there's an another (kinda weird) reason why is freezing S-tier: when paired with flamethrower (without cold fire), it starts getting some insane amounts of xp, which can be transferred by using the balance modifier
Anti air is pretty decent in endless, solely because it’s the cheapest tile filling object in the game, even cheaper than the xp balancer at only 21 coins
in my opinion, anti-air should have the minimum range mechanic like missile. though the minimum range applies only to a few ground enemies that should take 25% from anti-air.
I feel bad for Anti-Air maybe it needs a x10 buff in future update. 10x DPS upgrade only applies in max Endless so being cheapest and most DPS cost friendly in Endless. It should be exponential in research though what I mean is think about exponential graph but much larger, that how should Anti Air research works in terms of damage and attack speed. I kinda agree with Minigun and Sniper, in some cases they are much better to deal against Fast than Flamethrowers.
I think the main problem for Antiair is the actual tower mechanics: limiting it to only attack airborne enemies is a huge problem. So even if they buffed it or made the research stronger I think it would still be the worst tower. For example, one thing I would change is the ultimate: once it reaches lvl 20, the tower can attack all enemies with 75% effectiveness
i think basic in endless does not have a finite rank because it can block enemies from getting to your base for a tiny amount of coins then replace them later with better towers
I got an idea for video, not sure if you like it. "top x things i wish i knew when i started the game" (I know you started it waaaaay long ago when all things were different, but who cares), or "top 10 advice for new players" for example when I started the game I was placing a lot of towers, they split exp and they all were weak because of low lvl it took a lot of hours to understand that it is better to have as less towers as possible and improve them with modifiers
Yeah that's a good idea, I'll try to do something like that! It's true that towers share xp, so placing more will make them level up slower, but sometimes it's better to have more towers even if they have less xp :)
There are simply better towers than laser, abilities are not that great (as you either lose pierce, damage or rotation; ultimate is good, but it becomes useless on later waves), and it has very limited maps where it can be good. With max endless research I agree that is stronger, but still other towers are superior (tesla and minigun for example)
I am excited to see the Minigun and Sniper both in S for Endless mode because I like both of them but when would you ever use them? When I think of Endless mode I only think of stage 6.3 but on that stage you only need Splash and Crusher. When would you play in endless mode and not play stage 6.3?
In my case it was when I started completing all quests to get the master trophy :) you can use them also to compete on the endless leaderboard, or to just try different loot methods on different levels than 6.3
hmm, i use two ccrushers for the 6.3 farm in low endless, i have used my two research tickets in it for increase the capaciti ability, it for stop more enemies and can have more miners producing enemies for more money and fast upgrade miners. the flametower too is useful for me, in the end, i use its iceflame talent for slow enemies when i use my five overcharges, it for do not kill me and have more time to use the overcharges bonus mining speed. the laser too is a good tower for me, in 6.3 i use it for kill boss, i only upgrade the piercing laser habiliti and upgrade to max level for kill boss, its useful, and the antiair tower is for fill the tiles because the enemies and the boss do not go for the road necesarily. (bad english)
I wouldn't recommend it, with freezing you can increase the % damage that enemies take, which makes it one of the best abilities in the game. Freezing max slow, with max endless, is 69% which is only 4% higher than the max slow from freezing at 65%, which btw can be achieved even without max endless
Could you explain the synergy between basic and gauss? I heard it in many of your videos, but still don't understand how it works... you want to copy a gauss with basic's ultimate? How to setup this synergy?
so i was using the wrong starter tower the whole time (was using basic but starts to struggle against fast enemies) so i switched to multishot because of its crowd damage at a start of a wave
Wow. I think I totally used the wrong towers or not I mainly use missle, toxic, Pyro, mini, splash, multishot, Lazer and antiair Before I use freeze but cause of Pyro I stopped using it
Hi Alex, is it worth it to raise Basic and Cannon to lv 10? Considering that the quests will need you using them.. as for sniper I think I'd like to lv it up until 10, wdyt?
Hmm I think level 6-7 for basic/sniper/cannon should be enough to complete quests, it's best to save up resources for endless difficulty/mining speed/mod mining speed/splash (lvl 25-30)
In mid normal I usually get the third ability when lightning damage is shitty due to no research, this boost min chain damage from 10% to 20%. Multiplied across 10+ enemy the effect is huge.
Yeah exactly lol don't use antiair if you can place other towers to attack flying enemies :) I forgot to mention that on endless you can use antiair as a platform-filler considering the cost is only 21 coins, but in that case it's a different use, not really to damage enemies :)
Honestly the only one i don't agree is the Gauss, i hate that s...t expecially now that i am in early stages of the research, this mf needs too many reasons and it's dps is bad. I love flame tower and sniper and venom, will try to integrate tesla since you think it's good, crusher ? I didn't unlock it yet, 6.3 is hard to get on 2 stars!!
