha might be on to something actually. My hypothesis: Chad (maybe convinced by his lawyers) didn’t want to trademark Neptunes, Pharrell did. Chad tweeted asking what’s the point of a trademark a while back. I want so badly for them to work it out and I hope they do.
Actually, Chad Hugo is the musical genius behind the Neptune sounds.
How is The Neptunes not already trademarked lol
They had an Neptunes LLC but Pharrell company tried to trademark the name lol
Ain't this what johnny gill did to new editio
VA BEACH 757 stand up!
Joe Budden is correct.
Look at the credits. Pharrell has been producing on his own for a long time.
I mean you take people's word for it as long-time friends/associates and then years later when you get screwed, people scold you that business is business. "Should've had it on paper" 😭
Man Pharell tryna put Neptunes on a louie bag😂😂😂😂😂nothin to see here
For some of yall to come on here saying Pharrell is just drums go back and check out them UA-cam videos of him in the studio with Timberlake. This dude is hands on with everything. From the lyrics, hooks, adlibs etc. Dude is a genius
Dang this is heartbreaking to hear. The Neptunes happened to be one of my musical influences.
As someone that grew up on their music this is sad.
Joe budden your outfit is wild
Yeah that doesn’t suit him lol.
This is a REAL podcast..Mature content .YES!
People on the comments are trippin... the two worked together for 20 years. You expect anyone to spend that much time with someone and not argue or bicker??? We're lucky their music creation lasted that long.
I didn't know you could file a trademark online, I thought u had to go downtown in your city...
Covid changed a lot , you can do a lot more online than before esp with dmv and simple court tasks
@@chaundadon2612 that’s dope! That was a good change
Ish making perfect sense with his take on things
Never thought I'd see the day 😫
Pharrell wants to erase Chad’s legacy with the Lego Movie.
I just saw it. So much credit goes to Chad.
The Neptunes are legendary tho
OH SNAP MY BEY IS BACK ON THE JBP
You cant say Neptunes without Chad
The industry is vicious, no loyalty just royalties sad day for hip-hop
Parks doesn’t belong.
Great engineer and podcast producer, but him always putting his two cents in or even flashing the camera to his face is annoying. Imagine Jamie from JRE doing that…..
@@williammaisonet8228parks is the most knowledgeable on the podcast to a lot of things this cap
@@TheDominicKellmanPodcast smart guy for sure, him talking is definitely not necessary. He just piggy backs off everyone else anyway. This show is his biggest claim to fame, and he knows that.
@@TheDominicKellmanPodcast you must do work with parks, or you are parks to have his duck in your mouth like that…
Parks is a yes man and emulates Joe to stay in his good graces. Listening to him develop a blaccent over the years is nails on a chalkboard
Keep it business, split everything half and half. There should never be no third party entity in a partnership business and endeavors.
Both party management and attorney's, CFO's, CEOs, et al., involved to fix this mess and putting frivolity in the media space rather go talk business and not mess with a friendship and partnership that is benefiting everyone.
If not dissolved the whole entities and nobody can used the names and any and all entities affiliates. Everyone can go do them if this messy mess is not resolved.
The battle we didnt want fo see 😢
im with chad
Seems like "lil' skateboard P" tried to skate away with the name!
mann this should've never happened, the neptunes should still be producing and killing the game!
This hurts
I'm with Chad on this one!
✊ right on
Imma say it because everybody dancing around the answer. We all love Chad, but Pharell does the most work. He is the face of the Neptune's and has kept them relevant. What was the last Neptune beat you heard?
wasting time by brent faiyaz
Facts same thing I said why not just put his name on there. The music is missing something without Chad a Pharrell produced song is not the same as The Neptunes so Chad brought something to that sound, smh sad.
I knew this was gonna happen eventually the money was gonna be an issue regardless how long they knew each other
Kelis been told us that Pharrell is a very dodgy character behind the scenes....so this kind of backs up what she was saying. Chad is so low profile and has deliberately been so, so I don't think he would just be out here doing this for the sake of it.
So this came out 5 months ago, i don't know if it's still going on... But for fucks sake, why you doing this P? Chad is so humble, don't screw him over. He was always the other half, he deserves as much credit as you do. Now that i remember the beef with Kelis, i don't know if that was Pharrell alone too... Chad honestly doesn't seem like he could have that ego. Don't forget where you came from P, you were one of my idols. And still are if you keep yourself humble.
BBB - Business Breaks Brotherhoods 100% of the time
Facts…it’s like that saying “you can’t do or mix business with friends and family.” 💯
I really hate to see this happen to one of my favorite production teams of all time
im not gonna lie to u - joe kinda drippin in this one
if pharrell is doing this.... WOW!!! They have been partners for years. Just do right by one another. This is CRAZY!!!!!!
The Hall and Oats of rap music. Same type of fall out.
I agree
Kelis told us about Pharrell years ago.
Pharrell ain’t been the same since wearing that silly big hat and that dress on the GQ cover
Pharrell was always a lil corny but he started being corny in an uncool way when he put on that hat.
That's when he put out happy. What's another word for happy? Get it now?
Why we have lawyers to get ahold of each other we must not be close at all
i heard they were lovers
Yeah .. that's what Mal said
Pharrell trying to do some dirt here
Pharrell production and songs after he left the Neptunes became wack and pop af. I’ll take stuff like “Grindin” and “Super Thug” over “Despicable Me” and “Lucky” any day
Whatever
Facts. Its missing a special ingredient. That distinct sound that made us nod our heads. Honesly, the best Neptunes was from 1999-2006
Joe got that rich hippie outfit on lol.
I can't believe this I am shocked seriously
I’ve always held Chad over Pharrell even more so after meeting and hanging with them several times.
Pharrell has always been somewhat of a wave rider. His whole skateboard persona and aesthetic came from his brother. Pharrell himself was never a skater like that. Also a lot of his style was influenced by his frequent collaborator Nigo, the founder of Bape. Nigo was also helped create Pharrell’s BBC Ice Cream. I’m not saying Pharrell isn’t creative or he didn’t contribute a good deal to records. But he was definitely more of a face for the people he surrounded himself with.
@@jonjackson2177 I plead the 5th
You don’t know these ppl
i think pharrel dumped chad to look straight
@@TheRedgoldenchild “you got that thugin love”
Small 👒 hats involved no doubt
There's a reality that for the past like decade+, well over 90% of any "The Neptunes" tracks is Pharrell solo producing. If it isn't NERD or Justin Timberlake, it's pretty much just Pharrell. Check the credits. "P. Williams" is on everything. "C. Hugo" shows up once in a blue moon. This suit is easily the most interest Chad has shown in anything Neptunes related in like 15 years.
damn 2024 got everybody ish being brought to the forefront
There is some credence to attorneys trying to milk conflicts though because a lot of divorces could be fixed and properly settled even outside of court but attorneys love those attorney fees. So I'm not completely ruling out that an attorney in this situation could have gotten just as greedy but Pharrell is definitely wrong for not coming directly to Chad first and making it very clear and known what his intentions were if he really wanted to keep Chad in the loop.
In the end this is so common with partners we all know this by now
Having grey in your beard and holes in your jeans is wild behavior 😂
Mike Amiri and Jerry Lorenzo have greys in their beards and they are the designers of this whole style.
@@jonjackson2177 just cause other niggas do it too doesn’t negate the fact it looks wild
It’s just clothes bruh😂😂😂
I wonder what Rory and Mal would do in this situation?
It's not hard when it's 50/50. Both names on everything all cash in and out is split 50/50. Anyone making that more complicated is trying to scam PERIOD.