Gauss is good only once you max normal research and are running for leaderboards :) tesla is super good early, on most levels can solo at beginning; crusher is meh, good but not essential. On max endless, every tower becomes a power house, even the weakest ones (only antiair stays trash xd)
@@alexshatterstar89 ty for thr tips ;) Do you have any chance to get 6.3 at 2 stars? It's hard even getting to 1 star, trying to watch your videos idk if i find something
@@MP-ut6eb unfortunately you'll need quite a lot of research to get 2 or 3 stars, but don't worry too much, once you finish 5.8 the goal is to start completing quests on endless to reset twice at 25% :) good luck and keep going!
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there's an another (kinda weird) reason why is freezing S-tier:
when paired with flamethrower (without cold fire), it starts getting some insane amounts of xp, which can be transferred by using the balance modifier
Anti air is pretty decent in endless, solely because it’s the cheapest tile filling object in the game, even cheaper than the xp balancer at only 21 coins
That's true, but again in that case you are using it as a platform-filler, not to attack or damage enemies :)
That's good to know. I may start placing Anti Air towers instead of XP Balancers at the start of 6.3.
@@DDoig1 yeah, it’ll save you 8 coins
@@yoshidude64595 2 anti air instead of 2 balance saves 18 coins because each modifier of the same type costs more than the last.
Wow great content, this is what I am looking for
Anyway this is the reason why I really like your channel.
in my opinion, anti-air should have the minimum range mechanic like missile. though the minimum range applies only to a few ground enemies that should take 25% from anti-air.
That would be nice
I feel bad for Anti-Air maybe it needs a x10 buff in future update. 10x DPS upgrade only applies in max Endless so being cheapest and most DPS cost friendly in Endless.
It should be exponential in research though what I mean is think about exponential graph but much larger, that how should Anti Air research works in terms of damage and attack speed.
I kinda agree with Minigun and Sniper, in some cases they are much better to deal against Fast than Flamethrowers.
I think the main problem for Antiair is the actual tower mechanics: limiting it to only attack airborne enemies is a huge problem. So even if they buffed it or made the research stronger I think it would still be the worst tower.
For example, one thing I would change is the ultimate: once it reaches lvl 20, the tower can attack all enemies with 75% effectiveness
i think basic in endless does not have a finite rank because it can block enemies from getting to your base for a tiny amount of coins then replace them later with better towers
Anti air is cheaper in endless. It’s only 21 coins, but basic is 35
Yeah that's true, but in that case you are using antiair as a platform filler, not to damage enemies :)
@@yoshidude64595 With the rate of coin generation endless provides, that savings is pretty useless for all maps except rumble and dev.
This is so underrated 😂
Is this Tier List relevant today even with balance changes and 2 years ago video? (2024/4/11 comment)
Yes it is, since I did this tier list, towers and mechanics haven't really changed that much :)
I got an idea for video, not sure if you like it. "top x things i wish i knew when i started the game" (I know you started it waaaaay long ago when all things were different, but who cares), or "top 10 advice for new players"
for example when I started the game I was placing a lot of towers, they split exp and they all were weak because of low lvl
it took a lot of hours to understand that it is better to have as less towers as possible and improve them with modifiers
Yeah that's a good idea, I'll try to do something like that!
It's true that towers share xp, so placing more will make them level up slower, but sometimes it's better to have more towers even if they have less xp :)
For me laser is a s tier, it can do a lot of damage and can attack air enemies and HAVE VERY GOOD ABILITIES, but for you what's wrong with the laser?
There are simply better towers than laser, abilities are not that great (as you either lose pierce, damage or rotation; ultimate is good, but it becomes useless on later waves), and it has very limited maps where it can be good.
With max endless research I agree that is stronger, but still other towers are superior (tesla and minigun for example)
I am excited to see the Minigun and Sniper both in S for Endless mode because I like both of them but when would you ever use them? When I think of Endless mode I only think of stage 6.3 but on that stage you only need Splash and Crusher. When would you play in endless mode and not play stage 6.3?
In my case it was when I started completing all quests to get the master trophy :) you can use them also to compete on the endless leaderboard, or to just try different loot methods on different levels than 6.3
sniper is pretty much essential to compete on endless leaderboards. But that involves so much microing that I quickly gave up competing on them.
hmm, i use two ccrushers for the 6.3 farm in low endless, i have used my two research tickets in it for increase the capaciti ability, it for stop more enemies and can have more miners producing enemies for more money and fast upgrade miners.
the flametower too is useful for me, in the end, i use its iceflame talent for slow enemies when i use my five overcharges, it for do not kill me and have more time to use the overcharges bonus mining speed.
the laser too is a good tower for me, in 6.3 i use it for kill boss, i only upgrade the piercing laser habiliti and upgrade to max level for kill boss, its useful, and the antiair tower is for fill the tiles because the enemies and the boss do not go for the road necesarily. (bad english)
Thanks for sharing!
Is freezing flamethrower good though? Can it replace a freezing tower?
I wouldn't recommend it, with freezing you can increase the % damage that enemies take, which makes it one of the best abilities in the game. Freezing max slow, with max endless, is 69% which is only 4% higher than the max slow from freezing at 65%, which btw can be achieved even without max endless
Could you explain the synergy between basic and gauss? I heard it in many of your videos, but still don't understand how it works... you want to copy a gauss with basic's ultimate? How to setup this synergy?
I have a full video about that, here is a showcase on max endless, but it works also for normal: ua-cam.com/video/IHN0zOGSt34/v-deo.html
@@alexshatterstar89 thx mate!
When I first saw you made the infinitode 2 tier list I was laughing that you put anti air at f tier
It belongs there lol just because it's the cheapest tower and can be placed to fill platforms on endless, doesn't mean it becomes better as tower :)
Feedback, nobody needs 2 minutes explaining how a tier list works. Lots of people make this mistake, it's alright.
Thank you! I guess lots of people forget they can skip forward in a video, or they can speed it up, but it's alright :)
@@alexshatterstar89 you rock, keep it up!
should i get the harder endless upgrade i have all of the towers
What do you mean? Harder endless upgrade?
so i was using the wrong starter tower the whole time (was using basic but starts to struggle against fast enemies) so i switched to multishot because of its crowd damage at a start of a wave
The best starting towers are tesla and flamethrower, multishot is bad because it can't attack strong enemies, which are very common
Wow. I think I totally used the wrong towers or not
I mainly use missle, toxic, Pyro, mini, splash, multishot, Lazer and antiair
Before I use freeze but cause of Pyro I stopped using it
Venom, minigun and flamethrower are good, but the others are meh, so try tesla and sniper instead :)
@@alexshatterstar89 i sometimes use tesla its good for aoe
for sniper i treat lazer as sniper for some reason but sure ima try
thanks for interesting video.
Sniper bug in endless Mode With First Ever Boss(Idk The Name
What is the bug?
Hi Alex, is it worth it to raise Basic and Cannon to lv 10? Considering that the quests will need you using them.. as for sniper I think I'd like to lv it up until 10, wdyt?
Hmm I think level 6-7 for basic/sniper/cannon should be enough to complete quests, it's best to save up resources for endless difficulty/mining speed/mod mining speed/splash (lvl 25-30)
Ok noted, Thx Alex!
i feel bad for anti air its literally the only one on f
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I agree with everything in this video.
why do you say tesla is a good early game tower? It seems extremly limited at beginning when it doesnt have their 95 lightning damage...
Try it out and you'll see for yourself :) once you get some research, it's pretty good for the early waves (just be careful to the weaknesses)
Tesla/flamethrower is a nice combo, they both cover each other's weaknesses well. Then add venom, easy
Tesla is wonderful when you first unlocked it because it is virtually your only AOE option after they killed cannon tower by nerfing explosion.
In mid normal I usually get the third ability when lightning damage is shitty due to no research, this boost min chain damage from 10% to 20%. Multiplied across 10+ enemy the effect is huge.
What is funny is that you said f tier is the tower you don't want to use if i don't miss heard and then you put anti-air on f tier
Yeah exactly lol don't use antiair if you can place other towers to attack flying enemies :) I forgot to mention that on endless you can use antiair as a platform-filler considering the cost is only 21 coins, but in that case it's a different use, not really to damage enemies :)
@@alexshatterstar89 u can use anti air when u first unlock it cuz its the only tower that can kill air
Multi shot can attack air troops tho
True, but only with 3rd ability, and there are better towers to attack air enemies :)
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Great Video! Any new tips or strategies?
Thank you!
I have done many videos with tips and different strategies, you can find them in my playlist :)
tanks you so much for your vidéo, im french and i undurstend with my bad english
nice
i say flamer is s tire and anyway if if you want to keep freezinz use cold fire for more damage and dise not cancles freeznf affect
Honestly the only one i don't agree is the Gauss, i hate that s...t expecially now that i am in early stages of the research, this mf needs too many reasons and it's dps is bad.
I love flame tower and sniper and venom, will try to integrate tesla since you think it's good, crusher ? I didn't unlock it yet, 6.3 is hard to get on 2 stars!!
Gauss is good only once you max normal research and are running for leaderboards :) tesla is super good early, on most levels can solo at beginning; crusher is meh, good but not essential.
On max endless, every tower becomes a power house, even the weakest ones (only antiair stays trash xd)
@@alexshatterstar89 ty for thr tips ;)
Do you have any chance to get 6.3 at 2 stars? It's hard even getting to 1 star, trying to watch your videos idk if i find something
@@MP-ut6eb unfortunately you'll need quite a lot of research to get 2 or 3 stars, but don't worry too much, once you finish 5.8 the goal is to start completing quests on endless to reset twice at 25% :) good luck and keep going!
@@alexshatterstar89 ty ;)
Lol Splash can't even damage Basic enemies XD
True, but on 6.3 that's not an issue :)